Over200's Busa Pics and Stats!

[Over200]

I hope this is the right place...sorry if Im wrong!

In short!!

The Tear Down

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The Build Up

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Here's a heat cycle I just finished

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[marko138]

Damn, those are quite the pics.

[fpzx10]

Dear Lord, how much $$$ you got in that Busa?

[marko138]

Dear Lord, how much $$$ you got in that Busa?
We probly don't want to know....

[Trip]

I have seen that thing in person, lots and lots o money.

[Over200]

Dear Lord, how much $$$ you got in that Busa?

@ this point I try not to even think about it!!..I can tell you when in the saddle...It's not even a thought!!...Times like now Im sick to my stomach....I have a SERIOUS Problem!!....I need HELP!!

[Trip]

@ this point I try not to even think about it!!..I can tell you when in the saddle...It's not even a thought!!...Times like now Im sick to my stomach....I have a SERIOUS Problem!!....I need HELP!!

You don't need help, you need to be idolized. I wish I could put that much money into my ride.

[Over200]

You don't need help, you need to be idolized. I wish I could put that much money into my ride.

LOL...NAHH...Actually you can...It just takes Time, Commitment, Sacrifice....and Lots of Ramon & Crackers day and night!!!...It's ALL about what makes you happy in life....This is what does it for me!!!...I have No Family...No Kids....etc.

[the chi]

freakin awesome pics dude, looks like a great job, congrats on her!!

Now one question...why is this in the Contests and POTM section?

[marko138]

LOL...NAHH...Actually you can...It just takes Time, Commitment, Sacrifice....and Lots of Ramon & Crackers day and night!!!...It's ALL about what makes you happy in life....This is what does it for me!!!...I have No Family...No Kids....etc.
Damn right you don't have kids. If you did you wouldn't be spending money on the Busa like that. :beer: to no kids. :lol:

[Trip]

freakin awesome pics dude, looks like a great job, congrats on her!!

Now one question...why is this in the Contests and POTM section?

I think he entered the pics into the potm contest.

[Over200]

freakin awesome pics dude, looks like a great job, congrats on her!!

Now one question...why is this in the Contests and POTM section?

I don't know that's where someone last night said to post them...Feel free to move them to the appropriate section!...Sorry.


....and Thanks group for your kind words!:dthumb:

Damn right you don't have kids. If you did you wouldn't be spending money on the Busa like that. :beer: to no kids. :lol:

LOL!!...It's funny I will ride this thing as Insanely as Humanly possible.....I'll go Skyjumping anytime....No problem.......Now Kids!!...That SCARES ME!!!!!:panic:

Trip that would be me with kids in your Sig!!:lmao:

[the chi]

started you your own thread...feel free to continue on with pics and info!

[byron12]

Yes that is a bad ass project as for kids screw kids we already have enough as it is....

[Mr Lefty]

200 you related to GasMan? :lol: fuck both of you mofo's have the price of a house wrapped up in your bikes!

fuck'n awesome though! I like the GSXR1480R :lol:

[t-homo]

Wow. That thing is incredible. Not that I am into drag strips, but I wonder what that would run at one.

[JK]

NICE bike!

[marko138]

I hope this is the right place...sorry if Im wrong!

In short!!

The Tear Down

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/ovr200/DSC00008.jpg


I love this pic. It just looks really cool without the engine. Bare bones style.

[DLIT]

@ this point I try not to even think about it!!..I can tell you when in the saddle...It's not even a thought!!...Times like now Im sick to my stomach....I have a SERIOUS Problem!!....I need HELP!!

I'll still smoke you on the track.

[marko138]

I'll still smoke you on the track.
Still taking shit. I love it.

[Over200]

I'll still smoke you on the track.


LOL!!!..There he is!!....Well we BOTH know that Depends on WHICH track!!!....and I don't Drag Race...Not my Thing...Just to be Clear!!

[Phenix_Rider]

LOL!!!..There he is!!....Well we BOTH know that Depends on WHICH track!!!....and I don't Drag Race...Not my Thing...Just to be Clear!!

How can you NOT take that beast to the strip?! WTF do you do besides work on it!?

[DLIT]

LOL!!!..There he is!!....Well we BOTH know that Depends on WHICH track!!!....and I don't Drag Race...Not my Thing...Just to be Clear!!

Any track.

[PhiSig1071]

Any track.

Daytona. Nascar Oval.

Bro, very sharp bike.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Daytona. Nascar Oval.

Bro, very sharp bike.

cant even imagine how fun that thing would be on a nascar loop. and after a few laps when your side wall is frickin melted off, just turn around and go the other way.



some of the best pics of a busa i've ever seen.

[Smittie61984]

Damn dude. I'm not a Busa fan(Thanks to the 8ft stretches and 800lbs of chrome that I get to see) but that is sweet.

Is it streetable? I saw the tag but could you take it into town and feel comfortable?

At a local shop there was a guy with a turbo Hayabusa(Not blinged but for pure drag that is the stock frame and such) that they got to do 253hp on the Dyno and were fixing to up the boost to 12lbs and where hoping for close to 300hp at the wheel.

[Gas Man]

200 you related to GasMan? :lol: fuck both of you mofo's have the price of a house wrapped up in your bikes!

fuck'n awesome though! I like the GSXR1480R :lol:

I resemble that remark.

Looks good over! I just did a complete rebuild on my chop. Different strokes between you and I but same compulsion!

[Over200]

Any track.

Step AWAY From The CRACK PIPE!!!!!!

Damn dude. I'm not a Busa fan(Thanks to the 8ft stretches and 800lbs of chrome that I get to see) but that is sweet.

Is it streetable? I saw the tag but could you take it into town and feel comfortable?

At a local shop there was a guy with a turbo Hayabusa(Not blinged but for pure drag that is the stock frame and such) that they got to do 253hp on the Dyno and were fixing to up the boost to 12lbs and where hoping for close to 300hp at the wheel.

Absolutely Streetable...This machine was built to keep anything that wants to catch up @ a distance I feel comfortable with....You don't have to think hard to know what Im talking about!:trip:

Daytona. Nascar Oval.

Bro, very sharp bike.

Daytona is EXACTLY what I had in mind...I think that would be the fairest track and poor ole DLIT wouldn't be a Happy Camper....Although everyone would think he was Camping!!:zowned:

[DLIT]

An oval? Weak. Seriously...baddest Busa I've ever seen. Proly looks better in person, too.

[Over200]

An oval? Weak. Seriously...baddest Busa I've ever seen. Proly looks better in person, too.

It's not just oval!!...Your forgeting the infield before you get to the oval...Both worlds combined!!

Thanks DLIT...good to hear from you again!!!:dthumb:

[Trip]

This Daytona

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9VWkkzIYXs

[DLIT]

Over2 couldn't handle the speed his bike puts out on that banking. I'll still take him.

[z06boy]

Very impressive indeed...thanks for posting the pics. It shows a lot of time and commitment not to mention $$$$. Kickazz project man.:dthumb:

[Trip]

Over2 couldn't handle the speed his bike puts out on that banking. I'll still take him.

banking is a different sort of animal. It's crazy going that fast on a bike on banking. Nashville was intense and it's not near that banked.

[DLIT]

banking is a different sort of animal. It's crazy going that fast on a bike on banking. Nashville was intense and it's not near that banked.

That's what I'm saying. His speed won't be an advantage. He can't use it.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

pissing contest here?

[Over200]

:draggin:

[Trip]

That's what I'm saying. His speed won't be an advantage. He can't use it.

once he gets use to it, he would. That track has a lot grip and is designed for high speeds in the banking.

[marko138]

My toilet bowl is banked for highspeeds.

[Over200]

The one factor that DLIT just doesn't get as Most people don't until they see first hand is my rate of acceleration he would not only look like he was in reverse he would feel like he was also...You must know the animal your dealing with before you can even attempt capture!..This theory holds true for Man & Machine!!

[OneSickPsycho]

Where's the dyno numbers?

[Over200]

Where's the dyno numbers?


Haven't Dynoed yet after new build but this was the sheet from the prior build and remeber this is with timing pulled from everything for reliability & longevity...I got about 9k pretty Hard miles out of the motor and the only thing that went wrong was a burnt exhaust valve....That won't happen this time!!



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[OneSickPsycho]

What's your guesstimate for this time around?

[PhiSig1071]

In 3k rpm it goes from 100 to 300 hp, and in 4.5k rpm it goes from 100 to 400. Damn I'll bet that's fun to ride.

[dReWpY]

again:
:jd:

[OneSickPsycho]

Yeah... from about 6k to 9k is when the poop happens.... from about 8k to redline is when you write your will.

[PhiSig1071]

I do believe around 8k rpm I'd be sucking seat leather hard enough to taste it.

[JoJoYZF]

What's your guesstimate for this time around?

Its in his other thread. He said something about 525-550 on a conservative tune and the set up would probably be able to hit 600 if he wanted to.

[DLIT]

The one factor that DLIT just doesn't get as Most people don't until they see first hand is my rate of acceleration he would not only look like he was in reverse he would feel like he was also...You must know the animal your dealing with before you can even attempt capture!..This theory holds true for Man & Machine!!

I can only imagine. You couldn't handle that acceleration on the banking though.

[Over200]

I can only imagine. You couldn't handle that acceleration on the banking though.

You under estimate me my friend!

[DLIT]

You under estimate me my friend!

Good. It only makes me faster.

[Over200]

LOL!!:wink:

[Over200]

Few shots of some internal goodies!

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[upshift]

Freakin awesome dude :rockwoot: Keep up the good work!

[NONE_too_SOFT]

someday we wont even have gears, everything will be controlled by flux capacitors and shit.

[upshift]

someday we wont even have gears, everything will be controlled by flux capacitors and shit.

wouldnt the shit kinda gunk up the capacitator?

[NONE_too_SOFT]

no, cause it runs on shit. garbage. whatever. remember BTTF2?

[upshift]

remember BTTF2?

No not really :lol:

[NONE_too_SOFT]

omg... am i getting old?

[t-homo]

Nah I have that shit on VHS. Pretty hardcore.

[Mr Lefty]

omg... am i getting old?

no... he's just that fucking young... probably still watches tellitubies or some shit

[PiZdETS]

Sickkk bike dude.

I demand story time. What's it like to ride? What have you raced? How fast do you have to be going for the rear tire to be able to handle full throttle?

Amuse me with tales of your turbo busa shenanigans good sir.

[DLIT]

Have you at least won any shows or anything? You put far too much money in that bike.

[PiZdETS]

Have you at least won any shows or anything? You put far too much money in that bike.
No shit. I have a sneaking suspicion that the front suspension and brake setup alone cost more than my bike.
Baller. Status.

[DLIT]

No shit. I have a sneaking suspicion that the front suspension and brake setup alone cost more than my bike.
Baller. Status.

I can guarantee you they did.

[Over200]

Have you at least won any shows or anything? You put far too much money in that bike.

Nahhh..Im not into that parking lot crap at all!!...Actually if I go to some kind of bike night or whatever I Hide!!..I'll tell a buddy Im with to say it's his bike and answer the questions...Im very Crowd phobic around people I don't know..pretty much a Loner...Recluse!!...No Family..No Kids...Friends I can count on one hand and have a finger or two left over!...and actually as far as write ups..Ya know I was real excited after my last build..Took some serious Blood Sweat & Tears not to mention serious sacrifice...I was really proud of my accomplishment....So I contacted a few mags for a write up...what a joke!!!...They where like nobody wants to see that...They want Chrome.Paint..Blah Blah Blah....Ok so now just like sonny said it best...Now you CAN'T have a write up/photo...Go SCREW!!!..So if I post on a board it's for the viewing pleasure of those interested...I could care less about the rest..They can't even comprehend what they are looking at!...No Clue!!!..For those that can..Those are the true sportbikers that have it in their Blood like I!:dthumb:

Sickkk bike dude.

I demand story time. What's it like to ride? What have you raced? How fast do you have to be going for the rear tire to be able to handle full throttle?

Amuse me with tales of your turbo busa shenanigans good sir.


Oh I have some tales alright....Thats ALLOT of typing though!!...I didn't say Helo Avoidance equipped for nothing!!:trip::wink:

[DLIT]

No shit. Those mags are 100% garbage. We don't know shit about performance. Only shiny stuff.

[Over200]

No shit. Those mags are 100% garbage. We don't know shit about performance. Only shiny stuff.

Probably the only mag i wouldn't mind a write up would be PB but I've never contacted them....Of course Spiegler is pretty excited about the new line setup..To have it out on the street and not just the GP bikes...I will tell you this.. the operation/function of those fittings is really amazing!!...I LOVE Technology on the performance end...DLIT you would really appreciate it!

Im also really excited about being able to use my suspension as it was intended....Look what I finally found!!...It took some serious research and homework....It's not even listed in their regular catalog!!...Won't even stick out past my fairing!!!...AWWWE SHEEET!!!!...There's gonna be some Seriously CRAZY Video this year!!!:dthumb::rockout::rockout:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RX-4130-1

[upshift]

no... he's just that fucking young... probably still watches tellitubies or some shit

nah they dont come on anymore so I have to stick to power rangers

[dReWpY]

whats scary is you can actually out run a cop helicopter with that damn thing

[Trip]

Nice find on the filter, that other one was a lean hazard.

[JoJoYZF]

whats scary is you can actually out run a cop helicopter with that damn thing

Yeah no shit

[Over200]

whats scary is you can actually out run a cop helicopter with that damn thing

Not Scary!!!......Actually quiet Amusing!!...Of course I absolutely DO NOT condone that type of behavior!!:pat:

[the chi]

okay, call me a girl, while I admire the work, blood and tears that went into this beast...

WHY?

What possessed you to do it? Why did you want to?

I am legitimately curious.

[dReWpY]

why the hell not???!!!

kinda like riding to Maryland for a set of turn signals, cant really say why many of us do alot of the shit we do, just cause we can

[Over200]

okay, call me a girl, while I admire the work, blood and tears that went into this beast...

WHY?

What possessed you to do it? Why did you want to?

I am legitimately curious.

Honestly...I've always been into Speed and Danger my whole life...I mean I was a Maniac on my Big Wheel @ 5.....Funny thing is I've also never been into drag Racing either ( Bikes )...I've always Admired GR...Incredible skill w/ a very High tolerance for Danger!!..I think the same Blood runs through my veins!!....and though my skill is much beneath The Man...Im not too shabby!!...Im a Road Guy..I have an unsatisfied appetite for Insane, Twisting, open highway..I have plans for some incredible roads and highways out west...Utah...Arizona..which i plan on hiring some air in for aerial view...So in short I wanted a machine that gives me 110% confidence for Full Unhesitant Commitment...@ any given time on any given day!!...Control is a very exhilarating feeling and you must have a machine that can support that in every aspect!

why the hell not???!!!

kinda like riding to Maryland for a set of turn signals, cant really say why many of us do alot of the shit we do, just cause we can


Because I know Im NUTS...I would never want to be the influence for serious bodily injury to any other rider out there...Sad to say I have seen guy's lose their life cause they wanted to catch or keep up...It was horrible...which is pretty much why Im a loner...especially when I ride.....Full Gear All Business!...Im not out for a Sunday cruise!:panic:

[PiZdETS]

Noticed what looks like a water injection kit in the third pic on the exposed tail section, is this right? How does it operate?
Might be a bitch to put together but could we get a mod list? I also noticed the total kaos transmission cover which looks much larger than stock- what all have you done to the transmission? Is the turbo kit from superkaos? How was the quality/installation?
I used to lurk on the superkaos forums.


And finally, exactly how fast have you had it up to?

[WARputer]

Over 200.....show them the old set up when you had the undertail exhaust .....that Busa friggin' ROCKS !!!!

[OneSickPsycho]

why the hell not???!!!

kinda like riding to Maryland for a set of turn signals, cant really say why many of us do alot of the shit we do, just cause we can

I told someone about that last night and they looked at me like I was retarded... Some people just don't get it.

[JoJoYZF]

Noticed what looks like a water injection kit in the third pic on the exposed tail section, is this right? How does it operate?
Might be a bitch to put together but could we get a mod list? I also noticed the total kaos transmission cover which looks much larger than stock- what all have you done to the transmission? Is the turbo kit from superkaos? How was the quality/installation?
I used to lurk on the superkaos forums.


And finally, exactly how fast have you had it up to?

It may be in his other thread but I know he said 238mph gps verified and he said something about going for the world record.

[ceo012384]

Jesus christ that thing is ridiculous. Excellent work, my friend. You really know your shit.

[Lamnidae]

finally took the time to view the pics @ home.


Damn, nice build brother..... Ride the fuck on! :rockout:

[Over200]

Thanks Gents!:dthumb:

[WARputer]

Hmmmmm...my busa sucks ! :lol:

[Lamnidae]

Hmmmmm...my busa sucks ! :lol:

nah. the only Busa that sucks is the one that's either A) not out for a ride or B) in the scrap pile. Your busa's just fine bro.

[OneSickPsycho]

nah. the only Busa that sucks is the one that's either A) not out for a ride or B) in the scrap pile. Your busa's just fine bro.

Yeah, but relatively speaking... he's correct. All of our bikes suck compared to that thing.

[Lamnidae]

Yeah, but relatively speaking... he's correct. All of our bikes suck compared to that thing.


I agree, that thing is a beast....

[WARputer]

Yeah, but relatively speaking... he's correct. All of our bikes suck compared to that thing.


Yup....:iagree:

[Over200]

Seriously Guy's Nobody's Bike Sucks unless your on a Harley!!...No pun intended Gas Man.....Hell 2 weeks ago I had the brand new speed Triple for a weekend....I had some Low End Fun...and the bike looks PIMP to boot!!...More about the rider than the ride...Hell I'll ride with anyone on this board unless you ride like an irresponsible jerk-off!!..There is a time and place for everything!:dthumb:

[Gas Man]

That's ok Over.... the chop isn't HD... but the wife make take offense...

[Lamnidae]

Seriously Guy's Nobody's Bike Sucks unless your on a Harley!!...No pun intended Gas Man.....Hell 2 weeks ago I had the brand new speed Triple for a weekend....I had some Low End Fun...and the bike looks PIMP to boot!!...More about the rider than the ride...Hell I'll ride with anyone on this board unless you ride like an irresponsible jerk-off!!..There is a time and place for everything!:dthumb:

Damn.... how'd ya get that hookup?

Those Speed Triples just have "I'm gonna beat your fucking ass cause I'm a hooligan" written all over them. I could see OSP pimpin' one.

[OneSickPsycho]

Damn.... how'd ya get that hookup?

Those Speed Triples just have "I'm gonna beat your fucking ass cause I'm a hooligan" written all over them. I could see OSP pimpin' one.

Next rig will be a motard. Nothing is more hooligan than a motard.

[Over200]

Damn.... how'd ya get that hookup?

Those Speed Triples just have "I'm gonna beat your fucking ass cause I'm a hooligan" written all over them. I could see OSP pimpin' one.

I got some peeps on my side @ a Dealership!!:dthumb:..Ran it through there Demo program.:rockout:....and it does look straight up hooligan and handles very well....Motards are very cool also but a triple will Smoke it on the road!...The Stock suspension and brakes were pretty impressive!

[OneSickPsycho]

I got some peeps on my side @ a Dealership!!:dthumb:..Ran it through there Demo program.:rockout:....and it does look straight up hooligan and handles very well....Motards are very cool also but a triple will Smoke it on the road!...The Stock suspension and brakes were pretty impressive!

On a straight road... who the fuck rides those anyway?

Motard for me = track slut / daily commuter... something I can just beat the living shit out of and it'll like it.

[Over200]

On a straight road... who the fuck rides those anyway?

Motard for me = track slut / daily commuter... something I can just beat the living shit out of and it'll like it.

Not on a straight road...Who said anything about Straight??....A twisting road....Bout the only place the motard would have an up is a close Tight Track...Not Hatin @ all....I Love motards personally....The Aprilla is Super PIMP!!....I would Black it all out...with really Trick Wheels!!:rockout:

[Lamnidae]

Not on a straight road...Who said anything about Straight??....A twisting road....Bout the only place the motard would have an up is a close Tight Track...Not Hatin @ all....I Love motards personally....The Aprilla is Super PIMP!!....I would Black it all out...with really Trick Wheels!!:rockout:

i like your style.

[OneSickPsycho]

Not on a straight road...Who said anything about Straight??....A twisting road....Bout the only place the motard would have an up is a close Tight Track...Not Hatin @ all....I Love motards personally....The Aprilla is Super PIMP!!....I would Black it all out...with really Trick Wheels!!:rockout:

I don't take turns over 100mph on the street.

[dReWpY]

lies

[Lamnidae]

I don't take turns over 100mph on the street.

..... really?

lies

heh. :zowned:


Called out by a drewp peacock. lol

[OneSickPsycho]

lies

It's the truth fucker... You've never seen me take a turn at anything over about 85...

[dReWpY]

i cant say the same...

[OneSickPsycho]

i cant say the same...

Well, I've never seen you take a turn over 100...

[dReWpY]

only once that i noticed and paid attention to, it was on the road that had the camp ground, near tar hallow

google it mother fucker:"Park Rd 3/S Ridge Rd @39.387162, -82.766681"

[OneSickPsycho]

I don't care enough to Google it... I believe you are dumb enough to do it.

[dReWpY]

thank you, i think.... but i was meaning to look up what camp ground it was awhile ago, i want to list the cool places i have been and this was def one of them

[Over200]

I don't take turns over 100mph on the street.

I can respect that...Sheeet we're in em over 100 practically touching bars!

[Dnyce]

that is fuckin sweet. i wish i had the money to do that, cuz i'd love to ride that thing at the strip.

good job on that

[ceo012384]

Hell I'll ride with anyone on this board unless you ride like an irresponsible jerk-off!!
Well I just AM an irresponsible jerk-off. Does that count?
Motard for me = track slut / daily commuter... something I can just beat the living shit out of and it'll like it.
Motards require more maintenance, from what I've seen.

[PhiSig1071]

Motards require more maintenance, from what I've seen.

Depends on the 'tard. Mine? Not much more than your average sportbike. And most of the additional is checking and torquing everything that vibrates loose! DR-Z400, DR650L, XR650L, XR400 (SICK one in Pitt for sale right now) WR250X, XT's, all less than my KTM, very little maintainence. Now, SMR's, the Husky SM450/610's, and pretty much any 'tard with Ti valves, yep, shit-ton of maintainence. BUT, it's very easy to do, most of it you can do yourself, even valve adjustments.

EDIT: OSP, the perfect 'tard for you would be an XR650, you'd love it.

[Rider]

Depends on the 'tard. Mine? Not much more than your average sportbike. And most of the additional is checking and torquing everything that vibrates loose! DR-Z400, DR650L, XR650L, XR400 (SICK one in Pitt for sale right now) WR250X, XT's, all less than my KTM, very little maintainence. Now, SMR's, the Husky SM450/610's, and pretty much any 'tard with Ti valves, yep, shit-ton of maintainence. BUT, it's very easy to do, most of it you can do yourself, even valve adjustments.

EDIT: OSP, the perfect 'tard for you would be an XR650, you'd love it.

The Aprilia V-Twin tard FTMFW. :drool: 750cc's of pure sex.

[PhiSig1071]

The Aprilia V-Twin tard FTMFW. :drool: 750cc's of pure sex.

That's not a 'tard, neither is the Hypermotard, or the HP2 Megamoto. 400lbs V-Twin with 80hp is not a 'tard, it's a dog. Wont keep up with my GSXR in the straights and wont keep up with my 'tard in the twsities. (Hell, probably wont keep up with my GSXR in the twisties). Don't get me wrong, they're fun bikes, but a 'tard is a light weight bike first and foremost (290lbs for mine, and it's heavy by tard standards). Those are just streetfighters with long-travel suspension. The SVX is a 'tard, but it requires so much fucking maintainence that you damn near have to adjust the valves between sessions.

[Rider]

That's not a 'tard, neither is the Hypermotard, or the HP2 Megamoto. 400lbs V-Twin with 80hp is not a 'tard, it's a dog. Wont keep up with my GSXR in the straights and wont keep up with my 'tard in the twsities. (Hell, probably wont keep up with my GSXR in the twisties). Don't get me wrong, they're fun bikes, but a 'tard is a light weight bike first and foremost (290lbs for mine, and it's heavy by tard standards). Those are just streetfighters with long-travel suspension. The SVX is a 'tard, but it requires so much fucking maintainence that you damn near have to adjust the valves between sessions.

No body makes a tard that appeals to me... the KTM 690 SM is ok, but it look to be down on power if you look at the specs. Lighter and more power is good, but lighter and even less power does not appeal to me. Give me something that weighs 300lbs and has 70-80ft-lb of torques that is less than 800cc's and I'm all over it.

[PhiSig1071]

No body makes a tard that appeals to me... the KTM 690 SM is ok, but it look to be down on power if you look at the specs. Lighter and more power is good, but lighter and even less power does not appeal to me. Give me something that weighs 300lbs and has 70-80ft-lb of torques that is less than 800cc's and I'm all over it.

Nobody makes that :idk:

The Hyper weighs 398lbs dry. Like I said, all those big displacement "motards" are just streetfighters with long travel suspension. Honestly, you'd be better off on a Triumph Street Triple if that's the kind of thing you're looking for. To get a Hyper or Deso down to 300lbs you'd be spending $15k in Ti and CF.

The difference 100lbs makes is amazing, I guarantee in the right conditions a 300lbs bike with 55hp (my KTM) is more fun than a 400lbs bike with 75 (Deso/Hyper).

You have to ride a real 'tard sometime. If our paths ever cross you can take mine for a spin.

[Rider]

Nobody makes that :idk:

The Hyper weighs 398lbs dry. Like I said, all those big displacement "motards" are just streetfighters with long travel suspension. Honestly, you'd be better off on a Triumph Street Triple if that's the kind of thing you're looking for. To get a Hyper or Deso down to 300lbs you'd be spending $15k in Ti and CF.

The difference 100lbs makes is amazing, I guarantee in the right conditions a 300lbs bike with 55hp (my KTM) is more fun than a 400lbs bike with 75 (Deso/Hyper).

You have to ride a real 'tard sometime. If our paths ever cross you can take mine for a spin.

You mean torque? The Deso makes 92 HP and 60ft-lb of torque.

There is a sales guy at the local KTM dealer that has a 690 SM with dual titanium Leo Vince cans on it. I'm sure he's let me take it for a spin.

[PhiSig1071]

You mean torque? The Deso makes 92 HP and 60ft-lb of torque.

There is a sales guy at the local KTM dealer that has a 690 SM with dual titanium Leo Vince cans on it. I'm sure he's let me take it for a spin.

Sorry, I was thinking of the Shiver/Mana. The 1100 Hyper only makes about 80 (it's an air-cooled DS motor). The Deso makes a bit more but it is also heavier, significantly if I remember correctly, like 420lbs.

If that's what you want, awesome! I know they're a blast, and I would love to have one as a commuter, and they're a hell of a lot better for two-up than the KTM, but they're not light enough to qualify as a 'tard in my book.

There's a reason I have two bikes, one is faster, one is lighter. If I couldn't have two I'd probably think a little more about the Hyper or Deso. Although you could get a used sportbike and a used 'tard for less than what a new Hyper goes for.

[Rider]

Sorry, I was thinking of the Shiver/Mana. The 1100 Hyper only makes about 80 (it's an air-cooled DS motor). The Deso makes a bit more but it is also heavier, significantly if I remember correctly, like 420lbs.

If that's what you want, awesome! I know they're a blast, and I would love to have one as a commuter, and they're a hell of a lot better for two-up than the KTM, but they're not light enough to qualify as a 'tard in my book.

There's a reason I have two bikes, one is faster, one is lighter. If I couldn't have two I'd probably think a little more about the Hyper or Deso. Although you could get a used sportbike and a used 'tard for less than what a new Hyper goes for.

The Deso is only 15lbs heavier than the Hypermotard, making just over 400(186 kg). Oh and the Deso is a single only(no passenger pegs).

[PhiSig1071]

The Deso is only 15lbs heavier than the Hypermotard, making just over 400(186 kg). Oh and the Deso is a single only(no passenger pegs).

the Hyper is 398lbs, according to a dealer site I looked at. So the Deso is 413lbs dry. I'm not saying that the "big tards" aren't fun, I'm sure they're great fun, and great bikes. What I'm saying is that they don't really give you a true 'tard experience. I wouldn't mind having one, (it would be the KTM 990SM) in my garage, in addition to a 'tard. You should really go try out that SMC, although they're porkers (320lbs) it'll still give you an idea of what 'tarding is like.

The thing is a lot of people don't want (or can't use) the advantages of a lighter bike. They want the quick responsiveness and fun ride, which you get from the leverage of dirtbike bars, but they don't necessarily use the retarded corner speed and lean you can get with a 'tard. Plus they don't want to sacrifice top-speed or two-up (in the case of bikes other than the Deso).

It's not much of a sacrifice in terms of acceleration:

Hyper: 398lbs/85hp = 4.6lbs per 1hp

Deso: 413lbs/92hp = 4.5lbs per 1hp

My KTM: 290lbs/60hp = 4.8lbs per 1hp

My GSXR: 359lbs/105hp = 3.4lbs per 1hp

A race ready KTM, my buddy's street legal 560SMR: 230lbs/55hp = 4.1lbs per 1hp.

[dReWpY]

the rc 441lbs/122hp=3.6lbs per 1hp
sorry i was wondering where my pig was on the scale

[PhiSig1071]

the rc 441lbs/122hp=3.6lbs per 1hp
sorry i was wondering where my pig was on the scale

:idk:

Try recalculating everything with the Torque numbers. :lol:

[t-homo]

The R1 I just bought got dynoed last year for shits and giggles at 164. Now I just need to check the actual weight once I get it. Yes, I realize that is a retarded amount of horsepower for me.

[ceo012384]

Depends on the 'tard. Mine? Not much more than your average sportbike. And most of the additional is checking and torquing everything that vibrates loose!
Most of the guys I know that run theirs at the track are always talking about rebuilding motors and stuff because they get wrung out on the straights and sit at high rpms for long periods of time, which I guess dirt bikes aren't meant to do.

Really though I don't know much about dirt bikes or tards.
It's not much of a sacrifice in terms of acceleration:

Hyper: 398lbs/85hp = 4.6lbs per 1hp

Deso: 413lbs/92hp = 4.5lbs per 1hp

My KTM: 290lbs/60hp = 4.8lbs per 1hp

My GSXR: 359lbs/105hp = 3.4lbs per 1hp

A race ready KTM, my buddy's street legal 560SMR: 230lbs/55hp = 4.1lbs per 1hp.
Mine: 366 pounds, 132 HP = 2.77 lbs per hp :D

[Rider]

Most of the guys I know that run theirs at the track are always talking about rebuilding motors and stuff because they get wrung out on the straights and sit at high rpms for long periods of time, which I guess dirt bikes aren't meant to do.

Really though I don't know much about dirt bikes or tards.

Mine: 366 pounds, 132 HP = 2.77 lbs per hp :D

On your R6? :bs:

[PiZdETS]

On your R6? :bs:
At the sparkplug.

[PhiSig1071]

Most of the guys I know that run theirs at the track are always talking about rebuilding motors and stuff because they get wrung out on the straights and sit at high rpms for long periods of time, which I guess dirt bikes aren't meant to do.

Really though I don't know much about dirt bikes or tards.

Mine: 366 pounds, 132 HP = 2.77 lbs per hp :D

And most of those guys are probably on converted MX bikes. YZF's, CRF's etc. On those bikes there is a lot more maintainence, but that's the way they're designed and built, also, a lot of those guys who race will rebuild their motor between seasons to keep it at peak power. If you get a purpose-built street tard like an SMC, DRZ-SM, or a WR250X, or a dual-sport big bore converted to a tard (XR650) then the maintainence wont be bad at all.

BTW, were talking rear wheel, not crank, try about 110hp, then it's 3.3lbs per hp.

[Cutty72]

Mine: 366 pounds, 132 HP = 2.77 lbs per hp :D

At the crank... with no fluids or rider.

I'm a little over 5 lbs per hp fully fueled and me on it.

[t-homo]

Over200 probably has hp/pound.

[Rider]

Over200 probably has hp/pound.

Without question.

[t-homo]

Without question.

That shit is fuckin crazy.

[PiZdETS]

Its in his other thread. He said something about 525-550 on a conservative tune and the set up would probably be able to hit 600 if he wanted to.

I would have No Problem extracting 600 from it but Im looking to come in with a conservative tune @ 525-550

Over200 probably has hp/pound.

Let's assume that with all the weight loss parts balanced against the additional turbo equipment he's somewhere around stock weight which for 2003 was 540 pounds (according to the internet).
He mentioned keeping in shape in the other thread, which for a hayabusa rider means at least 200 lbs. (No offense dude, I ride a 1000 and I'm 280 :) )

So- 550 hp/740 lbs = .74 hp per pound. Still retardedly, epically powerful. He destroys F1 cars and motogp bikes (obviously) on paper.
According to this 1/4 mile calculator (http://robrobinette.com/et.htm), which fails to take into account traction, wheelies or gearing, his hypothetical 1/4 mile capability is 6.43.
:drool::panic: I bow to you, you crazy motherfucker.

[Over200]

Let's assume that with all the weight loss parts balanced against the additional turbo equipment he's somewhere around stock weight which for 2003 was 540 pounds (according to the internet).
He mentioned keeping in shape in the other thread, which for a hayabusa rider means at least 200 lbs. (No offense dude, I ride a 1000 and I'm 280 :) )

So- 550 hp/740 lbs = .74 hp per pound. Still retardedly, epically powerful. He destroys F1 cars and motogp bikes (obviously) on paper.
According to this 1/4 mile calculator (http://robrobinette.com/et.htm), which fails to take into account traction, wheelies or gearing, his hypothetical 1/4 mile capability is 6.43.
:drool::panic: I bow to you, you crazy motherfucker.

LOL!!...CMF'er....That's what I've always heard :rockout:...and FYI...Bike weighs 468...all fluids except fuel...& I weigh 185...I'll have to go weigh in suited up!:rockwoot:

[PiZdETS]

LOL!!...CMF'er....That's what I've always heard :rockout:...and FYI...Bike weighs 468...all fluids except fuel...& I weigh 185...I'll have to go weigh in suited up!:rockwoot:
Aight, so we'll say you put in 3 gallons of gas weighing around 18 pounds total which brings the total to 671 when you ride naked (I'm betting you're apeshit crazy enough to try this) and you've achieved .82 when running 550 hp.

Turn up the boost to 600 hp, burn the fuel down to 1 gallon (6.15 pounds) and you've got 600 hp over 659 pounds which is .91 hp/pound!!

Start vomiting after each meal, tearing everything unnecessary off the bike and you can get down to 600 pounds which would yield you the mythical 1 hp per pound.

God I'm a nerd. :(

[Rider]

Aight, so we'll say you put in 3 gallons of gas weighing around 18 pounds total which brings the total to 671 when you ride naked (I'm betting you're apeshit crazy enough to try this) and you've achieved .82 when running 550 hp.

Turn up the boost to 600 hp, burn the fuel down to 1 gallon (6.15 pounds) and you've got 600 hp over 659 pounds which is .91 hp/pound!!

Start vomiting after each meal, tearing everything unnecessary off the bike and you can get down to 600 pounds which would yield you the mythical 1 hp per pound.

God I'm a nerd. :(

Nothing mythical about that. Top fuel and funny cars top that easily. Pro street bikes.... All that shit.

[PiZdETS]

Nothing mythical about that. Top fuel and funny cars top that easily. Pro street bikes.... All that shit.
Of course but a very select few of top level racers get to use those, regular joes such as us almost never get to experience such power.
On the street it's damn near unheard of.

[Rider]

Of course, but a very select few of regular joes such as us get to experience it, on the street it's almost unheard of.

Agreed...

[ceo012384]

On your R6? :bs:
Why is that BS? It's not.

Stock claimed horsepower at the crank is 133 actually, I'm sorry. 133hp with ram-air and 127 without ram-air.

If you mean at the wheel, sportrider measured 112.1hp at the rear wheel of their test r6 when they tested it.

But most people discuss the crank hp when discussing power, so I stand by what I said.

I looked around a bit more and the weight was more like 357lb, not 366.

So, 357lb/133hp = 2.68 pounds per hp.

If you want to go with wheel horsepower, it's 357lb/112 = 3.1875 pounds per hp.
And most of those guys are probably on converted MX bikes. YZF's, CRF's etc. On those bikes there is a lot more maintainence, but that's the way they're designed and built, also, a lot of those guys who race will rebuild their motor between seasons to keep it at peak power. If you get a purpose-built street tard like an SMC, DRZ-SM, or a WR250X, or a dual-sport big bore converted to a tard (XR650) then the maintainence wont be bad at all.
I see. That makes sense.

I still really want to ride one. I've heard if you don't have dirt experience they are a little tricky to learn the new technique. Is that true?

[PhiSig1071]

But most people discuss the crank hp when discussing power, so I stand by what I said.

I looked around a bit more and the weight was more like 357lb, not 366.

So, 357lb/133hp = 2.68 pounds per hp.

If you want to go with wheel horsepower, it's 357lb/112 = 3.1875 pounds per hp.

I see. That makes sense.

I still really want to ride one. I've heard if you don't have dirt experience they are a little tricky to learn the new technique. Is that true?

FYI, all the weight/hp numbers I posted were dry weight and rear wheel hp.

Yes and no. If you want to ride it 'tard style, body up, bike down, leg out then yes it's hard to learn the new technique. Although not any more difficult than learning any other new technique.

You can road-race style a 'tard, and everywhere but a cart-track it's faster to do it that way. But it's a very unique, elbows up, technique, and you have to support your weight pretty much entirely on your inner thigh. It's weird, but you get used to it quickly. Again, it's no more difficult to learn then any other style of riding.

If you get down here and we ride together then you can take the KTM for a spin.

[Over200]

Aight, so we'll say you put in 3 gallons of gas weighing around 18 pounds total which brings the total to 671 when you ride naked (I'm betting you're apeshit crazy enough to try this) and you've achieved .82 when running 550 hp.

Turn up the boost to 600 hp, burn the fuel down to 1 gallon (6.15 pounds) and you've got 600 hp over 659 pounds which is .91 hp/pound!!

Start vomiting after each meal, tearing everything unnecessary off the bike and you can get down to 600 pounds which would yield you the mythical 1 hp per pound.

God I'm a nerd. :(

Im gonna try it!!:dthumb:...I think it looks better naked anyways!!

[ceo012384]

FYI, all the weight/hp numbers I posted were dry weight and rear wheel hp.

Yes and no. If you want to ride it 'tard style, body up, bike down, leg out then yes it's hard to learn the new technique. Although not any more difficult than learning any other new technique.

You can road-race style a 'tard, and everywhere but a cart-track it's faster to do it that way. But it's a very unique, elbows up, technique, and you have to support your weight pretty much entirely on your inner thigh. It's weird, but you get used to it quickly. Again, it's no more difficult to learn then any other style of riding.

If you get down here and we ride together then you can take the KTM for a spin.
Yeah, the last one that I just posted is dry weight and rear wheel horsepower, giving the 3.1875 pounds per horsepower.

Interesting. Since it's faster to ride it road-race style that's what I'd learn... and I'd be better at that anyways since I've never ridden dirt except once or twice. Thanks for the offer... I hope to take you up on it sometime :cheers: