Anyone else a tightass?

[Fleck750]

No, this isn't about tipping. :p

It's November, and we still haven't turned the heat on yet (Kansas). Had nights down to freezing, but living in a small place and having two radiant space heaters is keeping the bills low.

Does anyone else save money by using alternate types of heat?

[Homeslice]

He said . . . Why are married women heavier than single women?
She said . . . Single women come home, see what's in the fridge and go to bed. Married women come home, see what's in bed and go to the fridge.

:lmao: :lmao:

[Fleck750]

:lmao: :lmao:

Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny, too. :D

[t-homo]

We turned the heat on for a day then said fuck it.

[lauralynne]

thermostat set to 60 degrees. Cold? put on some more clothes or get another blanket.

[Captain Morgan]

I turn the heat down and use an electric blanket at night. Doesn't work when my daughter is here, though.

[101lifts2]

In socal the heat is turned on a handful of times from Dec-March. The A/C is another story.

[Tsunami]

Just a big blanket and a dog constantly constantly laying on top of me keeps me warm. Other than that my apt is pretty new and insulated.

I have my therm set at 77. It only goes on at night though when it gets to be about 40 for the low. Its stays fairly warm from the sun during the day. I started turning the heat on last month because I am a wimp to the cold now. My gas bill was still only $17.

Now back East my mom barely turned the heat on. So flannel PJ's with socks, and a fleece on top, and 2 heavy down comforters and another light blanket on top. Felt like i was being buried alive.

[Homeslice]

thermostat set to 60 degrees. Cold? put on some more clothes or get another blanket.

Um, ok, so you would tell that to a guest, or relative?

Extra heat for a couple of nights doesn't cost THAT much :rolleyes:

Unless you guys own 10,000 sq-ft homes, which I highly doubt. redflip

[fasternyou929]

You guys are crazy. I want to be comfortable when I'm home, so the thermostat's set to 72 all year. I can't imagine being cold in my own home to save a few bucks a month. :lol:

[racedoll]

Erik whines about the heat not being turned up high enough. I have it set at 64-65 and it would be less if he didn't complain. But I pay the bill, so he has to respect so of what I say.

[Adeptus_Minor]

In socal the heat is turned on a handful of times from Dec-March. The A/C is another story.

Pretty much like here.
It was actually cool enough here earlier in the week to justify it, but I just toughed it out.

[Fleck750]

You guys are crazy. I want to be comfortable when I'm home, so the thermostat's set to 72 all year. I can't imagine being cold in my own home to save a few bucks a month. :lol:

BF's unemployment will run out next month, and I took a 50 % paycut in the last year. Last years gas bill at 65 degrees was $300 bucks for a well insulated, 500 ft duplex. So there is a good chance if I run the furnace that I won't even make enough to pay the bills. Hence the radiant heaters.

And please don't tell me to go get a better paying job, it just isn't happening in this economy. :bash:

[2up]

F-all that, sorry!! I live in AZ and its cold enough at night for the heat to come on. I dress warmly, but I'm not going to be uncomfortable in my own home. I also have electric heat so it must cost less than gas?

Laura, I would DIE if I lived in your house. 60 here is freezing! I mean, when you live here long enough you become a wimp and 60 is freezing! OK, actually even when I lived in Michigan that would have killed me. 72 is too cold for me unless its outside with sunshine!! :lol:

[fasternyou929]

BF's unemployment will run out next month, and I took a 50 % paycut in the last year. Last years gas bill at 65 degrees was $300 bucks for a well insulated, 500 ft duplex. So there is a good chance if I run the furnace that I won't even make enough to pay the bills. Hence the radiant heaters.

And please don't tell me to go get a better paying job, it just isn't happening in this economy. :bash:

That seems pretty extreme, your gas company must be making a fortune. There's no reason it should cost $300/month to heat 500 sq. ft. unless you leave the doors and windows open.

[Fleck750]

F-all that, sorry!! I live in AZ and its cold enough at night for the heat to come on. I dress warmly, but I'm not going to be uncomfortable in my own home. I also have electric heat so it must cost less than gas?


Heat pump is the cheapest. Highest the bill ever got for summer or winter was 65 bucks. And electric is much cheaper than gas, but prices may have gone from last year.

[Fleck750]

That seems pretty extreme, your gas company must be making a fortune. There's no reason it should cost $300/month to heat 500 sq. ft. unless you leave the doors and windows open.

Utilities suck here in KCK. My water and sewer bill is $55 a month. That's 2 baths a day, 4 loads of laundry and dishes every other day.

I think the gas was very high last year because the gas company buys it well in advance. So if they bought the gas at last summers prices, which is the highest it's ever been, it might explain the outrageous prices last winter.

[lauralynne]

Um, ok, so you would tell that to a guest, or relative?

Extra heat for a couple of nights doesn't cost THAT much :rolleyes:

Unless you guys own 10,000 sq-ft homes, which I highly doubt. redflip

my house heats up pretty well when I'm cooking and we're moving around. If my sister (who is a human popsicle) is coming over, I'll light a fire in the fireplace. But otherwise? Nope. It's cold at my house. Deal. (mind you that keeping it at 70 for a month was an $800 electric bill - I just can't afford that. Period)

[Tsunami]

F-all that, sorry!! I live in AZ and its cold enough at night for the heat to come on. I dress warmly, but I'm not going to be uncomfortable in my own home. I also have electric heat so it must cost less than gas?

Laura, I would DIE if I lived in your house. 60 here is freezing! I mean, when you live here long enough you become a wimp and 60 is freezing! OK, actually even when I lived in Michigan that would have killed me. 72 is too cold for me unless its outside with sunshine!! :lol:

No kidding! 72 is cold without the sun out and the wind blowing. I rode last weekend at night, it was probably like 60 degrees (maybe higher) and I thought I was going to get windburn on my legs :lol:

I don't dress warm though even with the heat on. The apt is warm enough for me to dress like I do in the summer.

Fleck you need to move out here to the desert. There are no jobs here either but at least your utilities will be cheap. The most I ever paid for my electric bill is about $100 in August and I was bitching and complaining about it and I live in an upstairs (warmer) unit, about 800 sq ft. Water, sewer trash is about $30 and my gas bill is never above $50 in the winter (and thats when the electric bill drops to about $40).

[Particle Man]

sweat shirts and keeping the heat lower :)

[CrazyKell]

You guys are crazy. I want to be comfortable when I'm home, so the thermostat's set to 72 all year. I can't imagine being cold in my own home to save a few bucks a month. :lol:

I agree. 60 is too damn low for me. I like 70.

I don't control the heat in my apartment though so if I get cold I put on a blanket or extra clothes. :idk:

[Fleck750]

When it starts to get really cold, will have to turn the furnace on just enough to keep the pipes from freezing. Will probably turn it to 50, and keep the electric heaters on.

Will post updates to see what the outcome of the combo is.

[Fleck750]

No kidding! 72 is cold without the sun out and the wind blowing. I rode last weekend at night, it was probably like 60 degrees (maybe higher) and I thought I was going to get windburn on my legs :lol:

I don't dress warm though even with the heat on. The apt is warm enough for me to dress like I do in the summer.

Fleck you need to move out here to the desert. There are no jobs here either but at least your utilities will be cheap. The most I ever paid for my electric bill is about $100 in August and I was bitching and complaining about it and I live in an upstairs (warmer) unit, about 800 sq ft. Water, sewer trash is about $30 and my gas bill is never above $50 in the winter (and thats when the electric bill drops to about $40).

Am considering studying to be a pharmacy tech. Then I'll be able to move somewhere warmer. Sick people live everywhere. :D

[Dave]

our thermostat has been set to off since august

[2up]

Am considering studying to be a pharmacy tech. Then I'll be able to move somewhere warmer. Sick people live everywhere. :D

That's what my daughter does. I don't know what the requirements are where you live but she got a job as a cashier in a pharmacy and got a book from them to study for her tech test. Within about 4 months she took the test and passed and *bam* certified tech. A little over a year later she is making around 14 or 15 an hour, which isn't bad for a 21 year old! You don't need to go to school if you can get OJT in a pharmacy. That's kind of a rip off actually. The school I mean.

[Fleck750]

That's what my daughter does. I don't know what the requirements are where you live but she got a job as a cashier in a pharmacy and got a book from them to study for her tech test. Within about 4 months she took the test and passed and *bam* certified tech. A little over a year later she is making around 14 or 15 an hour, which isn't bad for a 21 year old! You don't need to go to school if you can get OJT in a pharmacy. That's kind of a rip off actually. The school I mean.
Thank you for the info. It's what I've heard from most that wotk in the industry.
Most don't want you to attend school, it teaches bad habits.

Could you possibly ask your daughter what book she studied from? I have 3 different ones that I can order online that are study manuals for the tech test.

[tommymac]

Ours has come on a few timessometimes I will kick it on when I wake up in the morning then shut it back off when I leave for work. We have 2 zones and the downstairs is down at like 60/off so that rareley kicks on.

I bought a programable thermostat I just need to get around to actualy installing it so I can set it for those times in the am.

Tom

['73 H1 Triple]

I have the Franco-Belge oil heater burner in the basement set on low and the hot air oil heater only comes on when it gets in the 30s outside.

Keeps it about 66-68 :dthumb:

Once it gets colder, I'll fire up the coal insert and it'll be nice and toasty here, low 70s.

I installed four oil tanks in my basement, for a total of 1100 gallons capacity. I wait until the price is the best and fill it up. I paid $1.759 a gallon this year. Those 1100 gallons would last me two years.


Here's the gravity feed Franco-Belge oil burner. Think kerosene heater behind glass without the smell or dirt/soot. Adjustable flame. Even with no electricity, this will provide heat and place to cook.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/DCP_2362A.jpg

This is the Harman wood/coal insert that we burn chestnut size coal in. Just shake the ash in the morning and evening when you top it off with coal and it stays nice and warm for cheap.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/DCP_2363A.jpg

Oil tank set up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/DCP_2273A.jpg

The three ton of coal we purchased for this year. Those are 50 lb bags stacked over 4' high.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/house/DCP_4493.jpg



Jeff

[tommymac]

I have the Franco-Belge oil heater burner in the basement set on low and the hot air oil heater only comes on when it gets in the 30s outside.

Keeps it about 66-68 :dthumb:

Once it gets colder, I'll fire up the coal insert and it'll be nice and toasty here, low 70s.

I installed four oil tanks in my basement, for a total of 1100 gallons capacity. I wait until the price is the best and fill it up. I paid $1.759 a gallon this year. Those 1100 gallons would last me two years.


Here's the gravity feed Franco-Belge oil burner. Think kerosene heater behind glass without the smell or dirt/soot. Adjustable flame. Even with no electricity, this will provide heat and place to cook.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/DCP_2362A.jpg

This is the Harman wood/coal insert that we burn chestnut size coal in. Just shake the ash in the morning and evening when you top it off with coal and it stays nice and warm for cheap.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/DCP_2363A.jpg

Oil tank set up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/DCP_2273A.jpg

The three ton of coal we purchased for this year. Those are 50 lb bags stacked over 4' high.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house/house/DCP_4493.jpg



Jeff


man it looks like youre ready for the appocalypse, how big is the place youre heating?

Our house isnt that big and were on the fence about updating our gas furnace/heater. its 29 yrs old and the service guy said keep it till it dies (which with my luck will be on the coldest day of the year on a sun night in feb.

Thing is the newer smart furnaces will save us a lot of our gas bills and will pay for itself in the long run, but we dont have the 7k plus to plunk down on one, so we may just deal with it his year and see about next year.

Tom

[2up]

Thank you for the info. It's what I've heard from most that wotk in the industry.
Most don't want you to attend school, it teaches bad habits.

Could you possibly ask your daughter what book she studied from? I have 3 different ones that I can order online that are study manuals for the tech test.

Yep. She's at work right now but when she gets home I will!

['73 H1 Triple]

man it looks like youre ready for the appocalypse, how big is the place youre heating?

Our house isnt that big and were on the fence about updating our gas furnace/heater. its 29 yrs old and the service guy said keep it till it dies (which with my luck will be on the coldest day of the year on a sun night in feb.

Thing is the newer smart furnaces will save us a lot of our gas bills and will pay for itself in the long run, but we dont have the 7k plus to plunk down on one, so we may just deal with it his year and see about next year.

Tom

About 2400 sq ft ( PA does NOT include basement footage in the total )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house-front-rs.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/house-rear-side.jpg

My wife and I purchased this house in Oct '03. It HAD electric heat when we purchased it, our first winter bill was $280 for one month. I wasn't happy ( BIG understatement) and told my wife just to pay the bill and not let me know how much.

My friend Chris owns a heating and cooling business and we had him install a oil fired hot air system with central air that spring. That's when we upped the tank total to four. We also have him maintain the system and purchase our oil from someone else. As he pointed out, why have the company that you purchase your oil from do your heater tuneup. It is NOT in their best interest to make it run at peak effeciency as they will sell more oil if it's not perfectly tuned.

The main air intake for the system is in the livingroom across from the coal insert. That way we can run the fan and move the heated air throughout the entire house.

The franco-belge unit is in the basement so that keeps the floors warm and the heat comes up in the kitchen ( that stairway is just inside the deck ).

[the chi]

You guys are crazy. I want to be comfortable when I'm home, so the thermostat's set to 72 all year. I can't imagine being cold in my own home to save a few bucks a month. :lol:

I am permanently cold and my husband prefers cooler temps, so we just try to keep a happy median. I put on more clothes and leave the temp around 72 or 73, and he doesnt make it cooler, winter or summer. However if I am by myself, I do turn it up, or break out my little personal electric heater. I despise being chilled. It makes me ache like an old person.

[Rangerscott]

People still use oil and coal? :whosr: Saw the pics and thought I fallen back in time a 100 years. Haha


Well down south it's either Central A/C & heating, wood burner (good ole mesquite), pellet burner (dont see much of those), or your fireplace. Forgot some crazy people just hook up a bunch of little electric heaters. O that's a fire waiting to happen. If you live out of city limits then you'd be using propane instead of natural gas for your heating and cooking.

For cooling its central A/C, window units, swamp cooler, or just fans.


In the summer I leave it at 70-72. Winter about the same, a little higher on the cold nights.


Now who will be the first to ask what a swamp cooler is. :skep:

[Rangerscott]

It's amazing how many people have fireplaces down here and don't use them. They've become house decorations.

[tommymac]

People still use oil and coal? :whosr: Saw the pics and thought I fallen back in time a 100 years. Haha


Well down south it's either Central A/C & heating, wood burner (good ole mesquite), pellet burner (dont see much of those), or your fireplace. Forgot some crazy people just hook up a bunch of little electric heaters. O that's a fire waiting to happen. If you live out of city limits then you'd be using propane instead of natural gas for your heating and cooking.

For cooling its central A/C, window units, swamp cooler, or just fans.


In the summer I leave it at 70-72. Winter about the same, a little higher on the cold nights.


Now who will be the first to ask what a swamp cooler is. :skep:

Every year we have a few big fires due to space heaters either electric or kerosene.

Tom

[Rangerscott]

You'd have to be suicidal to use kerosene down here. Hell just a 5 gal bucket at a lumber yard runs you around $70. I believe propane keeps going up. My father only fills up his tank when he has too. They dont do half fills or what not. They sit an automatic how much you have to pay for. I think his tank is an 80 gal and their minimum fee is for 100 gal fill up.

[tommymac]

The problem here is many of the poor/illegals use them and they make one house into an 8 or 9 bedroom appt so firemen get trapped when they go in because they cant find their way out.

Tom

[Rangerscott]

The problem here is many of the poor/illegals use them and they make one house into an 8 or 9 bedroom appt so firemen get trapped when they go in because they cant find their way out.

Tom

Our city passed a new law not so long ago where there is a limit to how many people can live in a house/aprt. Doesnt matter if your related or not.

[tommymac]

Our city passed a new law not so long ago where there is a limit to how many people can live in a house/aprt. Doesnt matter if your related or not.

Those laws are here too just not enforced, theres some outcry every time a firefighter is hurt or killed, but in the end not much gets done.

Tom

[fasternyou929]

My wife and I purchased this house in Oct '03. It HAD electric heat when we purchased it, our first winter bill was $280 for one month. I wasn't happy ( BIG understatement)

I have the Franco-Belge oil heater burner in the basement set on low and the hot air oil heater only comes on when it gets in the 30s outside.

Keeps it about 66-68 :dthumb:

Once it gets colder, I'll fire up the coal insert and it'll be nice and toasty here, low 70s.

I installed four oil tanks in my basement, for a total of 1100 gallons capacity. I wait until the price is the best and fill it up. I paid $1.759 a gallon this year. Those 1100 gallons would last me two years.


Here's the gravity feed Franco-Belge oil burner.

This is the Harman wood/coal insert that we burn chestnut size coal in. Just shake the ash in the morning and evening when you top it off with coal and it stays nice and warm for cheap.

The three ton of coal we purchased for this year. Those are 50 lb bags stacked over 4' high. Jeff

Holy crap man, how long will it take until installing oil tanks, buying over $950/yr. in oil, installing an oil burner, installing a coal burner, buying tons of coal, and maintenance on that system ends up being cheaper and easier than a $280/month bill in winter?

[lauralynne]

I should add: we're RARELY home. We all leave the house by 7am and we're rarely home before 9, fix dinner (which heats up the house) and then kids shower and go to bed and we sit and watch TV/hang out online and then crawl in bed. It's not like there's frost on the windows or we're wandering around the house like staypuff marhsmellow men :) We're used to it, it's not cold to us.

[Homeslice]

my house heats up pretty well when I'm cooking and we're moving around. If my sister (who is a human popsicle) is coming over, I'll light a fire in the fireplace. But otherwise? Nope. It's cold at my house. Deal. (mind you that keeping it at 70 for a month was an $800 electric bill - I just can't afford that. Period)

How was your bill $800 when '73 H1 Triple's was only $280 in the middle of a Pennsylvania winter?

Especially if you say that simply cooking dinner heats up the house........must not be a huge house then. Not trying to bust your balls, just trying to figure this out.

[tommymac]

How was your bill $800 when '73 H1 Triple's was only $280 in the middle of a Pennsylvania winter?

Especially if you say that simply cooking dinner heats up the house........must not be a huge house then. Not trying to bust your balls, just trying to figure this out.

Electric heat maybe? Its supposed to be very efficient but very expensive.

Tom

[lauralynne]

Electric heat maybe? Its supposed to be very efficient but very expensive.

Tom

Electric heat (forced air) and Seattle prices.

[tommymac]

Electric heat (forced air) and Seattle prices.

Worse than LI/NYC prices? I know our rates are prety bad here too. We have baseboard heating with gas. It seems prety good so far but its still all new to me. At the appt we had oil and had some shady goings on with the LL but around here the general consensu is that gas is a better option than oil.

Tom

[Homeslice]

The other guy's was electric as well :idk:

[mutley]

YOU HAVE HEAT lol. do you eco7 or another way do you have a cheep 2nd rate electric ?

ive over 914 lights in my place yet only comes in at 53 watts if all on

that was kilo watts lol ive some led some solour others are 0.09watts xmas lights and last year cut my electric down 66%.

[Fleck750]

YOU HAVE HEAT lol. do you eco7 or another way do you have a cheep 2nd rate electric ?

ive over 914 lights in my place yet only comes in at 53 watts if all on

that was kilo watts lol ive some led some solour others are 0.09watts xmas lights and last year cut my electric down 66%.

What you're saying is interesting, but I don't understand a thing you said. :De

You can go "off the grid" here, but the cost is pretty high to outfit a house with it.

[mutley]

What you're saying is interesting, but I don't understand a thing you said. :De

You can go "off the grid" here, but the cost is pretty high to outfit a house with it.

you have house's too lol

['73 H1 Triple]

Holy crap man, how long will it take until installing oil tanks, buying over $950/yr. in oil, installing an oil burner, installing a coal burner, buying tons of coal, and maintenance on that system ends up being cheaper and easier than a $280/month bill in winter?

That $280 was just a warm November electric bill. As I found out later, they were in excess of $400.

The oil fired hot air feels much warmer than the electric heat does. Plus we got central air with the new system. I didn't have to buy specialized narrow air conditioners to fit the crank out windows.

Plus, if the electric goes out, I still have heat :dthumb:

[Tmall]

How do you suppose the furnace pumps the oil? Isn't it electric?

I think you're outta luck with an oil furnace if you lose power, correct me if I'm wrong obviously..

['73 H1 Triple]

How do you suppose the furnace pumps the oil? Isn't it electric?

I think you're outta luck with an oil furnace if you lose power, correct me if I'm wrong obviously..

For the oil fired hot air furnace you would be correct. The Franco-Belge unit is gravity fed. So as long as there is some of that 1100 gallons left, I will have heat :yes:

Here's info to back up my point.
http://www.napoleonfireplaces.com/Stoves/stoves_oil/franco_belge.html

The one we have is the NORMANDIE model.

Jeff

[Cutty72]

I need to get a backup heat source, or have the old man wire in a generator. Right now everything is electric.

[Rangerscott]

Any of ya'll have that new thing they do with the foundation where before they pour it. They run lines (copper I think) and it cycles you water system and heats/cools the foundation. They say its works pretty well.



Also, what about those "instant" hot water heater boxes. I've heard good and bad. The good is they heat the water up fast. The bad is if you have "hard" water they can clogged up fast from the build up. Not completely sure on that but I heard it floating around. I wonder how the electric bill is with one?

[Flexin]

You guys are crazy. I want to be comfortable when I'm home, so the thermostat's set to 72 all year. I can't imagine being cold in my own home to save a few bucks a month. :lol:

When I first bought my house about 7 years ago I kept the heat off for a long while. One day I was fully dressed (I don't do that much) and was under a blanket and I was still freezing. I flipped. I said "FUCK THIS!!!" and jumped up and turned on the heat. I said I didn't buy a house to freeze my ass off in it.

I turned the heat on early this year because I don't seem to deal as well with the cold as I used to. Plus with the kids I don't want them cold.

I do keep a blanket on my couch so I don't need it too hot until the really cold nights come.

James

[Rangerscott]

As long as my hands and feet are warm, I'm fine. I have poor circulation in those areas.

['73 H1 Triple]

Also, what about those "instant" hot water heater boxes. I've heard good and bad. The good is they heat the water up fast. The bad is if you have "hard" water they can clogged up fast from the build up. Not completely sure on that but I heard it floating around. I wonder how the electric bill is with one?

The good is the almost instant hot water. One of the guys on corvette forum has one and the only thing "different" is he has to run more hot water to get warm. No big deal.

The bad is the initial cost. From what I heard, the price is about three times that of a regular water heater. Once you install it, you will start saving money as you don't have to maintain temperature on a 40-70 gallon hot water supply.

If your water is that hard, a replacable filter in front of it should work ( as long as you change the filters )

Jeff

[Cutty72]

Any of ya'll have that new thing they do with the foundation where before they pour it. They run lines (copper I think) and it cycles you water system and heats/cools the foundation. They say its works pretty well.


It's called "in floor heating" and can be done either with hot water or electric.

My parents have it in both the basement and the upstairs (split level house) as well as in the garage.
It is awesome, and I will never pour concrete for a building without it ever again.

[buzzcutt2]

A/C is set at 73...haven't turned on the heat yet - I was lucky enough to be able to open the windows a few times. Who knows if heat will even be needed this year.

[RACER X]

we had an elec. heater in our last residence, it sucked add to that 70's efficiency = none, our elec. bill was easily $300/mos over the winters and still cold in our house.

last month our elec. was $93 :rockwoot:, in our '08 house.

[Homeslice]

It's called "in floor heating" and can be done either with hot water or electric.

My parents have it in both the basement and the upstairs (split level house) as well as in the garage.
It is awesome, and I will never pour concrete for a building without it ever again.

How many lines per sq ft are laid down under the concrete? And is there risk of cracking due to thermal differences between those lines?

[CrazyKell]

Also, what about those "instant" hot water heater boxes. I've heard good and bad. The good is they heat the water up fast. The bad is if you have "hard" water they can clogged up fast from the build up. Not completely sure on that but I heard it floating around. I wonder how the electric bill is with one?

They've been in Europe for ages.

[z06boy]

We keep the thermostat on 70 during the winter. 68 during the day when we're at work. Utilities here sure aren't as expensive as what some of you guys have posted...geez.

[RACER X]

dang 70 is COLD......

[Flexin]

How many lines per sq ft are laid down under the concrete? And is there risk of cracking due to thermal differences between those lines?

http://www.torontowarmfloors.com/images/Picture-012.jpg

http://www.performanceengineering.com/radiantFloorHeating/images/heat3.jpg

http://www.arcsolar.com/images/inFloorHeat/radiantFloor3.JPG

http://www.iklimnet.com/expert_hvac/hvac_pictures/RF-Heating.jpg

http://www.ideal-heating.com/photo/971.jpg

There shouldn't be any risk of cracking. They whole floor ends up being the same temp.

My sister has it in her apartment. I plan on having it in our next house.

James

[Cutty72]

Thanks Flexin for saving me the trouble of finding pics.

yeah, it heats evenly, and the concrete (or flooring material) holds the heat, keeping the room warmer with less energy costs.
In my parents upstairs the tubing is just suspended between the floor joists.

Warming the garage (38X45) to 65 degrees and then turning off the heat, it will still be 55 4 days later, with average outside temps in the teens, and opening the garage door at least twice a day to get vehicles in and out.

Very efficient, and easy.

[RACER X]

you can buy mats now that you can lay down and tile over, they use elec. to get thm heated up.

[Flexin]

you can buy mats now that you can lay down and tile over, they use elec. to get thm heated up.

Yeah I was thinking of putting that down in my bathroom if I ever get around to putting down tile. Then I can get rid of the baseboard heater.

James

[Flexin]

Thanks Flexin for saving me the trouble of finding pics.

yeah, it heats evenly, and the concrete (or flooring material) holds the heat, keeping the room warmer with less energy costs.
In my parents upstairs the tubing is just suspended between the floor joists.

Warming the garage (38X45) to 65 degrees and then turning off the heat, it will still be 55 4 days later, with average outside temps in the teens, and opening the garage door at least twice a day to get vehicles in and out.

Very efficient, and easy.

I was in a bike shop that had radiant heat. They had a bay door open on a cold ass day and the shop was nice and warm. I was pissed. I didn't want to go back to my cold ass detail shop.

My sisters place is nice but there is one problem. She will turn the heat off if she has a lot of people over there but it doesn't help. We were all there the other night and it hit 24 degrees in there with the heat off. But thats what also makes it good. It heats everything in the room so it stays nice. I guess it was a bitch when it went down in the building for close to a week. Once back on it took a bit to warm back up.

James

[Flexin]

Here is what RacerX is talking about.

http://www.radiant-floor-heating.com/galleries/home-java/electric-roll.png

James