Juice rant

[Avatard]

I read labels. Manufacturers apparently can't be trusted to state correctly on the front of the label what shit is, so I read the fine print.

One thing that chaps my ass with regularity [insert prune juice joke here] is bottled juice products.

Example...

Juice bottle label proclaims:

Cran-Raspberry
100% Juice

You might expect that to be Cranberry, and Raspberry juice...but a quick look at the ingredients list reveals a concoction that instead often begins with apple or white grape juices, listing Cranberry & Raspberry only further down the ingredients list.

Why is this allowed? Don't fucking tell me it's this kinda juice on the front, and then list the real deal on the back. That's bullshit. It's fucking bait-and-switch, and it's not allowed in any other form of sales...why juice???

WTF??

/rant

[Homeslice]

Apple and grape juice are the cheapest, which is why they do that.

If it was 100% cranberry juice, they would have said so. But they didn't --- they simply said 100% juice.

[TYEster]

Apple and grape juice are the cheapest, which is why they do that.

If it was 100% cranberry juice, they would have said so. But they didn't --- they simply said 100% juice.

+ 1

Always read the fine print.

[Homeslice]

+ 1


You just OWNED the stupid TWF ghey smiley

[Avatard]

Apple and grape juice are the cheapest, which is why they do that.

If it was 100% cranberry juice, they would have said so. But they didn't --- they simply said 100% juice.

Trust me, I know the game, and I always watch for it, but it's a deceptive sales practice essentially amounting to bait-and-switch, and it should not be allowed.

[Homeslice]

Trust me, I know the game, and I always watch for it, but it's a deceptive sales practice essentially amounting to bait-and-switch, and it should not be allowed.
Well, they're already required to list all the ingrediants, isn't that enough? Think of it this way, you and I already read the ingrediants, and we deserve to be rewarded for our intelligence. Let the Great Unwashed suffer for their stupidity.

Getting burned = a lesson in real life.

[TYEster]

Trust me, I know the game, and I always watch for it, but it's a deceptive sales practice essentially amounting to bait-and-switch, and it should not be allowed.

Welcome to America! :tremble:

[Avatard]

Why? Does America stand for deception? Or for making good money doing honest work?

[TYEster]

Why? Does America stand for deception? Or for making good money doing honest work?

For being owned by a juice bottle label :lol:

[Avatard]

They don't own me, but they do piss me off, and make me grumble, because I know a lot of folks don't read the ingredients list, and just [mistakenly] assume they can trust the big label in front.

They shouldn't be allowed to grossly misrepresent the product that way.

[Homeslice]

They don't own me, but they do piss me off, and make me grumble, because I know a lot of folks don't read the ingredients list, and just [mistakenly] assume they can trust the big label in front.

They shouldn't be allowed to grossly misrepresent the product that way.

I feel the same way most of the time, but other times I take pride in my ability to rise above the Great Unwashed and discover the truth. And I should be rewarded for that ability.

[Avatard]

Would'ja really feel less intelligent by comparison if the juice were properly labeled?

;)

[TYEster]

They don't own me, but they do piss me off, and make me grumble, because I know a lot of folks don't read the ingredients list, and just [mistakenly] assume they can trust the big label in front.

They shouldn't be allowed to grossly misrepresent the product that way.

Misrepresented or misinterpreted?

If it says 100% juice and I read 100% juice, then I see no crime.

[Avatard]

Misleading.

[shmike]

'tard, did you buy the juice?

Did it taste like you think Cran-Raspberry should taste?

Have you ever had juice extracted solely from Cranberries and Raspberries?

[101lifts2]

I thought this was a thread about steriods...such a letdown. lol

I stopped drinking that shit about 10 years ago....and really it is just overpriced sugar.

Buy a juicer and use real fruit to make juice. It tastes so much better. Just add water until you get the sweetness u want.

Are you sure u didn't get the Cran-Apple instead? lol

[Dave]

Misleading.

name on the front is just a title. a brand if you were. if the ingredients label was incorrect you'd have a gripe. we DO NOT need bs english style overreaching truth in advertising laws. 'course then it will be sold as crn/raz

[Rangerscott]

It's kinda like a website that claims to be 100% porn. Well, when you click on it, you get 80% gay porn mixed in with 20% donkey bj's.

You dont get that 100% taste you wanted.

[Avatard]

'tard, did you buy the juice?

Did it taste like you think Cran-Raspberry should taste?

Have you ever had juice extracted solely from Cranberries and Raspberries?

I didn't buy the juice, it wasn't what it said on the label in front.

I have had pure juice blends, in fact, my favorite is a Grape/Cherry Welch's blend that has...get this: Grape and Cherry juice. Radical, I know.

[Homeslice]

'tard, did you buy the juice?

Did it taste like you think Cran-Raspberry should taste?

Have you ever had juice extracted solely from Cranberries and Raspberries?

There's lots of pure cranberry juice you can buy :shrug:

Doesn't taste all that great, but it's an acquired taste for some.

[Avatard]

BTW, I was just using a recent label I had read of Cran-Raspberry as an example. I have no idea if a pure blend of those two would be palatable. That wasn't really my point. It was just about the fact that the juice that makes up THE BULK of what you're potentially buying may not even be what it says on the front of the label. That's deception.

The most egregious example of this that comes to mind is a juice blend I got once...admittedly in a hurry, and not paying attention to the fine print...got it home and it tasted like utter motherfucking ass. Turns out it was primarily pineapple juice, which has a very strong taste, and it totally fucking dominated whatever flavor the ass monkeys in marketing had portrayed on the the label...it tasted like little more than pineapple juice, which I fucking hate, and believe me, their 800 number got a call.

I gaves dem some consumer feedback...

[LeeNetworX]

'tard, you are ready for the red pill.

[Particle Man]

fillers have ended up being the American way

[askmrjesus]

'tard, you are ready for the red pill.

Fuck that.

The red pill is 40% blue pill.

JC

[Trip]

Fuck that.

The red pill is 40% blue pill.

JC

lol

[unknownroad]

BTW, I was just using a recent label I had read of Cran-Raspberry as an example. I have no idea if a pure blend of those two would be palatable.

So you were just doing a juice label audit at your local supermarket? :scratch: You're kinda coming off like one of those old ladies who watches Family Guy just so they can write letters about how much it offended them.

[Avatard]

No, my GF likes cranberry blends, and I was looking for one that wasn't 80% HFC.

But I buy juice all of the time, and I see this to death.

[Dave]

you could always make and sell your own juice, but that would make you an evil capitalist

[shmike]

you could always make and sell your own juice, but that would make you an evil capitalist

:na:

[Dave]

:na:

every time you make a profit god kills a kitten..

[Trip]

Yeah, advertising is shitty, always read the fine print

you could always make and sell your own juice, but that would make you an evil capitalist

Reminds me of Micheal Moore's movie about the hatred of Capitalism, but he is making loads off of the system with the movie. :lol: Fat Bastard

[Dave]

hey schmike, how the heck did you get that image to show in mobile anyway? Methinks something broke

[shmike]

hey schmike, how the heck did you get that image to show in mobile anyway? Methinks something broke

I just clicked on it, like normal. :idk: .

[Dave]

huh...wierd. Wait, is it a smiley? That would do it

[101lifts2]

Yeah, advertising is shitty, always read the fine print



Reminds me of Micheal Moore's movie about the hatred of Capitalism, but he is making loads off of the system with the movie. :lol: Fat Bastard

That smuck was on Hannity trying to defend himself when asked about how he could demonize the same capitalism that made him rich. Then Hannity told him to give 60% of his money to the poor since apparently he thinks that the rich aren't paying their fair share. As expected he weaseled his way out of answering either.

[Particle Man]

That smuck .

what's a "smuck"? :lol

[askmrjesus]

what's a "smuck"? :lol

101's a Goy. He can't spell schmuck. :lol:

JC

[shmike]

huh...wierd. Wait, is it a smiley? That would do it

Yes sir.

[tached1000rr]

I thought this was going to be another thread about steroids:D

[Dave]

I thought this was going to be another thread about steroids:D

we already have a tiger woods thread :lol:

[Particle Man]

101's a Goy. He can't spell schmuck. :lol:

JC

:lmao:

[AquaPython]

a) mixing cran and ras pure juice , is not that good and not what you would expect it to be. super tart, and not sweet , as they are berries with low sugar content.
b) apple juice and grape juice is LOADED with natural sugar. they use this to sweeten the product.
c) they also use it to hone the flavor to what the panel agrees most people would like.

[Homeslice]

c) they also use it to hone the flavor to what the panel agrees most people would like.

MOST people are fucking stupid.

[Smittie61984]

Hahahahaha. I'd hate to be Avatard's congressman.

"Dear Congressman

This juice at Whole Foods is bullshit, and the company should be brought to justice"

[anthonyk]

I don't get what the big deal is. Most people I know who care about "100% juice" (myself included) are looking for 0% HFCS, not some kind of assurance that the flavors on the front are the only juices inside. The stuff tastes like cranberries and raspberries, and is sweetened with other juices. So?

[Homeslice]

lol......similar concept here:

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/twiggys-photoshopped-olay-ads-banned-in-england-554961/

[Rangerscott]

Heard the cooking guy that does the welch's grape juice and in the commercial he ends with, "100% grape juice." Might wanna check that one out.

I did buy some apple juice at a gas station and it had different "juices" listed but that wasnt the weird part. The concentrates came from US, Germany, China, and 5 other countries. So what exactly is "concentrate?"

[Avatard]

The Welch's Grape/Cherry is my current favorite. It's made of just grape and cherry juice - it's legit.

As for why they concentrate juiices, it's because 1) shipping water around costs money. and 2) Concentrating juices raises the sugar content, and minimizes the need for preservatives.

[Avatard]

I don't get what the big deal is. Most people I know who care about "100% juice" (myself included) are looking for 0% HFCS, not some kind of assurance that the flavors on the front are the only juices inside. The stuff tastes like cranberries and raspberries, and is sweetened with other juices. So?

So, sometimes the flavor does get thrown. Full disclosure would be nice.

The example I gave where they tried to "sweeten" with pineapple juice resulted in something that tasted nothing like the flavor portrayed on the front.

If a bottle of juice is comprised PREDOMINANTLY of something, it should probably be listed on the front of the label, not hidden in the ingredients list.

[Rangerscott]

The Welch's Grape/Cherry is my current favorite. It's made of just grape and cherry juice - it's legit.

As for why they concentrate juiices, it's because 1) shipping water around costs money. and 2) Concentrating juices raises the sugar content, and minimizes the need for preservatives.


I'll try to remember and see what brand this cherry juice that I get. Man it's good.

[Homeslice]

I don't get what the big deal is. Most people I know who care about "100% juice" (myself included) are looking for 0% HFCS, not some kind of assurance that the flavors on the front are the only juices inside. The stuff tastes like cranberries and raspberries, and is sweetened with other juices. So?

There are plenty of people who want pure cranberry juice (what if they just like tart-tasting stuff? and also it's supposed to be good for bladder infections or something). Also, if someone wants to have a cranberry vodka or whatever that drink is called, wouldn't they want pure cranberry? Regardless, you can find 100% pure cranberry at practically any grocery store.

[Avatard]

Remember I said there outta be a law against labeling shit as though a juice were predominant in a blend, when it's really not?

Well, guess what? Apparently there is a law; the Lanham act, and one maker of shitty fucking juice is suing another, over that exact issue...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/15/pom-sues-minute-maid-for_n_647420.html

"POM has filed a lawsuit against Minute Maid's parent company, Coca-Cola, under the Lanham Act for false advertising, claiming the juice's name and label make it appear as if pomegranate is the main ingredient, though the blend actually contains less than 0.3 percent of pomegranate juice and is over 99 percent apple and grape juice."

Well no shit!

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/DanElHombre/smilies/popcorn.gif

[Evadd]

funny that they're saying Minute Maid is "exploiting health benefits of pomegranate" , since i'm pretty sure POM was the POS company told to knock off its baseless claims about pomegranate juice being able to cure things like herpes, cancer, and stupidity.

[Homeslice]

Pomengranate = bs, it is no better for you than blueberry or blackberry

[OneSickPsycho]

Pomengranate = bs, it is no better for you than blueberry or blackberry

I brought some blueberries and grapes for lunch today! MMMMMMMmmmmm!

[Avatard]

...And in similar news:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39094698/ns/today-foodwine

[njchopper87]

Yea.. I noticed recently that 95% of the syrup on shelves are corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, water, that gum shit, flavoring and sugar. If you want the real deal you gotta pay for it.. and it isn't cheap either.

[Homeslice]

...And in similar news:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39094698/ns/today-foodwine

Where's the issue? "All natural" simply means that there are no artificial ingredients. And in this case, there aren't.

If the other companies want to distinguish themselves as "real maple syrup" then the burden is on them to do a better job of advertising that.

[Homeslice]

On a related note....fake blueberries in your cereal & muffins!

http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/blueberry-imposters-fake-blueberries-may-be-in-your-packaged-foods-2446815/ :lol