Bike Locks - Security

[i2iSTUDIOS]

I need some experienced folks to chime in.

To secure a bike, disc brake locks with an alarm and a heavy chain? I live in a pretty nice place but my storage locker was broken into and my 10 speed trek was stolen so getting my CBR stolen would suck too.

Any recommended things i can look at?

[Trip]

insurance, lots of it. disc locks are pretty useless cause they will just pick it up and throw it in the truck/van. Steering lock works just as good as disc locks in my opinion. Don't know too much about chains. An alarm would be great.

Getting a spot messenger would be another option and hide it somewhere on your bike that won't be easy to spot. You can know the GPS location of your bike at all times.

[marko138]

Insure that bad boy, fo shizzle.

[Hydrant]

I think a chain would be the way to go. Also, I thought there was a motorcycle specific company that sold what looked like an eyebolt that you put in concrete so you can run your cable through the eyebolt, and then though your bike. At least that way they just couldn't pick it up, or roll it.

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/products/list.aspx?cid=1000&scid=1001

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/List.aspx?cid=1003 That looks like the what I was talking about at the bottom, you would jsut have to drill for anchors.

There are some examples of whats out there. Kryptonite is one that I've seen around


Edited after BTB schooled me on chains.

[BobTheBiker]

I would think that if you have to go the chain route, a heavy cable might be a better choice. Cable is harder to cut than chain. Also, I thought there was a motorcycle specific company that sold what looked like an eyebolt that you put in concrete so you can run your cable through the eyebolt, and then though your bike. At least that way they just couldn't pick it up, or roll it.
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Wrong. cable is EASIER than chain to cut. a purpose built kryptonite chain secured to an eyelet in something like a parking stop and run through your swingarm at the shock mount area, or better yet, your frame is best.

chaining to your wheels means that if the thieves have tools, you'll come out to a wheel or two just laying ther and the rest of the bike GONE.

your BEST bet is FULL COVERAGE insurance, and a good alarm. Phantom makes an alarm that works like lojack, but is more precise if I remember right.

[Homeslice]

There are better chains than Kryptonite. Those can be cut with a good bolt cutter if the theif has enough patience.

I have a chain from OnGuard with links that are 14mm cross-section.......which I think is thicker than any Kryptonite. I dont think anything is breaking this unless it's a plasma torch. And there's some other chains made in the UK with even thicker links (16-18mm) and they claim that even a plasma torch can't cut it. You can get those off the UK Ebay site. Expensive though.

[Hydrant]

Wrong. cable is EASIER than chain to cut. a purpose built kryptonite chain secured to an eyelet in something like a parking stop and run through your swingarm at the shock mount area, or better yet, your frame is best.



Learned something there, I was always under the assumption that a chain with some heavy bolt cutters would be able to get through a chain. Whereas with cable, if you took bolt cutters it would just crush the cable, unless you had specific cable cutters. I'm just talking a average hack thief, if you go with someone running around with some professional tools, then you better hope its insured.

Edit - After reading up on some of the chains, I guess in the eight years of riding, I never really looked into chains all that much - DAMN that is some hard shit.

[MissHell]

Didn't read all the replies, may be repeats...

If possible, chain bike to something solid. If not, you can make a cement block yourself. Which is what I did after my bike was stolen. You need a bucket, U-bar, cement. Mix the cement in the bucket and set the U-bar in it.

Buy a bike cover, alot of thieves are just stupid. If they don't see what is under the cover - they will go for the easy access one. I believe it helps if they can't see your bike easily.

I say no to alarms and disc locks. I had an alarm and all it did was drain my battery. I eventually disconnected it.

Yes to full coverage insurance. :yes:

[OTB]

Last year my wife's business had a 55' trailer stolen: theives backed a semi up, smashed the hitch lock (it was in pieces on the ground) and drove that bugger away. If pro thieves target your stuff, it's gone.



The more locks and crap you put on a bike, the more likely amatuer thieves will trash it. I now put GPS on my stuff.

http://www.bikebone.com/page/BBSC/PROD/GPS-Tracking/iFind1000

[marko138]

Last year my wife's business had a 55' trailer stolen: theives backed a semi up, smashed the hitch lock (it was in pieces on the ground) and drove that bugger away. If pro thieves target your stuff, it's gone.



The more locks and crap you put on a bike, the more likely amatuer thieves will trash it. I now put GPS on my stuff.

http://www.bikebone.com/page/BBSC/PROD/GPS-Tracking/iFind1000
You know what they say, "Locks only keep honest people honest".

[Hydrant]

Last year my wife's business had a 55' trailer stolen: theives backed a semi up, smashed the hitch lock (it was in pieces on the ground) and drove that bugger away. If pro thieves target your stuff, it's gone.



The more locks and crap you put on a bike, the more likely amatuer thieves will trash it. I now put GPS on my stuff.

http://www.bikebone.com/page/BBSC/PROD/GPS-Tracking/iFind1000



All you can do is just be as preventative as possible, cover the bike, put a CHAIN on it, and a GPS tracking and that should keep ya safe. If someone wants it, then they'll get it. Watch as you drive it in your lot or storage area, see that no one is scoping out your bike, don't be flashy or loud as you get into your complex, not bringing attention to it might help too.

Being in construction, I've seen quite a bit of weird stuff stolen overnight and wondered how they got away without ever being noticed. You'd think someone would notice a oversize load trailer with a 50,000 lb Caterpillar trackhoe leaving a construction site at 3am, but they got away. Skidloaders (aka Bobcats) and welders are the two most common objects stolen from construction sites. Myself being in plumbing and HVAC we had $20,000 worth of copper pipe and fittings stolen overnight from job we were doing in a pretty populated area. 4"and 6" copper pipe and fittings, thrown into the parking lot out of the 4th floor of a building into the parking lot. They got away that night, but were caught at the scrap yard, only because we had called ahead of time.

[i2iSTUDIOS]

Any recommendations for the chain? I need a good long distance since the concrete piller I park behind is 2.5' in diameter so maybe 8-10' of chain. Is Kryponite considered a chain or are they just crap?

[z06boy]

My bikes are locked in a garage BUT when out on the road and not having access to a garage this is what I do.

Full coverage insurance plus 2 disc locks and a cable. I lock both bikes together through the frame so at least they may have to pick up both bikes at the same time unless they are equipped to defeat the locks/cable. :idk:

I try to always get a room that I can see the bikes and I check on them as much as I can.

That's pretty much all I do...so far...so good.

From this place...

http://www.trimaxlocks.com/index.asp

Here is the disclocks I use and the cable I use...seems to be pretty decent stuff.

http://www.trimaxlocks.com/zoom_img/MAX60_1182310327.jpg


The MAX60 is a short shackle motorcycle disc cable U-lock. TRIMAX cable U-locks are simply the strongest short shackle locks you can buy.

The MAX60 is ideal when combined with a TRIMAX cable or chain for securing motorcycles, bicycles, spare tires, ATVs, marine, trailers and much, much more.


Features one key equipped with a mini flashlight
Durable PVC sleeve covers chrome steel shackle to prevent marring and scratching
Hardened solid steel lock prevents prying, sawing and hammer impacts
Tough polymer outer skin absorbs hammer strikes and reduces marring and scratching
Ideal for bicycles, motorcycles, spare tires, trailers, marine and more
Type B key, which is an ultra secure wise wafer key. Lock core design provides the highest degree of protection against picking. Includes 3 keys. One key is equipped with a mini flash light.

Specifications:
LIFETIME WARRANTY
1/2 inch hardened chrome plated solid steel shackle


http://www.trimaxlocks.com/zoom_img/TG3072SX_1199272305.jpg

The TG3072SX is a SUPERMAX security armor plated stainless steel locking cable (6 feet long x 26mm diameter) for maximum protection and security.

The TG3072SX is ideal for securing motorcycles, bicycles, spare tires, ATVs, marine, trailers and much, much more.


Monster 26 mm stainless steel locking cable
Maximum security armor plated cable lock
Durable PVC skin prevents scratching
Ballistic grade polymer lock housing cover resists hammer strikes and protects lock mechanism
Patented key cover resists grime and moisture
Flexible for easy transport
Ideal for bicycles, motorcycles, spare tires, trailers, marine and more
Type B key, which is an ultra secure wise wafer key

Specifications:
LIFETIME WARRANTY
6 feet long x 26mm diameter
Heavy duty
Commercial grade
Stainless steel

[Homeslice]

and its like that