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This is not how rock bands are supposed to die. Bands are supposed to go out in a blaze of charred hotel suites, blood feuds and drug overdoses. Instead, Aerosmith's end came in a blog entry.
In a story the media is still trying to wrap its head around, guitarist Joe Perry told the Las Vegas Sun that all he knows about the end of his band is what he's read on the web, which is telling him that after decades together, Aerosmith is no more. After playing a show in Abu Dhabi last week, Perry said he returned home to Boston and read an interview Tyler had given to the website of Classic Rock Magazine in which in said he was done with the band.
"I don't know what I'm doing yet, but it's definitely going to be something Steven Tyler: working on the brand of myself –- Brand Tyler," Tyler told Classic Rock.
Apparently inter-band communications are not what they could be, so reading rumors and quotes online seems to be Aerosmith's only source of news about each other. The Sun quotes:
"Steven quit as far as I can tell," Perry said from his Boston home. "I don't know anymore than you do about it. I got off the plane two nights ago. I saw online that Steven said that he was going to leave the band. I don't know for how long, indefinitely or whatever. Other than that, I don't know."
Part of the problem, he says, is that Tyler doesn't return his phone calls.
"He's notorious for that," Perry said. "That's one thing I've learned to live with. I try to overlook it. I like to pick my battles. Frankly, the last few months I've been wanting not to rock the boat. I don't want him canceling any more gigs. We really wanted to do these last four. We just kind of didn't want to call him out or anything and get him anymore pissed off, for whatever reason. So we just let things lie. So we did the gigs and, like I said, I got off the plane and saw this online. That's how I know about it."
And apparently, the band as a whole is believing what it reads. The group posted on its own website a link to a Boston Herald story about the Classic Rock story about the break-up.
SteveP
11-10-2009, 01:30 AM
Not really a loss.
agreed. caring low to none
neebelung
11-10-2009, 07:00 AM
Eh, it kinda sucks. I figured it was due to his injuries a couple months ago, that maybe he'd decided he was just gettin too old for that stuff, but :shrug: who knows....
tommymac
11-10-2009, 07:16 AM
Guess him and joe perry arent friends again. Those guys should have more than enough money to ride off into the sunset but I guess they still want to play.
Tom
karl_1052
11-10-2009, 07:46 AM
Aerosmith died in a car crash in 1975.
Fuck Tyler.
Aerosmith died in a car crash in 1975.
Fuck Tyler.
send her to my house and i will ;) stephen on the other hand should be crushed with unused revolution aerosmith arcade machines...slowly
marko138
11-10-2009, 09:51 AM
Didn't know anyone still cared about Aerosmith...or ever did for that matter.
tommymac
11-10-2009, 09:52 AM
Didn't know anyone still cared about Aerosmith...or ever did for that matter.
I will care if it helps me pass the time in an otherwise boring day :lol:
Tom
Rider
11-10-2009, 09:53 AM
Who really cares? It's not like they are relevant in the music industry today.
tommymac
11-10-2009, 09:55 AM
Who really cares? It's not like they are relevant in the music industry today.
They just do their guest appearances play a couple of hits and ask for a boatload of money for showing up.
Tom
z06boy
11-10-2009, 09:55 AM
Eh, it kinda sucks. I figured it was due to his injuries a couple months ago, that maybe he'd decided he was just gettin too old for that stuff, but :shrug: who knows....
My thinking as well.
marko138
11-10-2009, 10:02 AM
Who really cares? It's not like they are relevant in the music industry today.
I dont know that they ever were, really. I mean Joe Perry is a bad ass guitar player, but over all the band was never great.
Avatard
11-10-2009, 12:03 PM
Hmm. Couple of comments about their relevance today. Interesting (and not very insightful).
One of the great problems with a band that influences current music so much, is that they become universal, and thus transparent.
I'm a bassist, and this argument, as it applies to Jaco Pastorius, a revolutionary bassist, seems to come up often among young bass players just arriving on the scene:
"Gee, I don't like Jaco, I can't see how his music is even relevant to mine, what's all the fuss about this guy?"
Of course, the fuss is because bass players played one way before he existed, and almost everyone played (like it or not) differently in their approach afterward, as he influenced so many. The same can be said about bassist James Jamerson. He changed things even more in his day. Even if you didn't like Motown, before Motown the bass was barely heard, and afterward it was the most powerful instrument in the mix, as loud as the vocal, thus forever changing almost all music.
The Beatles were a game changer, and everyone was influenced. It's safe to say that this is true of Zepplin, Aerosmith, Hendrix, and even Elvis.
They may be hard to understand anymore, because their "distance" from what everyone else is doing has been reduced due to the fact that everyone else has been influenced by them so much.
Of course, the "antidote" to this, as a musician, is to "reinvent" yourself periodically - or maybe just hide out for a while, and make a "comeback"...that seems to work too (kidding, but not really).
Of course, reinventing yourself usually pisses off your core audience, who expect you to regurgitate their favorite song ad-infinitem.
So it's a no-win any way you slice it. Smart musicians keep changing, and smart listeners try to keep up...but everyone needs to make a living.
This is the Yin and the Yang of the music biz at its essence, I suppose.
neebelung
11-10-2009, 01:01 PM
Hmm. Couple of comments about their relevance today. Interesting (and not very insightful).
One of the great problems with a band that influences current music so much, is that they become universal, and thus transparent.
I'm a bassist, and this argument, as it applies to Jaco Pastorius, a revolutionary bassist, seems to come up often among young bass players just arriving on the scene:
"Gee, I don't like Jaco, I can't see how his music is even relevant to mine, what's all the fuss about this guy?"
Of course, the fuss is because bass players played one way before he existed, and almost everyone played (like it or not) differently in their approach afterward, as he influenced so many. The same can be said about bassist James Jamerson. He changed things even more in his day. Even if you didn't like Motown, before Motown the bass was barely heard, and afterward it was the most powerful instrument in the mix, as loud as the vocal, thus forever changing almost all music.
The Beatles were a game changer, and everyone was influenced. It's safe to say that this is true of Zepplin, Aerosmith, Hendrix, and even Elvis.
They may be hard to understand anymore, because their "distance" from what everyone else is doing has been reduced due to the fact that everyone else has been influenced by them so much.
Of course, the "antidote" to this, as a musician, is to "reinvent" yourself periodically - or maybe just hide out for a while, and make a "comeback"...that seems to work too (kidding, but not really).
Of course, reinventing yourself usually pisses off your core audience, who expect you to regurgitate their favorite song ad-infinitem.
So it's a no-win any way you slice it. Smart musicians keep changing, and smart listeners try to keep up...but everyone needs to make a living.
This is the Yin and the Yang of the music biz at its essence, I suppose.
Great post, man. :dthumb:
marko138
11-10-2009, 01:10 PM
Hmm. Couple of comments about their relevance today. Interesting (and not very insightful).
One of the great problems with a band that influences current music so much, is that they become universal, and thus transparent.
I'm a bassist, and this argument, as it applies to Jaco Pastorius, a revolutionary bassist, seems to come up often among young bass players just arriving on the scene:
"Gee, I don't like Jaco, I can't see how his music is even relevant to mine, what's all the fuss about this guy?"
Of course, the fuss is because bass players played one way before he existed, and almost everyone played (like it or not) differently in their approach afterward, as he influenced so many. The same can be said about bassist James Jamerson. He changed things even more in his day. Even if you didn't like Motown, before Motown the bass was barely heard, and afterward it was the most powerful instrument in the mix, as loud as the vocal, thus forever changing almost all music.
The Beatles were a game changer, and everyone was influenced. It's safe to say that this is true of Zepplin, Aerosmith, Hendrix, and even Elvis.
They may be hard to understand anymore, because their "distance" from what everyone else is doing has been reduced due to the fact that everyone else has been influenced by them so much.
Of course, the "antidote" to this, as a musician, is to "reinvent" yourself periodically - or maybe just hide out for a while, and make a "comeback"...that seems to work too (kidding, but not really).
Of course, reinventing yourself usually pisses off your core audience, who expect you to regurgitate their favorite song ad-infinitem.
So it's a no-win any way you slice it. Smart musicians keep changing, and smart listeners try to keep up...but everyone needs to make a living.
This is the Yin and the Yang of the music biz at its essence, I suppose.
I agree with what you're saying, I've just never put Aerosmith in the same conversation as the Beatles, Jimi, Zeppelin, or Elvis.
Rider
11-10-2009, 01:14 PM
Hmm. Couple of comments about their relevance today. Interesting (and not very insightful).
One of the great problems with a band that influences current music so much, is that they become universal, and thus transparent.
I'm a bassist, and this argument, as it applies to Jaco Pastorius, a revolutionary bassist, seems to come up often among young bass players just arriving on the scene:
"Gee, I don't like Jaco, I can't see how his music is even relevant to mine, what's all the fuss about this guy?"
Of course, the fuss is because bass players played one way before he existed, and almost everyone played (like it or not) differently in their approach afterward, as he influenced so many. The same can be said about bassist James Jamerson. He changed things even more in his day. Even if you didn't like Motown, before Motown the bass was barely heard, and afterward it was the most powerful instrument in the mix, as loud as the vocal, thus forever changing almost all music.
The Beatles were a game changer, and everyone was influenced. It's safe to say that this is true of Zepplin, Aerosmith, Hendrix, and even Elvis.
They may be hard to understand anymore, because their "distance" from what everyone else is doing has been reduced due to the fact that everyone else has been influenced by them so much.
Of course, the "antidote" to this, as a musician, is to "reinvent" yourself periodically - or maybe just hide out for a while, and make a "comeback"...that seems to work too (kidding, but not really).
Of course, reinventing yourself usually pisses off your core audience, who expect you to regurgitate their favorite song ad-infinitem.
So it's a no-win any way you slice it. Smart musicians keep changing, and smart listeners try to keep up...but everyone needs to make a living.
This is the Yin and the Yang of the music biz at its essence, I suppose.
For some that may be the case. I listen to a lot of different bands and not one of them has said they were inspired by Aerosmith. Beatles, Led Zeplin, Black Sabbath, Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, and even Alice Cooper...... those are the fathers of rock. Aerosmith plays no role in the evolution of rock music. Yes lots of people liked them but I can't name a single band playing today that was influenced by them.
neebelung
11-10-2009, 01:52 PM
I agree with what you're saying, I've just never put Aerosmith in the same conversation as the Beatles, Jimi, Zeppelin, or Elvis.
Maybe not quite THAT high up on the list, but important to music nonetheless.
defector
11-10-2009, 01:57 PM
How about:
Slash and Axl Rose?
Vince Neil and Nikki Sixx?
James Hetfield?
Vernon Reid?
Tommy Caradonna?
All have at one or another point claimed Aerosmith as one of their main influences in music.
IMO, in their early years, Aerosmith were the American version of the Rolling Stones .
Avatard
11-10-2009, 02:05 PM
Yeah, and lest we forget, they brought Rap to MTV, and popular attention.
Wait; KILL THEM.
tommymac
11-10-2009, 02:06 PM
They also ohelped lay the ground work for the rap/metal bands. Although I think anthrax and public enemy also played a big part in that FWIW.
Tom
z06boy
11-10-2009, 02:27 PM
I've always liked Aerosmith myself however no I don't think that they are on the same level as some others mentioned here but I've had some good times jamming out to them and I'm sure I will in the future. :rockout: Ok maybe not in person. :lol:
Fuck Aerosmith, good riddance
Rider
11-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Fuck Aerosmith, good riddance
You hate all music unless of course it's Samwell
z06boy
11-10-2009, 02:48 PM
You hate all music unless of course it's Samwell
:lol: I had to look that one up.
You hate all music unless of course it's Samwell
I am fine if Carrie Underwood wants to come shake her ass in my face. Of course I wouldn't really be listening to her music at that point anymore.
Avatard
11-10-2009, 02:59 PM
Nah man, she's nasty. Ick.
Rider
11-10-2009, 03:00 PM
I am fine if Carrie Underwood wants to come shake her ass in my face. Of course I wouldn't really be listening to her music at that point anymore.
I think we ALL would be fine with that.
marko138
11-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Nah man, she's nasty. Ick.
Prove it.
Nah man, she's nasty. Ick.
I think we found the real samwell lover in the group. He even used "ick."
defector
11-10-2009, 03:18 PM
You hate all music unless of course it's Samwell
Wow. Samwell.
:whatwhat:
:lol
z06boy
11-10-2009, 04:44 PM
Yep she's nasty alright. :?: I don't like country music but if she wanted to sing to me...have at it.
http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/carrie-underwood.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/timcat4843/carrie2.jpg
Avatard
11-10-2009, 05:49 PM
I think we found the real samwell lover in the group. He even used "ick."
Who the fuck is Samwell?
BobTheBiker
11-10-2009, 06:29 PM
Who the fuck is Samwell?
this is the correct answer of any non gay.
That said, I wont miss aerosmith much. some of their early music was alright, but in later years it sucked.
Give me the tunes of Nikki Sixx anyday. way better. hell keven dubrow was good to me.
tommymac
11-10-2009, 06:38 PM
this is the correct answer of any non gay.
That said, I wont miss aerosmith much. some of their early music was alright, but in later years it sucked.
Give me the tunes of Nikki Sixx anyday. way better. hell keven dubrow was good to me.
that sixx am cd is very good :rockwoot:
Tom
Hmm. Couple of comments about their relevance today. Interesting (and not very insightful).
One of the great problems with a band that influences current music so much, is that they become universal, and thus transparent.
I'm a bassist, and this argument, as it applies to Jaco Pastorius, a revolutionary bassist, seems to come up often among young bass players just arriving on the scene:
"Gee, I don't like Jaco, I can't see how his music is even relevant to mine, what's all the fuss about this guy?"
Of course, the fuss is because bass players played one way before he existed, and almost everyone played (like it or not) differently in their approach afterward, as he influenced so many. The same can be said about bassist James Jamerson. He changed things even more in his day. Even if you didn't like Motown, before Motown the bass was barely heard, and afterward it was the most powerful instrument in the mix, as loud as the vocal, thus forever changing almost all music.
The Beatles were a game changer, and everyone was influenced. It's safe to say that this is true of Zepplin, Aerosmith, Hendrix, and even Elvis.
They may be hard to understand anymore, because their "distance" from what everyone else is doing has been reduced due to the fact that everyone else has been influenced by them so much.
Of course, the "antidote" to this, as a musician, is to "reinvent" yourself periodically - or maybe just hide out for a while, and make a "comeback"...that seems to work too (kidding, but not really).
Of course, reinventing yourself usually pisses off your core audience, who expect you to regurgitate their favorite song ad-infinitem.
So it's a no-win any way you slice it. Smart musicians keep changing, and smart listeners try to keep up...but everyone needs to make a living.
This is the Yin and the Yang of the music biz at its essence, I suppose.
as a bassist i thought your god would be les claypool.
and id smash the crap out of taylor swift.
Who the fuck is Samwell?
I will never believe you don't know who he is given your knowledge of music and pop culture. Hell South Park already did an episode on it long ago.
Avatard
11-10-2009, 07:32 PM
as a bassist i thought your god would be les claypool.
No.
and id smash the crap out of taylor swift.
What is she, fucking 12?
What is she, fucking 12?
Try like 19 or so now, maybe in her 20s. She is legal.
askmrjesus
11-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Try like 19 or so now, maybe in her 20s. She is legal.
There's a big difference between legal and interesting...
JC
Rider
11-11-2009, 08:28 AM
as a bassist i thought your god would be les claypool.
Nah he's nothing but Cliff Burton, now he was a bass god as is Steve Harris. Ryan Martinie is pretty fucking bad ass too. I hate Korn but I'll even admit that Fieldy is another great bass player.
tommymac
11-11-2009, 08:33 AM
Nah he's nothing but Cliff Burton, now he was a bass god as is Steve Harris. Ryan Martinie is pretty fucking bad ass too. I hate Korn but I'll even admit that Fieldy is another great bass player.
Cliff and Steve harris were my favorites growing up. Plus if Cliff were still alive I think he woul dhave slapped james and lars for the black album and everything since then. :rockwoot:
Rider
11-11-2009, 08:55 AM
Cliff and Steve harris were my favorites growing up. Plus if Cliff were still alive I think he woul dhave slapped james and lars for the black album and everything since then. :rockwoot:
100% truth.
marko138
11-11-2009, 09:15 AM
as a bassist i thought your god would be les claypool.
and id smash the crap out of taylor swift.
I played bass for 12 years before I started playing drums. I hate Les Claypool.
Homeslice
11-11-2009, 09:28 AM
IMO, in their early years, Aerosmith were the American version of the Rolling Stones .
:lol
damn, how do you guys feel about william murderface? :Lol:
Rider
11-11-2009, 01:48 PM
damn, how do you guys feel about william murderface? :Lol:
Who? I had to use Wiki...... I don't watch that CRAP!!!
Amorok
11-11-2009, 07:05 PM
William Murderface MURDERFACE MURDERFACE.
There's a big difference between legal and interesting...
JC
18 and above is fair game, look at Hef.
Homeslice
11-11-2009, 08:39 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler joined estranged bandmate Joe Perry on stage in New York in hopes of setting the record straight about the future of the feuding rock group."New York, I want you to know I'm not leaving Aerosmith," Tyler told fans in a surprise appearance on Tuesday night at a concert by Perry's solo side project, music web site NME.com reported.
Tyler, 61 and Perry, his songwriting partner of 40 years, then launched into a version of "Walk This Way", one of Aerosmith's biggest hits, NME.com said.
The future of the band has been in doubt since a North American tour was cut short in August when Tyler fell off stage, and relations between Perry and Tyler deteriorated to a low this week with bitter Twitter messages and cryptic asides about whether Tyler is still with the band.
Perry, who said earlier this week that the band was "positively" seeking a new singer, indicated on Wednesday that all was still not well in the band. In an interview with Rolling Stone, he referred to Tyler as an "acquaintance."
"He wants to take two years off from the band," Perry told the magazine. "The rest of the band wants to keep on working. We have so many different options to fill up that time. Anything is possible at this point. Basically, any communication that we've had over the last couple of months has been through managers, so that's been pretty strange."
Tyler, on the other hand, told celebrity web site TMZ.com after Tuesday's appearance that "There is absolutely no validity to the rumor that Aerosmith is breaking up."
Perry told Rolling Stone that he was just as surprised as the fans when Tyler showed up at the venue, and asked to sing the encore tune.
"Being an acquaintance of 40 years, I said, 'Why not?'" Perry said. " So he came up and sang and that was the last I saw of him."
(Reporting by Dean Goodman: Editing by Jill Serjeant)
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