Kanye west is a fool

[derf]

I feel bad about what he did to the chick that won


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yOOPHe3QHU

This is posted by the AP it should stay up

[Mr Lefty]

Kanye West is a fucking tool.

had a black woman won the award he wouldn't have done that...

I could care less about who wins what...

I find it find it funny that those that try the hardest to FIGHT the unfair discrimination... do nothing but reinforce it.

[Amber Lamps]

Dude isn't that stupid show still on? How do you get this crap before it's even over? Yeesh.

[Homeslice]

who is the brunette in the black dress on the left?

[Amber Lamps]

Kanye West is a fucking tool.

had a black woman won the award he wouldn't have done that...

I could care less about who wins what...

I find it find it funny that those that try the hardest to FIGHT the unfair discrimination... do nothing but reinforce it.

Oh yea... NIGGA PLEASE!!!!:lol:

[Trip]

Kayne is a fucking toolbag. Taylor is hawt.

[Mr Lefty]

Oh yea... NIGGA PLEASE!!!!:lol:

Tigger hates white people

[neebelung]

Kanye's always been an arrogant tool, but this is a new low.

[neebelung]

Dude isn't that stupid show still on? How do you get this crap before it's even over? Yeesh.

:shrug: someone posted it on Facebook; it's already on youtube. :lol:

[Dave]

isint this the second time hes pulled this shit?

[azoomm]

:shrug: someone posted it on Facebook; it's already on youtube. :lol:

Power of the internet. :dthumb: Magnifies douchebaggery It's awesome, isn't it?

[Mr Lefty]

Power of the internet. :dthumb: Magnifies douchebaggery It's awesome, isn't it?

also Immortalizes and perpetuates it

[Quick281]

Oh yea... NIGGA PLEASE!!!!:lol:

Remember, we are only talking about Kanye because he is a black man. And, we are all out to get you.



:deadhorse:

[azoomm]

Remember, we are only talking about Kanye because he is a black man. And, we are all out to get you.

Speak for yourself man, I have a friend that's black.... :whistle:

[Homeslice]

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[Mr Lefty]

Remember, we are only talking about Kanye because he is a black man. And, we are all out to get you.



:deadhorse:

no we're only out to get half of Tigger

[Quick281]

Speak for yourself man, I have a friend that's black.... :whistle:

I have a couple of them, but really I just use them to cover up my deep and rooted plans to get that Ol' Tigger.

no we're only out to get half of Tigger

Touche.

[derf]

isint this the second time hes pulled this shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-631TgPP2s&NR=1

and who can forget this gem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI&feature=related

[Trip]

This has nothing to do with race, but it's amazing how quick race gets injected into this issue.

I am sure Beyonce didn't want that lowlife piece of shit up there saying that shit. No one would like to have their moment spoiled like that.

It's funny to see the reactions from white people vs black people.

I can't imagine if some white guy did that to Beyonce and said Taylor should win. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would already be screaming for their heads on the news.

[JoJoYZF]

Classy move by beyonce. Further showing that kanye is a tool when the person who hes pulling for throws him under the bus.

[Trip]

I am sure Beyonce didn't want that lowlife piece of shit up there saying that shit. No one would like to have their moment spoiled like that.

Classy move by beyonce. Further showing that kanye is a tool when the person who hes pulling for throws him under the bus.

I totally called that shit. :lol:

[JoJoYZF]

I totally called that shit. :lol:

Yea no doubt. I was watchin it with a friend and she pointed out how disgusted beyonce was while it was happening too.

[Trip]

Whats with the woman with the white fur head?

[Dave]

make it fourth, at least

2004 screams at gretchen wilson
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7L&entry_id=10567

2006 flips out in europe
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/kanyes-on-stage-tantrum_1012662

meltdown in 2007
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/09/10/vmas-wrap-up-kanyes-tantrum-kid-rocks-punch-timberlakes-pleas/

even more shit:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1569536/20070912/west_kanye.jhtml

fuck this pathetic loser

[JoJoYZF]

Whats with the woman with the white fur head?

That bitch is retarded. Shes been wearing dumb shit all night.

[Trip]

That bitch is retarded. Shes been wearing dumb shit all night.

Who is that?

[Rangerscott]

Who is that?

Pink

[Amber Lamps]

Anybody still think that Lady Gaga is a man?:lol:

[derf]

Anybody still think that Lady Gaga is a man?:lol:

Me

[askmrjesus]

Excuse me Mr. West, just one question.

Who the fuck asked you?

JC

[Ninjakel]

What a douchebag!

[azoomm]

Here is the question - why the HELL is he still out there able to make money?? Why are people buying his crap?

[neebelung]

no we're only out to get half of Tigger

:dvrofl:

the burning question remains: which half? :lol:

[neebelung]

This has nothing to do with race, but it's amazing how quick race gets injected into this issue.

I am sure Beyonce didn't want that lowlife piece of shit up there saying that shit. No one would like to have their moment spoiled like that.

It's funny to see the reactions from white people vs black people.

I can't imagine if some white guy did that to Beyonce and said Taylor should win. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would already be screaming for their heads on the news.

Agreed on all counts. Who the fuck made this about race?

Personally, I think he's just kissin Beyonce's ass because he's on Jay-Z's new record. :shrug:

[neebelung]

Pink

No it wasn't; it was Lady Gaga.

:barf:

[neebelung]

Excuse me Mr. West, just one question.

Who the fuck asked you?

JC

Matt Lauer summed it up perfectly: something along the lines of "Kanye West needs to consider his place in the universe today."

[pauldun170]

I saw a few minutes of the show, including the West incident.

My Comments:
When does MTV show Music videos?
Me: Who the hell is that guy (the host)? My Wife: He's (don't remember), he's a comedian...he was on Letterman and he was funny.......yeah he's not really funny right now.

(After Kanye West incident) ...."Staged"

[askmrjesus]

Matt Lauer summed it up perfectly: something along the lines of "Kanye West needs to consider his place in the universe today."

So what are you saying?

I shouldn't host the Today Show? :lol:

JC

[HurricaneHeather]

Will someone explain what happened? Everyone keeps talking about what a douche Kanye West is on FB, on the radio this morning....

Someone said on FB that Beyonce kicked Kanye in the nuts? :scratch:

[Homeslice]

Possibly staged to get more attention for MTV (a dying channel)

[neebelung]

So what are you saying?

I shouldn't host the Today Show? :lol:

JC

Hell yeah you should; you and Matt Lauer could be the good cop, bad cop of morning news shows. :lol:

[neebelung]

Will someone explain what happened? Everyone keeps talking about what a douche Kanye West is on FB, on the radio this morning....

Someone said on FB that Beyonce kicked Kanye in the nuts? :scratch:
If not for people posting vids and stuff on FB, I'd have no idea either. :lol:

in short, Taylor Swift (who's what, like 17?) won an award. She was up there making her acceptance speech when Kanye jumps up there, snags the mic, and basically says Beyonce shoulda won. Taylor looked like someone kicked her puppy, and left the stage.

Later in the show, Beyonce won an award, and said something about when she was 17, winning an award was the most exciting thing on earth for her, and that Taylor deserved her moment, and she invited her back up on stage.

[JoJoYZF]

Will someone explain what happened? Everyone keeps talking about what a douche Kanye West is on FB, on the radio this morning....

Someone said on FB that Beyonce kicked Kanye in the nuts? :scratch:

He got up and interupted taylor swifts acceptance speech and started talking about how beyonce had the best video of the year and implying that she should have won over swift.

Beyonce didnt literally kick him in the nuts, just figuratively when she called swift back on stage to give her acceptance speech in place of beyonces.

[HurricaneHeather]

Holy shit....yeah, what a douche. :lol:

[HokieDNA01]

Here is Kanye's apology. What a douche!

“I’m sooooo sorry to Taylor Swift and her fans and her mom [Andrea]. I spoke to her mother right after and she said the same thing my mother would’ve said. She is very talented! I like the lyrics about being a cheerleader and she’s in the bleachers! …………………… I’m in the wrong for going on stage and taking away from her moment!…………….. Beyonce’s video was the best of this decade!!! I’m sorry to my fans if I let you guys down!!!!! I’m sorry to my friends at MTV. I will apologize to Taylor 2mrw. Welcome to the real world!!!! Everybody wanna booooo me but I’m a fan of real pop culture!!! No disrespect but we watchin’ the show at the cribe right now cause…. Well you know!!!! I’m still happy for Taylor!!!! Boooyaawww!!!! You are very talented!!!!! I gave my awards to Outkast when they deserved it over me… That’s what it is!!!! I’m not crazy yall, I’m just real. Sorry for that!!! I really feel bad for Taylor and I’m sincerely sorry!!! Much Respect!!!!!”

[neebelung]

Whatever.... :lol: stilladouche.

[shmike]

Whatever.... :lol: stilladouche.

After that apology?

I think he is MORE of a douche now than before. :lol:

[HokieDNA01]

Ok so I had to take a look at both videos since MTV doesn't even play them anymore. Now if you like hot women dancing to average choreography, and a lighting guy turning the lights on and off, than I guess it is ok...but video of the decade...Kanye is smoking crack!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mVEGfH4s5g

And yes Taylors video is not the best I have seen but it is obvious more thought and production went into it...plus I was a band geek all through middle/high school and college. go figure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AHzIq_n-DQ

And Beyonce really stepped up to make things right for Taylor. She kicks ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Ig38qaUxE



Here is Taylor's video

[neebelung]

After that apology?

I think he is MORE of a douche now than before. :lol:

Well IMO,he's allllllways been a douche. I don't think there's any higher level of douchiness left for him to achieve: he's already there. :lol:

[AquaPython]

Power of the internet. :dthumb: Magnifies douchebaggery It's awesome, isn't it?

quoted for heavy truthiness . can i make that a sig ?

[shmike]

Well IMO,he's allllllways been a douche. I don't think there's any higher level of douchiness left for him to achieve: he's already there. :lol:

I think Kanye has proven time and again that there are levels of douchiness achievable not previously thought possible.

Your turn. :lol:

[Flexin]

It was a prick move but everyone acts like this is the first time something like this happens.

I have seen fighters in Boxing and MMA win a fight only to have the whole arena boo them.

Refs get it daily. And if they are in soccer they have a chance of getting their ass kicked by 10000+ fans.

He didn't agree with the the out come of that award and he spoke his mind. It was the wrong place and time but thats him.

I don't remember who started talking about race (I wasn't even going to comment in this thread at all) but it happens because people still see color. Yes the US President is Black but people don't change over night. I don't feel it had anything to do with color, he just thought someone else should have won.

The fact that she is 17 shouldn't matter at all. She is in show business and its a tough one. The press can be harder on people then Kanye will ever be.

What Beyonce did was cool.

Taylors video wasn't bad. I think the video was better then the song which I don't like at all. I think Beyonce's video was better myself.

James

[Tmall]

How many other black girls were nominated?

If it was more than beyonce, then sure, it may not have been race related. But, since it was kanye, I happen to think it was race related. Since George bush doesn't care about black ppl, he revealed his true colors..

[Homeslice]

Ok so I had to take a look at both videos since MTV doesn't even play them anymore. Now if you like hot women dancing to average choreography, and a lighting guy turning the lights on and off, than I guess it is ok...but video of the decade...Kanye is smoking crack!!
Here is Taylor's video

Plus trillion

There was nothing special about that vid except for it being eye candy....which isn't challenging to do at all.

And the song itself is wack IMO, it's very repetitive. I got tired of it after only the 2nd or 3rd time I heard it.

[Tmall]

Ps, booing is much different than pulling the mic out of someones hand..

[fasternyou929]

It was a prick move but everyone acts like this is the first time something like this happens.

I have seen fighters in Boxing and MMA win a fight only to have the whole arena boo them.

Refs get it daily. And if they are in soccer they have a chance of getting their ass kicked by 10000+ fans.

He didn't agree with the the out come of that award and he spoke his mind. It was the wrong place and time but thats him.

I don't remember who started talking about race (I wasn't even going to comment in this thread at all) but it happens because people still see color. Yes the US President is Black but people don't change over night. I don't feel it had anything to do with color, he just thought someone else should have won.

The fact that she is 17 shouldn't matter at all. She is in show business and its a tough one. The press can be harder on people then Kanye will ever be.

What Beyonce did was cool.

Taylors video wasn't bad. I think the video was better then the song which I don't like at all. I think Beyonce's video was better myself.

James

That has to be the worst analogy I've ever read. Seriously, how the fuck are these two scenarios similar?:

1. An unpopular fighter wins a fight and is booed by most of crowd.
2. A singer is given an award. A nobody jumps up on the stage, steals the microphone from a 17 year old during her acceptance speech, and let's everyone know HE thinks someone else should have won, then turns his back and walks off stage.

[Kaneman]

People still don't get that everything that happens at an MTV award show is STAGED. Come on guys....

[Trip]

Finally seen both videos....

Beyonce's video was shit, the song was itself was utter shit. I can take my camera in the backyard and film the trees blowing in the wind to some shitty britney spears garbage song and it would be more entertaining than Beyonce and her extremely shitty song and stupid ass dancing thats in B&W.

Swift's song was crappy 80s shit. It was awful, but in comparison to the stupidity that is Beyonce's video, it is freakin amazing.

[neebelung]

I think Kanye has proven time and again that there are levels of douchiness achievable not previously thought possible.

Your turn. :lol:

:lol: no, no, upon examination, I find you are correct, and that he has indeed forged on and pioneered higher and higher levels of doucheosity.

[tommymac]

Too bad someone else didnt come up take the mike away from him and pop a cap in his ass :lol:

Tom

[pauldun170]

What are these music videos you people speak of and where would one find them on television?

[CasterTroy]

Justin Timberlakes version was much better!

OH, and James is just jealous that he's not in the US with our thriving economy and lack of racism

[neebelung]

What are these music videos you people speak of and where would one find them on television?

:lol:

[shmike]

People still don't get that everything that happens at an MTV award show is STAGED. Come on guys....

Maybe maybe not.

You know this for a fact?

I don't watch MTV, so I wouldn't know.

If it was staged, does everyone know or only certain people? Did the 19 year old recipient know or was her reaction real?

[HokieDNA01]

It was not staged. Kanye really is an ass. Taylor was seen crying backstage afterwards.

[pauldun170]

as per tradition... and possible OCD...I'll shall post a related Interwebz article without further comment
http://www.thegrio.com/2009/09/twitter-and-facebook-were-aglow.php

[Kaneman]

It was not staged. Kanye really is an ass. Taylor was seen crying backstage afterwards.

Who is in Hollywood that can't cry on command? Every VMA has some dramatic moment that gets EVERYONE talking, that makes the news, that floods YouTube...and then turns out to be staged. It is their modus operandi.

[KSGregman]

Why do people still allow that dumb fuck anywhere near a stage? A microphone? A camera?

I mean, seriously, how many opportunities does one person need to prove that they are a complete fucking tool?

[pauldun170]

Why do people still allow that dumb fuck anywhere near a stage? A microphone? A camera?

I mean, seriously, how many opportunities does one person need to prove that they are a complete fucking tool?

I heard Maynard from Tool is a tool. But he is in a band named Tool so I forgot where I was going with this.....

[fasternyou929]

Why do people still allow that dumb fuck anywhere near a stage? A microphone? A camera?

I mean, seriously, how many opportunities does one person need to prove that they are a complete fucking tool?

Because he's a cash cow. Because most people are that stupid or, against all odds, even more stupid.

[KSGregman]

I heard Maynard from Tool is a tool. But he is in a band named Tool so I forgot where I was going with this.....

Maynard from Tool is a genius....I'm sure he'd have some advice for Mr. West.....

LEARN TO SWIM!!!!!!!!

[OneNotSoSickPsycho]

I have been hearing about this shit since it happened...saw the youtube videos, and although I think what kanye did was really fucked up, I too think it was all staged. One of my friends said that kanye and taylor were making a song together (or already did). So all this bullshit was probably staged so that they can both be well known and then everyone will listen to their song and make a big fucking deal about how they "made up".

It makes sense. Kanye is always a douche bucket, and people keep buying his music anyway. He doesn't care how he's known, as long as he keeps making money.
Frankly, I think he's a fucking genius. Still a major douchebag, but a genius.

[tommymac]

Rapper and genius are 2 words that done belong together :lol:

Tom

[Kaneman]

This bullshit is on the front page of CNN right now. This is how gullible MTV executives think the MTV watching population is...and I guess they're right.

[tommymac]

This bullshit is on the front page of CNN right now. This is how gullible MTV executives think the MTV watching population is...and I guess they're right.

You know theyr egullible, MTV went from playing videos and promotin gmusic to a bunch of wannabe reality shows and god knows what else and the sheep eat it up and want more.

First it was bad to say youre old enough to remember tv before cable but now you can say you remember when MTV actualy played videos.

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

West can't seem to behave at awards shows, so perhaps he should simply be banned from awards shows?

[HokieDNA01]

This reminds me of when the Rage Against the Machine guy climbed the stage and they had to drag him down....good stuff

[Homeslice]

West can't seem to behave at awards shows, so perhaps he should simply be banned from awards shows?

Why ban people who make more people tune in to see what he'll do?

All staged. :td:

[neebelung]

Frankly, I think he's a fucking genius. Still a major douchebag, but a genius.

Ya mean like genius in the Jessica Simpson sense, i.e. play up her stupidity so people keep talking about how stupid she is? :lol:

I'd buy that angle, except I really DO think Jessica Simpson is an idiot, and I really DO think Kanye is an asshole. :lol: (but they obviously have genius marketing people working for them, telling them what attributes to play up in order to remain "relevant." :lol: )

[OneNotSoSickPsycho]

Lol yes, that's exactly what I mean. We all know kanye isn't a REAL genius. just his concept of knowing this shit would be a big deal and make him more famous is genius. That's all.

[neebelung]

True, true... afterall, we're all talkin about him today. :lol:

[azoomm]

True, true... afterall, we're all talkin about him today. :lol:

Talk is cheap.

I just wish no one would buy his crap, THEN he would go away.

[HokieDNA01]

oh shit now he gets to appear on the new Jay Leno Show tonight!

[neebelung]

I can promise I have never, nor will I ever, buy his crap. :lol:





(Hell, for that matter, I've never bought anything by Taylor Swift or Beyonce :shrug:)

oh shit now he gets to appear on the new Jay Leno Show tonight!

that was already scheduled before last night; he and Rihanna are on Jay-Z's new song, so the three of them are scheduled to appear. Should be entertaining... :lol:











(I startle myself that I KNOW this shit, considering I don't even listen to pop music :lol: )

[tommymac]

I can promise I have never, nor will I ever, buy his crap. :lol:





(Hell, for that matter, I've never bought anything by Taylor Swift or Beyonce :shrug:)



that was already scheduled before last night; he and Rihanna are on Jay-Z's new song, so the three of them are scheduled to appear. Should be entertaining... :lol:











(I startle myself that I KNOW this shit, considering I don't even listen to pop music :lol: )

Wow the 3 of them together, one well placed missle strike would make the music world so much better.

TOm

[neebelung]

:rofl:

[Papa_Complex]

Why ban people who make more people tune in to see what he'll do?

All staged. :td:

Possibly. If he doesn't get banned or slammed, then that possibility increases.

[Homeslice]

Wow, he's appearing on Leno's new show? What a coincidence. NBC needs all the luck in the world to get that show off on a good foot.

[Digifox]

Hes a mutha fucking gay fish!

[neebelung]

Hes a mutha fucking gay fish!

:rofl: Trip had me crackin up with that shit last night.

[Flexin]

That has to be the worst analogy I've ever read. Seriously, how the fuck are these two scenarios similar?:

1. An unpopular fighter wins a fight and is booed by most of crowd.
2. A singer is given an award. A nobody jumps up on the stage, steals the microphone from a 17 year old during her acceptance speech, and let's everyone know HE thinks someone else should have won, then turns his back and walks off stage.

Its not always the unpopular fighter.

Who cares that she is 17. Would it be ok if she was 50?

And he didn't knock her to the ground and grab the mike. What he did was wrong but his opinion is his, right or wrong.

Telling people he thought Beyonce should have won isn't wrong, the way he did is.

James

Justin Timberlakes version was much better!

OH, and James is just jealous that he's not in the US with our thriving economy and lack of racism

LOL.

James

[Homeslice]

I thought she was 19

[azoomm]

quoted for heavy truthiness . can i make that a sig ?

Just saw this - of course you can :dthumb:

[neebelung]

Who cares that she is 17. Would it be ok if she was 50?


Meh, it kinda does matter. Yeah, she's "in the business," but it takes a particular kind of asshole to be that big of a dick to a 17 year old. He'd be a dick if she was 35, 50, or 75, but he's an even BIGGER dick since she's only 17.

[Papa_Complex]

Meh, it kinda does matter. Yeah, she's "in the business," but it takes a particular kind of asshole to be that big of a dick to a 17 year old. He'd be a dick if she was 35, 50, or 75, but he's an even BIGGER dick since she's only 17.

... and it's her first kick at the can.

[Amber Lamps]

Meh, it kinda does matter. Yeah, she's "in the business," but it takes a particular kind of asshole to be that big of a dick to a 17 year old. He'd be a dick if she was 35, 50, or 75, but he's an even BIGGER dick since she's only 17.

He's also a bully! I wonder if he would have tried that shit if 50 cent or someone like that was up there?:lol:

Besides, Beyonce won 2 awards, did he think she deserved them all? Yeesh!

[Dragonpaco]

if it wasn't staged then one of her bodyguards would have stepped in when he came running for the stage, shit... black man running for a 17 year old white girl.... forget about it.

[HurricaneHeather]

if it wasn't staged then one of her bodyguards would have stepped in when he came running for the stage, shit... black man running for a 17 year old white girl.... forget about it.

:lol

[neebelung]

He's also a bully! I wonder if he would have tried that shit if 50 cent or someone like that was up there?:lol:


:rofl: Ok now that's somethin I'd love to see... that would've been a hilarious beatdown.

[Avatard]

http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&pollId=176334&channel=aol_us_timepeople8&view=176043&template=1826

[azoomm]

http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&pollId=176334&channel=aol_us_timepeople8&view=176043&template=1826

Should be "shut up forever" and I'll spend my dollar....

[Flexin]

Meh, it kinda does matter. Yeah, she's "in the business," but it takes a particular kind of asshole to be that big of a dick to a 17 year old. He'd be a dick if she was 35, 50, or 75, but he's an even BIGGER dick since she's only 17.

She had her break up in the news for months at least. What he did was nothing compared to that.

If it was my 17 year old (or 19) daughter I would be pissed, but I would also be pissed if it was my 30 something year old wife.

He has a right to his opinion but he should have expressed that opinion later that night. He could have done it on his website, Facebook or Twitter.

James

He's also a bully! I wonder if he would have tried that shit if 50 cent or someone like that was up there?:lol:

Besides, Beyonce won 2 awards, did he think she deserved them all? Yeesh!

MJ used to take them all so why not? :P

James

[azoomm]

MJ used to take them all so why not? :P

James

Yeah... but when he won them he was black...

or was he??

:whistle: :lol:

[neebelung]

She had her break up in the news for months at least. What he did was nothing compared to that.

If it was my 17 year old (or 19) daughter I would be pissed, but I would also be pissed if it was my 30 something year old wife.

He has a right to his opinion but he should have expressed that opinion later that night. He could have done it on his website, Facebook or Twitter.

James


Eh, I dunno... I think this was a bit worse than her Ex tweeting about her. I'm sure that sucked TOO (since again, she's 17-ish), but to have her big moment shattered? Hard to deal with at 30, exponentialy harder, IMO, at 17.

I agree, he's got a right to have an opinion, and hell, he's got his own blog, so why not use that vehicle (where he's already got fans following) to vent about it. No one would've faulted him at ALL if he'd just gone that route.

[Flexin]

Yeah... but when he won them he was black...

or was he??

:whistle: :lol:

LOL. Yes I believe he was still black then.

James

[neebelung]

LOL. Yes I believe he was still black then.

James

And MALE. Don't forget MALE. :lol:

[Flexin]

Eh, I dunno... I think this was a bit worse than her Ex tweeting about her. I'm sure that sucked TOO (since again, she's 17-ish), but to have her big moment shattered? Hard to deal with at 30, exponentialy harder, IMO, at 17.

I agree, he's got a right to have an opinion, and hell, he's got his own blog, so why not use that vehicle (where he's already got fans following) to vent about it. No one would've faulted him at ALL if he'd just gone that route.

He should have used the other avenues but he didn't. Why? It could be the shock value. It could be that he has to get it out right now.

I have had times when I would have something on my mind and I wanted to post about it. If I was home at the time or at a computer I would go at it. Most of the time by the time I get home I say fuck it and don't bother. Maybe he needs to deal with it right then and there.

But this is 2009, he could have been bitching about that on Facebook and Twitter right as it was happening. There could have been 10% of the people there would have received his update on their phone right then and there.

James

[neebelung]

He should have used the other avenues but he didn't. Why? It could be the shock value. It could be that he has to get it out right now.

I have had times when I would have something on my mind and I wanted to post about it. If I was home at the time or at a computer I would go at it. Most of the time by the time I get home I say fuck it and don't bother. Maybe he needs to deal with it right then and there.

But this is 2009, he could have been bitching about that on Facebook and Twitter right as it was happening. There could have been 10% of the people there would have received his update on their phone right then and there.James

Exactly! :lol: Hell, I caught a few minutes of some post-show show, and they were actually CHARTING the moments when twitter was abuzz about the whole ordeal. He might've reached a BIGGER audience, and not alienated them, had he taken that route.

[defector]

They should have an award show for the Real World or whatever the hell is on there 24hrs a day. Not for videos, that they never play...

If I want to watch a music video I watch Fuse, or even VH1.

[azoomm]

You know what I think this is? I think it's the edge of a certain generation that was raised with some stupid sense of entitlement. That Kanye believes the world is entitled to his opinion. And, that he's entitled to the mic. And now, that the world is entitled to forgive him and pay him because he texted some retarded apology. He said "I'm sorry" so it should all be better... right?

I don't think it was staged. I think they had him back there and just banked on him doing something like this. It's why he won't ever be banned from events, they sell advertising with the assumption something offending will happen and people will be clicking and talking about it for days....

[fasternyou929]

Its not always the unpopular fighter.

Who cares that she is 17. Would it be ok if she was 50?

And he didn't knock her to the ground and grab the mike. What he did was wrong but his opinion is his, right or wrong.
James

I dunno, since when is it remotely acceptable to storm the stage and take the mic from someone (anybody, any age, but especially a young girl) during their acceptance speech?

I doubt Kanye would find it acceptable if someone did that to him. For every award he's ever won, there were plenty of people that didn't think he deserved it. Yet none of them took to the stage to announce their opinion.

Probably because they had the common sense and courtesy to know it wasn't their place.

[Flexin]

Speaking of videos and Micheal Jackson, I miss music videos. I used to watch them a lot as a child. I missed how they would count down to a big MJ video.

I miss the background dancers. I like seeing dancing in videos.

Here some videos with dancing that bring me back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76IlF5HES0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKONgfNONU&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtdPMoX2iws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBPpa8RROIo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeKlxiQY-HA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWh8XKvsYqc

James

[Riceaholic]

Everything seems to have been covered so I'll add this..


I'd like to jam an umbrella up Kanye's ass and open it.

And Flex, that Genuwine video is better than anything Kanye has ever THOUGHT about doing.

[Flexin]

You know what I think this is? I think it's the edge of a certain generation that was raised with some stupid sense of entitlement. That Kanye believes the world is entitled to his opinion. And, that he's entitled to the mic. And now, that the world is entitled to forgive him and pay him because he texted some retarded apology. He said "I'm sorry" so it should all be better... right?

I don't think it was staged. I think they had him back there and just banked on him doing something like this. It's why he won't ever be banned from events, they sell advertising with the assumption something offending will happen and people will be clicking and talking about it for days....

I don't think it has anything to do with entitlement.

If you want the veiwers you don't want everyone to forgive you.

Unless he puts someone in the hospital he will never be banned.

James

[Flexin]

Just do a search and you will find that most creative people that have made it big are at least a little bit out there. It could be music or movies, there are a lot of people that seem to have a screw lose.

Here are a few sayings...

"any press is good press"

"as long as they spell the name right"

"all publicity is good publicity"

"no such thing as bad publicity"

James

[tommymac]

Arent most rap videos now them rapping in front of an expensive, car, on a boat or a party at their mansion? Or if its a chick shes rolling sround in some sort of party dress.

Tom

[fasternyou929]

"any press is good press"

"as long as they spell the name right"

"all publicity is good publicity"

"no such thing as bad publicity"

James
And all have their limitations. Namely, when you start destroying once-in-a-lifetime moments of others. Right? Or are we just supposed to care about ourselves now at any and all cost to others?

[Flexin]

Arent most rap videos now them rapping in front of an expensive, car, on a boat or a party at their mansion? Or if its a chick shes rolling sround in some sort of party dress.

Tom


Come on now. What about...

David Lee Roth with half naked women. I always loved this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CyQ7Eslg4

Kid Rock with in a boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjvpGt4r44

ZZ Top with Legs, bikes, cars and did I say legs? Another video I loved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLiC5hf-DJc

Whats wrong with some toys or eye candy in a video? :p

James

And all have their limitations. Namely, when you start destroying once-in-a-lifetime moments of others. Right? Or are we just supposed to care about ourselves now at any and all cost to others?

I already said he picked the wrong time and place to voice his opinion.

James

[neebelung]

Come on now. What about...

David Lee Roth with half naked women. I always loved this video.


ZZ Top with Legs, bikes, cars and did I say legs? Another video I loved.

Whats wrong with some toys or eye candy in a video? :p


And aside from that, videos then were FUN. Those videos were always toungue-in-cheek, and fun to watch back in those days. :lol:

[tommymac]

At my gym they have a video station and I watch some of these rap vids and just think to myself what made them think this would be a good idea its like every other video out there

[neebelung]

At my gym they have a video station and I watch some of these rap vids and just think to myself what made them think this would be a good idea its like every other video out there

Ah, in that sense, videos have always had a "formula," it just changes over the years. Back in the 80's, it was big hair, tight pants, and chicks in leather bras (with big hair, and tight pants). :lol:

Now it's big houses, expensive cars, big yachts, and big asses in bikinis.

Seems the common thread is bigger is better! :lol:

[tommymac]

And aside from that, videos then were FUN. Those videos were always toungue-in-cheek, and fun to watch back in those days. :lol:

Whats funny in some of the rap videos is they try to come off all serious which makes them look more ridiculous :lol:

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Whats funny in some of the rap videos is they try to come off all serious which makes them look more ridiculous :lol:

Tom

It's tough to take someone serious when he's wearing a ring on every finger, a raccoon coat, and a Mercedes hood ornament on a chain around his neck, while chillin' in a chair beside his pool.

[tommymac]

It's tough to take someone serious when he's wearing a ring on every finger, a raccoon coat, and a Mercedes hood ornament on a chain around his neck, while chillin' in a chair beside his pool.

True at least they got away from the motorcycles in the videos, now its just cars most of them cant even afford :lol:

One was kinda funny the 2 guys were dressed up as used car salesman from the 70's, though tthat was kinda funny and they didnt seem to take themselves too seriously.

Tom

[Flexin]

It's tough to take someone serious when he's wearing a ring on every finger, a raccoon coat, and a Mercedes hood ornament on a chain around his neck, while chillin' in a chair beside his pool.

Is it easier if they have tight ass jeans or spandex? Men in make up?

Twisted Sister. I liked this song back in the day. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1LXhgXPWs

Kiss?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNGNLo8K6Fk

James

[neebelung]

:dvrofl:

Well at least Twisted Sister you KNEW weren't taking themselves seriously.... it was all for laughs. :lol:

Kiss - marketing/merchandising wizards. Plain and simple.

[tommymac]

:dvrofl:

Well at least Twisted Sister you KNEW weren't taking themselves seriously.... it was all for laughs. :lol:

Kiss - marketing/merchandising wizards. Plain and simple.

And kiss is on like the 10th leg of their farewell tour :lol: plus kiss and to a lesser degree twisted sister were the first to do what they did. Think back to waht kiss was back in the late 70's. P-diddy or any of these clowns could only hope to achieve the level they did. I doubt we will ever see another band do something like that again.

[Homeslice]

Whats funny in some of the rap videos is they try to come off all serious which makes them look more ridiculous :lol:

Tom

Exactly...........trying to act all hard-ass, or like they're the blood enemies of some other rapper when in reality they're in cahoots with each other and just trying to sell records.

Also, ever notice some of these clowns conveniently get arrested for minor crimes right before their new album or movie comes out?

I would not even call most of today's hip-hop hip-hop........it's more "thug nightclub music". It's sad when one of the only people who can flow anymore is Eminem.

[tommymac]

Exactly...........trying to act all hard-ass, or like they're the blood enemies of some other rapper when in reality they're in cahoots with each other and just trying to sell records.

Also, ever notice some of these clowns conveniently get arrested for minor crimes right before their new album or movie comes out?

Gives em street cred:lol

Tom

[goof2]

In my view it is worse if it was set up. I don't really care about a demonstrated idiot doing what he does best, being an idiot. I am less likely to brush off creating a situation with racial overtones in an attempt to boost "buzz" about a show simply because it stopped being relevant 20+ years ago.

The boat (from what I have read a Grand Craft) in the Kid Rock video is pretty bad ass though.

[tommymac]

In my view it is worse if it was set up. I don't really care about a demonstrated idiot doing what he does best, being an idiot. I am less likely to brush off creating a situation with racial overtones in an attempt to boost "buzz" about a show simply because it stopped being relevant 20+ years ago.

The boat (from what I have read a Grand Craft) in the Kid Rock video is pretty bad ass though.

Is there actualy a channel to see the kid rock video :lol:

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Is it easier if they have tight ass jeans or spandex? Men in make up?

Twisted Sister. I liked this song back in the day. LOL

Kiss?

James

You don't really think that Dee Snider takes himself seriously, do you? Have you ever heard him interviewed? And Gene Simmons is a consummate businessman. All that he takes seriously is marketing.

[Smittie61984]

Too bad someone else didnt come up take the mike away from him and pop a cap in his ass :lol:


Probably what he was hoping for (street cred). Then he could finally sell some records like Tupac and Biggie.

This is racist shit 100% (or at least bigoted). If Ciara was up there accepting an award for best female video then Kanye would have kept his sorry ass in his seat even if her video was nothing but a blank screen.

I'm not a huge Taylor Swift fan but she has more talent and class in one of her small tits than Kanye has in his entire body and 30 homeboy posse's body combined.

Beyounce was the class act of the night and I do not think it was staged either. I don't see Taylor Swift getting on board nor Beyounce. At most someone may have said to Beyounce (you need to defuse this).

[Amber Lamps]

Probably what he was hoping for (street cred). Then he could finally sell some records like Tupac and Biggie.

This is racist shit 100% (or at least bigoted). If Ciara was up there accepting an award for best female video then Kanye would have kept his sorry ass in his seat even if her video was nothing but a blank screen.

I'm not a huge Taylor Swift fan but she has more talent and class in one of her small tits than Kanye has in his entire body and 30 homeboy posse's body combined.

Beyounce was the class act of the night and I do not think it was staged either. I don't see Taylor Swift getting on board nor Beyounce. At most someone may have said to Beyounce (you need to defuse this).

I don't know bro... Taylor was SO broken up but managed to perform her insipid song a few minutes later...:lol: You're wrong about Kanye btw imho, I don't like the guy but I believe that he is very talented. I also don't think that it was race related. You white people are getting worse than us brothers at yelling race every time something goes down.:lol:

[Jet]

This is not news, Kayne West has always been a tool.
What did he do to this chick? Video = Removed

[Trip]

I don't know bro... Taylor was SO broken up but managed to perform her insipid song a few minutes later...:lol: You're wrong about Kanye btw imho, I don't like the guy but I believe that he is very talented. I also don't think that it was race related. You white people are getting worse than us brothers at yelling race every time something goes down.:lol:

You are only half a brother. We claim the other half of you. :nee:

[Homeslice]

one-drop rule in effect

[Smittie61984]

You white people are getting worse than us brothers at yelling race every time something goes down.:lol:

We've been called "racist" for any wrong move that we finally are able to have a chip on our shoulders.

I will admit that Kanye has talent. Well talent by today's standards. He'd be a talentless POS back in the day were rappers rapped.

[Papa_Complex]

I don't know bro... Taylor was SO broken up but managed to perform her insipid song a few minutes later...:lol: You're wrong about Kanye btw imho, I don't like the guy but I believe that he is very talented. I also don't think that it was race related. You white people are getting worse than us brothers at yelling race every time something goes down.:lol:

Call it a defence mechanism.

[Flexin]

I don't know bro... Taylor was SO broken up but managed to perform her insipid song a few minutes later...:lol: You're wrong about Kanye btw imho, I don't like the guy but I believe that he is very talented. I also don't think that it was race related. You white people are getting worse than us brothers at yelling race every time something goes down.:lol:

You noticed that too? LOL

James

[Flexin]

Probably what he was hoping for (street cred). Then he could finally sell some records like Tupac and Biggie.

This is racist shit 100% (or at least bigoted). If Ciara was up there accepting an award for best female video then Kanye would have kept his sorry ass in his seat even if her video was nothing but a blank screen.

I'm not a huge Taylor Swift fan but she has more talent and class in one of her small tits than Kanye has in his entire body and 30 homeboy posse's body combined.

Beyounce was the class act of the night and I do not think it was staged either. I don't see Taylor Swift getting on board nor Beyounce. At most someone may have said to Beyounce (you need to defuse this).

Kanye might be a prick but he has forgot more about music then Taylor knows.

James

[Kaneman]

They're all just actors in a big reality TV show doing what they're told in the interest of making more money. They way people eat this shit up is a bit unnerving.

[Flexin]

You don't really think that Dee Snider takes himself seriously, do you? Have you ever heard him interviewed? And Gene Simmons is a consummate businessman. All that he takes seriously is marketing.

Nope. I liked the song even though it wasn't my type of music. I have never heard him in an interview.

So he is joking.

Gene Simmons is a businessman.

Everyone in Rap/Hip Hop is a fake thug?

Master P got to where he is by selling his tapes from a car trunk. I was watching a show on him and he negotiated a record deal that paid him nothing up front but paid him more if he sold records. Is he not a businessman?

James

[Smittie61984]

Kanye might be a prick but he has forgot more about music then Taylor knows.

James

He's a rapper. That's Latin for "Person who makes money in the music industry without making music"

I also don't see how someone could compare the talent that Taylor Swift has vs Kanye West. Kanye West takes songs already made, remixes them and talks (he doesn't sing he talks). Taylor swift takes songs that don't exist, creates them, writes them, and performs them with an instrument. I'm not a huge Taylor swift fan and have enjoyed some Kanye West songs but he is no where near as talented musically (might be better producer/promoter) as Taylor Swift is.

I think race is an issue in this, but it's becuase she's a country singer and country singers are usually white along with country singers not being mainstream.

Seriously, what would happen if a white male artist went up and said "Congrats Beyounce, but Taylor Swift made the best video ever"? Think Jessie or Sharpton wouldn't be out in full force?

I would like to see him go up there and try that with some old country legends.

[Flexin]

He's a rapper. That's Latin for "Person who makes money in the music industry without making music"

I also don't see how someone could compare the talent that Taylor Swift has vs Kanye West. Kanye West takes songs already made, remixes them and talks (he doesn't sing he talks). Taylor swift takes songs that don't exist, creates them, writes them, and performs them with an instrument. I'm not a huge Taylor swift fan and have enjoyed some Kanye West songs but he is no where near as talented musically (might be better producer/promoter) as Taylor Swift is.

I think race is an issue in this, but it's becuase she's a country singer and country singers are usually white along with country singers not being mainstream.

Seriously, what would happen if a white male artist went up and said "Congrats Beyounce, but Taylor Swift made the best video ever"? Think Jessie or Sharpton wouldn't be out in full force?

I would like to see him go up there and try that with some old country legends.

Fuck Jessie and Sharpton. They will find anything to talk about. I really don't think Kayne did this because of race.

James

[Kaneman]

Fuck Jessie and Sharpton. They will find anything to talk about. I really don't think Kayne did this because of race.

James

He may not have done it because of his on personal racial issues, but the racial controversy surrounding Kayne West makes him the ideal candidate for this kind of thing. The race factor makes this a bigger news story, generates more web clicks and more viewer traffic.

Race had everything to do with this from a perspective of who was picked to go on stage and grab the mic. It has nothing to do with Kayne West's personal beliefs...only views that he has expressed previously in the media.

[Papa_Complex]

Nope. I liked the song even though it wasn't my type of music. I have never heard him in an interview.

So he is joking.

Gene Simmons is a businessman.

Everyone in Rap/Hip Hop is a fake thug?

Master P got to where he is by selling his tapes from a car trunk. I was watching a show on him and he negotiated a record deal that paid him nothing up front but paid him more if he sold records. Is he not a businessman?

James

Not all of them are fake, but we're talking difference of scale here. Prancing around in platform shoes isn't in the same ballpark as pretending to be a street thug.

[Homeslice]

He's a rapper. That's Latin for "Person who makes money in the music industry without making music"


One could say this about many pop singers too. Their producer creates the music for them.....There is no band...no instruments......it's all synthesized. All they do is sing. Now some of them did write their own lyrics, but most of them didn't.

[OneSickPsycho]

One could say this about many pop singers too. Their producer creates the music for them.....There is no band......All they do is sing. Now some of them did write their own lyrics, but most of them didn't.

I would be One.


Why does this have to be about race? Why can't someone JUST be an asshole?
20 seconds in...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWKkTXV86mI

[neebelung]

Kanye might be a prick but he has forgot more about music then Taylor knows.

James

Considering he's about twice her age, that's not a miraculous feat. :lol:

[neebelung]

Fuck Jessie and Sharpton. They will find anything to talk about. I really don't think Kayne did this because of race.

James

I agree with ya there; I don't think it's a race issue. Just an arrogant dickweed issue. :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

You noticed that too? LOL

James

Yea it's getting ridiculous. I call it the "Obama Effect"....:lol:

[derf]

Yea it's getting ridiculous. I call it the "Obama Effect"....:lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKIcrDsJAs

[Gas Man]

He's a racist fuck.

I didn't read the 8 pages on here.

[101lifts2]

Who fuckin cares about this shit? It is obviously staged for the reasons mentioned by others.

Just another loser IMO.

[Flexin]

He's a racist fuck.

I didn't read the 8 pages on here.

How is he racist when he gets up there saying the video that one video of the year should be best female video?

James

[Kaneman]

Seriously guys? Seriously?

[Gas Man]

How is he racist when he gets up there saying the video that one video of the year should be best female video?

James
Dont remember the whole katrina crap do you?

[Flexin]

Dont remember the whole katrina crap do you?

The whole Bush hates black people thing?

James

[Rangerscott]

If it wasn't for racism, he wouldnt have anything to say or rap (well if you call it that) about.

[Gas Man]

The whole Bush hates black people thing?

James

Yep that along with some of his songs and actions on camera and such.

If it wasn't for racism, he wouldnt have anything to say or rap (well if you call it that) about.

True

[Flexin]

If it wasn't for racism, he wouldnt have anything to say or rap (well if you call it that) about.

Hmmm? I guess I'm listening to a hole different set of Kanye songs then you.


I really like to know when this damn thread went to race and how. This is the main reason I was going to avoid it.

James

[Rangerscott]

Hmmm? I guess I'm listening to a hole different set of Kanye songs then you.


I really like to know when this damn thread went to race and how. This is the main reason I was going to avoid it.

James


I'm not talking about race. I'm not talking about african americans in general. I'm not even talking about you. I'm talking about Kayne.

[TommyHotWheel]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9530/kanyei.png



http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2825/horatio.png

[Amber Lamps]

Hmmm? I guess I'm listening to a hole different set of Kanye songs then you.


I really like to know when this damn thread went to race and how. This is the main reason I was going to avoid it.

James

I like some Kanye songs and I can't think of any that mention race...

Jesus Walks, Flashlight, etc... I doubt that most of these guys would know a Kanye West song if they heard it.:lol: My gf thinks that if things were the other way all the N***rs would accuse the white person of being a racist. She's a mountain girl and a bit of a racist herself. I don't see how that would be right either. Just because you think that the other group would do something wrong, doesn't make it okay for you to do it, does it?

[Flexin]

I like some Kanye songs and I can't think of any that mention race...

Jesus Walks, Flashlight, etc... I doubt that most of these guys would know a Kanye West song if they heard it.:lol: My gf thinks that if things were the other way all the N***rs would accuse the white person of being a racist. She's a mountain girl and a bit of a racist herself. I don't see how that would be right either. Just because you think that the other group would do something wrong, doesn't make it okay for you to do it, does it?

The only thing I can think of is "you can be my black Kate Moss." or something like that. I wouldn't call that racist.

It sucks that race is what it talked about. I don't know why it can't be a crazy singer told the world that someone else should have won an award WHILE the winner was doing her speech.

Kanye didn't say anything about her color so it shouldn't be assumed thats why he thinks Beyonce should have won.

James

[derf]

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs258.snc1/10525_1162695002059_1668381615_393444_5047533_n.jp g

[karl_1052]

Kanye might be a prick but he has forgot more about music then Taylor knows.

James

What instruments does he play?

Taylor Swift plays guitar.

[derf]

What instruments does he play?

Taylor Swift plays guitar.


http://hamptonsaudiovisualrentals.com/microphone.jpg

[neebelung]

Has anyone followed the tags on this thread? Bahahahah.... Tigger-esque?? Awesome..,,, :rofl:

[Kaneman]

GUYS!! SERIOUSLY!?!?!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/PsychoMedic/Cartman-751261.jpg

[neebelung]

:rofl:

[pauldun170]

:lol

[defector]

Why did he have to be so Dr. Evil?

[z06boy]

Kanye West is a fucking tool.

had a black woman won the award he wouldn't have done that...

I could care less about who wins what...

I find it find it funny that those that try the hardest to FIGHT the unfair discrimination... do nothing but reinforce it.

18 pages ? Wow...only read page one but will go with this one.

I don't listen to Taylor Swift but still...Kanye's a douchebag.

[Amber Lamps]

http://hamptonsaudiovisualrentals.com/microphone.jpg

Wrong, Kanye I believe he plays several instruments including the piano. At any rate, he was a successful producer before he became a performer. He's also an avid rock and roll aficionado. I'm not a huge fan or anything but to say he's without talent is ludicrous. Btw two of my uncles were Black Panthers so I understand where he gets his political pov...:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West

[Smittie61984]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West

He probably filled that out himself.

I still think Kanye West is a bigot. Racist is probably the wrong word because I don't believe he believes that black people are genetically superior to white people. But I believe he only cares about black people.

I also can't believe people think it's staged. When that dumbass from Rage Against The Machine climbed shit no one thought it was staged. Now suddenly a douchebag (who has more douchebag power than an all you can grab Affliction/Neck Tattoo/Gel/Gixxer giveaway convention powered by a nuclear reactor) that is black does a douchebag move and it's suddenly staged???

[Homeslice]

He may be a douchebag but he's smart.

You could tell that his Bush NOL statement was authentic Kanye, but once he spit out that gem, Hollywood power figures grabbed a pen and added him to their list of "controversial people" that they could use to their advantage in the future.

[Kaneman]

I also can't believe people think it's staged. When that dumbass from Rage Against The Machine climbed shit no one thought it was staged. Now suddenly a douchebag (who has more douchebag power than an all you can grab Affliction/Neck Tattoo/Gel/Gixxer giveaway convention powered by a nuclear reactor) that is black does a douchebag move and it's suddenly staged???

Probably because he was arrested afterward and spent the night in jail. Now, its not completely impossible to get the police involved in a joke/stunt....but it is much, much harder.

MTV and TV programing in general have fallen farther and farther into the void of scripted reality television. They are capitalizing on their knowledge that the general public is incredibly gullible and likely to buy anything they see...and also that they can't get enough of celebrity tiffs. They are making millions and millions of dollars off of Eminem vs. Mariah, Kate vs. Octomom, Angelina vs. Aniston and so on.

MTV is a tabloid and the VMA is their once a year change to grab some front page headlines for a few days without paying a cent in advertising. So they pick a popular rapper with a history of incendiary racial type comments and have him steal the mic from an innocent lil' white country singer to promote another black performer.

Dudes and dudettes, its a simpler formula than middle school algebra. They do it every year, the media covers the shit out of it and people eat it up like chicken wings.

[Flexin]

Probably because he was arrested afterward and spent the night in jail. Now, its not completely impossible to get the police involved in a joke/stunt....but it is much, much harder.

MTV and TV programing in general have fallen farther and farther into the void of scripted reality television. They are capitalizing on their knowledge that the general public is incredibly gullible and likely to buy anything they see...and also that they can't get enough of celebrity tiffs. They are making millions and millions of dollars off of Eminem vs. Mariah, Kate vs. Octomom, Angelina vs. Aniston and so on.

MTV is a tabloid and the VMA is their once a year change to grab some front page headlines for a few days without paying a cent in advertising. So they pick a popular rapper with a history of incendiary racial type comments and have him steal the mic from an innocent lil' white country singer to promote another black performer.

Dudes and dudettes, its a simpler formula than middle school algebra. They do it every year, the media covers the shit out of it and people eat it up like chicken wings.

BG? Is that you? LOL

James

[Homeslice]

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ABC sorry it tweeted Obama's 'jackass' comment
2 hrs 56 mins ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) – ABC News has apologized after a high-profile news anchor reported on Twitter that US President Barack Obama called rapper Kanye West a "jackass" in an off-the-record conversation.

The exchange, provoked by West's conduct at the MTV Video Music Awards when he interrupted an acceptance speech by teen star Taylor Swift, occurred during a break between a series of interviews by Obama at the White House Monday.

The comment, from an off-the-record portion of an interview by US business channel CNBC, was tweeted to one million followers on the micro-blogging site by "Nightline" anchor Terry Moran. The tweet was later deleted.

"In the process of reporting on remarks by President Obama that were made during a CNBC interview, ABC News employees prematurely tweeted a portion of those remarks that turned out to be from an off-the-record portion of the interview," said ABC News in a statement late Monday.

"This was done before our editorial process had been completed. That was wrong. We apologize to the White House and CNBC and are taking steps to ensure that it will not happen again."

ABC News senior vice president Jeffrey Schneider said that the organization had reached out to the White House and CNBC in a series of telephone calls.

"It was a mistake. It's certainly one that we regret. We certainly made that very clear to CNBC and the White House," he said.

The White House declined to comment on the controversy.

"I'm not going to get into what the president had to say in an off-the-record conversation," said Obama's deputy press secretary Bill Burton.

ABC said several staffers heard the comment because they share a transmission line with CNBC, but did not hear the stipulation that the comments were not for reporting.

[neebelung]

I love it; I heard that earlier and just :dvrofl: The best part, however, is that the Tweet was removed... But for what? To be reported on every website and news outlet? Double awesomeness. :lol:

[derf]

I love it; I heard that earlier and just :dvrofl: The best part, however, is that the Tweet was removed... But for what? To be reported on every website and news outlet? Double awesomeness. :lol:

Seriously, removing it is the story, not that he said the word asshole.

[Mr Lefty]

i just gained respect for Obama

[derf]

i just gained respect for Obama

I think alot of folks did. A few more comments like that and universal healthcare might actually happen

[neebelung]

And speaking of... The gay fish South Park episode is on.... :rofl:

[derf]

http://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kanye-west-internet-11.jpg

[Dragonpaco]

this thread got alot better after i got high

[Kaneman]

Colbert has a hilarious report on this whole debacle.

[Mr Lefty]

Colbert has a hilarious report on this whole debacle.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/95648/the-colbert-report-kanye-west-interrupts-taylor-swift-at-the-vmas#s-p1-st-i1

[LeeNetworX]

He may be a douchebag but he's smart.

ORLY?

Have you seen or heard anything about his 52-page "book"? It contains tidbits of Kanye wisdom such as "Get use to being used", in giant red fonts that take up entire portions of the 52 pages. And this is from a guy that has proclaimed that he’s a “proud non-reader” who doesn’t see the value in books.

Your opinion of this douchebag being smart is laughable. He may be able to sell crap music to the general population, but all you really need for that is a good producer...no street smarts needed.

[Tmall]

Don't

[Tmall]

Stupid phone! I can't edit or delete with it either..

[neebelung]

He may be able to sell crap music to the general population, but all you really need for that is a good producer...no street smarts needed.

agreed. I think often people mistake industry savvy for actual intelligence.

[karl_1052]

agreed. I think often people mistake industry savvy for actual intelligence.

But industry savvy is VERY rarely related to the actual "artist". It is always the record companies and agents who are making all the smart moves.

[neebelung]

But industry savvy is VERY rarely related to the actual "artist". It is always the record companies and agents who are making all the smart moves.

Oh absolutely. It's a producer lookin at someone going "I can package that and sell a zillion records."

[z06boy]

i just gained respect for Obama

It definitely helped.

[OneSickPsycho]

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ABC sorry it tweeted Obama's 'jackass' comment
2 hrs 56 mins ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) – ABC News has apologized after a high-profile news anchor reported on Twitter that US President Barack Obama called rapper Kanye West a "jackass" in an off-the-record conversation.

The exchange, provoked by West's conduct at the MTV Video Music Awards when he interrupted an acceptance speech by teen star Taylor Swift, occurred during a break between a series of interviews by Obama at the White House Monday.

The comment, from an off-the-record portion of an interview by US business channel CNBC, was tweeted to one million followers on the micro-blogging site by "Nightline" anchor Terry Moran. The tweet was later deleted.

"In the process of reporting on remarks by President Obama that were made during a CNBC interview, ABC News employees prematurely tweeted a portion of those remarks that turned out to be from an off-the-record portion of the interview," said ABC News in a statement late Monday.

"This was done before our editorial process had been completed. That was wrong. We apologize to the White House and CNBC and are taking steps to ensure that it will not happen again."

ABC News senior vice president Jeffrey Schneider said that the organization had reached out to the White House and CNBC in a series of telephone calls.

"It was a mistake. It's certainly one that we regret. We certainly made that very clear to CNBC and the White House," he said.

The White House declined to comment on the controversy.

"I'm not going to get into what the president had to say in an off-the-record conversation," said Obama's deputy press secretary Bill Burton.

ABC said several staffers heard the comment because they share a transmission line with CNBC, but did not hear the stipulation that the comments were not for reporting.

Makes me like Obama a little more... and EXCELLENT use of smilies...

[goof2]

Don't

stop, thinking about tomorrow?

[karl_1052]

stop, thinking about tomorrow?

yikes!

[Amber Lamps]

ORLY?

Have you seen or heard anything about his 52-page "book"? It contains tidbits of Kanye wisdom such as "Get use to being used", in giant red fonts that take up entire portions of the 52 pages. And this is from a guy that has proclaimed that he’s a “proud non-reader” who doesn’t see the value in books.

Your opinion of this douchebag being smart is laughable. He may be able to sell crap music to the general population, but all you really need for that is a good producer...no street smarts needed.


Um he is a producer....a very successful one at that. I'm not saying that you guys are wrong but it's obvious that most of you don't know diddily squat about Kanye West except for his stupid remarks about Bush and this latest foolishness.:lol:

[karl_1052]

Um he is a producer....a very successful one at that. I'm not saying that you guys are wrong but it's obvious that most of you don't know diddily squat about Kanye West except for his stupid remarks about Bush and this latest foolishness.:lol:

I know he is not white.
:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

I know he is not white.
:lol:

Well that's good enough right there!!!:lol: Get the rope boys!!!:lol:

I don't know why this had to get all "racial", Kanye said something negative about Bush, so? White people haven't stopped slamming on Obama since before he was even elected and you don't want to be labeled racist do you? Yes, I know that some idiots DO label you racist if you are against him but I don't until you use the "N" word!:lol::lol::lol:

[neebelung]

Um he is a producer....a very successful one at that. I'm not saying that you guys are wrong but it's obvious that most of you don't know diddily squat about Kanye West except for his stupid remarks about Bush and this latest foolishness.:lol:

Um, yeah, actually I was aware. And his being a producer makes him less of a douchebag how? :lol:

people don't have to know his blood type and the name of his first grade teacher to know he's an ignorant dickweed; he reminds us of that fact all too often. :dthumb:

[neebelung]

Well that's good enough right there!!!:lol: Get the rope boys!!!:lol:

I don't know why this had to get all "racial", Kanye said something negative about Bush, so? White people haven't stopped slamming on Obama since before he was even elected and you don't want to be labeled racist do you? Yes, I know that some idiots DO label you racist if you are against him but I don't until you use the "N" word!:lol::lol::lol:

Oh jeez Tig, he was kidding... :lol: :lol: :lol:

and you don't have to use the "n" word to be a racist; it's in how you think about and act toward people of other races, and if you consider them to be on your same level, or if you somehow consider yourself superior to them.

And by suggesting that someone can only be a racist if they use the "n" word, you're suggesting that only black people are subjected to racism. What about spics, beaners, chinks, slant eyes, etc.....?

[Flexin]

Um, yeah, actually I was aware. And his being a producer makes him less of a douchebag how? :lol:

people don't have to know his blood type and the name of his first grade teacher to know he's an ignorant dickweed; he reminds us of that fact all too often. :dthumb:

He is talking about Kanye being a producer because Lee said "Your opinion of this douchebag being smart is laughable. He may be able to sell crap music to the general population, but all you really need for that is a good producer...no street smarts needed."

He is a producer and a very good one at that. Does that make him less of a prick? No.

James

[neebelung]

He is a producer and a very good one at that. Does that make him less of a prick?No.

James
:dthumb:

But just to clarify:Lee's post was also regarding Kanye's alleged intelligence; being a good producer isn't necessarily indicative of high intelligence. :shrug:

[defector]

This just in:

Kanye West interrupted Patrick Swayze's funeral to let the world know that Michael Jackson's funeral was better.

[Amber Lamps]

Um, yeah, actually I was aware. And his being a producer makes him less of a douchebag how? :lol:

people don't have to know his blood type and the name of his first grade teacher to know he's an ignorant dickweed; he reminds us of that fact all too often. :dthumb:

No,no,no. I never said he's not a "dickweed" read the post I quoted. I'll wait.

Here, I'll help you,

Some said, he was "smart", someone else said that HE didn't have to be smart to sell records but only needed a "smart" producer. I pointed out that he IS the producer. Simple.

As the "Kanye" of this forum based on the tags you guys have put up, I'll "defend" him only to this point; He has a right to his opinion. Lots of people thought Bush was a dumbass. Lots of people thought that Katrina was mishandled. He's not alone in lots of his opinions, some I agree with, some I do not. Bob Dylan had some crazy opinions, so did Lennon, that doesn't mean that their music sucked or that they were "douchebags".:idk:

What he did to Taylor Swift was definitely an asshole move for sure. Although, I also have a feeling that it was staged. There's an ARMY of handlers backstage at the VMAs, I doubt that a mouse could get onto that stage unscheduled.:lol:

[z06boy]

This just in:

Kanye West interrupted Patrick Swayze's funeral to let the world know that Michael Jackson's funeral was better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/thezentree/swayzekanye.jpg

[neebelung]

:dvrofl: Oh Tigger, Tigger, Tigger..... :lol: bless your pea pickin lil heart.... :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Oh jeez Tig, he was kidding... :lol: :lol: :lol:

and you don't have to use the "n" word to be a racist; it's in how you think about and act toward people of other races, and if you consider them to be on your same level, or if you somehow consider yourself superior to them.

And by suggesting that someone can only be a racist if they use the "n" word, you're suggesting that only black people are subjected to racism. What about spics, beaners, chinks, slant eyes, etc.....?

Oh I don't really care what you consider "racist", I said that I don't consider you to be racist when criticizing Obama until you use the "N" word. Last I knew Obama isn't Asian or Hispanic... I wasn't trying to define the word racist.:lol: I certainly wasn't trying to "define" anything other than what I consider to be "racist" when you are dealing with President Obama.:lol: Gee, I wonder where the nasty tags are coming from?:lol:

[Homeslice]

:dthumb:

But just to clarify:Lee's post was also regarding Kanye's alleged intelligence; being a good producer isn't necessarily indicative of high intelligence. :shrug:

Maybe it's the type of intelligence you & I don't have, or else we'd be doing what he does. There's more than one kind of intelligence. :shrug:

[Amber Lamps]

Maybe it's the type of intelligence you & I don't have, or else we'd be doing what he does. There's more than one kind of intelligence. :shrug:

Yea it's like calling the president stupid. For all his faults, you don't get where he is without some amount of talent and/or intelligence.:idk:

[Amber Lamps]

:dvrofl: Oh Tigger, Tigger, Tigger..... :lol: bless your pea pickin lil heart.... :lol:

Well thank you and bless your vague, conclusion jumping and misinterpreting heart....:lol:

[neebelung]

Well thank you and bless your vague, conclusion jumping and misinterpreting heart....:lol:

I have yet to be vague, conclusion jumping nor misinterpreting. :lol: I've been all too clear with my opninions here. Now if you either don't agree with them, or just don't get it :shrug: well, I dunno what to tell ya then.... :lol: I'm merely amused at the fact that despite your admission that Kanye acted in a dickweedy manner, you're so quick to defend him at every turn. :shrug:

[tommymac]

I have yet to be vague, conclusion jumping nor misinterpreting. :lol: I've been all too clear with my opninions here. Now if you either don't agree with them, or just don't get it :shrug: well, I dunno what to tell ya then.... :lol: I'm merely amused at the fact that despite your admission that Kanye acted in a dickweedy manner, you're so quick to defend him at every turn. :shrug:

Hes the president of the Kanye fan club :lol:

Tom

[askmrjesus]

Hes the president of the Kanye fan club :lol:

Tom

Well if he's a President, he must be smart, right? :lol:

JC

[Smittie61984]

i just gained respect for Obama

If he said it while a smoke hung out the side of his mouth I'd elect him President of Awesome for life.

Someone was curious what would happen if he tried that with 50cent...
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621544/20090915/50_cent.jhtml
At that point, you can't replace it," 50 added. "Even an apology can't replace what it feels like for the very first time receiving that award. Now in her head, 'My first award was Kanye West.' And it's damaging. I wish he would come take one of my awards so I can black his eye in front of everybody."

[Mr Lefty]

I can't believe there's over 200 post in this thread...

[Smittie61984]

I can't believe there's over 200 post in this thread...

TWFix hates black people - Kanye West

[Mr Lefty]

TWFix hates black people - Kanye West


Yo smittie... great post... but VS had one of the greatest motorcycle forums of all time! of ALL TIME!

[neebelung]

Sorry, totally missed this earlier...

But....ignoring your mindless ramblings on racism, because you're ethnocentric, and seem to think racism only affects black people. :rofl:

Gee, I wonder where the nasty tags are coming From? :lol:

actually, not from me. Some were there yesterday (I even commented on "tigger esque" cus I found it hilarious :lol:)... But nope, the 'nasty' tags didn't come from me. Believe me, I'd gleefully take credit for them... Alas, someone else beat me to it apparently! :lol:

[neebelung]

Speaking of tags - 2 kanyes 1 cup = :dvrofl:
nice work, whoever that was!! :rofl:

[derf]

Speaking of tags - 2 kanyes 1 cup = :dvrofl:
nice work, whoever that was!! :rofl:

Thank you, thank you. Wasnt me but i will take the credit

[Rangerscott]

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Main_Page

[Smittie61984]

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Main_Page

Hahahhaa. That is awesome...
http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Kanye_West

I loved this...
Like many rappers, West grew up in an upper-class Chicago suburb where his mother was chair of the state university’s English Department

[derf]

http://gawker.com/5360178/obamas-kanye-judgment-caught-on-tape

Audio from the presidents jackass comments

[azoomm]

http://gawker.com/5360178/obamas-kanye-judgment-caught-on-tape

Audio from the presidents jackass comments

Kanye West might be the best thing for the President's "more mortal" appearance. I mean, I caught the audio on the radio just after it was released and I laughed my ass off in the car. It was a conversation that any one of us could have been having that day... well, except Tigger. :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Kanye West might be the best thing for the President's "more mortal" appearance. I mean, I caught the audio on the radio just after it was released and I laughed my ass off in the car. It was a conversation that any one of us could have been having that day... well, except Tigger. :lol:

You know what's REALLY funny? You broads have obviously got me mixed up with Flexin'!:lol: I don't think that I've actually defended Kanye's actions on the VMAs in the least. All I said was that I don't think that he's stupid, a racist or untalented. Just because he has different opinions than yours doesn't make him stupid. Several of you have said things about Obama (especially before he was elected) that if they were broadcast around the country would seem just as "kooky" as what Kanye said about Bush. Besides, I lived in Texas and it's not THAT far fetched tp accuse a rich, white guy from Texas of being racist...:lol:

[derf]

You know what's REALLY funny? You broads have obviously got me mixed up with Flexin'!:lol: I don't think that I've actually defended Kanye's actions on the VMAs in the least. All I said was that I don't think that he's stupid, a racist or untalented. Just because he has different opinions than yours doesn't make him stupid. Several of you have said things about Obama (especially before he was elected) that if they were broadcast around the country would seem just as "kooky" as what Kanye said about Bush. Besides, I lived in Texas and it's not THAT far fetched tp accuse a rich, white guy from Texas of being racist...:lol:

You're right hes probably very intelligent, however he has a severe lack of social skills. And I have no doubt that he isn't the least bit remorseful, he's only sorry about the public backlash that has followed

[tommymac]

You're right hes probably very intelligent, however he has a severe lack of social skills. And I have no doubt that he isn't the least bit remorseful, he's only sorry about the public backlash that has followed

this backlash will prolly help his career in that it will keep him in the news as opposed to drifing off into obscurity.

Tom

[Flexin]

You know what's REALLY funny? You broads have obviously got me mixed up with Flexin'!:lol: I don't think that I've actually defended Kanye's actions on the VMAs in the least. All I said was that I don't think that he's stupid, a racist or untalented. Just because he has different opinions than yours doesn't make him stupid. Several of you have said things about Obama (especially before he was elected) that if they were broadcast around the country would seem just as "kooky" as what Kanye said about Bush. Besides, I lived in Texas and it's not THAT far fetched tp accuse a rich, white guy from Texas of being racist...:lol:

LOL Whats is with the black on black crime? Throwing a brother under a bus. LOL

I didn't defend him. I did say he had a right to his opinion and can voice it if he likes BUT he picked the wrong mother fucking time to do so.

I also said it didn't matter how young she was because it was wrong to do it to anyone of any age.

I did defend his music talents.

James

[Amber Lamps]

You're right hes probably very intelligent, however he has a severe lack of social skills. And I have no doubt that he isn't the least bit remorseful, he's only sorry about the public backlash that has followed

Oh I totally agree with that! Although, I can't let go of the idea that this was all staged! I bet Obama was in on it and they did it just to make Obama look better and get healthcare through!!!! The sneaky bastards!!! Remember when the Republican fringe accused Clinton of launching an offensive just to take some of the focus off Monica?:lol:

[Flexin]

Oh I totally agree with that! Although, I can't let go of the idea that this was all staged! I bet Obama was in on it and they did it just to make Obama look better and get healthcare through!!!! The sneaky bastards!!! Remember when the Republican fringe accused Clinton of launching an offensive just to take some of the focus off Monica?:lol:


http://www.tz-uk.com/pics/tinfoilhat.jpg

LOL

James

[Amber Lamps]

LOL Whats is with the black on black crime? Throwing a brother under a bus. LOL

I didn't defend him. I did say he had a right to his opinion and can voice it if he likes BUT he picked the wrong mother fucking time to do so.

I also said it didn't matter how young she was because it was wrong to do it to anyone of any age.

I did defend his music talents.

James


Yea well your black ass sat back and let a brother take your motherfuckin' heat dog! How you gonna play a nigga? Shoot! I'm up in this motherfuckin hostile territory representing and your ass in coolin in the crib peepin my ass getting roasted and don't be saying shit! Motherfuckin Neebs is gettin the damn rope and Azoom is done fired up the motherfuckin truck, fuck the damn bus dog! Shit motherfucker you need to be throwin a brother a life line and shit!
:lol:

[TommyHotWheel]

Yea well your black ass sat back and let a brother take your motherfuckin' heat dog! How you gonna play a nigga? Shoot! I'm up in this motherfuckin hostile territory representing and your ass in coolin in the crib peepin my ass getting roasted and don't be saying shit! Motherfuckin Neebs is gettin the damn rope and Azoom is done fired up the motherfuckin truck, fuck the damn bus dog! Shit motherfucker you need to be throwin a brother a life line and shit!
:lol:

I'm from Detroit and that rant made me blush...






... mostly cuz I farted when I read it cuz I laughed so hard and someone walked into my office....

[Amber Lamps]

I'm from Detroit and that rant made me blush...






... mostly cuz I farted when I read it cuz I laughed so hard and someone walked into my office....

Wooo go Lions!!!

[Flexin]

Yea well your black ass sat back and let a brother take your motherfuckin' heat dog! How you gonna play a nigga? Shoot! I'm up in this motherfuckin hostile territory representing and your ass in coolin in the crib peepin my ass getting roasted and don't be saying shit! Motherfuckin Neebs is gettin the damn rope and Azoom is done fired up the motherfuckin truck, fuck the damn bus dog! Shit motherfucker you need to be throwin a brother a life line and shit!
:lol:

LOL. I was going to come in like a black Robin Hood and shoot the rope with an arrow before you were dragged too far. I got your back. LOL

James

[TommyHotWheel]

Wooo go Lions!!!



No need for the salt sir.....:td:

[neebelung]

Kanye West might be the best thing for the President's "more mortal" appearance. I mean, I caught the audio on the radio just after it was released and I laughed my ass off in the car. It was a conversation that any one of us could have been having that day... well, except Tigger. :lol:

:rofl: I finally heard the audio yesterday: great stuff!!!!! Absolutely himanized him. :dthumb:

[neebelung]

Yea well your black ass sat back and let a brother take your motherfuckin' heat dog! How you gonna play a nigga? Shoot! I'm up in this motherfuckin hostile territory representing and your ass in coolin in the crib peepin my ass getting roasted and don't be saying shit! Motherfuckin Neebs is gettin the damn rope and Azoom is done fired up the motherfuckin truck, fuck the damn bus dog! Shit motherfucker you need to be throwin a brother a life line and shit!
:lol:


:dvrofl: alright, that was funny shit right there.... :lol:

[karl_1052]

Yea well your black ass sat back and let a brother take your motherfuckin' heat dog! How you gonna play a nigga? Shoot! I'm up in this motherfuckin hostile territory representing and your ass in coolin in the crib peepin my ass getting roasted and don't be saying shit! Motherfuckin Neebs is gettin the damn rope and Azoom is done fired up the motherfuckin truck, fuck the damn bus dog! Shit motherfucker you need to be throwin a brother a life line and shit!
:lol:

:lol
best post ever!

[LeeNetworX]

Speaking of tags - 2 kanyes 1 cup = :dvrofl:
nice work, whoever that was!! :rofl:

What/where are these tags you keep talking about?

[Homeslice]

Right below you?

[neebelung]

What/where are these tags you keep talking about?

Scroll down to the bottom of the thread page and you'll see a box with tags. :lol: And there's some good ones... :rofl:

The best one on TWFix to-date, however is "Fap Fap to the Chi." :dvrofl:

[askmrjesus]

Right below you?

No, right below Neebs.

Well, right below me now.

No wonder they're so hard to find, they keep moving!

JC

[Homeslice]

No, right below Neebs.

Well, right below me now.

No wonder they're so hard to find, they keep moving!

JC

Mouse handling is a complex skill.

[marko138]

You know what's REALLY funny? You broads have obviously got me mixed up with Flexin'!:lol: I don't think that I've actually defended Kanye's actions on the VMAs in the least. All I said was that I don't think that he's stupid, a racist or untalented. Just because he has different opinions than yours doesn't make him stupid. Several of you have said things about Obama (especially before he was elected) that if they were broadcast around the country would seem just as "kooky" as what Kanye said about Bush. Besides, I lived in Texas and it's not THAT far fetched tp accuse a rich, white guy from Texas of being racist...:lol:

Have you heard this guy's music? He's absolutely untalented. :squint:

[LeeNetworX]

Scroll down to the bottom of the thread page and you'll see a box with tags. :lol: And there's some good ones... :rofl:

The best one on TWFix to-date, however is "Fap Fap to the Chi." :dvrofl:


Shit. I use the dark blue scheme and with my laptop brightness set to a dim level (to keep prying eyes from it) the "Tags" never caught my attention.