Reasons we ride liter bikes-add yours or ones you've heard [Archive]

tached1000rr

11-09-2009, 09:03 PM

1) Cause only Suzuki makes a 750cc super sportbike
2) Too much power is a good thing
3) I have excellent throttle control
4) So I don't have to rev my engine to the moon while riding around town
5) It's an extension of my otherwise small penis
6) I drag race only
7) Cause I'm used to big block cars and pickups with lots of torque
8) I have a small man's complex and it's how I cope.
9) It's better than a 600 for commuting
10) I do a lot of two up riding.

Ok, feel free to add other reasons/excuses you have heard.

No Worries

11-09-2009, 09:07 PM

11. Torque.
12. Lot of uphill around here.

Homeslice

11-09-2009, 09:08 PM

Lower rpm's on the highway.

Dave

11-09-2009, 09:15 PM

cause i like jumping hills with a girl on the back

tached1000rr

11-09-2009, 09:16 PM

I like doing power wheelies....

ontwo

11-09-2009, 09:20 PM

...I'm afraid I'll just outgrow a 600 too fast

Mikey

11-09-2009, 09:28 PM

Because I'm lazy and don't always feel like tap-dancing on the shift lever.

tached1000rr

11-09-2009, 09:29 PM

Cause I'm too tall and weigh too much for a 600

Fleck750

11-09-2009, 09:32 PM

600's are for girls. Real men only ride 1000's.

Mikey

11-09-2009, 09:33 PM

Cause I'm too tall and weigh too much for a 600

I love that one- I'm 6'6" 225. If I can ride a 600, anybody should be able to.

tached1000rr

11-09-2009, 09:35 PM

600's are for girls. Real men only ride 1000's.

This is my friends sole reason lol...

TYEster

11-09-2009, 09:36 PM

Because it's alot harder to ride it properly around a race track. ;)

Tmall

11-09-2009, 09:39 PM

I don't know if I count.

- because I want to.

Adeptus_Minor

11-09-2009, 09:44 PM

I don't know if I count.

- because I want to.

Perfect.
:dthumb:

tached1000rr

11-09-2009, 09:48 PM

I don't know if I count.

- because I want to.

Yes, you count, cause you want to:lol

Homeslice

11-09-2009, 10:09 PM

I love that one- I'm 6'6" 225. If I can ride a 600, anybody should be able to.

pics of zzr400n please

pauldun170

11-09-2009, 10:19 PM

1. I tow a trailer from time to time.

Gas Man

11-09-2009, 10:36 PM

because you have an image to uphold.

pauldun170

11-09-2009, 10:46 PM

2. Shifting to pass someone is annoying.
Shifting should be something to enjoy. doing it to pass somebody feels like work

racedoll

11-09-2009, 10:47 PM

So I can do 100mph in 1st gear.

pauldun170

11-09-2009, 10:53 PM

3. Somedays, I don't want to exceed 3000rpm, other days I like to play with all 12,000 rpm

tached1000rr

11-09-2009, 10:57 PM

I can have slower corner entry speeds

pauldun170

11-09-2009, 11:05 PM

Since I hold on to bikes for awhile and sportbike performance is always progressing, I'd like to be able to keep up with future 600's on the road.
the ones that wuill make 250hp and weigh ten ounces

neebelung

11-09-2009, 11:07 PM

I don't know if I count.

- because I want to.

:rofl: yup, pretty much what I was gonna say.

derf

11-09-2009, 11:19 PM

Daves penis is small, he must compensate

Dave

11-10-2009, 12:11 AM

Daves penis is small, he must compensate

so whats your excuse yentl? :lol:

derf

11-10-2009, 12:23 AM

so whats your excuse yentl? :lol:

I was looking for a 600, but the price was too good to pass up (aka same small penis syndrome you have)

Mikey

11-10-2009, 12:25 AM

pics of zzr400n please

Thread hijack:

The ZZR is the wife's first bike. When we got our hands on it, it had been parked uncovered in a parking lot for three years. Before she ever rode it, she helped me rebuild it from the ground up. My wife now knows more about her bike than most of the guys I ride with. ;)

Proof:
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/95/l_02b03bd92503d02c37288d286b695916.jpg

Proud of her work. Took us like six months of working every night and on the weekends to get it here.
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/l_11b22803270540c4a6b7688de353676f.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/93/l_b98e7d78abf843af9727908fd1bda0d0.jpg

If you want any more, just let me know. I documented pretty much the whole build, so I have lots of picks.

It really is a blast to ride. It's comfortable, very quick-steering, and user-friendly. It makes like 39 hp, so you can really wring its neck and have an absolute blast without breaking the sound barrier or killing yourself- something that neither of my other bikes do well. There's something to be said for really tearing it up on a little bike like that.

/thread hijack

Dave

11-10-2009, 12:31 AM

Thread hijack:

The ZZR is the wife's first bike. When we got our hands on it, it had been parked uncovered in a parking lot for three years. Before she ever rode it, she helped me rebuild it from the ground up. My wife now knows more about her bike than most of the guys I ride with. ;)

Proof:
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/95/l_02b03bd92503d02c37288d286b695916.jpg

Proud of her work. Took us like six months of working every night and on the weekends to get it here.
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/l_11b22803270540c4a6b7688de353676f.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/93/l_b98e7d78abf843af9727908fd1bda0d0.jpg

If you want any more, just let me know. I documented pretty much the whole build, so I have lots of picks.

It really is a blast to ride. It's comfortable, very quick-steering, and user-friendly. It makes like 39 hp, so you can really wring its neck and have an absolute blast without breaking the sound barrier or killing yourself- something that neither of my other bikes do well. There's something to be said for really tearing it up on a little bike like that.

/thread hijack

i love that thing. any chance you can bring it back with you?

Dave

11-10-2009, 12:33 AM

I was looking for a 600, but the price was too good to pass up (aka same small penis syndrome you have)

fair enough, i wanted a daytona 675 but i'd always liked the 954. if it helps now that ive owned four bikes all but the blade have been 600 class or below

Homeslice

11-10-2009, 12:37 AM

Nice. Looks better than the ZZR600.
Cool Zuk sitting next to it too. I love oldskool twin round lights.

derf

11-10-2009, 12:48 AM

fair enough, i wanted a daytona 675 but i'd always liked the 954. if it helps now that ive owned four bikes all but the blade have been 600 class or below

I went in to the shop to look at a GSXr600, no real intention of buying a bike that day, but I was starting to look. Anyway they offered it to me for less than 3k out the door so I took it home. Everyone is happy, they had it on their books for less than 2 hours and I got a killer deal on a bike

lauralynne

11-10-2009, 02:16 AM

600's are for girls. Real men only ride 1000's.

600's are for men, only WOMEN ride liter twins:boobs::boobs:

...oh, AND I have a very small penis

MikeSP1

11-10-2009, 07:23 AM

Because two (really) big jugs are better than 4 little ones.

Or maybe it's just because...

karl_1052

11-10-2009, 07:51 AM

600's are for girls. Real men only ride 1000's.

1000s are for pussies.

so whats your excuse yentl? :lol:

:lol

Curb

11-10-2009, 08:00 AM

Because, my friend has one and this is my first bike and I don't want to be left behind.

Rider

11-10-2009, 09:01 AM

I like doing power wheelies....

Possible on a 750.

Nobody NEEDS a liter sport bike. It's ALL about image. I loved my 750, it was the absolute best of both worlds. Liter bike performance with the weight of a 600.

Tmall

11-10-2009, 09:06 AM

Power wheelies are possible on every 600 I've ridden.

Guess you don't NEED a 750 either. :lol:

z06boy

11-10-2009, 09:14 AM

Couldn't decide between a 600 and a Busa. :idk: :lol:

Same reason I prefer a .40 cal....it is a balance between a .45 and a 9mm.

pauldun170

11-10-2009, 09:29 AM

Possible on a 750.

Nobody NEEDS a liter sport bike. It's ALL about image. I loved my 750, it was the absolute best of both worlds. Liter bike performance with the weight of a 600.

Nobody NEEDS a motorcycle period.

Trip

11-10-2009, 09:35 AM

Because our roads are flat and straight

11. Torque.
12. Lot of uphill around here.

You don't count, it's old and heavy and a collectors item. More than acceptable use of liter.

I don't know if I count.

- because I want to.

You can count cause your in Canada, Buells in America don't count because the AMA said so.

Dave

11-10-2009, 09:41 AM

Power wheelies are possible on every 600 I've ridden.

Guess you don't NEED a 750 either. :lol:

after reading a very good primer on power wheelieing way underpowered bikes i managed to get my 450 to lift a few inches with a couple good bounces and a whole lotta throttle ;)

Tmall

11-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Take any 600 to 8000 rpm and whack the throttle wfo, the front will shoot up so fast that you'll likely shit your pants.

Take the same 600 and tug on the bars at 5000 while opening it wfo and it will likely still come up.

My 2000 R6 wheelied easier in first than my buell.

Mikey

11-10-2009, 10:10 AM

i love that thing. any chance you can bring it back with you?

Probably not, although I haven't tried very hard yet. The body, frame, lights, etc are all the same as the ZX6E, which is road-legal, but the engine is from the ZX4R, which was never legally imported to the US and so was never certified for road use. We can make money on it selling it in Japan, so we'll probably just sell it and get her something different in Texas. Besides, si
superslab on that thing would fucking suck.

Mikey

11-10-2009, 10:13 AM

Nice. Looks better than the ZZR600.
Cool Zuk sitting next to it too. I love oldskool twin round lights.

That's my GSXR 1100 next to it. The wife bought me that for my birthday about two years ago. It's a blast too, but in a totally different way. ;)

Dave

11-10-2009, 10:43 AM

Probably not, although I haven't tried very hard yet. The body, frame, lights, etc are all the same as the ZX6E, which is road-legal, but the engine is from the ZX4R, which was never legally imported to the US and so was never certified for road use. We can make money on it selling it in Japan, so we'll probably just sell it and get her something different in Texas. Besides, si
superslab on that thing would fucking suck.

even if you got it over as a track bike you could make money money.

Homeslice

11-10-2009, 11:29 AM

Although I would rather have an old ZX4R if you could find it.

Mikey

11-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Yeah, the ZX would make a much better trackbike- the ZZR runs out of ground clearance a little soon for decent track work. I've damn near ground the centerstand off of it on the street. :lol

Unfortunately, the ZX4R is a pretty difficult bike to find, even in Japan. FZR400s and GSXR400s are far more plentiful and just as capable. If I was looking for a cheap small-displacement bike, I'd go that direction.

Still, we'll probably sell the ZZR for something like $3K when we leave, which will work out nicely being as we've probably got about half that into it. The way we look at it, the wife learned to work on a motorcycle, learned to ride it, put a bunch of miles on it, crashed it once and then fixed it, and gained a ton of great experience. The fact that we'll make a few bucks on the deal is just icing on the cake. ;)

Amber Lamps

11-10-2009, 03:47 PM

Because they haven't produced a GSXR2000 yet!:lol:

Cutty72

11-10-2009, 04:00 PM

Because two (really) big jugs are better than 4 little ones.

Or maybe it's just because...

I agree!

Amber Lamps

11-10-2009, 04:12 PM

I agree!

That's why you guys ride Hogs! I'd rather 4 perky tits than 2 massive floppy, mushy, saggy tits any day!!!:lol::lol:

Buell VS GSXR

Tmall

11-10-2009, 04:58 PM

Get it straight..

Japanese jugs

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/_narcissistjhen/personal_shots/pasalubong032006/DSC02900.jpg

Big american jugs..

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=229&pictureid=6131

HokieDNA01

11-10-2009, 05:23 PM

Because I have small Balls going into a corner so I need BIG balls coming back out!!

pauldun170

11-10-2009, 05:35 PM

Tmall

11-10-2009, 05:44 PM

I'd still fap to that.

Why do you think it took so long to post??

Amber Lamps

11-10-2009, 07:45 PM

Because I have small Balls going into a corner so I need BIG balls coming back out!!

You know what's stupid about that?.... A 600 and a 1000 have approximately the same weight and handling characteristics so the same rider can basically enter the same corner at the same speed on either bike...

pauldun170

11-10-2009, 11:57 PM

Why do you think it took so long to post??

:lol:

Dave

11-11-2009, 02:10 AM

Rangerscott

11-11-2009, 05:46 PM

These look like jugs to me.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fG-115WsuAg/Sg94pqMdi9I/AAAAAAAACDc/t2eSSnU0jno/s400/992570835.jpg

dReWpY

11-11-2009, 05:48 PM

that would be a rc51 or TLR right there

Homeslice

11-11-2009, 06:04 PM

You know what's stupid about that?.... A 600 and a 1000 have approximately the same weight and handling characteristics so the same rider can basically enter the same corner at the same speed on either bike...

centrifical mass differences between engine sizes DOES have an effect........regardless of what "teh intranet" says

Tmall

11-11-2009, 06:20 PM

centrifical mass differences between engine sizes DOES have an effect........regardless of what "teh intranet" says

lol I swear I'm not following you around..

I used to think the larger crank and pistons would make for larger centrifugal force to offset, BUT! Litres rev lower. The couple thousand rpm difference may actually make those forces closer than most people think.

I have no hard facts to back this up, just something I was thinking about one day..

Dave

11-11-2009, 06:37 PM

These look like jugs to me.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fG-115WsuAg/Sg94pqMdi9I/AAAAAAAACDc/t2eSSnU0jno/s400/992570835.jpg

id like to apply for the job of her new bra. Im sure id do a better job than the one shes wearing ;)

Homeslice

11-11-2009, 06:50 PM

lol I swear I'm not following you around..

I used to think the larger crank and pistons would make for larger centrifugal force to offset, BUT! Litres rev lower. The couple thousand rpm difference may actually make those forces closer than most people think.

I have no hard facts to back this up, just something I was thinking about one day..

Probably true........

Antwanny

11-11-2009, 10:18 PM

that would be a rc51 or tlr right there

did we just become best friends?

dReWpY

11-12-2009, 12:20 AM

yep, wanna go do karate in the garage?

t-homo

11-12-2009, 02:50 AM

lmao. nice.

defector

11-12-2009, 11:43 AM

It's the perfect compromise between a sissy 600 and an unnecessary 1300.

z06boy

11-12-2009, 11:58 AM

It's the perfect compromise between a sissy 600 and an unnecessary 1300.

Pretty much what I posted minus the sissy and unnecessary part. :lol:

defector

11-12-2009, 12:10 PM

Pretty much what I posted minus the sissy and unnecessary part. :lol:

Yeah I obviously missed it.
But I just heard it yesterday. And dude was serious...

z06boy

11-12-2009, 12:40 PM

Yeah I obviously missed it.
But I just heard it yesterday. And dude was serious...

:lol: People are a trip for sure. I definitely do think it's a good balance between the two but would never call a 600 a puss...because it sure isn't and I like the Busa too...the only one I've ridden had a turbo and it wasn't "unnecessary" either. :lol

Sean

11-12-2009, 01:40 PM

You know what's stupid about that?.... A 600 and a 1000 have approximately the same weight and handling characteristics so the same rider can basically enter the same corner at the same speed on either bike...

The parts spinning in the engine all act like gyroscopes, so even if a 1000 and 600 weighed the same, all other things being equal, the 1000 would still be less nimble and slower to bend into corners.

Tmall

11-12-2009, 01:56 PM

The parts spinning in the engine all act like gyroscopes, so even if a 1000 and 600 weighed the same, all other things being equal, the 1000 would still be less nimble and slower to bend into corners.

Less rpms for everything inside the engine though.

A 5oz unit of mass spinning at 16500 rpm, would have the equivalent force of x spinning at 13500rpm?

I don't know the calculations, or I'd do em myself. And I know they won't be equal, I just think they're a lot closer than most people think.

Apoc's 2005 or 2006 1000rr turned in faster than my 2000 r6.

Antwanny

11-12-2009, 04:03 PM

yep, wanna go do karate in the garage?

yep

Mikey

11-12-2009, 06:04 PM

Less rpms for everything inside the engine though.

A 5oz unit of mass spinning at 16500 rpm, would have the equivalent force of x spinning at 13500rpm?

I don't know the calculations, or I'd do em myself. And I know they won't be equal, I just think they're a lot closer than most people think.

Apoc's 2005 or 2006 1000rr turned in faster than my 2000 r6.

You may be on to something, but I don't know the formulas to be able to do the math.

Your example, though, suffers because there are a lot more variables involved than simply displacement. The suspension geometry of those two bikes is dramatically different, and suspension setup was probably not comparable. ;)

tached1000rr

11-12-2009, 07:57 PM

Here's another i've heard more than once, "cause I have to respect the throttle of the liter bike"

racedoll

11-12-2009, 09:11 PM

Cause I'm "just a girl" and I'm not supposed to be able ride/handle such a big bike....so I have to prove them wrong.

derf

11-12-2009, 11:31 PM

Cause I'm "just a girl" and I'm not supposed to be able ride/handle such a big bike....so I have to prove them wrong.

No you just need to prove your penis is bigger

Mikey

11-13-2009, 12:57 AM

No you just need to prove your penis is bigger

My wife is famous for telling guys "if I had balls, they'd be bigger than yours." I'm gonna have a sticker made up for her next bike. :lol

z06boy

11-13-2009, 09:33 AM

My wife is famous for telling guys "if I had balls, they'd be bigger than yours." I'm gonna have a sticker made up for her next bike. :lol

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gTJMEP-c2fo/SPcucpmhxCI/AAAAAAAAG-k/fjBua6eGFBo/s400/if+i+had+balls.jpg

Amber Lamps

11-13-2009, 10:08 PM

The parts spinning in the engine all act like gyroscopes, so even if a 1000 and 600 weighed the same, all other things being equal, the 1000 would still be less nimble and slower to bend into corners.

Okay, displacement is governed by cylinder size which has no gyroscopic effect that I know of. I always thought that the crank and fly wheel were the main gyro culprits.:idk: Theoretically, a 600 or a 1000 "could" have the same sized crank couldn't they? Also, don't engine designers purposefully install larger than necessary fly wheels to produce a desired effect which would increase the gyroscopic effect, right? I always thought that race engine builders typically "lightened the crank" to reduce gyro effect and increase hp. I'm not sure, you seem to be the resident expert. Oh and don't discuss "gyro" effect around all these new V-Twin-aphiliacs around here.:lol:

karl_1052

11-14-2009, 12:13 AM

Okay, displacement is governed by cylinder size which has no gyroscopic effect that I know of. I always thought that the crank and fly wheel were the main gyro culprits.:idk: Theoretically, a 600 or a 1000 "could" have the same sized crank couldn't they? Also, don't engine designers purposefully install larger than necessary fly wheels to produce a desired effect which would increase the gyroscopic effect, right? I always thought that race engine builders typically "lightened the crank" to reduce gyro effect and increase hp. I'm not sure, you seem to be the resident expert. Oh and don't discuss "gyro" effect around all these new V-Twin-aphiliacs around here.:lol:

Technically a 600 and 1000 could have a crank with the same weight and throws, but then the motor on the 1000 would have to be wider to accomodate the bigger bores needed to make up for the extra displacement.

RedRider2k2

11-15-2009, 12:58 AM

Okay, displacement is governed by cylinder size which has no gyroscopic effect that I know of. I always thought that the crank and fly wheel were the main gyro culprits.:idk:

Bigger cylinders/displacement needs bigger pistons or longer throws. Both of which weigh more on their own and need more counterweight to balance the crank.

Rangerscott

11-15-2009, 02:31 AM

Cause the salesman actually made you think that your penis was bigger than it really is.

101lifts2

11-15-2009, 02:42 AM

Tmall

11-15-2009, 07:12 AM

Engine speed doesn't make it turn slower or faster. It is the weight of the reciprocating mass.

Engine speed is directly related to the speed that the internal components are spinning. And the faster you spin it, the stronger the gyroscopic forces are.

Put 50lb weight on the end of a rope and spin it at 50rpm. Now put a 40lb weight and spin it at 100rpm. The 40lb weight WILL have a higher centrifugal, and gyroscopic effect. (same length ropes btw).

Mikey

11-15-2009, 09:54 AM

101, I thought you were an engineer. How do you keep failing at basic physics concepts?

Amber Lamps

11-15-2009, 10:29 AM

101, I thought you were an engineer. How do you keep failing at basic physics concepts?

I don't know, I barely finished High School and I know that "gyroscopic effect" involves things that spin and not things that go up and down.... besides, if we really want to get into it, let's talk about materials, manufacturing techniques, etc. Potentially, my GSXR1000 may have lighter pistons, rods, etc than some 600s which would negate the premise that it would require a heavier crank. Not to mention the fact that the engine turns slower and the entire bike could possibly weigh the same or even less than a 600... Oh and what's this about the engine having to be "wider"? Displacement is determined by cylindrical volume which is calculated using cylinder radius and height. Who's to say that the 1000 motor isn't slightly taller? Okay, I'll increase my cylinder bores by 1mm in width and 7mm in height (approx) what's wrong with that? Maybe, I'll invent some cool new ceramic coating to put on my cylinders which will allow me to make the sleeves thinner without compromising engine durability....:lol:

Basically, it's a bullshit statement to say that an 1000 can't enter a corner just as fast as a 600 in every case... I guarantee that my 1000 can enter a corner just as fast or faster than oh a CBR600F2 with the same rider on both...:lol: I guess I need to go to engineering school to be able to figure this out.:lol:

HokieDNA01

11-15-2009, 04:02 PM

HAHA I never said a 1000 can't enter a corner as fast as a 600. I ment it as a rider that does not have the "balls" to carry speed through a corner can always ham fist the 1000 on the way back out to make up for lost time. I see it all the time. Guys break checking on their 1000s so I run up their ass then gunning it out of the turn so there is little to no chance I can pass them on a straight. One guy almost wrecked himself on his "big-bore" breaking hard into a sweeper then when I tried to pass he drag raced me forcing me back into my lane behind him. I was not happy. He wrecked it the following weekend.

Smittie61984

11-15-2009, 05:34 PM

Get it straight..

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=229&pictureid=6131

Those are actually British.

Dave

11-15-2009, 06:58 PM

Cause the salesman actually made you think that your penis was bigger than it really is.

cause a 600 couldnt pull my massive dong

Homeslice

11-15-2009, 07:32 PM

Oh and what's this about the engine having to be "wider"? Displacement is determined by cylindrical volume which is calculated using cylinder radius and height. Who's to say that the 1000 motor isn't slightly taller? Okay, I'll increase my cylinder bores by 1mm in width and 7mm in height (approx) what's wrong with that? :
Anytime you increase the stroke, the crank would need longer throws, which means it would need bigger counterwieghts as well :shrug:

Basically, it's a bullshit statement to say that an 1000 can't enter a corner just as fast as a 600 in every case... I guarantee that my 1000 can enter a corner just as fast or faster than oh a CBR600F2 with the same rider on both...:lol: :
Now let's see what happens if it's a modern-day 600, not a 15-yr old one :lol

Smittie61984

11-15-2009, 07:34 PM

Amber Lamps

11-15-2009, 09:07 PM

Anytime you increase the stroke, the crank would need longer throws, which means it would need bigger counterwieghts as well :shrug:

Now let's see what happens if it's a modern-day 600, not a 15-yr old one :lol

What will happen? Why can't a 1000 enter a corner as fast as a 600? I really don't get it...:idk:

Smittie61984

11-15-2009, 09:26 PM

What will happen? Why can't a 1000 enter a corner as fast as a 600? I really don't get it...:idk:

Are you being very technical about the "enter" phrase? If so then technically the Hyabusa could enter a corner faster than any stock bike out there. Not saying the outcome would be good.

I'm no expert by any means but I'd guess if you put Rossi on a GSXR600 and a GSXR1000 (Of the same year) and he was up at Deal's Gap (and supposing fear of crashing was about the same as a track). I feel that he'd be faster on the GSXR600 since I believe they have a shorter wheelbase, lighter weight, etc.

But I'm also sure that Rossi and a handful of people in the world would be able to exploit those differences.

pauldun170

11-15-2009, 09:39 PM

I don't know...
I started riding when bikes had a bit more "heft" to em.

Whipping around a 600 doesn't feel that much different to me than whipping around a 1000 of equal weight. A few ounces between a 600's inner workings and a 1000's inner workings?
My ass isn't that sensitive and I'm not racing competitively.

101lifts2

11-16-2009, 12:57 AM

Engine speed is directly related to the speed that the internal components are spinning. And the faster you spin it, the stronger the gyroscopic forces are.

Put 50lb weight on the end of a rope and spin it at 50rpm. Now put a 40lb weight and spin it at 100rpm. The 40lb weight WILL have a higher centrifugal, and gyroscopic effect. (same length ropes btw).

I understand this, but an engine (other than the crankshaft) continously changes direction up and down. You are not spinning something in one direction. The piston is at 0RPM at the top of the stoke and 0RPM at the bottom of the stroke (regardless of engine speed), though the acceleration is not 0.

101lifts2

11-16-2009, 12:59 AM

101, I thought you were an engineer. How do you keep failing at basic physics concepts?

He is speaking of the piston and rod assemblies, not the crankshaft. Or at least that is what I was assuming. And what is this "keep failing" you speak of?

Besides I'm an EE, not an ME (though I had a bunch of ME classes which I hated).

racedoll

11-16-2009, 01:03 AM

karl_1052

11-16-2009, 09:10 AM

He is speaking of the piston and rod assemblies, not the crankshaft. Or at least that is what I was assuming. And what is this "keep failing" you speak of?

Besides I'm an EE, not an ME (though I had a bunch of ME classes which I hated).

He is talking about the gyroscopic effects of the heavier crankshaft in the 1000 versus the 600.

Dave

11-16-2009, 10:40 AM

:lol: i i were compensating id have a full thousand. Im short a moped :lol:

fnfalman

11-16-2009, 02:41 PM

...because nothing brings out the stupid better than a 100-HP dirt bike.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/KTM990ADVcornering.jpg

Rider

11-16-2009, 03:51 PM

Uh yeah.. a 600lb dirt bike. :skep: Try a 50hp, 230lb wet dirt bike. A la CRF450R.

101lifts2

11-16-2009, 08:59 PM

He is talking about the gyroscopic effects of the heavier crankshaft in the 1000 versus the 600.
OIC...then yes of course. My bad.

fnfalman

11-16-2009, 11:50 PM

Uh yeah.. a 600lb dirt bike. :skep: Try a 50hp, 230lb wet dirt bike. A la CRF450R.

600-lbs dirt bike? Excuse me, but you must have mistaken my KTM for a piece of shit overweight BMW.

BTW, can your pussy ass dirtbike do 100MPH plus on or off road?

Mr Lefty

11-17-2009, 07:47 AM

600-lbs dirt bike? Excuse me, but you must have mistaken my KTM for a piece of shit overweight BMW.

BTW, can your pussy ass dirtbike do 100MPH plus on or off road?

well I hit 85 on my DRZ on gravel/dirt roads... it's got 39hp...

and the Dakar 650 I followed hit 95... but didn't want to leave me...

(all GPS readings for speed)

but yes... a CRF450 or a RMZ450 will hit 100mph easy

Amber Lamps

11-17-2009, 07:51 AM

well I hit 85 on my DRZ on gravel/dirt roads... it's got 39hp...

and the Dakar 650 I followed hit 95... but didn't want to leave me...

(all GPS readings for speed)

Yea I was gonna say that my '04 DRZ would do 80 mph no problem... Granted, it's not 100 mph but for the $8,000+ and couple hundred pound difference he can have the extra 20 mph!!!:lol:

Mr Lefty

11-17-2009, 07:56 AM

Yea I was gonna say that my '04 DRZ would do 80 mph no problem... Granted, it's not 100 mph but for the $8,000+ and couple hundred pound difference he can have the extra 20 mph!!!:lol:

shit you could throw in a 470 stroker kit and hit 50 or 60hp... 100mph would be EASY.

not knock'n on the 990.... it's a kick ass bike... but if you're talk'n about speed there are lighter more agile bikes that'll do that.

Rider

11-17-2009, 08:26 AM

600-lbs dirt bike? Excuse me, but you must have mistaken my KTM for a piece of shit overweight BMW.

BTW, can your pussy ass dirtbike do 100MPH plus on or off road?

Probably if it was geared for it but not with OEM gearing.

fnfalman

11-17-2009, 02:16 PM

well I hit 85 on my DRZ on gravel/dirt roads... it's got 39hp...

and the Dakar 650 I followed hit 95... but didn't want to leave me...

(all GPS readings for speed)

but yes... a CRF450 or a RMZ450 will hit 100mph easy

Carry a load, passing semitrucks on freeways too?

Yeah, that's what I thought.