7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting

[HurricaneHeather]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.

The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN.

KCEN in Waco reported that the second suspect may be holed up in a building on the post.

The base was reportedly on lockdown. Two nearby school districts were also being locked down.

Fort Hood is adjacent to Killeen, and 60 miles northeast of Austin. The sprawling complex is home to at least 4,929 active duty officers and 45,414 enlisted. Civilian employees total nearly 9,000.

The base has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a 21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River, Alaska. shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death.

:(

[z06boy]

Supposedly a 3rd shooter shooting at another location on the base. :whatwhat:

[Homeslice]

50K people on that base? Damn.

[HurricaneHeather]

Supposedly a 3rd shooter shooting at another location on the base. :whatwhat:


Where did you see that?

CNN is saying that one is captured and another is cornered(both unconfirmed) and that there might be a third.

50K people on that base? Damn.

It is the Army's largest installation.

[HurricaneHeather]

My husband just said, "I have never been more glad that Carolina(Archren) is in Iraq right now." Never thought we'd say that.

[azoomm]

My husband just said, "I have never been more glad that Carolina(Archren) is in Iraq right now." Never thought we'd say that.

That was my FIRST thought when it came onto the news.

Damn.

[RACER X]

"Details of the events were sketchy, but officials said the shooting involved two men with M-16 rifles and began about 1:30 p.m. Central time at Howze Theater on the base, then moved to the sports complex, where the graduation ceremony was scheduled to begin at 2 p.m. It was not immediately clear who the ceremony was honoring. "

[z06boy]

Where did you see that?

CNN is saying that one is captured and another is cornered(both unconfirmed) and that there might be a third.



It is the Army's largest installation.


On another forum...nothing official that I saw. One guy is posting from Ft. Hood but he's not the one that made that claim...since the base is on lockdown he doesn't know anymore than the rest of us.

What a screwed up situation.

bad guys----->:shotgun:<-----good guys

[Destitute]

Since this was an MSNBC headline, I had to compare with CNN and FoxNews reactions.

FoxNews front page video: Face-Off with Radical Islam

Coincidence? Funny stuff.

[HurricaneHeather]

Since this was an MSNBC headline, I had to compare with CNN and FoxNews reactions.

FoxNews front page video: Face-Off with Radical Islam

Coincidence? Funny stuff.

Sorry that was the first thing to come up on Google when I searched earlier.

9 confirmed dead now. One shooter captured, the other still at large.

[z06boy]

Sorry that was the first thing to come up on Google when I searched earlier.

9 confirmed dead now. One shooter captured, the other still at large.

I just saw possibly 3 shooters in a FoxNews story but it wasn't confirmed...they said other stories are reporting 2. Maybe when the 2nd guy moved around people thought it must be a 3rd ? No telling but what a crazy situation for all involved.

[RACER X]

11 + 1 gunmen dead, 31 injured.

[RACER X]

A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name. The official said the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[Smittie61984]

Since this was an MSNBC headline, I had to compare with CNN and FoxNews reactions.

FoxNews front page video: Face-Off with Radical Islam

Coincidence? Funny stuff.

God Damn, are we really going to debate Fox News with this shit???

I checked out both Fox News and CNN
www.foxnews.com
www.cnn.com
and even MSNBC. They all look the same to me...
www.msnbc.com

Hopefully they find the shooters and shoot the shit out of them.

[azoomm]

A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name. The official said the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Why does what his name "sounds like" have anything to do with anything? It struck me as a retarded statement when I heard it on the news...

[Dave]

used to be stationed there. too pissed to make decent comments. cant get contact with any of my guys from that time

[HurricaneHeather]

used to be stationed there. too pissed to make decent comments. cant get contact with any of my guys from that time

:(

I'm hoping for the best for ya.

Like I said earlier, I have never been glad Carolina is in Iraq until today.

[derf]

used to be stationed there. too pissed to make decent comments. cant get contact with any of my guys from that time

Check you PM

[Homeslice]

Why does what his name "sounds like" have anything to do with anything? It struck me as a retarded statement when I heard it on the news...
Because it gets more attention.

[RACER X]

eerily similar looking

http://andersonpooper.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/full-metal-jacket.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/091105-hassan.standard.jpg

[Dave]

i dunno x. He kinda looks like avatard's avatar

[Smittie61984]

Because it gets more attention.

Because it's true.

[Homeslice]

Because it's true.

If the shooter had a Greek or Swedish name, that would have been a true fact as well, but would the press have bothered to mention it? Not likely.

[Smittie61984]

If the shooter had a Greek or Swedish name, that would have been a true fact as well, but would the press have bothered to mention it? Not likely.

The Greeks and Sweeds aren't our problem. Muslims are so when they do some fucked up shit it should be mentioned. The day the Greeks are crashing planes into Our buildings and blowing up US Military boats then I'll be asking for extra special friskings of Chatzi, Halkias, and Manolas.

[Kaneman]

If the shooter had a Greek or Swedish name, that would have been a true fact as well, but would the press have bothered to mention it? Not likely.

Really Homeslice? Really? How many times in the past 50 years have we been at war with Greece or Sweeden?

[Homeslice]

Really Homeslice? Really? How many times in the past 50 years have we been at war with Greece or Sweeden?

I guess I missed where the US declared war on Muslims.

Turns out that his being Muslim probably did play a role at Ft Hood, but that's not true all the time. Not every Muslim who commits a crime does so because of being a Muslim.

[Smittie61984]

I guess I missed where the US declared war on Muslims.

You probably missed where Muslims have declared war on the US too.

[Homeslice]

You probably missed where Muslims have declared war on the US too.
Really? So a group that comprises 1 in 5 people on Earth has declared war on the US? Really?

[Dave]

If the shooter had a Greek or Swedish name, that would have been a true fact as well, but would the press have bothered to mention it? Not likely.

if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it aint to far of a stretch to think it works for aflac. Swans and geese dont do ads and therefore arent associated.

[Kaneman]

I guess I missed where the US declared war on Muslims.

Turns out that his being Muslim probably did play a role at Ft Hood, but that's not true all the time. Not every Muslim who commits a crime does so because of being a Muslim.

My point was is that his name is relevant because we're at war with a particular group of people that share similar type names and can not be compared with Greek or Swiss or Polish or French or Scandinavian names. Its not a difficult concept.

And as you already pointed out, early stories indicate that his being a Muslim probably played a role therefore making it even more relevant.

Its like pretending the 9/11 hijackers weren't muslims. No, we're not at war with all of them, just the ones that would murder civilians or military personnel.

[Smittie61984]

Really? So a group that comprises 1 in 5 people on Earth has declared war on the US? Really?

Yet when a white male shoots up a Unitarian church in Tennessee it was reported as a white conservative male.

[RACER X]

"Originally written by WM Bill Herridge of Gatesville Lodge No 197, Gatesville TX

Brethren:
I was at Fort Hood yesterday afternoon and got caught up in the events surrounding the shooting. I was in the Howze Theater to play my bagpipes as a processional to bring in the soldiers who were receiving their college diplomas from area colleges and universities. They have one big ceremony each November for all the soldiers who have completed their degree requirements. I play for them every year.
At about 1:30, I was sitting on the front row of the theater on the far left side. A side entrance to the theater was located directly to my left about three feet away. I heard three or four muffled “pops” and thought it sounded a little odd. Suddenly, the door near me flew open and a man fell into the theater with a gunshot wound in his back. I started for the man to see what was wrong but two NCO’s jumped up and grabbed the man and laid him on the edge of the stage. One of them shouted “Are there any medical personnel in the building?” Two of the graduates ran to the stage, threw off their caps and gowns and began treating the man as best they could. They announced that his wound was not life threatening. As the man was being loaded onto a stretcher, five or six heavily armed civilian security personnel entered the back of the auditorium with their rifles and pistols pointing upwards. One of them shouted that everyone should take a seat immediately, and believe me, that happened very quickly.
They asked that all senior NCO’s in the building proceed to one of the eight entry doors in the building, and again, that was done immediately. Once the security guys ascertained that the wounded man being removed from the stage would survive, they walked across the front of the stage and slowly opened a door on the opposite side of the auditorium—one which opened out onto a parking lot that separated the Howze Theater from the Soldiers Dome where the rest of the shooting occurred. We could hear rapid gunfire coming across the parking lot. One of the security guys again shouted a request for any doctors and nurses in attendance, and about 15 people immediately moved to the door where the security guys were standing. I heard one of the security folks tell the assembled medical personnel that there were many wounded people in the adjacent building, and that they were needed to help out. The medical people were told to follow the security guys, keep low, and move quickly without stopping. There was no hesitation on their part, they just moved out to do their jobs.
There were three officers in the building, and to their credit they just got out of the way and let the NCO’s handle the situation. I was extremely proud of the professionalism that everyone displayed. The only people complaining were the civilians who were there for the graduation ceremony, and soldiers continually moved among them to calm them down.
One interesting thing about all this—about an hour after the shooting died down, the loud speakers all over the base started playing the old Cavalry bugle call called “Recall.” I have never heard that on an active duty base before, but apparently the soldiers knew what it meant, that they were to drop what they were doing and return to their units.
At about 7 p.m. they brought several cases of MRE’s (combat meals) and starting handing them out. I figured we would be there all night when that happened. However, about 30 minutes later, we were allowed to depart in small numbers. I had to pass through four check points before I reached FM116, and even after driving off the post, I had to negotiate two Texas DPS road blocks before being allowed to drive at highway speed to return home.
I hope you will all keep the families of the slain soldiers in your prayers. I know that the Good Lord was looking after me—that shooter could just as easily have followed the wounded man into the theater, where he would have “enjoyed” many more victims. Anyway, that is a brief eyewitness report of what happened at Fort Hood yesterday afternoon.
Bill Herridge, W.M.
Gatesville Lodge #197 "

[RACER X]

Nidal Malik Hasan has been linked w/ the Mosque where 2 of the 9/11 hijackers attended at the same time.

[Homeslice]

A little strange that civilian police were the ones to take him out.

[CasterTroy]

I'm a little shocked he did SO much damager with just one fn herstal 5.7 pistol. He HAD a .357 revolver but they haven't determined if he even USED that one or not

[RACER X]

he put out ALOT of rounds or they were penetratring thru multiple people.....1 guy that died had 3 rounds in him + all the other dead/wounded.