Dog Training types...question.

[marko138]

I have a question for anyone who may be able to help. My dog has gotten into the habit recently of waking me up in the middle of the night because he has to either pee or poo or both.

This just started happening within the last week or two. He wakes up, goes down stairs. I am a light sleeper so his jingling tags wake me up when he moves. He runs from the door to the bottom of the steps several times. I tell him to come back to the bedroom and tell him to lay down. He does, but only for a few minutes.

He repeats this. Then he'll stand on the edge of the bed to wake me up (he's not allowed on the bed or any furniture). Then he'll run from the edge of the bed to the top of the steps. Again, I tell him to lay down. He does, briefly.

This will go on until I finally get up and let him out. I usually wait a while, hoping he'll go back to sleep. At which point he sprints to the yard and does his business.

I've been trying to ignore him and make him go to sleep. But he will just keep at it all night. Eventually I get so fucking annoyed that I take him out, and after, he immediately goes back to sleep.





Does anyone have any advice or course of action? Kaneman? Anyone?

:ty:

[Rider]

Assuming you are letting him out before you go to bed, he should be able to hold it all night long at this age. Do you take him for regular walks during the day so he can burn some energy?

My dog wakes up at 5:30 every morning. I wish he'd sleep for another hour but it ain't happening. He'll claw at me until I get up and let him out. Usually after 5:30am I can go back to sleep for an hour.

Our schedule is pretty much like this:
5:30am - out to pee
5:31am - eat
5:32am - out to poo
8:30am - out to pee
12:30pm - out to pee
4:30pm - eat
4:31pm - out to poo and pee
7:30pm - out to pee
10:30pm - out to poo and pee.

Just get him on a regular schedule.

[Krypt Keeper]

Yep, my dog goes out just before we go to bed. She comes back in and sleeps till whenever the next morning. I leave for work at 6am and have seen her on the weekend sleep from 10pm at night to Noon the next day. Shes more like an over grown cat than a dog.

[marko138]

Assuming you are letting him out before you go to bed, he should be able to hold it all night long at this age. Do you take him for regular walks during the day so he can burn some energy?

My dog wakes up at 5:30 every morning. I wish he'd sleep for another hour but it ain't happening. He'll claw at me until I get up and let him out. Usually after 5:30am I can go back to sleep for an hour.

Our schedule is pretty much like this:
5:30am - out to pee
5:31am - eat
5:32am - out to poo
8:30am - out to pee
12:30pm - out to pee
4:30pm - eat
4:31pm - out to poo and pee
7:30pm - out to pee
10:30pm - out to poo and pee.

Just get him on a regular schedule.
Yeah, he always goes out right before bed. Usually around 11pm. He starts waking up to go out around 2am. He gets plenty of exercise, especially Sundays when we go to my wife's inlaws...he runs around, swims, etc. That shouldn't be the problem.


Like I said, he has just started doing this within the last week or so...but it's become every night. And he holds it all day while we are at work. And he's only 3.5 years old. This shouldn't be an issue.




He's always had basically the same schedule.

7:15am Up and out to pee, then eat, then back out to poo.
8:40am I leave for work, he pees before I leave.
Noon-ish some times I come home for lunch, sometimes not.
5pm wife gets home, he pees
5:30pm he eats then poos
11pm bedtime, pee again

[Tmall]

Your dog needs to piss. You can either take your chances and see if he,ll hold it and potentially clean a mess.

Or you can let him out.

But, if it is a new development, I'd worry about some kind of urinary infection.

[marko138]

Your dog needs to piss. You can either take your chances and see if he,ll hold it and potentially clean a mess.

Or you can let him out.

But, if it is a new development, I'd worry about some kind of urinary infection.
I know he needs to piss. He's not bluffing...fucker pees something fierce when he gets outside.

He'll hold it, but he's not gonna let me go back to sleep until he pees.

[Tmall]

Then I would think there's something wrong.

I've had stretches where I come home to shit right as soon as I walk through the door. And its always something medical. He's almost embarrassed that he's shit in the house.

[OneSickPsycho]

I know he needs to piss. He's not bluffing...fucker pees something fierce when he gets outside.

He'll hold it, but he's not gonna let me go back to sleep until he pees.


Unless he just started drinkin a lot right before bed I'd wonder about a UTI as well...

[marko138]

Then I would think there's something wrong.

I've had stretches where I come home to shit right as soon as I walk through the door. And its always something medical. He's almost embarrassed that he's shit in the house.
Yeah I know what you mean. Last time he shit in the house he didn't go after breakfast. He wouldn't go and I had to leave for work. When I got home he was embarrassed, hiding behind the table. Guess he just couldn't hold it any longer.

Guess maybe I should call the Vet.

[Rider]

Watch his water intake. He he is suddenly drinking a lot more water, you may want to get him checked for canine diabetes.

[azoomm]

Then I would think there's something wrong.

That's what I was thinking, that it isn't a development issue.

[marko138]

Also, it's not just peeing. He's pooping at night too. Sometimes both...but always one or the other.


And he does not appear to be drinking any more water than normal. But he does drink a lot. He's a hyper lab...always running around...needs his water.

[Rider]

Cut off his water after he eats dinner every night.

[marko138]

Cut off his water after he eats dinner every night.
That sounds sorta cruel. :idk:

[the chi]

Im with Rider, cut off his water at say 8 or so every night, before bed and see how that goes. Its not cruel, its simply training. Better to try that first then go spend a couple hundred bucks at the vets for a bunch of tests that may not tell you the issue.

Its also a form of training for puppies, especially those kennel trained. All of my pups have been trained like that, no food or water after a certain time, until they get a good schedule and can do their business outside at certain times.

[azoomm]

Does your dog need to go outside during the day more than usual? Or, is it just at night?

[marko138]

Does your dog need to go outside during the day more than usual? Or, is it just at night?
Just night. Daytime is the same as always.

[Particle Man]

teach him to use the toilet. :D

[marko138]

teach him to use the toilet. :D
Man, I wish.

[azoomm]

Just night. Daytime is the same as always.

Oooooo, I'd remove food and water bowls after eating "dinner" and see if things change. It's much like potty training a child, no drinks after a certain time of night... no liquid in, no liquid out.

There is no harm in not having liquids for a particular time.

If it continues, or occurs during the day I would think something is up like a UTI...

[marko138]

I try this, see if it makes a difference.

[Particle Man]

I try this, see if it makes a difference.

Kids do stuff like that too... all of the sudden they're waking up at 2am wanting a drink of water because they can :D

3.5 years old = he's old enough to start effin' with your head :lol:

[wildchild]

my boxer went through the same thing a few months back. I honestly think she was just seeing if I would get up with her. after a couple weeks of 2 am "rest stops" she now sleeps all the way through the night again.

[Gas Man]

Unless he just started drinkin a lot right before bed I'd wonder about a UTI as well...

Cut off his water after he eats dinner every night.

Im with Rider, cut off his water at say 8 or so every night, before bed and see how that goes. Its not cruel, its simply training. Better to try that first then go spend a couple hundred bucks at the vets for a bunch of tests that may not tell you the issue.

Its also a form of training for puppies, especially those kennel trained. All of my pups have been trained like that, no food or water after a certain time, until they get a good schedule and can do their business outside at certain times.

This sums it up. We cut the dogs water off after about 9pm unless we were out late, in which they didn't eat or drink till 8 or 9. But cut out the water at 9 and go from there.

I have did the "take him to the vet" thing and F that. He pukes a couple times or has loose poo, take him to the vet and they say "dietary indiscreation" pay $150. F that! Dogs are solid and strong.

Control his water for a bit to break the habbit. Then try pushing the water later to like 10 and go from there. Logan just went thru the EXACT same thing abt a month ago. Every night 2-3am have to go out. I tried the SAME thing you did but it never worked. And once Logan gets up Brinks gets up. No brinks who normally sleeps all night no problems is up. Try ignoring 200# of dog!! :gofurslf:

Now Logan is back to normal and so is Brinks. They get water till about 10-11 at night and go all night till 7am or whatever when I or the wife gets up. Sometimes even then we have to wake them up.

Bottom line... they are 4 legged, hairy kids. You must adapt to make them adapt.

[marko138]

Just got back from lunch. Took dog out to pee...what else is new? :lol:

[Cutty72]

Another reason why my dog lives outside. She can pee and poo whenever she feels like it. BUT she is good enough that she will not have a "accident" in the vehicle or when at my hunting buddies house.

[OneSickPsycho]

Another reason why my dog lives outside. She can pee and poo whenever she feels like it. BUT she is good enough that she will not have a "accident" in the vehicle or when at my hunting buddies house.

That's animal cruelty.





Anyone remember that? Are any of those idiots still on the board? Or was that :twf:

[Cutty72]

Yeah, think that was the old place.

[TYEster]

Would a dog door be out of the question?

If so why?(curious for future knowledge)

[Cutty72]

Would a dog door be out of the question?

If so why?(curious for future knowledge)

Guess would be lack of fenced/secure yard. Not sure though. Also you lose some effiency of the house, and some security of the house with a dog door.

Oh... and I have seen "other" animals use dog doors too, never a good day.

[TYEster]

Guess would be lack of fenced/secure yard. Not sure though. Also you lose some effiency of the house, and some security of the house with a dog door.

Oh... and I have seen "other" animals use dog doors too, never a good day.

IC

[OneSickPsycho]

Guess would be lack of fenced/secure yard. Not sure though. Also you lose some effiency of the house, and some security of the house with a dog door.

Oh... and I have seen "other" animals use dog doors too, never a good day.

Actually... That's a great day... If it happens to your neighbor and you have a fridge full of beer.

[Cutty72]

Actually... That's a great day... If it happens to your neighbor and you have a fridge full of beer.

True story.

[marko138]

Guess would be lack of fenced/secure yard. Not sure though. Also you lose some effiency of the house, and some security of the house with a dog door.

Oh... and I have seen "other" animals use dog doors too, never a good day.

Yeah, I won't put one in for those reasons.



We cut off his water at 9pm last night. He did not wake me up to go out. I'm not ready to say it's a success...but hopefully this will solve his problems.

[CrazyKell]

I was going to say UTI or bladder crystals. Can cause problems in both #1 and #2.

Glad to hear you had a successful night.

[Gas Man]

The cat had some of that. Could never get it fixed well even though her pH was good. I put her on urinary track health purina one. No problems since. (knock on wood)

[marko138]

I'll continue with the cutting his water at 9pm deal and see if he continues to sleep. If so, then we've found success. We'll see what happens.

[OneSickPsycho]

The cat had some of that. Could never get it fixed well even though her pH was good. I put her on urinary track health purina one. No problems since. (knock on wood)

The Bear had some stones a few years back and has been on that food ever since. No more hissin while he's pissin... The new cat will be eating the same shit.

[Gas Man]

Yep, good shit. but damn its greasy feelin.

[marko138]

Day 2 of cutting off his water at 9pm. He get up once and walk downstairs. But he might have just been checking something out. He didn't make any noise and came back up pretty quickly and laid down. I didn't even call him back up. So...two days of success so far.

Hopefully you all are right, he's just drinking too much water. So far so good. Now, if I could just sleep through the night.

[Gas Man]

Cool!

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah, think that was the old place.

Really, I thought that involved Nazi Kyle... He had some situation with his neighbor and his dog that he left outside.:idk:

[marko138]

Well, 3 days of cutting off his water at 9pm. So far so good.

[Amber Lamps]

Day 2 of cutting off his water at 9pm. He get up once and walk downstairs. But he might have just been checking something out. He didn't make any noise and came back up pretty quickly and laid down. I didn't even call him back up. So...two days of success so far.

Hopefully you all are right, he's just drinking too much water. So far so good. Now, if I could just sleep through the night.

I'm glad that it seems to be working! I was going to agree with everyone but they covered it so.... You're a really good dog parent to be sleepless because one of your "kids" has a problem. FWIW I believe that dogs can go days without water, heck, my dog goes 12 hours everyday when I am working and he's quite healthy. Hey you make it all night without water....:wink: I totally agree with Gas, that people tend to run to the vet a little too fast sometimes.:idk:

[marko138]

I'm glad that it seems to be working! I was going to agree with everyone but they covered it so.... You're a really good dog parent to be sleepless because one of your "kids" has a problem. FWIW I believe that dogs can go days without water, heck, my dog goes 12 hours everyday when I am working and he's quite healthy. Hey you make it all night without water....:wink: I totally agree with Gas, that people tend to run to the vet a little too fast sometimes.:idk:
I didn't really think he was drinking that much water in the evenings...but so far this is working so we'll see how it turns out after a few more days.

[Trip]

Take the dog to the pound, sleep wonderful every night.

[marko138]

Take the dog to the pound, sleep wonderful every night.
Never.

[Gas Man]

Take the dog to the pound, sleep wonderful every night.
Come up to michigan and tell brinks that to his face! I DARE YOU!

[Kaneman]

Take the dog to the pound, sleep wonderful every night.

Until someone quietly breaks into your home and rapes you Pulp Fiction style before stealing everything you worked for and drinking your orange juice. You'll never sleep quietly again.

Gas Man's dog is named Brinks for a reason. :lol:

[marko138]

This method of cutting of his water seems to be at least helping. 4 consecutiv e days and the dog has not had to out in the middle of the night.

[OneSickPsycho]

This method of cutting of his water seems to be at least helping. 4 consecutiv e days and the dog has not had to out in the middle of the night.

Maybe ONSSP should stop feeding me late so I can stop pooping in the middle of the night or real early morning...

[marko138]

I hear you, broski.

[OneNotSoSickPsycho]

Maybe ONSSP should stop feeding me late so I can stop pooping in the middle of the night or real early morning...

Or maybe you should stop eating corndogs at night before I get home from work instead of eating real dinner... :lol:

[Gas Man]

Until someone quietly breaks into your home and rapes you Pulp Fiction style before stealing everything you worked for and drinking your orange juice. You'll never sleep quietly again.

Gas Man's dog is named Brinks for a reason. :lol:
This is true.

[Rider]

MY dog got me up at 2am this morning to take a shit. I hope this isn't the start of a new habit, but at least he woke me up. I rather get up in the middle of the night than to step in a pile of dog shit as I make my way to the kitchen for breakfast.

[Cutty72]

Until someone quietly breaks into your home and rapes you Pulp Fiction style before stealing everything you worked for and drinking your orange juice. You'll never sleep quietly again.

Gas Man's dog is named Brinks for a reason. :lol:

Yeah, remember Marko's dog is a lab. The downfall of labs is they will escort anyone to the door, the valuables, the money, and then their treats! :lol:

[marko138]

Yeah, remember Marko's dog is a lab. The downfall of labs is they will escort anyone to the door, the valuables, the money, and then their treats! :lol:
Right, if someone shows up to rob me and they happen to bring dog treats Manny is helping them carry shit out.