Anyone rode a 2009/2010 ZX6R?

[101lifts2]

I think this is going to be my next bike. Fits me good, easy to service, big piston fork (sounds cool anyway), 8hp over 2008 and 22lbs lighter. I know it won shootouts, but I would like to hear real riding experences...Post em up nuckaz!

[Homeslice]

Man, you keep flip-flopping.......first liter bikes, then 600's, then an EX500, now back to 600's?

[pauldun170]

Man, you keep flip-flopping.......first liter bikes, then 600's, then an EX500, now back to 600's?

More power to him...
Variety is the spice of life.

[karl_1052]

More power to him...
Variety is the spice of life.

Is that a Tiger Woods quote?:lol:

[pauldun170]

Is that a Tiger Woods quote?:lol:


:lol:

[101lifts2]

Man, you keep flip-flopping.......first liter bikes, then 600's, then an EX500, now back to 600's?


I've had the 2007 600rr for the canyons for over 2.5 years now...and the EX500s were commuting bikes as with a few other second bikes. I'm wanting to get a different canyon bike. The 2006 ZX10r was just too much power and too heavy. I didn't feel like killing myself.

The only reason I want to get rid of the 600rr is because the bike is simply too small for me and after 2.5 years I'm still not use to having to constantly slide rearward. I love everything else on the bike...power, suspension, brakes and flickablity. However, the tank to bars is simply too close.

I really want another 600 and not a liter bike. The only reason I was interested in the 09 R1 was because the riding position is much better and it has an ABC power setting.

I love the lightness of the 600 and ability to rev it near redline without the front end coming up. After sitting on the new ZX6r, the bike's tank is longer than the 600r and I seem to fit very well on it. I don't want a liter bike, really. I had one and it is just not as fun as a 600 unless I can detune it to where I can rev it to redline without wheeling it coming out of corners. I like to keep the RPMs towards the 9-12k range.

[Homeslice]

Get an 04-05 gix 600 or 750 and pimp it out with a ton of parts. Those bikes had a longer reach than any Jap bike after that.

[TYEster]

Man, you keep flip-flopping.......first liter bikes, then 600's, then an EX500, now back to 600's?

LOL I've switched more than him in 2 years... I've owned 6 bikes in the time he's had his RR.

[TYEster]

Get an 04-05 gix 600 or 750 and pimp it out with a ton of parts. Those bikes had a longer reach than any Jap bike after that.

If you're going this route, I'd actually recommend an 07+ 600/750 full of parts. The 04/05 generation isn't too up to par with cool things from the factory like slipper clutch's and power... And comfort. But hey it's all personal preference.

[Homeslice]

If you're going this route, I'd actually recommend an 07+ 600/750 full of parts. The 04/05 generation isn't too up to par with cool things from the factory like slipper clutch's and power... And comfort. But hey it's all personal preference.

I was talking more about the riding position. The 04-05 has a longer reach, and longer fuel tank. So you can "feel" like you're pushing the bars more, which is kinda cool compared to today's 600's where you feel like you're just "hovering" over the bars.

[TYEster]

I was talking more about the riding position. The 04-05 has a longer reach, and longer fuel tank. So you can "feel" like you're pushing the bars more, which is kinda cool compared to today's 600's where you feel like you're just "hovering" over the bars.

Oh definitely. They are "bigger" feeling.

[Dave]

dont forget about the jumper mod if you go with the zx6r. especially if you like to play up top

[101lifts2]

Get an 04-05 gix 600 or 750 and pimp it out with a ton of parts. Those bikes had a longer reach than any Jap bike after that.

Yeah, but I want the big piston fork:lol

I can get a ZX6r 09 for 8999 OTD with the only mods may be a rear shock and race tires. The Gixxer is gonna need 1700 bucks in suspension bits, then the squid who owned it last prolly wheelied it, crashed it etc. etc.

[101lifts2]

I was talking more about the riding position. The 04-05 has a longer reach, and longer fuel tank. So you can "feel" like you're pushing the bars more, which is kinda cool compared to today's 600's where you feel like you're just "hovering" over the bars.


The 2009 Gixxer 750 was a pefect fit as well. I would say a hair better than the ZX6r, but you were def. more "in" the bike vs. on top of it. Being on top of it seems to make it feel more flickable.

[101lifts2]

dont forget about the jumper mod if you go with the zx6r. especially if you like to play up top


I heard the U.S. version is almost identical to the Euro version (within a few HP measured) unlike the 2008 model.

[101lifts2]

I bought a 2009 all black ZX6R last week for $7899 OTD. Thing is rockin, but the suspension dude told me the suspension is junk. It feels pretty damn good to me...

[Homeslice]

Pics? Which supension dude did you talk to? I'm sure he'll say every stock bike is junk, to convince people to pay for his services.

[marko138]

Pics? Which supension dude did you talk to? I'm sure he'll say every stock bike is junk, to convince people to pay for his services.
No doubt.

[z06boy]

Pics? Which supension dude did you talk to? I'm sure he'll say every stock bike is junk, to convince people to pay for his services.

Yep. I bet it's just fine for the street and occasional track days...just like most modern sportbikes.

[101lifts2]

Pics? Which supension dude did you talk to? I'm sure he'll say every stock bike is junk, to convince people to pay for his services.

LOL...Tije from Cyclemall.net

I put the BT003 Race on there and ran the setup that he gave me. I think the combo works very well, but not aweseome. You can feel when you start pushing it above 80mph the suspension doesn't contact the road as well. Honda did the same thing. This is just a function of stock components. They just aren't going to be all that great.

Tije told me the problem with the BPF front end is that there is almost no low speed compression. So...when you dive into the corner you can be late as fuck on the brakes (the front doesn't dive), but when you drive out of the corner, the front rises too fast causing highsides. He said a bunch of guys on the track were experiencing this.

[101lifts2]

Pics? Which supension dude did you talk to? I'm sure he'll say every stock bike is junk, to convince people to pay for his services.

I will say this, for stock suspension this is probably the best I've ridden in a bike that wasn't equipped with Ohlins stock. The front and rear track each other quite well.

You start to see the need for aftermarket when ur pushing it hard, though.

[101lifts2]

Yep. I bet it's just fine for the street and occasional track days...just like most modern sportbikes.

Yeah, no doubt. Seriously the components are very very good for stock.

The OEMs are making suspension that actually works out of the box these days. However, when you want to ride harder without the fear of low or highsiding due to the suspension, you need to have it rebuilt.

Actually, the suspension is pretty stiff for strickly street use.

[Homeslice]

Tije told me the problem with the BPF front end is that there is almost no low speed compression. So...when you dive into the corner you can be late as fuck on the brakes (the front doesn't dive),

Wait, if there's no dive, then the forks have a LOT of low-speed compression damping.

but when you drive out of the corner, the front rises too fast causing highsides

If it rises too fast, then there's not enough low-speed REBOUND damping.

[Trip]

still no pics in this thread, lame

[tached1000rr]

still no pics in this thread, lame

werd.....

[101lifts2]

Wait, if there's no dive, then the forks have a LOT of low-speed compression damping.



If it rises too fast, then there's not enough low-speed REBOUND damping.

You can barely push the suspension up and down sitting there (and the front preload is only 1 turn from full soft out of like 20 or something turns).

It has high and low speed compression damping (but only the typical high speed is adjustable). This is what he told me...who am I to argue since he is one of the best suspension gurus in socal.

I explained to him that under 80 or so the suspension feels real good, but over that, the bike cannot compensate for bumps fast enough and it feels stiff / like its not feeling the road as good as it should. He told me that is as good as it gets because the front end is just too stiff. And fuck it is stiff.

still no pics in this thread, lame

My camera eats batteries for some odd reason. I'll have to buy more batteries (again) and take a couple of snaps. Just for u Tripster.

[Trip]

good lol

[101lifts2]

Wait, if there's no dive, then the forks have a LOT of low-speed compression damping......

That is the problem when ur exiting the corners. Diving into corners isn't all that bad.

[Dave]

he is aware that that fork is bpf right? I mean i dont know if it adjusts different but hell it might.

[Homeslice]

You can barely push the suspension up and down sitting there (and the front preload is only 1 turn from full soft out of like 20 or something turns).
Did you get it measured and set up for you? I find it hard to believe that someone like you who's 190-200 lbs would only need 1 turn on the preload. Seems like it would cause the suspension to "top out" over bumps and whenever you power out of turns.
the bike cannot compensate for bumps fast enough .
Which is because either it's topping out, or there's too much high-speed damping.

[101lifts2]

he is aware that that fork is bpf right? I mean i dont know if it adjusts different but hell it might.


Yes of course...bpf is just more expensive to rebuild. lol

[101lifts2]

Did you get it measured and set up for you? I find it hard to believe that someone like you who's 190-200 lbs would only need 1 turn on the preload. If your preload is too soft then it will cause the suspension to "top out" over bumps and when you drive out of turns.

Which is because either it's topping out, or there's too much high-speed damping.

This is not a conventional fork, remember. And yes he measured it and it barely moves.

[Homeslice]

All I'm saying is if you got proper sag with only 1 turn of preload from full soft, then they must be using one hell of a stiff spring rate. So that means anyone lighter than you would probably be forced to swap to lighter springs.

[101lifts2]

All I'm saying is if you got proper sag with only 1 turn of preload from full soft, then they must be using one hell of a stiff spring rate. So that means anyone lighter than you would probably be forced to swap to lighter springs.

The sag is not measured the same way as a cartridge type fork.

[Porkchop]

Did I miss pictures somewhere??? :scratch:

[Dave]

none were posted.

[ontwo]

Our dealership just dropped the 09 to $6999

[Homeslice]

because the 2010 is improved, right?

[marko138]

because the 2010 is improved, right?
Because the economy SUCKS.

[ontwo]

Because the economy SUCKS.

Bingo...we have a winner.

Kawaski slashed prices on all 09s. The 6r was 10,049 one day and 6,999 the next. No changes for the 2010 model.

[Homeslice]

No changes for the 2010 model.

So they claim.

We've all seen situations where the manufacturer changes something without saying so on their website, because they don't want to admit there was a problem with the prior year.

I thought I remember hearing they made a change for 2010, I'll do some digging.

[dReWpY]

damn thats almost a buell rebate

[marko138]

damn thats almost a buell rebate
Thats what I thought.