prisoners before people............swine flu

[RACER X]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/21447500/detail.html

Prisoners May Get Swine Flu Vaccines

45,000 Convicts Targeted To Receive Vaccine

POSTED: Wednesday, October 28, 2009

AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas prison officials said Tuesday that thousands of high-risk convicts may be vaccinated against the swine flu ahead of the general public as soon as next week.

Michelle Lyons, Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokeswoman, said more than 45,000 convicts have been targeted to receive the vaccine.

"We have a number of the high-risk groups in prisons -- pregnant women, people with immune deficiencies, with other serious health issues," Lyons said. "In some respects, we're like a nursing home or a college dorm. If the flu were to get started in this environment, it could spread quickly."

The vaccine also will go to more than 40,000 correctional officers and medical personnel who work with the prisoners.

The decision on who gets the vaccine is set by a distribution policy established by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Lyons and officials with the state Department of Health Services said. Under that policy, the initial target groups to receive the shots when the vaccine is first available include pregnant women, health care providers, emergency services personnel and people with medical conditions that put them at highest risk should they get the flu.

"We have been told that we will start receiving doses by around the first of November in lots of 25,000," Lyons said.

She said the prison system has asked for more than 158,000 doses of swine flu vaccine to inoculate all convicts in state prisons and state-contracted private prisons.

If that holds true, prisoners in some parts of Texas could get their shots before members of the general public who might need them.

Carrie Williams, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Health Services, said the CDC allocates additional doses each week, and state officials then decide who gets them depending on the priority factors.

[wildchild]

why not, they have better housing and food then many people out in society why should they not get preferential treatment for vaccines as well?

someday maybe they'll be treated like criminals but probably not in this lifetime.

[Avatard]

People confined in a small space can become a breeding ground for the virus.

This is not about giving prisoners anything privileged, it's about containing a pandemic.

Man, you guys are a fucking trip.

[tommymac]

People confined in a small space can become a breeding ground for the virus.

This is not about giving prisoners anything privileged, it's about containing a pandemic.

Man, you guys are a fucking trip.

Prisons, military barracks and college dorms are the worst places for a disease to take hold. TB is the bigger concern in the prisons with all the drug users and people in generally poor health.

Tom

[Kaneman]

Do you guys realize how much it would cost the taxpayers if the state allowed massive outbreaks of the swine flu inside prisons?

Oh, wait, I know....just let 'em all die right? They shouldn't have fucked up if they didn't want to be there.

[Avatard]

Do you guys realize how much it would cost the taxpayers if the state allowed massive outbreaks of the swine flu inside prisons?

Small minds thinking shortsightedly FTMFL.

[tommymac]

Do you guys realize how much it would cost the taxpayers if the state allowed massive outbreaks of the swine flu inside prisons?

Oh, wait, I know....just let 'em all die right? They shouldn't have fucked up if they didn't want to be there.

The problem there is with the staff being exposed and the visitors comming in and out carrying the disease back to their communities.

As far as all the people in prison dying I wouldnt loose much sleep over that anyway, but an outbreak like that could have serious implications.

Tom

[fasternyou929]

Small minds thinking shortsightedly FTMFL.

What more could be expected from someone that titles a thread "prisoners before people"?

[Kaneman]

As far as all the people in prison dying I wouldnt loose much sleep over that anyway, but an outbreak like that could have serious implications.

Tom

The way a society treats its lowest members says all you need to know about them. Aside from that, I'd say that anyone who shares that viewpoint doesn't know anyone who got a bullshit rap.

[wildchild]

yeah wouldn't want to just not allow visitation for a while. I mean c'mon billy boy has to get his mack on now and then right? can't keep him from that.

[Kaneman]

yeah wouldn't want to just not allow visitation for a while. I mean c'mon billy boy has to get his mack on now and then right? can't keep him from that.

Or the state could do the humane thing and give them the vaccine. It is absurd to suggest otherwise, and even prisoners have some rights left. We can't be blind to the fact that our current legal system (the laws and the court) is extremely flawed for one, and for two that not all inmates are inherently bad or evil people. Do some deserve to be tortured and killed slowly in front of a crowd? Well of course they do, but that's not how we, as a civilized society, represent ourselves. Again, the way a society treats its lowest and worst members shows you the true nature of that society. Saudi Arabia for example.

Conjugal visits are fairly rare nationwide and are nonexistant in Texas.

[Tmall]

Or the state could do the humane thing and give them the vaccine. It is absurd to suggest otherwise, and even prisoners have some rights left. We can't be blind to the fact that our current legal system (the laws and the court) is extremely flawed for one, and for two that not all inmates are inherently bad or evil people. Do some deserve to be tortured and killed slowly in front of a crowd? Well of course they do, but that's not how we, as a civilized society, represent ourselves. Again, the way a society treats its lowest and worst members shows you the true nature of that society. Saudi Arabia for example.

Conjugal visits are fairly rare nationwide and are nonexistant in Texas.


The beauty of these threads is that it allows you to quickly see who's opinion you can take seriously. Don't you agree?

[Avatard]

Yes, it shows who actually thinks things through.

[Kaneman]

The beauty of these threads is that it allows you to quickly see who's opinion you can take seriously. Don't you agree?

Its still not as bad as having to read MV's bullshit over and over and over again, lol.

[RACER X]

The beauty of these threads is that it allows you to quickly see who's opinion you can take seriously. Don't you agree?

you take peoples opinons on the i-net seriously.........:lol

btw, yeah i say fuk em.

[Avatard]

Really? We're shocked.

[RACER X]

http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Charles/gomer-pyle-surprise.jpg

[Kaneman]

you take peoples opinons on the i-net seriously.........:lol

btw, yeah i say fuk em.

I do, I know many of these people in person. But more than that I find that an internet forum allows a person's TRUE personality to come out...for better or worse. Do people assume false identities on the internet? Certainly they do, but I believe a much high percentage allow their true colors to show through.

And with your second sentence you prove my point.

[Avatard]

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[wildchild]

Or the state could do the humane thing and give them the vaccine. It is absurd to suggest otherwise, and even prisoners have some rights left. We can't be blind to the fact that our current legal system (the laws and the court) is extremely flawed for one, and for two that not all inmates are inherently bad or evil people. Do some deserve to be tortured and killed slowly in front of a crowd? Well of course they do, but that's not how we, as a civilized society, represent ourselves. Again, the way a society treats its lowest and worst members shows you the true nature of that society. Saudi Arabia for example.

Conjugal visits are fairly rare nationwide and are nonexistant in Texas.

i have no problem with them getting the vac. AFTER the rest of the population outside the walls. if they lose a couple visits too bad. oh and that's my thought in real life as well.

[EpyonXero]

I do, I know many of these people in person. But more than that I find that an internet forum allows a person's TRUE personality to come out...for better or worse. Do people assume false identities on the internet? Certainly they do, but I believe a much high percentage allow their true colors to show through.

And with your second sentence you prove my point.


Yep.

[Rider]

Let them die of swine flu I don't give a fuck. Should have thought about that before you robbed that liquor store hommie!

[Kaneman]

So you think everyone in prison robbed a liquor store and considers friends "homies?" Tell me Rider, are you well off?

[Rider]

So you think everyone in prison robbed a liquor store and considers friends "homies?" Tell me Rider, are you well off?

Nope, just a middle class guy.

[Avatard]

Rider, do those hoods need to be dry cleaned, or can you just throw them in with your other whites?

[Kaneman]

Nope, just a middle class guy.

:lol: Riiiight.

[Rider]

:lol: Riiiight.

Hey I didn't claim to have class though.

[Rider]

Rider, do those hoods need to be dry cleaned, or can you just throw them in with your other whites?

Nothing racist about what I said. White guys talk like that.

[pauldun170]

People confined in a small space can become a breeding ground for the virus.

This is not about giving prisoners anything privileged, it's about containing a pandemic.

Man, you guys are a fucking trip.

Prisons, military barracks and college dorms are the worst places for a disease to take hold. TB is the bigger concern in the prisons with all the drug users and people in generally poor health.

Tom

Do you guys realize how much it would cost the taxpayers if the state allowed massive outbreaks of the swine flu inside prisons?

Oh, wait, I know....just let 'em all die right? They shouldn't have fucked up if they didn't want to be there.

The problem there is with the staff being exposed and the visitors comming in and out carrying the disease back to their communities.

As far as all the people in prison dying I wouldnt loose much sleep over that anyway, but an outbreak like that could have serious implications.

Tom

i have no problem with them getting the vac. AFTER the rest of the population outside the walls. if they lose a couple visits too bad. oh and that's my thought in real life as well.

It's already been touched on but it better for us on the outside if prison populations get vaccinated first.

The last thing anyone needs is for prison outbreaks to result in new untreatable strains.

They're are a lot of people working very hard around the world trying to keep prisons from becoming breeding grounds for killer strains of a bunch diseases.
It's not because they care about prisoners.

No need to have a "compassionate" attitude or be flower power love everybody type.

Treating prisoners first is all about self preservation for those outside of the prison system.

[Tmall]

It's already been touched on but it better for us on the outside if prison populations get vaccinated first.

The last thing anyone needs is for prison outbreaks to result in new untreatable strains.

They're are a lot of people working very hard around the world trying to keep prisons from becoming breeding grounds for killer strains of a bunch diseases.
It's not because they care about prisoners.

No need to have a "compassionate" attitude or be flower power love everybody type.

Treating prisoners first is all about self preservation for those outside of the prison system.

Now you're speaking their language!