View Full Version : Will California become America's first failed state?
RACER X
10-06-2009, 02:11 PM
since alot of peeps were telling somebody here that CA was the place to be.......
how do you CA peeps feel about the state of affairs there?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/04/california-failing-state-debt
Will California become America's first failed state?
karl_1052
10-06-2009, 02:34 PM
Hasn't it already?
Rider
10-06-2009, 02:54 PM
You think Michigan is in better shape than CA?
Pretty much every liberal state is running into financial issues right now, it's not limited to the left coast.
Yep we have the highest unemployment in the nation by a large margin.
pauldun170
10-06-2009, 03:00 PM
America already has plenty failed states for sometime now.
seDUCtive
10-06-2009, 03:07 PM
This was taken this summer
Rider
10-06-2009, 03:09 PM
Here is the unemployment rate broken down by state rank.
Boy you'd think Nevada could use up that 13% in hookers.
http://www.bls.gov/web/laumstrk.htm
RACER X
10-06-2009, 03:11 PM
This was taken this summer
wow beautiful firestation.
Rider
10-06-2009, 03:14 PM
wow beautiful firestation.
I just noticed in your sig, you are using Soupy's links. I know that guy. I've been on a few rides with him. Cool dude and he rides a sweet turbo Busa.
RACER X
10-06-2009, 03:16 PM
cool, bike was bought this way, it's way tall for my 29" inseam....lol
Rider
10-06-2009, 03:18 PM
cool, bike was bought this way, it's way tall for my 29" inseam....lol
You can buy his lowering links.
RACER X
10-06-2009, 03:20 PM
OE would prolly work best.
karl_1052
10-06-2009, 03:25 PM
cool, bike was bought this way, it's way tall for my 29" inseam....lol
Send me the links then!
RACER X
10-06-2009, 03:39 PM
i like the way the bike handles w/ them.........lol
i don't stop much in my 10 mi commute.....lol
101lifts2
10-06-2009, 03:57 PM
This is my take....Liberals.... you made your bed, now sleep the fuck in it.
You have given to the clueless for far too fucking long instead of giving to the hopeless. You cater to illegals, but punish the buisnessess with God awful amount of taxes who are your bread and butter. How long did you really expect this to last? Do you realize you cannot give 80% pay to teachers, police and firefighters for retirement? It just doesn't work.
You have given so much money to the poor via food stamps, unemployment and medical care that now they think they deserve it. Fuck u liberals you fucked it all up. But don't blame Arnold. He voted conservatively for what he could, but what the hell can one do when the entire CA legislation is so far left that they think money grows on trees?
I pray to God that the people of this state wise up and vote in a majority Republican/Libertarian legislation. But...since half these minorities depend on entitlements, I doubt the sheep will change and the state will continue to fall.
How long u been on unemployment, 3 years? And now it's gone? Tuff shit. Consider the extra 2 years you shouldn't of got a gift. Have 6 kids, been livin' on the county with a 300 buck per kid stipen and now it's not there? Again, tuff shit. Consider the money you shouldn't have got in the first place a gift.
Homeslice
10-06-2009, 05:08 PM
How long did you really expect this to last? Do you realize you cannot give 80% pay to teachers, police and firefighters for retirement? It just doesn't work.
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This isn't just a liberal issue. I doubt you'll find too many conservatives who would dare suggest that police, firefighter, or military pensions be reduced. After all, conservatives have a reputation to protect (being "more patriotic" than liberals).
RACER X
10-06-2009, 05:19 PM
This isn't just a liberal issue. I doubt you'll find too many conservatives who would dare suggest that police, firefighter, or military pensions be reduced. After all, conservatives have a reputation to protect (being "more patriotic" than liberals).
is that all you have to say about the state of affairs of your beloved state........:lol
Homeslice
10-06-2009, 06:41 PM
People are free to leave if they don't like how their state gov't is spending their money, right? Yet people still stay here and come here, hmm wonder why. Maybe because this place offers a good lifestyle and the largest number of things to do in your spare time. Gotta pay to play.
101lifts2
10-06-2009, 08:51 PM
This isn't just a liberal issue. I doubt you'll find too many conservatives who would dare suggest that police, firefighter, or military pensions be reduced. After all, conservatives have a reputation to protect (being "more patriotic" than liberals).
Then they are by definition not conservative.
tached1000rr
10-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Yep we have the highest unemployment in the nation by a large margin.
28% last I heard
101lifts2
10-06-2009, 08:54 PM
People are free to leave if they don't like how their state gov't is spending their money, right? Yet people still stay here and come here, hmm wonder why. Maybe because this place offers a good lifestyle and the largest number of things to do in your spare time. Gotta pay to play.
That is the point Hans. Buisnesses are leaving in droves and half the state is dependant upon the government. The "pay to play" is total horseshit. If I'm paying, the government in CA better be making the best use of my money. How well the state is cleaned or number of things to do in your spare time has little to do with the deficeit crisis we are in now.
Rider
10-07-2009, 09:41 AM
28% last I heard
That might be IN the city of Detroit but the state as a whole is 15.2%
Smittie61984
10-08-2009, 09:03 PM
wow beautiful firestation.
And probably why they are broke.
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