787 does high speed taxi

[Rider]

Finally, it's going to fly. First flight is tomorrow. Two years behind schedule, but it's almost complete.

http://www.vimeo.com/8142299

http://www.vimeo.com/8141721

[z06boy]

Nice !!

http://www.lasescapadas.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/boeing-787-dreamliner-passagierraum.jpg

[marko138]

Nice !!

http://www.lasescapadas.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/boeing-787-dreamliner-passagierraum.jpg
Pimp.

[Rider]

It's definitely a sweet plane.

[askmrjesus]

http://www.vimeo.com/8141721

If you listen closely, you can hear a Zippo lighter opening at 1:33 and closing at 1:37.

JC

[Particle Man]

with the piddley-ass airport I fly from every freakin' week I'll never see the inside of one of those :lol:

[sherri_chickie]

I want one of them, what routes will it fly I wonder.. time to plan a vacation!

[Rider]

I want one of them, what routes will it fly I wonder.. time to plan a vacation!

US to Asia will be most of the routes. You wont see them flying many US to US routes with the exception of Hawaii. US-Australia will also be on the regular routes. You might even see a few US-Europe routes but not many.

You have to remember, this plane was built to be very fuel efficient so you have to be in Cruise mode at altitude to see those fuel savings. Frequent takeoffs and landings on short routes won't gain you much.

[KSGregman]

It's about fucking time....we've been sitting on nearly a billion dollars worth of inventory related to that program for two years.

Hopefully there won't be any more surprises during the certification process and full rate production can begin next year. You guys should SEE the Dreamlifter..the heavily modified 747 Boeing uses to haul completed Section 41s out of Wichita...it's an impressive plane too.

[pdog]

Anyone else immediately think "Star Trek: the Next Generation"?

Except there's no way any actual airline would outfit their plane that way. Stuff 10 more chairs in there and you might have first class on a normal airline.

Nice !!

http://www.lasescapadas.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/boeing-787-dreamliner-passagierraum.jpg

[Rider]

Except there's no way any actual airline would outfit their plane that way. Stuff 10 more chairs in there and you might have first class on a normal airline.

Yes that is exactly how it will be laid out. This is a luxury liner, not a max capacity type plane.

[goof2]

It's about fucking time....we've been sitting on nearly a billion dollars worth of inventory related to that program for two years.

Hopefully there won't be any more surprises during the certification process and full rate production can begin next year. You guys should SEE the Dreamlifter..the heavily modified 747 Boeing uses to haul completed Section 41s out of Wichita...it's an impressive plane too.

Interesting, I'm surprised they have the Dreamlifter swing away at the tail instead of the nose. I would think it would make routing hydraulic and electrical runs to the tail a bit complex.

[LeeNetworX]

:yawn:

[KSGregman]

Interesting, I'm surprised they have the Dreamlifter swing away at the tail instead of the nose. I would think it would make routing hydraulic and electrical runs to the tail a bit complex.

There is NO WAY the Section 41 (nose, cockpit and forward fuselage) would fit inside the Dreamlifter if they attempted to load it via the nose. It just BARELY fits inside the extensively modified fuselage, as it is.

We've got the Carbon Fiber Facility line that manufactures the Section 41 of the 787 running again now...slowly...hoping to get up to full production rate early next year.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/KSGregman/Dream1.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/KSGregman/Dream2.jpg

[goof2]

There is NO WAY the Section 41 (nose, cockpit and forward fuselage) would fit inside the Dreamlifter if they attempted to load it via the nose. It just BARELY fits inside the extensively modified fuselage, as it is.

We've got the Carbon Fiber Facility line that manufactures the Section 41 of the 787 running again now...slowly...hoping to get up to full production rate early next year.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/KSGregman/Dream1.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/KSGregman/Dream2.jpg

I see what you are talking about.

Out of curiosity do you all buy the carbon fiber or make it within the company, and is it a wet layup or do you use a pre-preg process?

[Particle Man]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/KSGregman/Dream2.jpg

that thing looks like a pregnant guppy with wings :eek:

[Speedracer42]

Some industry people had told me that during some time of the design process they were offering a $10k bonus to employees who could save a pound of weight off the aircraft. Not sure the truth behind that. But it doesn't sound too far fetched

[Rider]

Some industry people had told me that during some time of the design process they were offering a $10k bonus to employees who could save a pound of weight off the aircraft. Not sure the truth behind that. But it doesn't sound too far fetched

Yes this is true. Not sure of the exact amount but they were offering a bonus.

[Dave]

that thing reminds me of the old super guppy

[Avatard]

OK, so obviously a guppy-type mod on a 747 platform is possible. That thing is in fact 3 stories tall, not two...so it begs the question:

The Dreamliner was a lightweight composite, energy efficient rethink for point-to-point travel from anywhere on Earth to anywhere on Earth...something that would allow airlines a complete rethink in how they "hub"...Airbus chose an alternate strategy, and chose to become the "big dog" in the commercial airline industry with the 380 double-decker...

...and pundits have argued that Boeing's strategy is now bound to pay off better, especially given the current industry outlook...

...but now that the Dreamliner is pretty much done, why doesn't Boeing just fit some new high bypass engines, lighter composite wings, and a pop-top addition to the venerable 747 airframe, and handily eat Airbus's lunch on both fronts?

[Homeslice]

:yawn:

:lol:

[Rider]

OK, so obviously a guppy-type mod on a 747 platform is possible. That thing is in fact 3 stories tall, not two...so it begs the question:

The Dreamliner was a lightweight composite, energy efficient rethink for point-to-point travel from anywhere on Earth to anywhere on Earth...something that would allow airlines a complete rethink in how they "hub"...Airbus chose an alternate strategy, and chose to become the "big dog" in the commercial airline industry with the 380 double-decker...

...and pundits have argued that Boeing's strategy is now bound to pay off better, especially given the current industry outlook...

...but now that the Dreamliner is pretty much done, why doesn't Boeing just fit some new high bypass engines, lighter composite wings, and a pop-top addition to the venerable 747 airframe, and handily eat Airbus's lunch on both fronts?

Not sure what Boeing has in the hopper on continuing to improve current airframes, but Airbus is doing this on the A350, an A330 derivative using lighter materials and more efficient engines.

[goof2]

OK, so obviously a guppy-type mod on a 747 platform is possible. That thing is in fact 3 stories tall, not two...so it begs the question:

The Dreamliner was a lightweight composite, energy efficient rethink for point-to-point travel from anywhere on Earth to anywhere on Earth...something that would allow airlines a complete rethink in how they "hub"...Airbus chose an alternate strategy, and chose to become the "big dog" in the commercial airline industry with the 380 double-decker...

...and pundits have argued that Boeing's strategy is now bound to pay off better, especially given the current industry outlook...

...but now that the Dreamliner is pretty much done, why doesn't Boeing just fit some new high bypass engines, lighter composite wings, and a pop-top addition to the venerable 747 airframe, and handily eat Airbus's lunch on both fronts?

I'm pretty sure the Dreamlifter wouldn't be able to handle the weight of the additional interior requirements (seats, floors, electronics, air conditioning ducting, overhead bins, etc.), additional passengers, and additional baggage. The aircraft is set up to fly around a portion of a completely empty fuselage made entirely out of composite. It is big, not dense. Additional passengers, with all the crap that goes with them, are dense (in more ways than one).

Boeing has also continuously modified the 747 with modern engine technology and weight savings. I doubt they could generate much further efficiencies from the airframe without starting over with a clean sheet design.

Factor in the questions that still exist about the A380, primarily the fact that only around 20 airports can handle the aircraft, and I'm not sure why Boeing would want to compete directly with the Airbus anyway.

[Rangerscott]

So how many polar bears does this thing kill?

If you listen closely, you can hear a Zippo lighter opening at 1:33 and closing at 1:37.

JC

Sounded like a knock off.

[Smittie61984]

Boring. I want a supersonic jet for long trips, not one that hauls more people to annoy me.

[Particle Man]

That's a hell of a wheelie :D

[Quick281]

It's about fucking time....we've been sitting on nearly a billion dollars worth of inventory related to that program for two years.

Hopefully there won't be any more surprises during the certification process and full rate production can begin next year. You guys should SEE the Dreamlifter..the heavily modified 747 Boeing uses to haul completed Section 41s out of Wichita...it's an impressive plane too.

That wouldn't make frequent trips to Anchorage would it? I am pretty sure I saw a modified 747 here when I was last in Anchorage.


Actually I am pretty sure it was here. It was insane to see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747_Large_Cargo_Freighter

[azoomm]

That's a hell of a wheelie :D

That was my first thought.

So how many polar bears does this thing kill?

:lol: That was my second.

[Avatard]

That wouldn't make frequent trips to Anchorage would it? I am pretty sure I saw a modified 747 here when I was last in Anchorage.


Actually I am pretty sure it was here. It was insane to see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747_Large_Cargo_Freighter

Didja read the bottom of that wiki page where they talk about a Cessna that hit this thing's wake? The guy recovered at 150 ft. He probably needed to change his shorts afterward.