Why don't black people tip?

[Kaneman]

That's right, I said it! I wanna know whats up with blackies not leaving a tip for personal services. I've waited tables at a couple different restaurants, I've got two friends that deliver pizza by night and my wife is a stylist, The overwhelming consensus is that black people are crappy tippers...if they leave you anything at all. In fact, the ONLY times I ever got snubbed on the tip waiting tables was by black people.

So if you're reading this and you're black post up because we want the truth!

[AquaPython]

and here...we...go

[marko138]

This outta be interesting. :jerry:

[RACER X]

wife found that out the hard way, working at pappadeaux, black folks like them some cajun food..........but don't tip + they like to make lemonade at the table + return more foods for "credit" then any other um color.

[tached1000rr]

I'm black and I tip ALWAYS so I can't help ya....

I'll be having dinner tonight with some of our other white TWF members later this evening so they can even vouch for me.:lol:

[Kaneman]

I'm black and I tip ALWAYS so I can't help ya....

LIAR!!!!

:lol:

[Rider]

Have you watched the opening scene from Reservoir Dogs? Some people just don't believe in tipping. BTW I went out to dinner the other night and left a $7 tip on a $24 bill. And yes she was young and hot.

[Homeslice]

When I waited tables is was the wealthy Latin American tourists who didn't tip.........apparently service workers were like dogs to them lol

[Kaneman]

Have you watched the opening scene from Reservoir Dogs? Some people just don't believe in tipping. BTW I went out to dinner the other night and left a $7 tip in a $24 bill. And yes she was young and hot.

Are you black? No? Then STFU!

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/goran74/AE/Picard2.jpg

[AquaPython]

Have you watched the opening scene from Reservoir Dogs? Some people just don't believe in tipping. BTW I went out to dinner the other night and left a $7 tip on a $24 bill. And yes she was young and hot.

7 bucks?!?!! holy shit you are a str8 BALLA son!!!!

how the fuck did that shorty NOT get in the car with you and INSTANEOUSLY juggle your balls and gargle your man butteR??!?1
i mean, 7 bucks, goddam!!11!!

[Kaneman]

7 bucks?!?!! holy shit you are a str8 BALLA son!!!!

how the fuck did that shorty NOT get in the car with you and INSTANEOUSLY juggle your balls and gargle your man butteR??!?1
i mean, 7 bucks, goddam!!11!!

:lol: Thanks dude, that's the hardest I've laughed all day.

[Rider]

Are you black? No? Then STFU!

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/goran74/AE/Picard2.jpg

:lol Love the pic.

[tached1000rr]

7 bucks?!?!! holy shit you are a str8 BALLA son!!!!

how the fuck did that shorty NOT get in the car with you and INSTANEOUSLY juggle your balls and gargle your man butteR??!?1
i mean, 7 bucks, goddam!!11!!

:lol

[Rider]

7 bucks?!?!! holy shit you are a str8 BALLA son!!!!

how the fuck did that shorty NOT get in the car with you and INSTANEOUSLY juggle your balls and gargle your man butteR??!?1
i mean, 7 bucks, goddam!!11!!

Girls don't' work that cheap in this town.

[neebelung]

:lol: Thanks dude, that's the hardest I've laughed all day.

snort

ditto here :dvrofl:

[Homeslice]

7 bucks?!?!! holy shit you are a str8 BALLA son!!!!

how the fuck did that shorty NOT get in the car with you and INSTANEOUSLY juggle your balls and gargle your man butteR??!?1
i mean, 7 bucks, goddam!!11!!

plus trill

I mean, $7 is only $2.20 above a 20% tip on a $24 tab

:ws:

[z06boy]

7 bucks?!?!! holy shit you are a str8 BALLA son!!!!

how the fuck did that shorty NOT get in the car with you and INSTANEOUSLY juggle your balls and gargle your man butteR??!?1
i mean, 7 bucks, goddam!!11!!

:dvrofl:

Both of my sisters used to be in the restaurant business and said the same thing...that for some reason most of their black customers either didn't tip or tipped less than the rest. :idk: Even a couple of black girls that worked there said the same thing. :lol:

[Rider]

plus trill

I mean, $7 is only $2.20 above a 20% tip on a $24 tab

:ws:

It's still 28% which is 100% better than some folks apparently.

[Kaneman]

It's still 28% which is 100% better than some folks apparently.

No, its 100% better than black folks, not some folks.

[pauldun170]

Growing up in a mixed race household, where sometimes I'd go out with the white side and other times with the blacks side

If the server was white
A. Treated differently than other non black people in the restaurant. No smile, no emotion whasoever. They were almost mechanical in the way they served us. If they screwed up the order or something wasn't right and my mother or stepfather said something there was a little attitude in the response. End result....crappy tip. This is a pretty conssitent thing whenever dealing with someone working in retail, whether cashier, salesperson or server. There is always that kinda cold atitude meanwhile the table next to us or the person in front of us on line in a store gets the smile, how are you and bubbly demeanor. Over time, you just expect it and end up nitpicking everything about the server.

That being said whenever I take family out, I handle the bill. I don't have that kind of baggage that older family member have.

2. Growing up in the typical poor, pay check to paycheck black household...it was an absolute rarity that we went out to restaurants. When we did go out (I can remember twice), it came down to tipping what you could afford to tip. Do it long enough and when you finally do have money you are just used to tipping smaller amounts (the notorious 5'ver. Wasn't till mid teens that we even knew about proper "tipping" guidelines. As a result, I've spent years overtipping trying to right the wrongs of the past.
3. Plain ignorance of tipping protocol.
4. The last I can think of is something that's not "black" but common in other parts of the world. "Your menu says my meal should cost X amount of dollars and that what I'm giving you. I'm not going to give you extra for doing your job".


Since we are having one of THOSE threads

How about Chinese? They'll tip...but they try and haggle for 4 hours.
Total = $50
"I give you $40...We call even!! Yes?"

What about the Italians? Those assholes....there could be line out the door and those people push all the way to the front. They then make a racket and complain about the tax.

What about US North East Jews?
I'm not touching that one.

[Rider]

No, its 100% better than black folks, not some folks.

No that would be infinite% It's 100% more than people who only pay ~15%. You went to public school didn't you?

[AquaPython]

i may be taken out by the klan for revealing this,
This is exactly why there are all the code words in the BIZ for black people -
"Oh no a table of 14 CANADIANS just sat down, i don't want that table , do you?"

etc etc

also, what about the tables that dont tip, mercilessly running around the server for worthless shit, like topping off water that 85% full, plates of finely cut lemons, extra napkins (to throw on the floor) , and then on top of no tip, leaving the biggest mess that takes a 5 person team to clean the table, sanitize the seats and sweep and mop the floor?!!? i think it is the strategy that if the table is in such general disarray that you are not even supposed to notice that there is no tip until you have shoveled through 1' layer of crap and are looking at a bleak tipless table to realize it. of course by that time, they are 20 minutes gone.

[pauldun170]

As for my peers (my age group) all the black people I know tip normally.

[Kaneman]

No that would be infinite% It's 100% more than people who only pay ~15%. You went to public school didn't you?

Yes I did, which is why....

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/angrymanFFS/WTF_Lightening.jpg

[shmike]

Yes I did, which is why....

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/angrymanFFS/WTF_Lightening.jpg


He is saying that $3.60 x 2 = $7.

Duh.

[AquaPython]

As for my peers (my age group) all the black people I know tip normally.
:wtfru:

[AquaPython]

rider -
it was funny stop trying to defend the math, its just digging the whole deeper.

[pauldun170]

:wtfru:

Oops...sorry.

All the black people I know tip poorly with their welfare cards singing "lordy thatwas some good chicken!!"

black people:
Natures Ninjas Need not tip

[Rider]

rider -
it was funny stop trying to defend the math, its just digging the whole deeper.

Are you calling yourself a lady because I don't see any other ladies in here. Well there is one anyone...

[Homeslice]

No, its 100% better than black folks, not some folks.

If someone tipped nothing, then 100% more than nothing is still nothing.

But if they tipped 15%, then 100% more than that would = 30%, which is close to Rider's 28%

[pauldun170]

If they tipped nothing, then 100% more than nothing still is nothing.

But if they tipped 15%, then 100% more than that would = 30%, which is close to Rider's 28%

I read you post and now want to begin an income tax discussion.

[Homeslice]

As for my peers (my age group) all the black people I know tip normally.

So they claim.

Also, you're in NY, where the animosity & income disparity between blacks & whites isn't as significant as it is down South

[Homeslice]

I read you post and now want to begin an income tax discussion.

tight as a mofo, let's do it

[pauldun170]

So they claim.

Also, you're in NY, where the animosities & income disparity between blacks & whites aren't as significant as down South

So they claim?

You misunderstand...

When I go out with friends....yadda yadda yadda....they tip appropriately.

[neebelung]

So they claim?

You misunderstand...

When I go out with friends....yadda yadda yadda....they tip appropriately.

I'm raising a bullshit flag here.












































There's no way you have friends. :lol:

[pauldun170]

I'm raising a bullshit flag here.


There's no way you have friends. :lol:

You just hurt my feelings.
I dont have many friends.
I'm a very lonely person.
A person with feelings.
Feelings you just hurt.

Thats ok though.
Nothing a little hot cocoa couldn't fix.
And a magazine.
Cause I have to read something to take my mind off the loneliness.

Now I have to go the bathroom.
by myself.

I have to wash your mean words off.


Actually...I just have to poop.

[Particle Man]

they didn't tip 'cuz they were afraid of your crazy-long thumbs dude.











redflip

[Fleck750]

i may be taken out by the klan for revealing this,
This is exactly why there are all the code words in the BIZ for black people -
"Oh no a table of 14 CANADIANS just sat down, i don't want that table , do you?"

etc etc

also, what about the tables that dont tip, mercilessly running around the server for worthless shit, like topping off water that 85% full, plates of finely cut lemons, extra napkins (to throw on the floor) , and then on top of no tip, leaving the biggest mess that takes a 5 person team to clean the table, sanitize the seats and sweep and mop the floor?!!? i think it is the strategy that if the table is in such general disarray that you are not even supposed to notice that there is no tip until you have shoveled through 1' layer of crap and are looking at a bleak tipless table to realize it. of course by that time, they are 20 minutes gone.
No, those would be the Wed. night church goers. :bash:

Take up your entire area for 3 hours, then you leave you a Bible pamphlet. :hangman:

This happened to my sister-in-law. She made it to the register before they left, and told them that a bible message wasn't going to feed her two kids and to shove it up their asses and never come back. :lmao:

Yes, she kept her job, and the rest of the staff, including the owner, applauded her. :lmao:

[HokieDNA01]

No, those would be the Wed. night church goers. :bash:

Take up your entire area for 3 hours, then you leave you a Bible pamphlet. :hangman:

This happened to my sister-in-law. She made it to the register before they left, and told them that a bible message wasn't going to feed her two kids and to shove it up their asses and never come back. :lmao:

Yes, she kept her job, and the rest of the staff, including the owner, applauded her. :lmao:

They are the WORST!!!!

[tommymac]

No, those would be the Wed. night church goers. :bash:

Take up your entire area for 3 hours, then you leave you a Bible pamphlet. :hangman:

This happened to my sister-in-law. She made it to the register before they left, and told them that a bible message wasn't going to feed her two kids and to shove it up their asses and never come back. :lmao:

Yes, she kept her job, and the rest of the staff, including the owner, applauded her. :lmao:

But were they black, that could drastically change the story :lol:

Tom

[pauldun170]

But were they black, that could drastically change the story :lol:

Tom

:lol:

[AquaPython]

yes fleck i have had that happen with both crowds.

[VatorMan]

Aussies and Europeans don't tip. They don't in their countries-so they carry that here. Overseas Americans are King because we DO tip.

[pauldun170]

Thought about this and came up with a tip test.

If you see black people posing for a picture, pay attention to who smiles for the picture and who does not.

No smile = crappy\no tipper
Half-assed awkward smile = Mediocre tipper
Genuine smile = Genuine tipper

[AquaPython]

that test only works for black people ??

[Smittie61984]

They're just getting back at Whitey.

Though this thread reminds me of some very racist/sexist/homophobic/mexican/whitey jokes I heard the other day and I remember one of them was "Why don't black people tip well". I can't recall the reply though.

I always heard the worst was families for tipping or at least not worth the tip you get for all the bullshit you have to deal with.

I couldn't be a server, especially after working my current job. I literally almost got into a fist fight with a guy plus we cussed each other out. The fucker called the company my company works for and got in contact with my boss. He told me and said "Next time hit him with a line hammer so I don't have to hear him bitch. I had to cuss him out for 5minutes before he hung up". I love my job (hate my pay).

[pauldun170]

that test only works for black people ??

I don't know.
hmmm

[Flexin]

As soon as someone called me blackie the tip would disappear. And maybe your rims.

I tip but its based on service. Give me great service I will tip well. I have tipped as high as 45% before.

We had one woman wait on us at Boston Pizza about 4 or 5 times in a row. She was amazing every time. We waited 10 minutes that last time to tell her boss how good she was. He said I know, thats why I'm going to marry her. We laughed but he wasn't joking. They were engaged.

James

[101lifts2]

Niggas be poooo

[Kaneman]

As soon as someone called me blackie the tip would disappear. And maybe your rims.


James

No its cool dude, two of my friends on Facebook are black.

[Flexin]

No its cool dude, two of my friends on Facebook are black.

Damn man. Why didn't you put that disclaimer in the first post? I was about to pop a cap in someones ass.

Pass the watermelon and carry on.

James

[neebelung]

:dvrofl: :dvrofl: :dvrofl:

You just hurt my feelings.
I dont have many friends.
I'm a very lonely person.
A person with feelings.
Feelings you just hurt.

Thats ok though.
Nothing a little hot cocoa couldn't fix.
And a magazine.
Cause I have to read something to take my mind off the loneliness.

Now I have to go the bathroom.
by myself.

I have to wash your mean words off.


Actually...I just have to poop.

[Amber Lamps]

Man I had a long day at work... so what's going on?:idk:

[Flexin]

Man I had a long day at work... so what's going on?:idk:

With you not on, are numbers were down, so the whites started to run wild.

James

[Homeslice]

TIGGER is white too :idk:

One drop rule works both ways

[Kaneman]

With you not on, are numbers were down, so the whites started to run wild.

James

hahahahahaha. Oh shit dude.

[Amber Lamps]

With you not on, are numbers were down, so the whites started to run wild.

James

Fuckin' honkies!!! It's always something.

Okay black people don't tip because when you kidnapped us from our native land and forced us to work under the whip, and subsequently freed us. You forgot to explain things like "tipping", being quiet in theaters, using condoms, using our "inside voices", closing our mouths and not talking when we eat, "belts" and how to properly size pants/clothing, etc. Slowly, some of us are catching up but I fear that it may be a while....

That and we barely had the money to eat out in the first place, forget about drinks and tips. You have to admit, when niggas gots money dey ain't afeared o' spending dat shit!!!

You have have priories though,

1. RIMS
2. LOUD STEREO
3. Jewelry
a. chains
b. rings
c. teeth
d. chains
e. diamond earrings
4. WEED
5. Blunts (see #4)
6. Designer Clothes
7. Shoes to match...2 prrr...
8. Hat to match, stickers still attached.
9. Diapers
10. Food
11. Cable
12. Rent
13. Other bills
14-1,435,679 other stuff
1,435,680 Tipping Some White Bitch!

[Tmall]

Comedy gold here the last couple days.. :lol

[askmrjesus]

Though this thread reminds me of some very racist/sexist/homophobic/mexican/whitey jokes I heard the other day and I remember one of them was "Why don't black people tip well". I can't recall the reply though.

Thanks for sharing.

Here's a tip for you:

If you don't know the punchline, don't tell the joke. :lol:

Fucking amateurs.

JC

[fnfalman]

First of all, I wanna say that I'm half black (the bottom half). I tip quite well, especially with the hot bitches.

[neebelung]

Tigger, dude, you're about as black as I am Mexican... I'm just sayin... :lol:

[HokieDNA01]

Fuckin' honkies!!! It's always something.

Okay black people don't tip because when you kidnapped us from our native land and forced us to work under the whip, and subsequently freed us. You forgot to explain things like "tipping", being quiet in theaters, using condoms, using our "inside voices", closing our mouths and not talking when we eat, "belts" and how to properly size pants/clothing, etc. Slowly, some of us are catching up but I fear that it may be a while....

That and we barely had the money to eat out in the first place, forget about drinks and tips. You have to admit, when niggas gots money dey ain't afeared o' spending dat shit!!!

You have have priories though,

1. RIMS
2. LOUD STEREO
3. Jewelry
a. chains
b. rings
c. teeth
d. chains
e. diamond earrings
4. WEED
5. Blunts (see #4)
6. Designer Clothes
7. Shoes to match...2 prrr...
8. Hat to match, stickers still attached.
9. Diapers
10. Food
11. Cable
12. Rent
13. Other bills
14-1,435,679 other stuff
1,435,680 Tipping Some White Bitch!

OMG I'm dying!!! :lol

[Flexin]

First of all, I wanna say that I'm half black (the bottom half). I tip quite well, especially with the hot bitches.

So you have ashy knees? Put some cream on then after the shower and keep a travel sized one in your car just in case they get dry during the day.

James

[Amber Lamps]

So you have ashy knees? Put some cream on then after the shower and keep a travel sized one in your car just in case they get dry during the day.

James

I wonder if he has "Brazil-nut Toes"...with the funky toe nail.:panic:

[Amber Lamps]

Tigger, dude, you're about as black as I am Mexican... I'm just sayin... :lol:

Hey if you choose to deny part of your ethnic background, that's your prerogative. I honestly try to embrace all facets of my background as fully as possible OR deny them all equally, depending on my mood!

[neebelung]

Hey if you choose to deny part of your ethnic background, that's your prerogative. I honestly try to embrace all facets of my background as fully as possible OR deny them all equally, depending on my mood!

:rofl: :rofl:



In truth, I probably embrace the Mexican 25% more tha my other 75%. :shrug:

[Quick281]

Aussies and Europeans don't tip. They don't in their countries-so they carry that here. Overseas Americans are King because we DO tip.

Many times it is automatically included or the servers are just plain better payed.

[Fleck750]

Tig, congrats on the job.

[LeeNetworX]

You just hurt my feelings.
I dont have many friends.
I'm a very lonely person.
A person with feelings.
Feelings you just hurt.

Thats ok though.
Nothing a little hot cocoa couldn't fix.
And a magazine.
Cause I have to read something to take my mind off the loneliness.

Now I have to go the bathroom.
by myself.

I have to wash your mean words off.


Actually...I just have to poop.

I like you, buddy. http://smiliesftw.com/x/e5chug.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

[neebelung]

I like you, buddy. http://smiliesftw.com/x/e5chug.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

Don't hug him too tightly: might squeeze the poop outta him. :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Tig, congrats on the job.

Thanks! I brought home a grand exactly last week. Not too shabby, now I just need to find an Airoh helmet dealer....:lol:

[Tsunami]

Thanks! I brought home a grand exactly last week. Not too shabby, now I just need to find an Airoh helmet dealer....:lol:

Whats the new job??

[Fleck750]

Thanks! I brought home a grand exactly last week. Not too shabby, now I just need to find an Airoh helmet dealer....:lol:

That's 700 more than I did at my job.

I love recessions. :hangman:

[Amber Lamps]

Whats the new job??


I took a job installing security systems for ADT... Nothing fancy but it's easy (although a bit frustrating) and there's money to be made. The office that I'm in is almost entirely new people so there are some growing pains but hopefully they will be worked out soon.

People are really paranoid these days! Besides, it really is a decent system if only to protect your pet from fire when you're not home. I definitely don't think that I'm doing the "Lord's work" or anything but I do feel that we provide an important service that can potentially save lives and property.:idk:

[Amber Lamps]

That's 700 more than I did at my job.

I love recessions. :hangman:


That's the funny thing about some industries... they seem to boom during times of economic turmoil. Security systems seem to be one of them to an extent. I guess some people use these times to excuse a life of crime.:idk: If you're shoplifting bread from Walmart to feed your family- I feel sorry for you. If you're breaking into my house to steal my TV to buy crack, well if I don't shoot you, I hope that you rot in prison!!!:panic:

[Smittie61984]

Thanks for sharing.

Here's a tip for you:

If you don't know the punchline, don't tell the joke. :lol:

Fucking amateurs.

JC

I figured you'd know.

I'm a Smith which I think is greek for Mutt. My ancestors fucked everything before we killed it so odds are I have some black, asian, indian, native american, eskimo, and other undiscovered or extinct civilizations in me.

[Amber Lamps]

I figured you'd know.

I'm a Smith which I think is greek for Mutt. My ancestors fucked everything before we killed it so odds are I have some black, asian, indian, native american, eskimo, and other undiscovered or extinct civilizations in me.

Our family crest is "nos inexpugnabilis quisquam"- we will impregnate anything!!!

[Fleck750]

I took a job installing security systems for ADT...
Small world. Use to make the systems for ADT. :D

Digital Monitoring Products in Springfield, MO makes them. :cool:

[pauldun170]

I figured you'd know.

I'm a Smith which I think is greek for Mutt. My ancestors fucked everything before we killed it so odds are I have some black, asian, indian, native american, eskimo, and other undiscovered or extinct civilizations in me.

Spoken like the whitest person in the room talking to the one minority in the room.

I do give you credit....most just leave it at "I have native American in my blood"


FYI: It's not who your ancestors fucked..
Its "who was fucking your ancestors."

[Fleck750]

I will readily admit the Indian in me before I will the French heritage. :lol:

[101lifts2]

Spoken like the whitest person in the room talking to the one minority in the room.

I do give you credit....most just leave it at "I have native American in my blood"


FYI: It's not who your ancestors fucked..
Its "who was fucking your ancestors."

Are you going somewhere with this homeboy?

[pauldun170]

Are you going somewhere with this homeboy?

No boss
Iza jes sittin here waitin to shine sum shoes
I wuzzun lookin at no white lady
I swear

[pauldun170]

Are you going somewhere with this homeboy?

I know
I know

You are all offended because you have some indian in ya
He's in ya every tuesday and sunday nights

BA-DOOM-TISH

[Homeslice]

Hats off to the mixed breeds in here

They are cooler and hipper than the "vanilla whites"

According to Hollywood that is

[tommymac]

Hats off to the mixed breeds in here

They are cooler and hipper than the "vanilla whites"

According to Hollywood that is

hey I am prety fly for a white guy :rockwoot: :lol:

Tom

[Homeslice]

hey I am prety fly for a white guy :rockwoot: :lol:

Tom

But you can't dress, can't dance, can't act anything but nerdy, and can't pick up women.........According to Hollywood that is.

[tommymac]

But you can't dress, can't dance, can't act anything but nerdy, and can't pick up women.........According to Hollywood that is.

well the first parts are right unless you consider moshing dancing :lol: and I think my fiancee would get pissed if I were out pickin up women.

Then again I dont give a shit about hollywood since I dont watch much tv aside from sports or racing shows and hardley ever go to the movies.

tom

[racedoll]

I'm black and I tip ALWAYS so I can't help ya....

I'll be having dinner tonight with some of our other white TWF members later this evening so they can even vouch for me.:lol:

Unless thirdgen can vouch for you, I am gonna have to leave you hanging. I was too wrapped up in talking with Kia that I didn't pay attention. Sorry.

[Rangerscott]

I'm a whitey but I have Choctaw, Irish, and I think Czechoslovakia. O ya, I also have Texan in me. The hick accent really covers these up.

My head hair is brown, but my beard is red as the autumn leaves. Its crazy.

[tached1000rr]

Unless thirdgen can vouch for you, I am gonna have to leave you hanging. I was too wrapped up in talking with Kia that I didn't pay attention. Sorry.

Thirdgen has eaten at restaurants with me about 4-5 times now at least

[Fleck750]

I'm a whitey but I have Choctaw, Irish, and I think Czechoslovakia. O ya, I also have Texan in me. The hick accent really covers these up.

My head hair is brown, but my beard is red as the autumn leaves. Its crazy.

Except for the Choctaw, the rest of them are Caucasian.

Doesn't matter what you have in you, heritage is no excuse for bad manners.

[Papa_Complex]

I always found that it was wealthy Americans who were tight fisted with the money. No tips, always arguing about the exchange rates.....

[tached1000rr]

Unless thirdgen can vouch for you, I am gonna have to leave you hanging. I was too wrapped up in talking with Kia that I didn't pay attention. Sorry.

Give me some credit, I gave your hubby a $5 tip on that tank bra!

[wildchild]

No, those would be the Wed. night church goers. :bash:

Take up your entire area for 3 hours, then you leave you a Bible pamphlet. :hangman:

This happened to my sister-in-law. She made it to the register before they left, and told them that a bible message wasn't going to feed her two kids and to shove it up their asses and never come back. :lmao:

Yes, she kept her job, and the rest of the staff, including the owner, applauded her. :lmao:

while we have probably all had to deal with that situation at one time or another, if I were the owner I would have let your sister go while they were there. they will definitely go home and begin telling their friends how terribly rude the server was. Yes it sucks they feel that is a tip to "bring you to the Lord" but it is a TIP not a required amount to be paid.

[wildchild]

Damn man. Why didn't you put that disclaimer in the first post? I was about to pop a cap in someones ass.

Pass the watermelon and carry on.

James

LOL it wouldn't work for him anyways, they're not some of his best friends. LOL

[racedoll]

Give me some credit, I gave your hubby a $5 tip on that tank bra!

I know. I just have to give you a hard time.

[Rangerscott]

Except for the Choctaw, the rest of them are Caucasian.

Doesn't matter what you have in you, heritage is no excuse for bad manners.


What if i run around naked yelling that Im an alien. Then can I tip poorly?


I dont tip the 15%. I tip what I think you deserve. Bad waiter, bad tip. Good waiter, good tip. I do have eyes so I can tell if your actaully bsuy with other customers, I wont hold that against you, but if your standing in the corner chatting about how great your hair looks or hitting on your customers then I will hold it against you. Im paying you to serve me, not get laid.

[azoomm]

I always found that it was wealthy Americans who were tight fisted with the money. No tips, always arguing about the exchange rates.....

How do you think they became "wealthy" in this economy? :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

How do you think they became "wealthy" in this economy? :lol:

This was long before "this economy" ;)

In the past such people have told me that getting money isn't the problem, because it's something that anyone can do. KEEPING the money is how you become wealthy.

[Rider]

How do you think they became "wealthy" in this economy? :lol:

They don't blow it on XBox360's or 22" rims, or 10 - 12" sub woofers, or lottery ticks. Their money gets invested wisely.

[unknownroad]

In the past such people have told me that getting money isn't the problem, because it's something that anyone can do. KEEPING the money is how you become wealthy.

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bill Gates has hired goons beat up Homer and steal his idea. "You don't get to be the richest man in the world by writing a bunch of checks!" :dthumb:

[Papa_Complex]

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bill Gates has hired goons beat up Homer and steal his idea. "You don't get to be the richest man in the world by writing a bunch of checks!" :dthumb:

"Buy 'em out boys!"

[Scot]

when I worked for tips it wasn't limited to race. It was limited to income. At least in my area it was. Wealthier, upper middle class families (and up) tipped almost nothing. it was like it was beneath them. They're buy food from my restaurant...so that should suffice. It keeps me employed.

People who were in the lower class (blue collar...people who came in still dirty from a day's work) tipped very well and were very appreciative of me. I'm guessing they'd spent their days getting ordered around for peanuts and knew how I felt.

[Fleck750]

What if i run around naked yelling that Im an alien. Then can I tip poorly?


Depends how big your dick is. :lmao:

[Rider]

Depends how big your dick is. :lmao:

Because tip size is inversely proportionate to your dick size? Wow, no wonder why blacks don't tip. :lol

[Fleck750]

Because tip size is inversely proportionate to your dick size? Wow, no wonder why blacks don't tip. :lol


I'll just take the whitey and the money, please. :bonk:

[Smittie61984]

Spoken like the whitest person in the room talking to the one minority in the room.


Are you black or something? Damn, can't you get a joke? Ever occured to you that a white person could know more about black people than black people. Probably felt you deserved at least a C in Black History for being black (if you are).

[Fleck750]

:jerry:

[LeeNetworX]

I will readily admit the Indian in me before I will the French heritage. :lol:

We understand.

[pauldun170]

Are you black or something? Damn, can't you get a joke? Ever occured to you that a white person could know more about black people than black people. Probably felt you deserved at least a C in Black History for being black (if you are).

Ever occurred to you that a non-white person could know more about white people than white people?

Damn you people are predictable.

I hate you white people SO MUCH.

[Amber Lamps]

They don't blow it on XBox360's or 22" rims, or 10 - 12" sub woofers, or lottery ticks. Their money gets invested wisely.

hey I have a PS3, 20" rims and 10" subwoofers... I've never bought any type of lottery ticket if that counts... not all of us Negros are stupid you know. FWIW I mainly bought the 20s because new tires for the stock 18" rims would have cost over $600 and I got rims and tires for $800 in 20" so nyah, nyah, nyah whitey!!!:lol:

[t-homo]

lol my little sister is taking african american studies in college this semester.

[Amorok]

I deliver pizza three days a week in Mississippi. We have a lot black people here, and they don't tip fuck-all. Additionally, the black tech school students on base from all over the country don't tip. The black delivery drivers where I work bitch about taking deliveries to black people because they know they aren't getting shit. My boss is black and when we have this conversation he tells me how he tips every time and that no all black people are like that. We went to a going away luncheon today - guess who didn't tip. My old supervisor put it simply a while back when he said "Of course they don't tip - you owe them something."

I had a black guy argue with me about tipping once on a run. I pulled up to his 250k house with an Escalade, a Mercedes and a BMW parked out front, the house I had to drive five miles and twenty minutes to one way in 1700 traffic. He walked to the door and on an order that was $26 and something handed me exact change, then said "That's all you, playa." It had been a long day so I said "Hey, thanks for the tip pal." He got real frosty and told me in no uncertain terms that my tip was included in the price. I told the guy that no, my tip is not in fact included with the order price. There's a two dollar delivery charge of which 38 cents is mine to cover my gas, as well as 4.5% of your total order price. I work for minimum wage and by the way, we're on a split wage so for the 40 minutes I'm on the delivery to your faraway mansion I'm actually working for $2.50 an hour, and in spite of you being a complete ass clown your pizza was hot and at your door in half he time we quoted you, and do you really fucking think I did all that for $1.55 when gas is $5 a gallon? He started getting really pissed so I let him run on for a minute and then told him not to order from us any more. He still can't and this was forever ago.

And as for being poor, if you can't afford three dollars for the pizza guy then you don't need to spend thirty dollars to have it delivered. Save some money and eat hamburger helper or come get it your goddam self.

[Tsunami]

I deliver pizza three days a week in Mississippi. We have a lot black people here, and they don't tip fuck-all. Additionally, the black tech school students on base from all over the country don't tip. The black delivery drivers where I work bitch about taking deliveries to black people because they know they aren't getting shit. My boss is black and when we have this conversation he tells me how he tips every time and that no all black people are like that. We went to a going away luncheon today - guess who didn't tip. My old supervisor put it simply a while back when he said "Of course they don't tip - you owe them something."

I had a black guy argue with me about tipping once on a run. I pulled up to his 250k house with an Escalade, a Mercedes and a BMW parked out front, the house I had to drive five miles and twenty minutes to one way in 1700 traffic. He walked to the door and on an order that was $26 and something handed me exact change, then said "That's all you, playa." It had been a long day so I said "Hey, thanks for the tip pal." He got real frosty and told me in no uncertain terms that my tip was included in the price. I told the guy that no, my tip is not in fact included with the order price. There's a two dollar delivery charge of which 38 cents is mine to cover my gas, as well as 4.5% of your total order price. I work for minimum wage and by the way, we're on a split wage so for the 40 minutes I'm on the delivery to your faraway mansion I'm actually working for $2.50 an hour, and in spite of you being a complete ass clown your pizza was hot and at your door in half he time we quoted you, and do you really fucking think I did all that for $1.55 when gas is $5 a gallon? He started getting really pissed so I let him run on for a minute and then told him not to order from us any more. He still can't and this was forever ago.

And as for being poor, if you can't afford three dollars for the pizza guy then you don't need to spend thirty dollars to have it delivered. Save some money and eat hamburger helper or come get it your goddam self.

You need a different second job.

[Amorok]

You need a different second job.

You're not kidding. I fucking hate dealing with the public, I despise traffic and I hate driving anything that doesn't require a helmet. I'm working on getting a night monior job, that'll be better. The money will be better too.

[Homeslice]

"That's all you, playa."

:lmao:

[Smittie61984]

Ever occurred to you that a non-white person could know more about white people than white people?

Damn you people are predictable.

I hate you white people SO MUCH.

We're using caucasian now. White is too racist.

Curious about something. You said "It's not who your ancestors fucked but who fucked your ancestors". Would that mean if it came to pass that President Obama's dad raped his mom that Obama would not be the first black president?

[CrazyKell]

I really don't believe in tipping. Sorry...but I think it's a load of bullshit.

But....it's what you do and even though I don't believe in the system, I know that not tipping isn't going to change the system. :shrug:

[Smittie61984]

I really don't believe in tipping. Sorry...but I think it's a load of bullshit.

But....it's what you do and even though I don't believe in the system, I know that not tipping isn't going to change the system. :shrug:

Severs I understand. They only make a minimum wage of I think $2.30 an hour or so tipping is how they make money. But I'm not tipping the Moe's jar or your Subway style fastish food restaurants.

[Amber Lamps]

lol my little sister is taking african american studies in college this semester.

What does that mean? That she's fucking the basketball team?!?!?!?:lol:

When she brings home a little mulatto baby, is she going to tell your parents that it's extra credit?:lol:

Is she going to have to take field trips into the ghetto?:lol:

[Sean]

I tip.

[Tsunami]

I tip.

You're not black.

[Sean]

You're not black.

Aah, touche'.

[Papa_Complex]

What does that mean? That she's fucking the basketball team?!?!?!?:lol:

When she brings home a little mulatto baby, is she going to tell your parents that it's extra credit?:lol:

Is she going to have to take field trips into the ghetto?:lol:

It's a survival course. They issue a flak vest and AK, then turn them loose in Compton at 3:00am.

[tommymac]

It's a survival course. They issue a flak vest and AK, then turn them loose in Compton at 3:00am.

Wonder if I can get credit for that since I work in an ineer city ER in BK in an area just as nice as compton.

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Wonder if I can get credit for that since I work in an ineer city ER in BK in an area just as nice as compton.

Tom

Ten years of experience "in the field" counts as a degree, if you're going for a Free Trade Visa.

[tommymac]

Ten years of experience "in the field" counts as a degree, if you're going for a Free Trade Visa.

Well I have almost 7 in the ER and 2 more of schooling there since the PA program I went to is part of the hospital so I just need one more year.

Now what will a free trade visa get me :lol:

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Well I have almost 7 in the ER and 2 more of schooling there since the PA program I went to is part of the hospital so I just need one more year.

Now what will a free trade visa get me :lol:

Tom

It'll get you a job working an ER in Scarborough, Ontario. Pepper spray will be provided.

[tommymac]

It'll get you a job working an ER in Scarborough, Ontario. Pepper spray will be provided.

Bad area I assume? pepper spray is nothing we need full kevlar down here.


had a pt the other night who got maced and spent 4 days in central booking, of course she wants to sue the NYPD and everyone else. If I had pepper spray I prolly would have sprayed her too for being such a moron. What was worse was she had 4 kids that were totally out of control, cant wait to see what kind of fine upstanding citizens they turn into.

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Bad area I assume? pepper spray is nothing we need full kevlar down here.


had a pt the other night who got maced and spent 4 days in central booking, of course she wants to sue the NYPD and everyone else. If I had pepper spray I prolly would have sprayed her too for being such a moron. What was worse was she had 4 kids that were totally out of control, cant wait to see what kind of fine upstanding citizens they turn into.

Tom

Gang area.

Full Kevlar is optional; it can reduce your running speed substantially. Cover is recommended.

[tommymac]

Gang area.

Full Kevlar is optional; it can reduce your running speed substantially. Cover is recommended.

I am a big white guy, I cant run anyway :lol:

Tom

[wildchild]

I am a big white guy, I cant run anyway :lol:

Tom

tommy is the guy you want to be with if you're ever attacked by a bear. :lol

don't outrun the bear just tommymac................couldn't resist.

[tommymac]

tommy is the guy you want to be with if you're ever attacked by a bear. :lol

don't outrun the bear just tommymac................couldn't resist.

I iwll kick the bears ass anyway :rockwoot:

Tom

[HurricaneHeather]

I really don't believe in tipping. Sorry...but I think it's a load of bullshit.

But....it's what you do and even though I don't believe in the system, I know that not tipping isn't going to change the system. :shrug:

So that means you don't ever go out to eat, right? You realize those people(at least in America) make $2.15 an hour?

Talk about a load of bullshit.

[Kaneman]

I really don't believe in tipping. Sorry...but I think it's a load of bullshit.

But....it's what you do and even though I don't believe in the system, I know that not tipping isn't going to change the system. :shrug:

So you'd rather restaurants pay their servers $12+ an hour plus benefits to give them a comparable salary? That way you can pay 3X as much for your meal instead of leaving a decent 20% tip. Unless of course you have a better idea....?

Or I guess they could just get paid minimum wage. Just imagine the quality of service you'd get then...it would pretty much take all the fun out of going out to eat.

For real people, if you're too fucking cheap to leave a tip then don't go out, don't order food and don't get any personal service. You can be the ones to deal with Indian customer service and automated call lines.

[marko138]

lol my little sister is taking african american studies in college this semester.

I took "History of African American music" in college. I got a D. No lie. :cheers:

[Rider]

I took "History of African American music" in college. I got a D. No lie. :cheers:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2lcp4c9.jpg

[marko138]

http://i38.tinypic.com/2lcp4c9.jpg
Well if that was all the course information I might have done a little better.

[tommymac]

I took "History of African American music" in college. I got a D. No lie. :cheers:

I took a history of rock music class, nice way to boost the GPA :rockwoot:

[marko138]

I took a history of rock music class, nice way to boost the GPA :rockwoot:
I took that too. Got an A. Hmmm....makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[HokieDNA01]

I had the girl at Publix (grocery store) offer to take my stuff out to my car. I didn't really want her too but she had already started pushing my cart out the door. I didn't have any small bills so I gave her a $5. Didn't really want to but hey the holidays are coming up and every little bit helps.

I also left a $50 tip on a $7 meal at waffle house last year on Easter cause the waitress was talking to her co-workers about how sad she couldn't spend it with her kids cause she had to work a double shift to pay rent. Felt good!

[z06boy]

So that means you don't ever go out to eat, right? You realize those people(at least in America) make $2.15 an hour?

Talk about a load of bullshit.

I hope she never eats at the same place twice...can only imagine what may be in her food if she does. :whatwhat:

Note to self...never eat at same table with CrazyKell if she's ever been to that restaurant before. :lol: :lol:

[Kaneman]

I had the girl at Publix (grocery store) offer to take my stuff out to my car. I didn't really want her too but she had already started pushing my cart out the door. I didn't have any small bills so I gave her a $5. Didn't really want to but hey the holidays are coming up and every little bit helps.

I also left a $50 tip on a $7 meal at waffle house last year on Easter cause the waitress was talking to her co-workers about how sad she couldn't spend it with her kids cause she had to work a double shift to pay rent. Felt good!

Goddamn socialist!!! =P

[Papa_Complex]

For the people ripping on Kell: She said that she doesn't believe in tipping, BUT DOES IT ANYWAY.

[Kaneman]

For the people ripping on Kell: She said that she doesn't believe in tipping, BUT DOES IT ANYWAY.

But one could easily assume she gives the bare minimum...

[Tmall]

If they're only making 2 an hour, that's their problem.

I always say that its to your employer to pay your wage. If I give you extra, that's a bonus. If you're dependant on my kindness to make a living, you better pour on the charm and go that extra mile. If not, looks like its 2 an hour for you. And my conscience WILL be fine with it.

[Kaneman]

If they're only making 2 an hour, that's their problem.

I always say that its to your employer to pay your wage. If I give you extra, that's a bonus. If you're dependant on my kindness to make a living, you better pour on the charm and go that extra mile. If not, looks like its 2 an hour for you. And my conscience WILL be fine with it.


So you're ok with paying $25 for a burger right?

[HurricaneHeather]

For the people ripping on Kell: She said that she doesn't believe in tipping, BUT DOES IT ANYWAY.

She never said that.

[HurricaneHeather]

So you're ok with paying $25 for a burger right?

I hope all servers in Canada would go on strike. :lol:

[Tmall]

No, I'm not fine with a 25 dollar burger. Grasping at straws to prove a point? Its not going to happen.


If you are dumb enough to take a job paying 2 an hour. I'm mean enough to not give a shit if it doesn't cover your bills.

[Papa_Complex]

But one could easily assume she gives the bare minimum...

That would be assuming something that wasn't stated and is likely incorrect. you lot are beating on her for something that she didn't say.

For myself, I understand that tipping is how a server makes ends meet, however, I feel no obligation to ALWAYS give a tip. If the service was non existent, then there is no tip. I have had servers who were surly, slow, and inept. That usually earns a tip that brings it up to the next dollar, so I can get out of the place without waiting for change. OTOH I'm a notorious OVER-tipper, when the service is good. A 25% tip is the norm; better for exemplary service. Hell, if I'm in The Waffle House I plunk down a twenty for a $10.00 cheque.

One thing that really annoys me, that I've run into in upscale restaurants or when the party is 8 or more people, is the *enforced* tip placed right on the bill. Those people get burnt because they don't get a penny more from me. There's a reason why it's referred to as a 'gratuity', rather than a 'mandatory.'

[Kaneman]

No, I'm not fine with a 25 dollar burger. Grasping at straws to prove a point? Its not going to happen.


If you are dumb enough to take a job paying 2 an hour. I'm mean enough to not give a shit if it doesn't cover your bills.

Its not a job paying $2 an hour, its a job that relies on tips. No server actually makes $2 an hour.

Anyone who values the experience of going out to eat and being waited on while eating good food should realize the tip system is the best way to accomplish that goal.

[Tmall]

Ppl bringing me my food should realize they chose that profession. Not me.

You will never change my mind...

[CrazyKell]

So that means you don't ever go out to eat, right? You realize those people(at least in America) make $2.15 an hour?

Talk about a load of bullshit.

I guess only Papa Complex got that I still tip (and well). I don't believe in a lot of systems but still participate in them.

I tip and I tip well. I'm kind to servers and understand their job as I've done it. I probably tip more than most for good service. But I'm not going to participate in an online pissing match becuase you don't understand what I wrote. :skep: Is this why you made such a great server? :td:

So you'd rather restaurants pay their servers $12+ an hour plus benefits to give them a comparable salary? That way you can pay 3X as much for your meal instead of leaving a decent 20% tip. Unless of course you have a better idea....?

Or I guess they could just get paid minimum wage. Just imagine the quality of service you'd get then...it would pretty much take all the fun out of going out to eat.

For real people, if you're too fucking cheap to leave a tip then don't go out, don't order food and don't get any personal service. You can be the ones to deal with Indian customer service and automated call lines.

I'm not cheap and like I said before I tip and tip well.

In Canada servers make minimum wage. I understand that it's different in the States so when I'm in the States I tip even more (my usual is 20% in Canada but I definitely up that in the States).

I just think the whole concept is weird. You don't tip the cashier at Walmart yet they make the same amount (in Canada). Or how about at Subway when they have a tip jar? :scratch: I think it's an odd system yet like I said before I TIP!

For the people ripping on Kell: She said that she doesn't believe in tipping, BUT DOES IT ANYWAY.

Thank you. And PC's been out to eat with me. I don't remember getting the spitty burger but maybe he got it. :lmao:

[Papa_Complex]

I wondered why that stir-fry tasted like tobacco.

[CrazyKell]

She never said that.

I'm sorry that I didn't spell it out.

I realize that servers don't make a lot of money and I know that tipping is part of the deal.

Shitty service = shitty tip :idk:

Average service = average tip

Stellar service = very good tip

Is that clear enough for the naysayers?

[Flexin]

So you're ok with paying $25 for a burger right?

If they are willing to work for the hopes of getting 20% on a order, then how will a burger jump to $25 if the the employer had to pay the staff?

I understand that there will be other cost to the employer but it would not make the cost of a burger $25.

James

[unknownroad]

i may be taken out by the klan for revealing this,
This is exactly why there are all the code words in the BIZ for black people -
"Oh no a table of 14 CANADIANS just sat down, i don't want that table , do you?"

I really don't believe in tipping. Sorry...but I think it's a load of bullshit.


I always say that its to your employer to pay your wage. If I give you extra, that's a bonus. If you're dependant on my kindness to make a living, you better pour on the charm and go that extra mile. If not, looks like its 2 an hour for you. And my conscience WILL be fine with it.


For myself, I understand that tipping is how a server makes ends meet, however, I feel no obligation to ALWAYS give a tip.

:lol

[Kaneman]

Ppl bringing me my food should realize they chose that profession. Not me.

You will never change my mind...

Not trying to, I just like to argue.

The tip is what gets you stellar service when you go out to eat, its not because people enjoy bringing you food. If restaurants start paying minimum wage to get away from the tip system you are going to get the absolute worst service any time you go out to eat or go to the bar.

[z06boy]

I wasn't ripping or beating on anyone...just responding to a post as to how I took it...either not tipping or tipping at a minimum. :idk:

Thanks for clearing that up.

Just to get one thing straight...tipping is to be earned...no doubt. Crappy service or a nasty attitude = little to no tip...plain and simple.

Good service = good tip...that's just the way it is in the US for most at least.

I also get tired of seeing tip jars everywhere in places that one used to not even tip in the first place.

[HurricaneHeather]

:lol

I'm so glad I am not the only one who saw the irony in that. :lol:

[z06boy]

I'm so glad I am not the only one who saw the irony in that. :lol:

:lol: You weren't.

[CrazyKell]

The tip is what gets you stellar service when you go out to eat, its not because people enjoy bringing you food. If restaurants start paying minimum wage to get away from the tip system you are going to get the absolute worst service any time you go out to eat or go to the bar.

Ya I totally see that. But the problem with tipping is that it comes after the meal. Lots of servers are crap at their job and then expect a good tip. A good tip is for good servers. :idk:

[CrazyKell]

Oh Canadians get ripped on for not tipping (in the States at least) all the time. That's because in Canada servers make minimum wage PLUS tips. So they get paid way more than someone who just makes minimum wage and is probably why a lot of Canadians don't tip as much. Fyi.

[HurricaneHeather]

Oh Canadians get ripped on for not tipping (in the States at least) all the time. That's because in Canada servers make minimum wage PLUS tips. So they get paid way more than someone who just makes minimum wage and is probably why a lot of Canadians don't tip as much. Fyi.

Yeah we don't care...we are still laughing. :D

[marko138]

Fuck those tip jars. I'm not into those suckas.

[tommymac]

Fuck those tip jars. I'm not into those suckas.

Dunkin donuts by the hospital has one and I took change out to pay for my coffee, boy were they pissed. :lol:


Tom

[z06boy]

Fuck those tip jars. I'm not into those suckas.


:cheers:

[marko138]

Dunkin donuts by the hospital has one and I took change out to pay for my coffee, boy were they pissed. :lol:


Tom
:lol Nice move.

[CrazyKell]

Yeah we don't care...we are still laughing. :D

What's the difference between a Canadian and a Canoe?

A canoe tips!

There ya go....just to keep the laughter going. :D

[Flexin]

I'm sorry that I didn't spell it out.

I realize that servers don't make a lot of money and I know that tipping is part of the deal.

Shitty service = shitty tip :idk:

Average service = average tip

Stellar service = very good tip

Is that clear enough for the naysayers?

I agree. People look at people and say this person looks like a good tipper and this one doesn't. Maybe they are pre judging the customer before getting to the table and then treating them poorly because they expect a poor tip.

If you work for tips or commission (which I do) always give amazing service. You might not get a great tip that time (some people are cheap, some are just assholes) but if you always treat that person great each and every time they might change. Also your other tables can see how your treating that table as well.

A tip is earned.

James

[Apoc]

Maybe, just maybe, if your a waiter and cant make ends meet without tips, then you should get another job.

Waiters up here are paid minimum wage by law. They do get tips (eastern canadians tip well), but if you have to rely on it, find something else.

No way i'd work for 2 dollars and hour, thats just a bit better than slavery.

[Flexin]

Not trying to, I just like to argue.

The tip is what gets you stellar service when you go out to eat, its not because people enjoy bringing you food. If restaurants start paying minimum wage to get away from the tip system you are going to get the absolute worst service any time you go out to eat or go to the bar.

You have that backwards. Steller service is what gets you a great tip. You know your wage when you apply for a job. You negotiate a wage. When you agree to that you do your job for that amount.

With serving tables you don't negotiate your pay before you start. You work hard to earn a great pay. Not everyone has the same pay scale just like other jobs.

If you want a set pay you have to take a job paying one. If you want the "chance" to make more you take a job paying tips or commission.

James

[RACER X]

James, what r you doing now?

[tommymac]

Maybe, just maybe, if your a waiter and cant make ends meet without tips, then you should get another job.

Waiters up here are paid minimum wage by law. They do get tips (eastern canadians tip well), but if you have to rely on it, find something else.

No way i'd work for 2 dollars and hour, thats just a bit better than slavery.

Funny thing is some of the wait staff in the high end restaurants make some damn good money waiting tables but thye know their stuff about the food and beverages. And do have to kiss some ass but thats the case for any server.

tom

[RACER X]

Funny thing is some of the wait staff in the high end restaurants make some damn good money waiting tables but thye know their stuff about the food and beverages. And do have to kiss some ass but thats the case for any server.

tom

most def. buddy of mine works at a top flite steakhouse, he makes $70-80k taxable..... alot is cash, so i'm not sure how much he really makes.

[marko138]

Funny thing is some of the wait staff in the high end restaurants make some damn good money waiting tables but thye know their stuff about the food and beverages. And do have to kiss some ass but thats the case for any server.

tom
I ate at an awesome steak house about a month ago. Really F'n expensive, but this waiter knew his shit. He was great.

[Flexin]

James, what r you doing now?

Doing sales in an electronic store.

James

[tommymac]

I ate at an awesome steak house about a month ago. Really F'n expensive, but this waiter knew his shit. He was great.

As opposed to the clowns at chillis that cant even remember what beer is on tap. :lol:

Tom

[marko138]

As opposed to the clowns at chillis that cant even remember what beer is on tap. :lol:

Tom
That is the worst. Fuckers. I've been a few places and ask whats on tap and come to find out they didn't even tell me all my options. Ass hats.

[Rider]

As opposed to the clowns at chillis that cant even remember what beer is on tap. :lol:

Tom

Nothing pisses me off more than this when i go into a restaurant.Now I usually stop by the bar on my way to being seated so I know what's on tap.

[tommymac]

That is the worst. Fuckers. I've been a few places and ask whats on tap and come to find out they didn't even tell me all my options. Ass hats.

same here, the can remeber bud coors light and maybe heinekin after that I am bette roff going and looking at the taps myself.

One tried to hype up a beer (not realizing I am a noted beer geek) and got all of it wrong. I sort of corrected him but stopped since hes bringing me my food :lol:

Tom

[marko138]

Nothing pisses me off more than this when i go into a restaurant.Now I usually stop by the bar on my way to being seated so I know what's on tap.
I try to glance, but I still ask in case there's something I didn't catch on my way in.

[CrazyKell]

That is the worst. Fuckers. I've been a few places and ask whats on tap and come to find out they didn't even tell me all my options. Ass hats.

How much did you tip them? :tremble::lmao: :lol:

[z06boy]

I agree. People look at people and say this person looks like a good tipper and this one doesn't. Maybe they are pre judging the customer before getting to the table and then treating them poorly because they expect a poor tip.

If you work for tips or commission (which I do) always give amazing service. You might not get a great tip that time (some people are cheap, some are just assholes) but if you always treat that person great each and every time they might change. Also your other tables can see how your treating that table as well.

A tip is earned.

James

Good post

[Cruzergirl]

I deliver pizza three days a week in Mississippi. We have a lot black people here, and they don't tip fuck-all. Additionally, the black tech school students on base from all over the country don't tip. The black delivery drivers where I work bitch about taking deliveries to black people because they know they aren't getting shit. My boss is black and when we have this conversation he tells me how he tips every time and that no all black people are like that. We went to a going away luncheon today - guess who didn't tip. My old supervisor put it simply a while back when he said "Of course they don't tip - you owe them something."

I had a black guy argue with me about tipping once on a run. I pulled up to his 250k house with an Escalade, a Mercedes and a BMW parked out front, the house I had to drive five miles and twenty minutes to one way in 1700 traffic. He walked to the door and on an order that was $26 and something handed me exact change, then said "That's all you, playa." It had been a long day so I said "Hey, thanks for the tip pal." He got real frosty and told me in no uncertain terms that my tip was included in the price. I told the guy that no, my tip is not in fact included with the order price. There's a two dollar delivery charge of which 38 cents is mine to cover my gas, as well as 4.5% of your total order price. I work for minimum wage and by the way, we're on a split wage so for the 40 minutes I'm on the delivery to your faraway mansion I'm actually working for $2.50 an hour, and in spite of you being a complete ass clown your pizza was hot and at your door in half he time we quoted you, and do you really fucking think I did all that for $1.55 when gas is $5 a gallon? He started getting really pissed so I let him run on for a minute and then told him not to order from us any more. He still can't and this was forever ago.

And as for being poor, if you can't afford three dollars for the pizza guy then you don't need to spend thirty dollars to have it delivered. Save some money and eat hamburger helper or come get it your goddam self.


Some people will never get it.

I always tip the pizza guy $5... the store is 3/4 of a mile away... and they are alway fast/friendly and the pizza is always hot (yeah, I could just go get the thing but I LIKE having it delivered).


A few years ago I went to dinner with my family. One of the aunts bought and honestly forgot to leave ANYTHING! The waitress chased us out in the parking lot, asked us if we meant to NOT tip her. My poor aunt was mortified and tipped her quite nicely...

I don't know about the skin color thing but when I was waitressing the worst tip I ever got was from a couple of guys who said I was the best waitress they ever had then proceeded to leave me a dollar... on a $30 tab. I was speechless.

[Papa_Complex]

I agree. People look at people and say this person looks like a good tipper and this one doesn't. Maybe they are pre judging the customer before getting to the table and then treating them poorly because they expect a poor tip.

If you work for tips or commission (which I do) always give amazing service. You might not get a great tip that time (some people are cheap, some are just assholes) but if you always treat that person great each and every time they might change. Also your other tables can see how your treating that table as well.

A tip is earned.

James

Exactly. That is my point. If someone essentially went through the motions, then they didn't earn a tip. If I'm looking around and having to snag another server when I need a refill, then the tip wasn't earned. If the meal that arrives is incorrect and the server is nowhere to be found, then the tip wasn't earned. I make allowances for when the place is busy.

I once had a server who took 40 minutes to show up after we were seated. He got EVERY order wrong. When we couldn't find him, we went to the manager to ask what was up. Ten minutes later the server arrived at our table, pulled out a chair for himself, then spent 10 minutes telling us about how he was whacked out from going to a 'team building session' the night before and was still hung over. Should I have given him one penny in tip? I don't think so.

OTOH if the server always seems to be there when my glass is almost empty and can be found with a wave, even if it's to correct an order that was wrong, that server is getting a good tip. An 'OK' tip from me is 20%. A good tip might be 50% or, as I previously mentioned, a $20.00 payment for a $10.00 cheque.

[Flexin]

Yesterday I helped a customer that with a product he was having problems with, I spent at least 15 minutes with him. This wasn't even my customer. I didn't sell him the product he needed help with. I still treated him like he was my customer. Chances are he will remember me next time he comes in.

I helped another guy the same day. I thought he was buying a product but it turned out he bought it the day before. While explaining the product to him he said I wish you were here yesterday because I would have bought the right product the first time. He returned the product and then I gave him the one he really needed. I then helped him set up the product because he wasn't going to be able to do this at home. I did that for him and he couldn't have been happier. He asked how much he owed me. I told him not a thing. He then decided he needed a case for his product and bought that from me.

About 10 minutes later my manager came up to tell me that that customer went to customer service to let them know how great the service I provided was. When they told him I was new they said he couldn't believe that I was new there. If he needs to buy something else or knows someone that needs something I sell I have a good feeling that they will come my way.

James

[karl_1052]

In Canada servers make minimum wage.

They actually make a little less than minimum wage.
http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/pubs/guide/minwage.php

But with tips they can make alot of money for a young person living at home(I would bet most servers fit in this category).

With this new research, I will not be tipping as much as I used to. I made $3/hr when I started working. I normally tip 15-20% no matter what, but not anymore. Shitty to mediocre service, crappy tip, good service, good tip.

I am Canadian.:rockwoot:

[Flexin]

I have a friend who said she doesn't get paid much per hour. I forget the amount, but she does really well in tips most nights. It would also depend on where you work. Some restaurants would attract better tippers then others.

For me I don't care if they get paid well or not. If they give great service I till give them a great tip. It wouldn't really matter if they got paid $25 an hour. I don't buy drinks, I only get water. I don't like to see my glass empty for too long and I like to have napkins on my table. And I don't think its too much to ask to get service with a smile.

James

[Flexin]

http://www.seeklogo.com/images/I/I_Am_Canadian-logo-5DF551C821-seeklogo.com.gif

James

[wildchild]

Some people will never get it.

I always tip the pizza guy $5... the store is 3/4 of a mile away... and they are alway fast/friendly and the pizza is always hot (yeah, I could just go get the thing but I LIKE having it delivered).



i delivered pizza when i first got out of the army. many years ago, had a guy call in as a joke for a delivery. he lived in the sticks with a huge driveway. his drive was all mud, he thought it would be funny to see a pizza guy have to walk up it when his little car didn't make it. I got a nice tip out of him when he realized i drove a slightly lifted full size blazer. i loved his driveway. he was laughing about it as the joke was on him in the end.

I iwll kick the bears ass anyway :rockwoot:

Tom

better not let PETA hear that. LOL

[Papa_Complex]

better not let PETA hear that. LOL

If he can kick a bear's ass, do you think that the milquetoasts from PETA have a chance? :rofl:

[tommymac]

i delivered pizza when i first got out of the army. many years ago, had a guy call in as a joke for a delivery. he lived in the sticks with a huge driveway. his drive was all mud, he thought it would be funny to see a pizza guy have to walk up it when his little car didn't make it. I got a nice tip out of him when he realized i drove a slightly lifted full size blazer. i loved his driveway. he was laughing about it as the joke was on him in the end.



better not let PETA hear that. LOL

Fuck peta I will beat their asses too then throw on my leather diding gear and go have a nice big steak :lol:

Tom

[wildchild]

If he can kick a bear's ass, do you think that the milquetoasts from PETA have a chance? :rofl:


good point, they'd prolly pass out at the thought of someone his size. lol

[marko138]

good point, they'd prolly pass out at the thought of someone his size. lol
Has anyone ever tried to dress tommy up as frankenstein? We should.

http://www.freewebs.com/hill9460/frankenstein_2.jpg

[z06boy]

I will beat their asses too :lol:
Tom

Well I guess if one is gonna get their azz kicked by someone it may as well be by someone that can administer care when they are done. :lol:

[tommymac]

Well I guess if one is gonna get their azz kicked by someone it may as well be by someone that can administer care when they are done. :lol:

I can fix em up so I can beat em again :rockwoot:

Tom

[Tsunami]

If he can kick a bear's ass, do you think that the milquetoasts from PETA have a chance? :rofl:

Tommy can't even catch my pug, I don't think he can hurt a bear.

[tommymac]

Tommy can't even catch my pug, I don't think he can hurt a bear.

You wanted the pug alive didnt you ;)

Tom

[Homeslice]

WTF are all you people arguing about? Tips are a performance-based wage. If you do good, you get more pay. Who would argue against that? Would you prefer that lousy waiters got the same pay as good ones?

And why are people focusing on the $2/hr?.......When tips are included, you can make $40-50/hr at the right places.

You guys don't want to tip, then go someplace where you have to pick up your food at the counter.

[tommymac]

WTF are all you people arguing about? Tips are a performance-based wage. If you do good, you get more pay. Who would argue against that? Would you prefer that lousy waiters get the same pay as good ones?

thats not always the case though. good prompt service should be a given in a restaurant. So some look at it as why should I tip for what should be done anyway.

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Tommy can't even catch my pug, I don't think he can hurt a bear.

When you're that big, a pug is an awful long way down :lol:

[tommymac]

When you're that big, a pug is an awful long way down :lol:

That and gina would have been upset if I just squashed him :lol:

[Kaneman]

thats not always the case though. good prompt service should be a given in a restaurant. So some look at it as why should I tip for what should be done anyway.

Tom

Well that's kind of the point, without the tip system good, prompt service will NOT be the given in any restaurant because you will have minimum wage employees who make the same whether or not you get good service.

[tommymac]

Well that's kind of the point, without the tip system good, prompt service will NOT be the given in any restaurant because you will have minimum wage employees who make the same whether or not you get good service.

Thats a good point, tips does stand for To Insure Proper Service. I think a lot of jobs should be performance based anyway but in the case of servers it doesnt always hold up when you get people who dont tip.

Tom

[Papa_Complex]

Well that's kind of the point, without the tip system good, prompt service will NOT be the given in any restaurant because you will have minimum wage employees who make the same whether or not you get good service.

But the assumption that a tip is a given does nothing to reinforce that level of service. Far too many people expect what is not their due, these days.

[shmike]

But the assumption that a tip is a given does nothing to reinforce that level of service. Far too many people expect what is not their due, these days.


True.

And unfortunately, far too many give a [generous] tip because it is expected rather than as a reflection of service which prepetuates the cycle.

[Kaneman]

But the assumption that a tip is a given does nothing to reinforce that level of service. Far too many people expect what is not their due, these days.

I never said it did. Tips are completely performance based. Do a crappy job get a crappy tip...do a really crappy job and get no tip. Do an exceptional job that really improves a customer's night and get 20% +.

My argument is that it is a great system that allows for quality servers who strive to do a good job and earn their money. When I'm throwing $40 + down for a meal for my wife and I the service is almost as important as the food, it needs to be stellar and I'm happy to tip well when it is.

When the service is bad it puts a real damper on everything else. If, as some are suggesting, we were to do away with the tip system and make servers salaried employees the level of service would go way down to the point that people (like myself) would just stop going out to eat.

Its not about, "Well if you don't like not getting tipped get a different job", that's complete bullshit. The world needs servers and the task they perform. Going out to eat, for me, is something to look forward to, something that brings joy and something fun...and that's not something to be pissed away because some people are too cheap to leave a tip because, "they don't agree with the system."

You would pay MORE for your meal after all was said and done without the tip system. At least this way someone is striving to really earn that cash. And if they don't....well they don't get it. Performance based systems are beautiful.

[CrazyKell]

Am I speaking English?

Time after time on this forum people choose to read what they want to read. They choose to hear what they want to hear. And they'll beat that dead horse into the ground because they want to.

I feel like that kid in the freakout video and if I see a remote in the next 5 seconds I'm going to try and shove it up my ass.

[Papa_Complex]

I never said it did. Tips are completely performance based. Do a crappy job get a crappy tip...do a really crappy job and get no tip. Do an exceptional job that really improves a customer's night and get 20% +.

My argument is that it is a great system that allows for quality servers who strive to do a good job and earn their money. When I'm throwing $40 + down for a meal for my wife and I the service is almost as important as the food, it needs to be stellar and I'm happy to tip well when it is.

When the service is bad it puts a real damper on everything else. If, as some are suggesting, we were to do away with the tip system and make servers salaried employees the level of service would go way down to the point that people (like myself) would just stop going out to eat.

Its not about, "Well if you don't like not getting tipped get a different job", that's complete bullshit. The world needs servers and the task they perform. Going out to eat, for me, is something to look forward to, something that brings joy and something fun...and that's not something to be pissed away because some people are too cheap to leave a tip because, "they don't agree with the system."

You would pay MORE for your meal after all was said and done without the tip system. At least this way someone is striving to really earn that cash. And if they don't....well they don't get it. Performance based systems are beautiful.

Perhaps that's what you're trying to say, but a lot of people seem to be coming down on a couple of us because we believe that there is nothing wrong with leaving no tip, if the service doesn't warrant it. What you have just said in this latest response supports my opinion that leaving no tip is a valid response to bad, or completely lacking service.

[Tmall]

Werd, so Kaneman argued for two days to agree with us. Strange..

[marko138]

Am I speaking English?

Time after time on this forum people choose to read what they want to read. They choose to hear what they want to hear. And they'll beat that dead horse into the ground because they want to.

I feel like that kid in the freakout video and if I see a remote in the next 5 seconds I'm going to try and shove it up my ass.
Um, welcome to the internet.

[tommymac]

Werd, so Kaneman argued for two days to agree with us. Strange..

If it helps pass the time at work its all good :lol:

Tom

[Kaneman]

Werd, so Kaneman argued for two days to agree with us. Strange..

No, that was always my point. I never advocated giving tips to shitty waiters, I argued in favor of the tip system.

[CrazyKell]

Um, welcome to the internet.


I credit the internet with giving me the "remote up the ass" idea. It's too late now. I can't unsee what I've seen.

Oh and as a complete aside....I cannot stand the 'welcome to the internet' comeback because it lacks both insight and creativity. A lowest common denominator comeback if there ever were one. I give certain forum members more credibility for their debating skills....so when one falters my faith in the system falters.

(and for those of you fucktards who are going to jump all over me because that's what you like to do with every post of mine......look up TONGUE IN CHEEK and then get back to me).

ps. I'm feeling saucy today! :lmao:

[tommymac]

I credit the internet with giving me the "remote up the ass" idea. It's too late now. I can't unsee what I've seen.

Oh and as a complete aside....I cannot stand the 'welcome to the internet' comeback because it lacks both insight and creativity. A lowest common denominator comeback if there ever were one. I give certain forum members more credibility for their debating skills....so when one falters my faith in the system falters.

(and for those of you fucktards who are going to jump all over me because that's what you like to do with every post of mine......look up TONGUE IN CHEEK and then get back to me).

ps. I'm feeling saucy today! :lmao:


So could we resort to, your mama jokes then :lol:

Tom

[z06boy]

Yeah I made a comment about SOME places in Europe serving beer at room temperature because THEY DO WITH A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEER and I got a lesson in beer that I wasn't even looking for and didn't need.

The fact that room temperature when it comes to beer is WARM to me...well another lesson that I didn't need was given as to the true definition of warm. :rofl:

Yep that's the internet...like it or not. :idk: :lol


Where's that remote ? :rofl: :rofl:

[CrazyKell]

"that remote" is in use right now. When I'm done with it can I borrow the shoe to hit myself on the head? :lol:

[z06boy]

"that remote" is in use right now. When I'm done with it can I borrow the shoe to hit myself on the head? :lol:

:lol: Just for the record...if you're ever in the NC area near Charlotte...I'll buy your lunch/dinner and if the server is worth a crap I'll leave a decent tip. :rofl: :cheers:

I try not to take much serious on the net...that's one reason I almost never get into the political threads especially if Avatard and one or two others are there...which they usually are. :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

Bah! Political threads are fun.

I poke at legislators with point-ed sticks too.

[z06boy]

Bah! Political threads are fun.

I poke at legislators with point-ed sticks too.

I read through them but don't post much in them. It kills me how some are so far left and some are so far right and hate the other side and no matter what is posted...none of them change their opinions. :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

I read through them but don't post much in them. It kills me how some are so far left and some are so far right and hate the other side and no matter what is posted...none of them change their opinions. :lol:

The most fun is when people try to categorize someone who is dead in the middle of the political map, but fail miserably. Very few people seem to know what to do about a "Canadian conservative" ;)

[z06boy]

The most fun is when people try to categorize someone who is dead in the middle of the political map, but fail miserably. Very few people seem to know what to do about a "Canadian conservative" ;)

:lol: Yep I'm near the middle myself...just lean to the right.

[karl_1052]

The most fun is when people try to categorize someone who is dead in the middle of the political map, but fail miserably. Very few people seem to know what to do about a "Canadian conservative" ;)

I vote for them.:D

[Papa_Complex]

I vote for them.:D

We don't have any of them, anymore :(

[karl_1052]

We don't have any of them, anymore :(

You can thank PET for that.

John Baird is pretty conservative.(although overly excitable, and will one day be caught in a scandal equal to Mulrooneys)

[Papa_Complex]

You can thank PET for that.

John Baird is pretty conservative.(although overly excitable, and will one day be caught in a scandal equal to Mulrooneys)

I thought that we had one in Harper but he lost my support just 2 weeks into his first term, when he broke all of the promises that made me vote for him.

I would like to see John Tory run for Federal office, even if I don't agree with many of his stances. He's honest and speaks his mind, rather than hiding behind political double-talk. I don't know if you know this, but he's actually doing the afternoon drive on CFRB - Talk 1010 these days. Terrible radio personality; good politician.

[Sean]

"that remote" is in use right now. When I'm done with it can I borrow the shoe to hit myself on the head? :lol:

If you keep not tipping, others are going to hit you upside the head eventually. Or you might get a spitburger.

We're just looking out for you.

[marko138]

I credit the internet with giving me the "remote up the ass" idea. It's too late now. I can't unsee what I've seen.

Oh and as a complete aside....I cannot stand the 'welcome to the internet' comeback because it lacks both insight and creativity. A lowest common denominator comeback if there ever were one. I give certain forum members more credibility for their debating skills....so when one falters my faith in the system falters.

(and for those of you fucktards who are going to jump all over me because that's what you like to do with every post of mine......look up TONGUE IN CHEEK and then get back to me).

ps. I'm feeling saucy today! :lmao:
I said :welcome: to the internet because clearly it's your first day here and you don't know how forums work, crazy lady.

[Flexin]

Am I speaking English?

Time after time on this forum people choose to read what they want to read. They choose to hear what they want to hear. And they'll beat that dead horse into the ground because they want to.

I feel like that kid in the freakout video and if I see a remote in the next 5 seconds I'm going to try and shove it up my ass.

Film it please. I would offer a tip for that.

James

[CrazyKell]

If you keep not tipping, others are going to hit you upside the head eventually. Or you might get a spitburger.

We're just looking out for you.

Are you trying to kill me hear? My head is about to explode.

I'm going to fly to California and take you out for dinner. I hope we get the worst service ever. And I'm going to tip so much it'll make YOUR head spin. :lmao:

I said :welcome: to the internet because clearly it's your first day here and you don't know how forums work, crazy lady.

Nah....I know how they work. Just getting frustrated. And while I won't say I'm "crazy" I will say that I am staunchly in favour of coco puffs. ;)

Film it please. I would offer a tip for that.

James

Only tip if I give you stellar service k?

[marko138]

Are you trying to kill me hear? My head is about to explode.

I'm going to fly to California and take you out for dinner. I hope we get the worst service ever. And I'm going to tip so much it'll make YOUR head spin. :lmao:



Nah....I know how they work. Just getting frustrated. And while I won't say I'm "crazy" I will say that I am staunchly in favour of coco puffs. ;)



Only tip if I give you stellar service k?
Yeah, not crazy at all.

[karl_1052]

Are you trying to kill me hear? My head is about to explode.

I'm going to fly to California and take you out for dinner. I hope we get the worst service ever. And I'm going to tip so much it'll make YOUR head spin. :lmao:

So all we have to do is disagree with you and you will buy us dinner?
:lol

[Papa_Complex]

Nah....I know how they work. Just getting frustrated. And while I won't say I'm "crazy" I will say that I am staunchly in favour of coco puffs. ;)

So we should be calling you KookooKell?

[CrazyKell]

So all we have to do is disagree with you and you will buy us dinner?
:lol

Shhhh! I was just looking for a reason to get to meet Sean. ;)

[Homeslice]

Yeah I made a comment about SOME places in Europe serving beer at room temperature because THEY DO WITH A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEER and I got a lesson in beer that I wasn't even looking for and didn't need.

The fact that room temperature when it comes to beer is WARM to me...well another lesson that I didn't need was given as to the true definition of warm. :rofl:

Yep that's the internet...like it or not. :idk: :lol


Where's that remote ? :rofl: :rofl:

The only beer that really needs to be cold is cheap crap like Bud, Miller, Corona, etc (to mask the lame taste, and make people think it is "refreshing"). Almost everything else should be served at about 50-55 degrees IMO.

[shmike]

Yeah, not crazy at all.

:lmao:

[HurricaneHeather]

Kaneman, this thread is epically retarded and I love it. :dthumb:

[z06boy]

The only beer that really needs to be cold is cheap crap like Bud, Miller etc.

I'm not debating that at all.

I usually only drink beer during the summer when it's hot and I like it cold.

In the colder months I usually drink mixed drinks.

[tommymac]

The only beer that really needs to be cold is cheap crap like Bud, Miller, Corona, etc (to mask the lame taste, and make people think it is "refreshing"). Almost everything else should be served at about 50-55 degrees IMO.

thats all that matters :)

Tom

[marko138]

I'm not debating that at all.

I usually only drink beer during the summer when it's hot and I like it cold.

In the colder months I usually drink mixed drinks.
All beer should be cold. Cold as fuck. Fucking cold. Damn near frozen even.

[z06boy]

All beer should be cold. Cold as fuck. Fucking cold. Damn near frozen even.

:lol: That's the way I like it. When I'm out in the boat and it's hot and humid here on the lake...give me a COLD beer !!

[marko138]

:lol: That's the way I like it. When I'm out in the boat and it's hot and humid here on the lake...give me a COLD beer !!
Exactly. The colder the better for me. And in a frosty glass or mug.

[Homeslice]

So in the winter you just don't drink beer at all?

[marko138]

So in the winter you just don't drink beer at all?
I never stop drinking beer. It transcends all seasons.

[z06boy]

So in the winter you just don't drink beer at all?

Not often. I'm not saying that I won't drink it at all but I lean toward liquor more.

[marko138]

Here's a little something:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20091119_College_students_arrested_for_not_paying_ tip.html

College students arrested for not paying tip
By Peter Mucha

Inquirer Staff Writer

It was an evening out that college students Leslie Pope and John Wagner will long remember.
Not only did they get what they called lousy service, they got handcuffed and arrested.

All over a $16.35 tip.

They were with a half-dozen friends at the Lehigh Pub in Bethlehem last month, so the establishment tacked what it called a mandatory 18 percent gratuity onto the bill of about $73, according to reports.

Pope and Wagner refused to pay.

"You can't give us terrible, terrible service and expect a tip," said Pope, a 22-year-old Moravian College senior who's a Pottsville native, according to the Lehigh Valley Express-Times.

They had to find their own napkins and cutlery while their waitress caught a smoke, had to ask the bar for soda refills, and had to wait over an hour for salad and wings, they told NBC10.

The pub, which was very busy that night, took the $73, but then called the cops, who treated the matter as a theft.

The menu clearly states, "18 percent gratuity added to check of parties of 6 of more," and a similar message is printed on receipts, a pub employee said this morning.

A court date is scheduled for next month.

What would they do if it happened again? a reporter asked.

"Honestly, probably gonna pay the tip anyway," said Pope, prompting Wagner, 24, a Lehigh University grad student, to laugh.

[Sean]

So all we have to do is disagree with you and you will buy us dinner?
:lol

Score :dthumb:

[Papa_Complex]

Here's a little something:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20091119_College_students_arrested_for_not_paying_ tip.html

That's exactly the sort of thing that irks me, and I mentioned it earlier in the thread. They call it a "gratuity"? Well I suppose that no one bothered to check Websters on that.


Main Entry: gra·tu·ity
Pronunciation: \grə-ˈtü-ə-tē, -ˈtyü-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural gra·tu·ities
Date: 1540

: something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service; especially : tip