serves the punk right!

[RACER X]

Go to the link, great video embedded. Story quoted below.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/vfw-hall-flag-burner-caught-duct-taped.html


A 21 year-old Valley Falls man was duct-taped to a flagpole for 6 hours after he burned the US flag at a VFW hall.

The man sat duct-taped as the town held its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.
The Times Union reported:

The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.

"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

Normile said the flag had at one point flown over U.S. troops in Iraq had special significance.

Veterans, both local and nationwide, responded to the event as accountings were posted online to the official VFW Facebook page and national Web site. Comments posted supported the act and added ideas for further punishment

[Rider]

While I like the duct tape to a flagpole idea, I would have opted at that point to beat him with a stick like a fucking pinata for 6 hours while hanging from the rope of the flag pole.

[pauldun170]

Go to the link, great video embedded. Story quoted below.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/vfw-hall-flag-burner-caught-duct-taped.html


A 21 year-old Valley Falls man was duct-taped to a flagpole for 6 hours after he burned the US flag at a VFW hall.

The man sat duct-taped as the town held its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.
The Times Union reported:

The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.

"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

Normile said the flag had at one point flown over U.S. troops in Iraq had special significance.

Veterans, both local and nationwide, responded to the event as accountings were posted online to the official VFW Facebook page and national Web site. Comments posted supported the act and added ideas for further punishment

They DID give him valid options.

[Tmall]

:pat:

That's awesome!

[CasterTroy]

The irony is that burning the flag is not illegal. Those veterans fought for that right (doh)

However, Burning someone ELSES flag is :lol:

[Rider]

Actually burning the flag is also the correct way to retire an old flag.

My son who is a boy scout has taken part in this ceremony before.

http://www.macscouter.com/usscouts/ceremony/flagret1.asp

[Dragonpaco]

yeah but you dont do it with a cigarette lighter and you don't get to decide it's retired because they wouldn't let you drink

[BobTheBiker]

Actually burning the flag is also the correct way to retire an old flag.

My son who is a boy scout has taken part in this ceremony before.

http://www.macscouter.com/usscouts/ceremony/flagret1.asp

There is also a correct procedure to do this by too.

I like the punishments these veterans offered as his options. Personally, I would have given him different options. fight a veteran hand to hand THEN spend 6 hours taped to the flagpole, get his ass kicked then handed over to police, or get his ass kicked, then tied to the flagpole, THEN turned over to police.

[Adeptus_Minor]

The guy was a douchebag and I think the punishment was fitting.
It's kind of like a modern day version of spending time in the stocks.

[Trip]

surprised he isn't suing them for holding him hostage or some shit like that....

I think the hand to hand combat was just a bluff, that is just asking for trouble. He should of took the police, they would of given him a slap on the wrist and it would of been over.

[Smittie61984]

I think the hand to hand combat was just a bluff, that is just asking for trouble. He should of took the police, they would of given him a slap on the wrist and it would of been over.

Probably could have gotten a ACLU lawyer too.

[Ducati Diva]

Should have made him do it in his underware!!!:lol:

[JARVIS518]

hahaha this is right up here, thats where my dad grew up and most of my family lives, i live 15 minutes away

[Adeptus_Minor]

surprised he isn't suing them for holding him hostage or some shit like that....

I think the hand to hand combat was just a bluff, that is just asking for trouble. He should of took the police, they would of given him a slap on the wrist and it would of been over.

What he SHOULD have done was not acted like a douchebag in the first place.
Maybe accepting the public humiliation was his way of owning up. (somehow I'm thinking....NOT...but one can always hope)

[z06boy]

The irony is that burning the flag is not illegal. Those veterans fought for that right (doh)

However, Burning someone ELSES flag is :lol:

Correct

[Homeslice]

Sounds like he took the easy way out........Youth soccer parade? It's not like the whole town is going to show up for something like that.

[JARVIS518]

u'd be surprised its a a really small town

[OneSickPsycho]

I like it. I think public humiliation is WAY more of a deterrent than anything. Hell, these days a lot of kids... fuck and adults... think it's cool to get into trouble. Fines, incarceration, etc... no big deal. Sitting in front of the whole town looking like a total fucktard... The guy's right, he won't be burning any more flags anytime soon.

[Adeptus_Minor]

I like it. I think public humiliation is WAY more of a deterrent than anything. Hell, these days a lot of kids... fuck and adults... think it's cool to get into trouble. Fines, incarceration, etc... no big deal. Sitting in front of the whole town looking like a total fucktard... The guy's right, he won't be burning any more flags anytime soon.

That's what I'm talking about.
You'd still have your chance in court. But (if convicted) rather than tying up public funds keeping people in prison for months or years, you spend a few hours for one or more days in the stocks where everyone can see you and a banner naming your crime.
The true sociopaths are still going to be convinced they were justified in whatever they did, but for casual offender, it's going to be more than enough embarrassment and inconvenience to motivate them to avoid such things in the future.