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Tmall
10-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Have one on a local forum right now saying his 08 Busa, with exhaust and a downloaded map are capable of 346km/h, or 217mph.

Apparently I should believe him because he says he has a gps.. What are they thinking? Do they not realize that it's a motorcycle website? You're not talking to your neighbours 16 year old son. Most of us know the difference..

CrazyKell
10-28-2009, 11:56 AM
On the internet I don't care (although I laugh). In person I call them out and just laugh!

Tmall
10-28-2009, 12:05 PM
I hold people to the same standard online, as I do in person.


I don't like liars. It's one thing to embellish a story, it's another to be totally full of shit.

I'm just gonna argue as he digs his hole.

Dave
10-28-2009, 12:08 PM
tell him its a ninja 250 cause it can do 250

Trip
10-28-2009, 12:13 PM
I can get a knee down on a GS.

RACER X
10-28-2009, 12:14 PM
Have one on a local forum right now saying his 08 Busa, with exhaust and a downloaded map are capable of 346km/h, or 217mph.
..

he must have 1 of the slower colors...........:lol

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 12:14 PM
Can he prove it with his GPS?

I mean fuck, if my bike could do 217mph I'd have video of that fucker doing 217mph.

TYEster
10-28-2009, 12:16 PM
I take all claims about bikes and skills with a grain of salt.

And ultimately, I'll believe it when I see it.(or get someone of respectable nature to tell me it's the truth)

Rider
10-28-2009, 12:17 PM
Can he prove it with his GPS?

I mean fuck, if my bike could do 217mph I'd have video of that fucker doing 217mph.

And post that shit on youtube too probably.... :wtfru:

wildchild
10-28-2009, 12:27 PM
Can he prove it with his GPS?

I mean fuck, if my bike could do 217mph I'd have video of that fucker doing 217mph.

at that point I'd have video of the brown streak on my seat. 135 was good enough for me.

askmrjesus
10-28-2009, 12:29 PM
Assuming the bike has been "delimited" from the stock 186mph circuitry (which isn't that hard to do), properly geared, a 217 mph Busa is not outside the realm of possibility.

I rode a stock 2000 model to 190+, and it still had legs.

Most GPS's have a top speed read out page. Ask for a picture.

JC

karl_1052
10-28-2009, 12:35 PM
http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=9183

karl_1052
10-28-2009, 12:38 PM
Assuming the bike has been "delimited" from the stock 186mph circuitry (which isn't that hard to do), properly geared, a 217 mph Busa is not outside the realm of possibility.

I rode a stock 2000 model to 190+, and it still had legs.

Most GPS's have a top speed read out page. Ask for a picture.

JC

Sport rider got a first gen Busa to 202mph with a turbo kit. 217 takes alot of power.

A stock(other than pipe, PC3/5 and timing mods) should do around mid 190s, I doubt it would hit 200.

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Best one was the guy who watched me dismount my bright blue ZR-7 (with its big white Kawasaki written across its tank) and asked "is that a Harley?"

Was it leaking oil?

tommymac
10-28-2009, 01:01 PM
Assuming the bike has been "delimited" from the stock 186mph circuitry (which isn't that hard to do), properly geared, a 217 mph Busa is not outside the realm of possibility.

I rode a stock 2000 model to 190+, and it still had legs.

Most GPS's have a top speed read out page. Ask for a picture.

JC

What year were they "detuned" I recall cycle world doing an article saying that year busa could do 197 prety much stock.

Krabill
10-28-2009, 01:02 PM
Pic from a turbo busa. I don't think it's possible w/o a turbo, but it apparently is with one.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2d6qeqx.jpg

askmrjesus
10-28-2009, 01:06 PM
Sport rider got a first gen Busa to 202mph with a turbo kit. 217 takes alot of power.

Sport rider is fucking up then. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWhtVuccMI

A stock(other than pipe, PC3/5 and timing mods) should do around mid 190s, I doubt it would hit 200.

With the right gearing (17/40), and a long enough road, a stock 1st gen. Busa could theoretically hit 216.

JC

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 01:12 PM
With the right gearing (17/40), and a long enough road, a stock 1st gen. Busa could theoretically hit 216.

JC

Would it have the ass to do it? Theoretically I could pedal my bicycle with the right gearing up to the speed of light. But as of now I'm lacking the leg strength.

askmrjesus
10-28-2009, 01:15 PM
What year were they "detuned" I recall cycle world doing an article saying that year busa could do 197 prety much stock.

2001, but they were never really detuned, they had speed limiter installed. About six months later, a guy came out with a bypass for the limiter.

197 in stock trim, sounds about right.

JC

askmrjesus
10-28-2009, 01:17 PM
Would it have the ass to do it? Theoretically I could pedal my bicycle with the right gearing up to the speed of light. But as of now I'm lacking the leg strength.

I don't know, that's why I said theoretically. :lol:

JC

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 01:19 PM
I don't know, that's why I said theoretically. :lol:

JC

True.

I remember when the GSX-1300r came out a motorcycle magazine (can't remember which) did some test runs and I thought they got it to a little above 210 (but was rumored Suzuki suped up those bikes)

Particle Man
10-28-2009, 01:25 PM
I can get a knee down on a GS.

with or without dragging your helmet?

defector
10-28-2009, 01:27 PM
I *technically lie about my bike all the time. My bike is everything from 500cc to 1200cc depending on the goon I am talking to.

*I agree with whatever bike they think mine is. If they think it's a 1000, then so be it. If they think it's a 600, then so be it.

dReWpY
10-28-2009, 01:27 PM
i hate ppl that lie about their bikes, muthta fuckers should be shot

RedRider2k2
10-28-2009, 01:27 PM
What are they thinking? Do they not realize that it's a motorcycle website? You're not talking to your neighbours 16 year old son
See, there's your problem. You must have forgotten which forum you were on.:lol:

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 01:29 PM
with or without dragging your helmet?

What's wrong with both...
http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics3/scooter-drag-helmet.jpg

Particle Man
10-28-2009, 01:34 PM
with or without dragging your helmet?

What's wrong with both...
http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics3/scooter-drag-helmet.jpg

depends on if I'm the one riding or not :lol:

z06boy
10-28-2009, 01:43 PM
My Z06 will do 200...says so right on the speedo. Nevermind the fact that it would only do about 172 stock and I've now switched from 3:42 rear gears to 3:90's. :lol:

Tmall
10-28-2009, 01:45 PM
See, there's your problem. You must have forgotten which forum you were on.:lol:

The funny thing is, I actually expect from there.

New Brunswick's finest..:lol

Trip
10-28-2009, 01:47 PM
with or without dragging your helmet?

both, but if I am dragging my helmet, it's not a recoverable manuever.

Particle Man
10-28-2009, 01:48 PM
both, but if I am dragging my helmet, it's not a recoverable manuever.

that was sort of my point ;) Knee dragging on a GS must be like chopping down a freakin' redwood

Tmall
10-28-2009, 01:51 PM
that was sort of my point ;) Knee dragging on a GS must be like chopping down a freakin' redwood

Best left to manly men?

Particle Man
10-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Best left to manly men?

or RTMF

(Really Tall Mother Fuckers)

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 02:18 PM
My Z06 will do 200...says so right on the speedo. Nevermind the fact that it would only do about 172 stock and I've now switched from 3:42 rear gears to 3:90's. :lol:

I use a Chip Log to get my defenite speed.

karl_1052
10-28-2009, 02:29 PM
2001, but they were never really detuned, they had speed limiter installed. About six months later, a guy came out with a bypass for the limiter.

197 in stock trim, sounds about right.

JC

Considering the second gens have 20 more HP stock, and better aeros, it should have a higher top speed, but it will only do mid 190s without the limiter.

http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/0901_sbkp_200_mph_or_bust/index.html
http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/122_0336_maxton_200_mph_plus/index.html

The amount of horsepower required to overcome aerodynamic drag rises as the cube of speed. Consider this: 160 hp is enough to push a stock Hayabusa to nearly 190 mph, but it would take closer to 225 hp to get that same bike to 200 mph--65 more hp for just 10 more mph on top. Going 200 mph on a production-based motorcycle is a huge accomplishment--indeed, there are only 42 riders in the East Coast Timing Association's (ECTA) elite "200-mph" club.

I rode a stock 2000 model to 190+, and it still had legs.

190mph on the speedo is probably and actual mid 170s-180, depending on the gearing.

z06boy
10-28-2009, 03:15 PM
I use a Chip Log to get my defenite speed.

I had to look that up...wasn't even sure what it was. :lol:

wildchild
10-28-2009, 03:24 PM
[QUOTE=z06boy;284388]My Z06 will do 200...says so right on the speedo. QUOTE]


i have actually heard a number of guys exactly that about their cars.

tached1000rr
10-28-2009, 03:26 PM
that was sort of my point ;) Knee dragging on a GS must be like chopping down a freakin' redwood

There's a pic of Trip draggin knee on his GS at the GAP

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 03:27 PM
I had to look that up...wasn't even sure what it was. :lol:

I was curious 2 weeks ago about Nautical Miles and looked up knots and stuff like that. And then I discovered the Chip Log and have been waiting for the right opertune moment to drop my new found knowledge.

Trip
10-28-2009, 03:30 PM
There's a pic of Trip draggin knee on his GS at the GAP

It's just a joke, everyone was saying fake things and we went with something real. It's not really that hard to do it.

tached1000rr
10-28-2009, 03:35 PM
It's just a joke, everyone was saying fake things and we went with something real. It's not really that hard to do it.

opps, in that case my bike has 2 wheel drive.....

askmrjesus
10-28-2009, 03:39 PM
Considering the second gens have 20 more HP stock, and better aeros, it should have a higher top speed, but it will only do mid 190s without the limiter.

In stock trim, yes.

Brock's got a 2008 up to 202.5 MPH with mapping and exhaust, in stock gearing.

http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=3529&z=9

So, while it seems unlikely that some unknown dude on a motorcycle forum actually got his to 217, I'm still not ready to concede that it's not possible. 30 miles of open road, geared to the moon, with a 120lb. rider? Who knows?



190mph on the speedo is probably and actual mid 170s-180, depending on the gearing.

You're such a fucking buzz-kill. :lol:

But you're right. I have no idea what my actual speed was. All I know is, I saw an antelope about a half mile ahead, and I hit the fucking binders like my life depended on it. When I looked down, I was still doing 185 (indicated) and I have to figure I was going at least 5 mph faster than that when I hit the brakes, so my story is 190+, and I'm sticking to it. :lol:

JC

Particle Man
10-28-2009, 03:57 PM
You're such a fucking buzz-kill. :lol:

But you're right. I have no idea what my actual speed was. All I know is, I saw an antelope about a half mile ahead, and I hit the fucking binders like my life depended on it. When I looked down, I was still doing 185 (indicated) and I have to figure I was going at least 5 mph faster than that when I hit the brakes, so my story is 190+, and I'm sticking to it. :lol:

JC

Suzuki speedometers tend to be a tad but, um, optimistic :lol

pdog
10-28-2009, 04:05 PM
People lie all the time about bikes. Here's a guy selling his "R6" for a suspiciously low price. Because it's not an R6, it's an R6S:

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1441557114.html

There was another dealer(!) selling an 2007 SV650S "like new" (ad was deleted this morning), that suspiciously had no clutch lever and a broken turn signal. Must have come that way from the factory.

Smittie61984
10-28-2009, 04:16 PM
People lie all the time about bikes. Here's a guy selling his "R6" for a suspiciously low price. Because it's not an R6, it's an R6S:


"Can't trust nobody"

z06boy
10-28-2009, 04:47 PM
I was curious 2 weeks ago about Nautical Miles and looked up knots and stuff like that. And then I discovered the Chip Log and have been waiting for the right opertune moment to drop my new found knowledge.

:lol: I'm a boat owner and still didn't know what it was. Of course my small boat has a speedo plus I don't take it out in the ocean anyways.

I did compare the boats speedo to a GPS and yep...it was off...thought I was running 65 and it was more like 61 which still isn't bad...just not as good as I thought. :lol:

Homeslice
10-28-2009, 07:37 PM
People lie all the time about bikes. Here's a guy selling his "R6" for a suspiciously low price. Because it's not an R6, it's an R6S:

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1441557114.html


But it's not like somebody's not going to know after seeing the picture.

The R6S is a superior bike for street riding anyway.

karl_1052
10-28-2009, 07:46 PM
You're such a fucking buzz-kill. :lol:

But you're right. I have no idea what my actual speed was. All I know is, I saw an antelope about a half mile ahead, and I hit the fucking binders like my life depended on it. When I looked down, I was still doing 185 (indicated) and I have to figure I was going at least 5 mph faster than that when I hit the brakes, so my story is 190+, and I'm sticking to it. :lol:

JC

I have never looked at my speedo once the tach passes 5000.

t-homo
10-28-2009, 07:49 PM
There is a local guy with an 07 gixxer 1000 that only a few people know what is actually done to it. That is because he drag races on the street for money all of the time though.

goof2
10-28-2009, 08:31 PM
:lol: I'm a boat owner and still didn't know what it was. Of course my small boat has a speedo plus I don't take it out in the ocean anyways.

I did compare the boats speedo to a GPS and yep...it was off...thought I was running 65 and it was more like 61 which still isn't bad...just not as good as I thought. :lol:

As a boat owner you should know by now that many of your fellow boat owners use boat specific terms in order to give the impression they know what they are doing. Knot is one, but other common examples are port, starboard, galley, and head (different from boat-head). If your boat has one of the pitot tube fed spedos they are pretty useless. Depending on the boat and your desire to know they make spedos that connect to a GPS antenna and give you a true speed.

MILK
10-30-2009, 11:57 AM
Have one on a local forum right now saying his 08 Busa, with exhaust and a downloaded map are capable of 346km/h, or 217mph.

Apparently I should believe him because he says he has a gps.. .


I have a GPS running program. A few weeks ago it couldn't get a good signal and according to the GPS I was running at 177 MPH. So if we are going by GPS I could potentially outrun that bike! :lmao:

Homeslice
10-30-2009, 12:00 PM
What about people who claim they used to own a bike after they see you walking in the store with your helmet. "Yeah I used to own a 1000 but had to sell it because I would have killed myself"

z06boy
10-30-2009, 12:09 PM
As a boat owner you should know by now that many of your fellow boat owners use boat specific terms in order to give the impression they know what they are doing. Knot is one, but other common examples are port, starboard, galley, and head (different from boat-head). If your boat has one of the pitot tube fed spedos they are pretty useless. Depending on the boat and your desire to know they make spedos that connect to a GPS antenna and give you a true speed.

Yep I know all of those terms but don't usually if ever use them. You're right about some of the other boat owners...some here try to make it sound like they are out in the middle of the ocean piloting a cruise ship or something. Ok Skipper you can take the Captains cap off now. :lol:

My wife took a boating course this past summer because I told her she was only a First Mate and NOT a Co-Captian until she took and passed a course. :lol:

Now that she's taken it she likes to say port...starboard...etc. and I usually say "just freakin' say left and right !!" :lol:

My boat is only 23' and we only boat on Lake Norman here in NC so no real use for most of that 'boat talk'. Sure it's a good sized lake with over 500 miles of shoreline but still...just a lake.

I've been boating on this lake since 1998 so I've got it under control. :lol:

Now I didn't know about the speedo's that connect to a GPS antenna but don't really need it but thanks for the info.

pauldun170
10-30-2009, 12:10 PM
What about people who claim they used to own a bike after they see you walking in the store with your helmet. "Yeah I used to own a 1000 but had to sell it because I would have killed myself"

That's my favorite.

The "Iyuzetaride"

goof2
10-30-2009, 12:52 PM
Yep I know all of those terms but don't usually if ever use them. You're right about some of the other boat owners...some here try to make it sound like they are out in the middle of the ocean piloting a cruise ship or something. Ok Skipper you can take the Captains cap off now. :lol:

My wife took a boating course this past summer because I told her she was only a First Mate and NOT a Co-Captian until she took and passed a course. :lol:

Now that she's taken it she likes to say port...starboard...etc. and I usually say "just freakin' say left and right !!" :lol:

My boat is only 23' and we only boat on Lake Norman here in NC so no real use for most of that 'boat talk'. Sure it's a good sized lake with over 500 miles of shoreline but still...just a lake.

I've been boating on this lake since 1998 so I've got it under control. :lol:

Now I didn't know about the speedo's that connect to a GPS antenna but don't really need it but thanks for the info.

Running 60+ in a 23' is pretty good. I've gone around that in a few different boats between 22' and 34' and the 22' demonstrated that size does matter.:lol:

There are a few companies that make them (Livorsi, Gaffrig, etc.), but for what you are doing I couldn't see it being worth it. I think they generally run $500+ for the gauge and antenna.

z06boy
10-30-2009, 01:04 PM
Running 60+ in a 23' is pretty good. I've gone around that in a few different boats between 22' and 34' and the 22' demonstrated that size does matter.:lol:

There are a few companies that make them (Livorsi, Gaffrig, etc.), but for what you are doing I couldn't see it being worth it. I think they generally run $500+ for the gauge and antenna.

Yeah THE VERY DAY I picked my boat up I was feeling kinda good...had the loud exhaust on...cruising down the lake with my racing graphics on the side...23' with a 2' swim platform making it actually 25' long...yep feeling quite good.

Well guess what ? They were having a Poker Run that day put on by these guys... www.pokerrunsamerica.com and all of a sudden about a dozen 35' to probably 47' Twin 1000 + cubic inch supercharged vessals came flying by in the opposite direction !! Talk about a snap back to reality !!! :rofl: :rofl: I all of a sudden felt like a slow minnow. :wtfru:

There are plenty of boats on this lake nicer than my little boat but I just didn't expect to see this the day I was picking mine up. :lol:

Oh and yes...size does matter...my 23' is a lot smoother than my 20' that I had but is still nothing compared to a friends 27' and another friends 33' toy.

When the water gets rough in the afternoons from the wind picking up and heavier boat traffic in general you can really tell.

goof2
10-30-2009, 01:23 PM
Yeah THE VERY DAY I picked my boat up I was feeling kinda good...had the loud exhaust on...cruising down the lake with my racing graphics on the side...23' with a 2' swim platform making it actually 25' long...yep feeling quite good.

Well guess what ? They were having a Poker Run that day put on by these guys... www.pokerrunsamerica.com and all of a sudden about a dozen 35' to probably 47' Twin 1000 + cubic inch supercharged vessals came flying by in the opposite direction !! Talk about a snap back to reality !!! :rofl: :rofl: I all of a sudden felt like a slow minnow. :wtfru:

There are plenty of boats on this lake nicer than my little boat but I just didn't expect to see this the day I was picking mine up. :lol:

Oh and yes...size does matter...my 23' is a lot smoother than my 20' that I had but is still nothing compared to a friends 27' and another friends 33' toy.

When the water gets rough in the afternoons from the wind picking up and heavier boat traffic in general you can really tell.

I am amazed at what people are doing with the big boats but wouldn't want one myself. The 23'-25' range is perfect in my opinion. I could buy a new 25' every year, burn it at the end of the season and I would still come out ahead compared to what the big guys spend just on maintenance. Traveling 100+ on the water has to be awesome, but if I do it its going to be on someone else's boat.

z06boy
10-30-2009, 02:53 PM
I am amazed at what people are doing with the big boats but wouldn't want one myself. The 23'-25' range is perfect in my opinion. I could buy a new 25' every year, burn it at the end of the season and I would still come out ahead compared to what the big guys spend just on maintenance. Traveling 100+ on the water has to be awesome, but if I do it its going to be on someone else's boat.

No kidding !! When gas shot up to $4.00 + a gallon I was sooooo glad I didn't have one of those monsters....not that I could afford one anyways.

I was talking to a guy in the poker run this past year and he got his boat for $200 K...USED. The guy next to him had one that cost a cool $1 million. :whatwhat:

ericr
10-30-2009, 03:07 PM
Even running GPS, especially in the mountains, you can get some crazy readings. I was riding around Lookout Mt by Chatanooga one time and got a reading of 300+ mph on my VTX (yeah, it's a fast bitch :lol: ). I was in enough of a valley that it lost the signal and when it reaqquired it gave that crazy reading!

MILK
10-30-2009, 03:57 PM
That's my favorite.

The "Iyuzetaride"

There is a man that evidently lives in his Lexus that did that to me. Three times now he's been parked by the tellers at my bank when I've gone in there at 7AM to make a deposit. He has the seats tilted back and appears to be sleeping.

Last time I was on the bike and he rolled his window down to tell me all about the 1000 he used to own... :skep: Yea ok you that lives in your car... At least he didn't rob me I guess. :lol:

Apoc
10-30-2009, 04:45 PM
There is a man that evidently lives in his Lexus that did that to me. Three times now he's been parked by the tellers at my bank when I've gone in there at 7AM to make a deposit. He has the seats tilted back and appears to be sleeping.

Last time I was on the bike and he rolled his window down to tell me all about the 1000 he used to own... :skep: Yea ok you that lives in your car... At least he didn't rob me I guess. :lol:

youd think someone with a lexus could afford a place to stay...

askmrjesus
10-30-2009, 04:47 PM
youd think someone with a lexus could afford a place to stay...

Unless the only reason it hasn't been repossessed, is that he parks at the bank at night.

(It's the last place they'd look)

JC

Cutty72
10-30-2009, 04:58 PM
both, but if I am dragging my helmet, it's not a recoverable manuever.

I could drag a knee the first time I rode your GS... I'd just have to ride really close to a wall :lol: