View Full Version : Am I the only one who still likes pop-up headlights?
Homeslice
11-10-2009, 03:05 PM
I think pop-ups are cool, I've had 2 cars with them, and I think it's cool having something at the end of the hood to look at while you're driving (kind of like a hood ornament, which kinda helps you "point" the car). This is the main reason I'm dissapointed with the C6 Corvette, they ditched the pop-ups and installed those ugly beady-eyes. They remind me of all the teenagers who take their cheap hatchback and replace their stock headlights with a "kustom" beady-eye kit.
Tmall
11-10-2009, 03:09 PM
Yes, I happen to think you're stuck in the late 80's or early 90's..
I think this because every bike and car that you think is nice, I thought was cool when I was 10. :lol
Rider
11-10-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm not a fan of pop ups on any car. The C6 Corvette looks bad ass. I was also never a fan of the hideaway headlights on the 68 camaro either.
Homeslice
11-10-2009, 03:14 PM
Yes, I happen to think you're stuck in the late 80's or early 90's..
I think this because every bike and car that you think is nice, I thought was cool when I was 10. :lol
So the bikes you thought were cool when you were 10 didn't have any influence on you?
Tmall
11-10-2009, 03:16 PM
No.. I was 10.
I don't like the bands I liked then, don't like the cars I liked then.
IMHO, there was a period for about 10 years where every single thing made was hideous and needlessly "loud" looking.
I don't like fluorescent colored bikes, I don't like car headlights on bikes, and I like to see the engine on a bike.
The only thing I liked at 10 that I still like now are boobies and cartoons.
RACER X
11-10-2009, 03:31 PM
i like low-pro pop-ups i had on my miata, no so much the big round bug eye one's that are OE
t-homo
11-10-2009, 03:53 PM
No.. I was 10.
I don't like the bands I liked then, don't like the cars I liked then.
IMHO, there was a period for about 10 years where every single thing made was hideous and needlessly "loud" looking.
I don't like fluorescent colored bikes, I don't like car headlights on bikes, and I like to see the engine on a bike.
The only thing I liked at 10 that I still like now are boobies and cartoons.
Samesies.
pauldun170
11-10-2009, 03:53 PM
depends on the car.
All pop-up headlights suck when the motor goes.
z06boy
11-10-2009, 04:00 PM
depends on the car.
All pop-up headlights suck when the motor goes.
Agreed.
I'm fine with the pop-ups on my C5 Z06 but I also like the C6 Z06.
I've had cars before with pop-ups and the motor went bad on one...yep it sucked.
Homeslice
11-10-2009, 04:13 PM
Plexiglass-covered lights look good when they're nicely done.....See Aston Martin. But on the C6 they look like some cheap Pep Boys kit.
karl_1052
11-10-2009, 04:32 PM
No.. I was 10.
I don't like the bands I liked then, don't like the cars I liked then. The only thing I liked at 10 that I still like now are boobies and cartoons.
When I was 10 I liked boobies, Get Smart, Trans Ams and Yamaha Seca Turbos.
I still like all of them.
Is it our fault you grew up 10 years too late?redflip
Pop-ups add weight, mechanical & electrical complexity, reduce effectiveness of the lights, are prone to breakage, hurt aerodynamics, and generally detract from the car in pretty much every single way.
Mikey
11-10-2009, 05:27 PM
depends on the car.
All pop-up headlights suck when the motor goes.
You're not kidding. I have no idea how many sets of motors/gears I've been through on my '95 Formula. There's a guy that makes brass (or aluminum, depending on material pricing) gears for them. My next step is either those or custom-fabricating some kind of non-popup headlight system for it.
When I was 10 I liked boobies, Get Smart, Trans Ams and Yamaha Seca Turbos.
I still like all of them.
Is it our fault you grew up 10 years too late?redflip
eww seca turbo. easily the ugliest of the factory turbo bikes, gpz750 turbo was worlds better looking.
hey slice you would have loved it today at work, saw a bunch of og fzr 600s and a early 750 ninja
RACER X
11-11-2009, 08:11 AM
You're not kidding. I have no idea how many sets of motors/gears I've been through on my '95 Formula. There's a guy that makes brass (or aluminum, depending on material pricing) gears for them. My next step is either those or custom-fabricating some kind of non-popup headlight system for it.
had my miata for ? ~10yrs lights never failed me........:rockwoot:
had my celica for a few years the lights always failed me.
The lights would pop up to random points every time, sometimes I could see where I was driving, sometimes I would look at the trees and sky, and sometimes i wouldn't look at anything
Speedracer42
11-11-2009, 10:42 AM
I think pop-ups are cool, I've had 2 cars with them, and I think it's cool having something at the end of the hood to look at while you're driving (kind of like a hood ornament, which kinda helps you "point" the car). This is the main reason I'm dissapointed with the C6 Corvette, they ditched the pop-ups and installed those ugly beady-eyes. They remind me of all the teenagers who take their cheap hatchback and replace their stock headlights with a "kustom" beady-eye kit.
You look at the end of your hood to help you "point" the car?? LOL
The C6 is by far the best 'Vette ever made and an excellent styling piece. Pop ups would be disgusting and outdated. And if you knew anything about the earlier 'Vettes that did have pop ups you would know those fuckin things failed ALOT
Homeslice
11-11-2009, 11:01 AM
You look at the end of your hood to help you "point" the car?? LOL
It's just a subliminal thing......It "looks" cool to see them at the end of the hood......that's all.
The C6 is by far the best 'Vette ever made and an excellent styling piece.
By the far the best Vette technologically, yes. But the best-looking? Not IMO.......especially not with those lights that look like something a teenager fabricated in his garage.
And if you knew anything about the earlier 'Vettes that did have pop ups you would know those fuckin things failed ALOT
American engineering.....Not surprised.
Speedracer42
11-11-2009, 11:21 AM
It's just a subliminal thing......It "looks" cool to see them at the end of the hood......that's all.
By the far the best Vette technologically, yes. But the best-looking? Not IMO.......especially not with those lights that look like something a teenager fabricated in his garage.
American engineering.....Not surprised.
This is not in offense to you, because Ive heard this so many times over the years. But that is a fairly ignorant statement. I spent most of my life from 16-30 in the auto service biz. I worked for every GM line except Caddy, worked for an independent for a long time that serviced all Jap and American line autos and worked for a high end Euro independent that service Jag, Benz, BMW, Ferrari, Maserati, and many others. And I can assure you. EVERY single manufacturer Ive ever come across has built and designed their fair share of dog shit cars. Every one of them. And everyone of them have also built some GREAT cars.
Homeslice
11-11-2009, 11:26 AM
This is not in offense to you, because Ive heard this so many times over the years. But that is a fairly ignorant statement. I spent most of my life from 16-30 in the auto service biz. I worked for every GM line except Caddy, worked for an independent for a long time that serviced all Jap and American line autos and worked for a high end Euro independent that service Jag, Benz, BMW, Ferrari, Maserati, and many others. And I can assure you. EVERY single manufacturer Ive ever come across has built and designed their fair share of dog shit cars. Every one of them. And everyone of them have also built some GREAT cars.
Well of course. European cars are no more reliable than American, in fact I'd say overall they are worse. But if you compare Japanese to American, well.......The Japanese usually insist on higher specs from their parts suppliers.
i have an 87 daytona they have never failed. Not even once. My 89 used to have the manual crank drift to one side and stop the lights but that was easily fixed
neebelung
11-11-2009, 12:35 PM
had my celica for a few years the lights always failed me.
The lights would pop up to random points every time, sometimes I could see where I was driving, sometimes I would look at the trees and sky, and sometimes i wouldn't look at anything
I was super lucky in that I NEVER had problems with the pop ups on my Celica (it was an '86 - had it from about 1991 to 1995)... but I know I was one of the few lucky ones. :lol:
Avatard
11-11-2009, 02:18 PM
I have popups on my C4. I love them. I still get a thrill when I turn on the headlights.
I've always loved hidden headlights on a car.
1969 SS/RS Camaro FTW.
z06boy
11-12-2009, 11:53 AM
I have popups on my C4. I love them. I still get a thrill when I turn on the headlights.
I've always loved hidden headlights on a car.
1969 SS/RS Camaro FTW.
Yep I love the late 60's Camaro's with the hidden headlights.
I've owned 4 Vettes...1972...1978...1995 and my current 2002 and so far I've never had an issue with pop-ups.
A Mitsubishi Starion Turbo I owned had an issue with one of them.
Mikey
11-12-2009, 01:52 PM
had my miata for ? ~10yrs lights never failed me........:rockwoot:
The lights and motors don't actually fail, it's the cheap plastic gear inside the motors. The plastic isn't strong enough for the job, and the gears inevitably strip. The headlights usually still work, but make a horrible noise when being raised or lowered.
Like I said, there is a guy who makes brass gears for them. I'll probably give that a shot when I get back to the States. With that done, they should be problem-free forever.
karl_1052
11-12-2009, 02:06 PM
The lights and motors don't actually fail, it's the cheap plastic gear inside the motors. The plastic isn't strong enough for the job, and the gears inevitably strip. The headlights usually still work, but make a horrible noise when being raised or lowered.
Like I said, there is a guy who makes brass gears for them. I'll probably give that a shot when I get back to the States. With that done, they should be problem-free forever.
Unless it is a C3 corvette, then it is the vaccuum tubes that usually cause the problem.
Avatard
11-12-2009, 03:00 PM
Unless it is a C3 corvette, then it is the vaccuum tubes that usually cause the problem.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21yyh3Qb7zL._SL500_AA250_.jpg
I think you mean vacuum lines (hoses).
karl_1052
11-12-2009, 03:19 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21yyh3Qb7zL._SL500_AA250_.jpg
I think you mean vacuum lines (hoses).
lol, I was at a loss for words.:?:
Flexin
11-14-2009, 07:40 PM
I think pop-ups are cool, I've had 2 cars with them, and I think it's cool having something at the end of the hood to look at while you're driving (kind of like a hood ornament, which kinda helps you "point" the car). This is the main reason I'm dissapointed with the C6 Corvette, they ditched the pop-ups and installed those ugly beady-eyes. They remind me of all the teenagers who take their cheap hatchback and replace their stock headlights with a "kustom" beady-eye kit.
Yes I think you are the only one that likes them.
I had them on my Firebird but I wouldn't say I loved them. Didn't hate them (other then when detailing the car. You detail the car then drive that night and thats when you remember that you didn't wash the lights and they are covered in bugs. I like it a bit when you first turn them on because they pop up and when the drop down. Other then that nothing.
What I hate is the blink you get when one doesn't work. :td:
James
Flexin
11-14-2009, 07:41 PM
Speaking of the Firebird. T tops I love. More cars need T tops. I would love to have another car with them.
James
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