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Amorok
12-27-2009, 12:28 PM
I have noticed over the past few years a huge bias against men in the media and popular culture. You can see this everywhere. Think of your favorite sitcom, the man is either an incompetent boob or a hustling, swindling, conniving incompetent boob. The only men that ever evince any understanding or compassion are gay, and the only ones who show any strength are misunderstood anti heroes. There are regular guys out there people, guys who know how to fix things and aren't douchebags, guys who love their wives but don't feel like they have to kiss their wives' ass or constantly acknowledge that their wife is better at everything than they are. Sometimes at my house my wife just isn't any good at stuff and I have to go to a lot of trouble to help out, but you never see this in media. On Yahoo today there are a list of ten things husbands should never do. Guaranteed that there won't be a list like for wives, so I'll write one. Here ya go ladies:

1. Gripe about how hard it is taking care of the kids all day. - Who wanted to have these kids? You got what you wanted, if you don't like it, well, now you know why we're so reluctant. Next time maybe we can all pay a little closer attention to birth control, shall we? Not saying that kids are bad, but I don't bitch about my new bike, no matter how frustrating something is. It's in bad taste.

2. Gripe about how rough you have it at home all day. - We respect our wives, especially those of them that stay at home. We appreciate having a clean house and not having to pay daycare on top of the other bills. That being said, you don't have it as hard as me. You don't have to wake up at 0dark30 in the morning, you don't have to look or perform a certain way, and nobody calls you out on anything. In fact, the only standards you have to meet are your own, and you've been at home all day. Nobody stole your lunch from the fridge, you didn't get saddled with someone else work, and there isn't a wife and kids depending on you financially for what you do all day.

3. Tell me you don't know what to get me for a gift. - What do I talk about all the time? What do I do on the weekends? Every guy in America has a hobby, and if you could take ten minutes to get over yourself and get on the internet for a little research you'd be able to figure out what to buy. For instance, if your husband rides a motorcycle and you don't know what a bike bell is, you're a bad wife. Not only that, you have a gift that keeps on giving! If you can think of nothing else, fall back on turning it up in the bedroom and you'll be fine. You know, the good lovin where we don't have to beg for it, the lights are on and you do some of that stuff you did when we were dating that made us want to marry you in the first place.

4. Gripe about gifts we give you. - Woman how dare you. I spent time looking through your drawers to figure out your sizes (doing the math I said I'd never need again in high school to average between fat and skinny clothes) and also looked through your jewelry box to make sure you don't have anything like what I might buy for you. After all that effort you need to say thank you, then return whatever it was later. How are we supposed to know about perfume? After paying for the house, cars, homeowners car and health insurance you're lucky we can afford and feel like giving you anything else.

5. Gripe about our driving. - You just don't get to. I'm paying for the car, and I'm still expected to get the oil changed, keep track of the tire wear, and pay the insurance. On long road trips I'm the one who comes up with the route, drives all but the last 30 miles when you give me that little break, loads all your bags of lead into the car, and I'm expected to be patient during you're million bathroom breaks. Anytime driving comes up, the only thing you're allowed to say is how much like Sterling Moss I remind you behind the wheel.

6. Be mad if I'm not impressed by the food you made. - Look, I don't care if it has a fancy French name and you saw it on TV, and I don't care if it took you hours to make. If I come home from work to a crappy dinner then when you fish for compliments, expect to catch criticism. You know what that food tastes like, and if it's no good, don't serve it to me. You know what's going to happen. And don't act like cooking me food makes you such a martyr. What do you think I got married for, to cook for myself? I ate pizza and Taco Bell before you and I'm happy to bust out my paper plates again any time you feel like you need to be replaced. Crappy food is crappy food, don't expect praise.

7. Make me shop forever. - I don't drag you to Cabella's or Best Buy, I know you hate those stores. I also don't take more than 20 minutes in any store, I know what I need when I walk in. As for trying stuff on, I know what size I wear. I've been buying the same jeans since I started buying clothes, and unless I've experienced a massive weight fluctuation I need the same size as what I'm wearing. Sp no, none of this need take longer than a half an hour.

8. Run me down in public. - You know how even if you've become a blimp I'm not allowed to imply that you've put on any weight, even if no one's around? Now imagine that feeling in public. You have no idea how enreging it is when your wife totally makes you look like an ass in front of people, and how much of a bitch you look like. I know the fish I caught wasn't that big, and so do my friends, but we're all having a good time. And as soon as my fish tale is over my friends will start telling theirs, because guys do that. However when you decide to grab some attention and call me out it makes you look like a bitchy attention whore who doesn't respect her man, and me look like a weakling who isn't respected at home. Thanks, bitch, hope it was worth the snarky little laugh you got. We're supposed to be a team, and just like I'm not going to let everyone know about that blemish you used so much makeup to cover up, I don't expect you to derail me in a conversation.

9. Don't fish for compliments about stuff. - If you ask me a question you'll get an answer, usually an honest one. If you don't like the answer DON'T ASK THE QUESTION. I am not a mind reader, so if you're not happy about something and you try to get me to make you feel better, it might backfire on you. I didn't tell you how to cut your hair, and I didn't tell you to buy those clothes, so if you don't like the way you look it's your problem. If you don't feel good about the way you look do something about it. Go to the gym, stop putting your hair in a ponytail, and wear something besides tank tops and sweats and you might feel better about the way you look. And if you really care about my opinion, you'll listen to what I have to say, instead of just getting mad when it's not what you want to hear.

10. Gripe at me for not doing house work. - Listen, guys do not get married for the joy of mopping or doing dishes. Sure it's cliched to call it woman's work but you go to any single guy's house and all he has is paper plates. Listen, we do house work, but the problem is that we don't do it on the same schedule as you. If I have dishes left and there's no smell, it's not on the urgent list. It's for sure not on the list that work, mowing the yard, and making sure you have a house to live in. If you really want me to do all the stuff you do, plus all the stuff I do, what do I need you for?


So there's my vent, here's the original article if you want to see what pissed me off: http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/sex/10-things-husbands-should-never-do-552285/

Tmall
12-27-2009, 01:10 PM
Best post I have ever read. You should run for king of north America. I would vote for you.

HurricaneHeather
12-27-2009, 01:22 PM
Not reading your list because I'm not bored enough, but I'm just curious....will you be sending this to your wretched witch of a wife that you love and adore?

CrazyKell
12-27-2009, 01:22 PM
NO way in hell did you write that.

Captain Morgan
12-27-2009, 01:25 PM
Well, there are always the stereotypes of women, you know, ones like their inability to drive or park a car http://video.yahoo.com/network/100000089?v=4533761&l=100022574

Amber Lamps
12-27-2009, 01:35 PM
Wow, that was really long! Some of that is true but only if you have a stay at home spouse. I thought those were like dinosaurs for the most part these days... As soon as the kids are school age the women go back to work...at least in my experience.

I especially agree on the "don't ask if you don't want an honest answer part", although a lot of the problem here is consistency. I explain to SOs that I will always be honest in these matters and act accordingly. If you play the game with them for "X" number of years, you can't suddenly decide that you want to be "honest" now about the way they look. I've made my current GF change clothes before going out with me on a couple of occasions. Women have absolutely no problem criticizing our style choices, there isn't any reason for us to keep our mouths shut. Maybe I don't want to be seen in public with some bum wearing pjs and no make up...

BTW Thanks for taking the heat off me for a while!!!! Hahahahahaha!

Well, there are always the stereotypes of women, you know, ones like their inability to drive or park a car http://video.yahoo.com/network/100000089?v=4533761&l=100022574

I saw that! Was she Chinese as well? Hahahahaha! I've actually parked a car for strange women a couple of times!!!!

karl_1052
12-27-2009, 02:53 PM
WTH is a bike bell?


5. Brag about your driving. This is supposed to let us know that ours isn’t so great. If my husband tells me one more time that he’s been “accident-free since 1978,” I’m going to reach over, grab the wheel and make the car swerve into something, just to shut him up.

I would knock anyone out who tried that shit. Enjoy waking up in a snowbank.

Fleck750
12-27-2009, 03:05 PM
WTH is a bike bell?






Suppose to keep the gremlins away. I have 2, hasn't helped any. LOL

And not the AMC Gremlins.
http://www.bikerempire.com/catalog/images/fhfbell_2.jpg

Rangerscott
12-27-2009, 03:10 PM
We put windows in a house and I'm guessing the wife was a stay at home mom. Well let me tell ya. She has hard days. I mean all the shit on the floor, cloths, 900lbs of dog hair in the backyard, watching TV. Man. I can see how she'd be "exhausted" after NOT doing anything. The guy I work with told me I needed to find a wife just like her. LOL

I know. I'm an asshole.

azoomm
12-27-2009, 04:09 PM
I'll say it again. Y'all are really going out with or married to the wrong people if this is your life.

Captain Morgan
12-27-2009, 04:38 PM
We put windows in a house and I'm guessing the wife was a stay at home mom. Well let me tell ya. She has hard days. I mean all the shit on the floor, cloths, 900lbs of dog hair in the backyard, watching TV. Man. I can see how she'd be "exhausted" after NOT doing anything. The guy I work with told me I needed to find a wife just like her. LOL

I know. I'm an asshole.

I went on a field call where the husband made 120k/year, but did so out of state as an insulator. Would go wherever the money was. The wife was home, just earning SS/pension, whatever (she was in her mid to late 50's). The house was a disaster and she looked like she'd just gotten out of bed at 10:30 am. They didn't have any kids. Why he was still married to her is beyond me, but I sure as hell know why he chose to be on the road all the time.

Amber Lamps
12-27-2009, 04:56 PM
We put windows in a house and I'm guessing the wife was a stay at home mom. Well let me tell ya. She has hard days. I mean all the shit on the floor, cloths, 900lbs of dog hair in the backyard, watching TV. Man. I can see how she'd be "exhausted" after NOT doing anything. The guy I work with told me I needed to find a wife just like her. LOL

I know. I'm an asshole.

Nah bro, hardly anyone can make the "being a house wife is hard work" case anymore. Especially if the kids are in school. Oh no did you have to load the dishwasher, run the self-propelled vacuum cleaner and load up the automatic washer and dryer a couple times? Gee and you poor thing slaving over a hot microwave for 15 minutes to prepare dinner....Why you're no better than a slave!!!

Amber Lamps
12-27-2009, 04:58 PM
I'll say it again. Y'all are really going out with or married to the wrong people if this is your life.

Hmmm...maybe only certain types of women ride motorcycles and that's why none of you girls fit this mold.

Fleck750
12-27-2009, 05:00 PM
Hmmm...maybe only certain types of women ride motorcycles and that's why none of you girls fit this mold.

I helped shovel snow for 3 hours today. Most women don't do that shit, either. :D

Amber Lamps
12-27-2009, 05:00 PM
I went on a field call where the husband made 120k/year, but did so out of state as an insulator. Would go wherever the money was. The wife was home, just earning SS/pension, whatever (she was in her mid to late 50's). The house was a disaster and she looked like she'd just gotten out of bed at 10:30 am. They didn't have any kids. Why he was still married to her is beyond me, but I sure as hell know why he chose to be on the road all the time.

It's probably cheaper than hiring a house sitter... besides, maybe they're really good friends. Maybe he's impotent.

Amorok
12-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Ulu works so only a couple of the items on my list apply to her. One of my buddy's wives emailed me the article saying that I should help her husband out and let him read it. There's a lot more wrong with that bitch I can't fit into a list.

And yeah kell, I wrote it, grammatical/spelling errors and all. I'm on vacation, I have a lot of free time. So much so that apparently my friends' wives feel comfortable emailing me to get me to break the guy code. No ladies, I won't take your side if. I knew your husband before he married you.

CrazyKell
12-27-2009, 08:05 PM
And yeah kell, I wrote it, grammatical/spelling errors and all. I'm on vacation, I have a lot of free time.

I never made any mention of grammatical or spelling errors. :idk: I've been reading your posts for a while and it doesn't seem like your normal style of writing. :shrug:

I'm with Azoomm.

Ninjakel
12-27-2009, 08:09 PM
wow........its sad thats how you view life and marriage.

racedoll
12-27-2009, 08:33 PM
I'll say it again. Y'all are really going out with or married to the wrong people if this is your life.

I agree. I know some of these women... and it is really sad that men have to put up with that. I don't claim to be the perfect wife, but I don't feel I fall into any of these 10.

Hmmm...maybe only certain types of women ride motorcycles and that's why none of you girls fit this mold.

You might be on to something here...

I helped shovel snow for 3 hours today. Most women don't do that shit, either. :D

I'm the one to shovel our drive way when it needs it and it isn't a short drive way either. Erik has come out a few times to help, but most times it is me. Why? Because I like to "play" in the snow and at the time it was the only way I could get in or out of the drive in my car (Ford Probe).

Fleck750
12-27-2009, 08:43 PM
I'm the one to shovel our drive way when it needs it and it isn't a short drive way either. Erik has come out a few times to help, but most times it is me. Why? Because I like to "play" in the snow and at the time it was the only way I could get in or out of the drive in my car (Ford Probe).

Hence Tiggers mention that we girls on this board aren't normal. :p

I'm just so used to doing everything myself that I go out and do that stuff. My normal snow removal is digging 2 feet in front of the back tires to get a good running start. :bonk:

EpyonXero
12-27-2009, 08:46 PM
Heh, good post.

'73 H1 Triple
12-27-2009, 10:25 PM
I helped shovel snow for 3 hours today. Most women don't do that shit, either. :D

My wife is a big help around the house. When something needs to be done outside, she's right there next to me, also busting her ass.


The original article posted on Yahoo really pissed me off with the tone it was written. I even replied to the article

If my wife talked to me in the tone this article is written ( or if I talked to her that way )we'd be having a serious discussion.

#2 I work in a machine shop. I'd be happy to work where the biggest danger was a sharp knife.

#5 I used to race, she didn't. Enough said.

#9 Don't ask a question if you don't want a honest answer. ( pretty simple concept, isn't it? )

Have a nice day
Jeff

derf
12-27-2009, 11:59 PM
I require 3 things of my wife.

1. Be naked
2. Be pregnant
3. Be in the kitchen

And all 3 need to be done at the same time

karl_1052
12-28-2009, 12:05 AM
I require 3 things of my wife.

1. Be naked
2. Be pregnant
3. Be in the kitchen

And all 3 need to be done at the same time

I took care of number 2 for you.

You can thank me later.
redflip

derf
12-28-2009, 12:23 AM
I took care of number 2 for you.

You can thank me later.
redflip

Appreciate it. My junk doesn't quite work right anymore since I got snipped so someone gotta do the nasty for her. I keep trying but no matter what I do she just wont get pregnant. So for now I figure i will keep on practicing and keep trying. My new motto, 'Never stop! never Quit!'

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 12:36 AM
^^^LOL @ Karl
I have come to realize that people purposely create their own drama to make their lives more "interesting".

derf
12-28-2009, 12:52 AM
^^^LOL @ Karl
I have come to realize that people purposely create their own drama to make their lives more "interesting".

Would you like a try at getting my wife pregnant too? Ya know I bet i can start charging money for this.

Amber Lamps
12-28-2009, 07:40 AM
Would you like a try at getting my wife pregnant too? Ya know I bet i can start charging money for this.

I have heard rumors that guys actually pay for sex but I find it hard to believe...

AquaPython
12-28-2009, 09:38 AM
nice write up - if it will fit, you should post that in the comments section , entitled "Fuck You, Diane Oatis" (the author).

marko138
12-28-2009, 09:54 AM
Best post I have ever read. You should run for king of north America. I would vote for you.

This.

unknownroad
12-28-2009, 11:25 AM
As soon as I read this in the original

You’ve basically been sitting on your butt. That same smoke is coming out of our ears too—but we’ve cleaned the house, shuttled the kids around, run errands all over town and lugged grocery bags besides.

I knew- spoiled cunt who has nothing better to do than sit around all day thinking of things to bitch about.

I work full-time, and do essentially all of the housework, errand-running, yardwork, home improvements, vehicle maintenance, and so on and so on. I would be one ecstatic motherfucker if I could quit my job and "only" do everything else.

Oh, and
9. Say anything remotely critical about our new haircut. Sometimes getting a new cut goes well; sometimes it doesn’t. Usually we know the difference. Don’t rub it in.

Don't cut your damned hair. Long hair is pretty (and don't whine to me about how much work it is, because mine is probably longer).

Particle Man
12-28-2009, 11:41 AM
I just hate getting the same freakin' question over and over and over and over... I answered it the first time. Stop freakin' asking.

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 12:52 PM
The original article is just another example why people specialize in female psychology.
Ra ra bullshit for "the girls" to bound over.

It doesn't have to be true, it doesn't have be logical...it doesn't even have to be legible.
It was written by a woman for other women for the sole purpose of giving the author the oppurtunity to say "Do ya hear me girls!!!??"

marko138
12-28-2009, 01:23 PM
The original article is just another example why people specialize in female psychology.
Ra ra bullshit for "the girls" to bound over.

It doesn't have to be true, it doesn't have be logical...it doesn't even have to be legible.
It was written by a woman for other women for the sole purpose of giving the author the oppurtunity to say "Do ya hear me girls!!!??"
Absolutely.

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 02:04 PM
Pulled from the webz

Blended pearoast from CP
I have found in my many years on this planet that women are great. No, really, I think women are wonderful with all their inny and outy bits but they have some habits which drive me to incoherent throat-ripping fury.
Firstly - Referrals to others once you've answered their question. WTF!? I once had my ex-wife ask her father if I was "doing the right thing" when I serviced the brakes on her car.
Her father is a carpenter. He has never driven. He has never owned a car. He gets service personnel to replace knobs (the push-on types) on cookers and washing machines so he's the OBVIOUS choice to ask about my knowledge and skills.
On the other hand I'm only a qualified engineer with eleven years international experience in building, testing and rectifying gas turbine prime movers for warships and power stations. I have built five kit cars and been a backup mechanic for a semi-pro racing team. I was a registered firearms dealer for some years, working on some really expensive and complicated weaponry (servicing telescopic sights in a home-built clean room glovebox with a dry nitrogen atmosphere anyone?). But, better to ask daddy than me, because daddy knows best.
Secondly, I have found that ALL the women I have spent time with CANNOT WAIT FOR INFORMATION.
If a situation arises that necessitates waiting for information they won't shut up about it. For instance, when I was married, my ex-wife's car went wrong. I booked it into a garage (warranty claim) for the next day.
As soon as I got home she started.
"What do you think is wrong"?
"I have no idea, that's why the garage is doing the work"
"What will they do to the car"?
"I don't know, that's why the garage is doing the work, utilising their specific knowledge of the marque".
"How long will they take"?
"I don't know, that's why you've got a courtesy car all day".
"What do you think is wrong"?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE WOMAN, I'VE ANSWERED EVERY INANE FUCKING QUESTION YOU'VE ASKED WITH "I DON'T KNOW" GET THE HINT!!!!!!
And while I'm at it, how do women think men get information? I mean, I've been sitting in front of you all the time so why ask the same question? I had no idea 5 minutes ago, I've not seen another human being or used any communication device in those 5 minutes so where do you think I've got the information from, fucking telepathy?

Man-she-fancies says "you look gorgeous".
Result : woman enjoys compliment.

Man-she-doesn't-fancy says "you look gorgeous".
Result : woman feels violated by sexist pig.

Man-she-fancies pursues her.
Result : woman goes on date, cops off etc.

Man-she-doesn't-fancy pursues her.
Result : man arrested for stalking.

all of the women I know have a much more sensitive sense of smell than the men I know. Especially pregnant women, they could probably track fugitives.

Which must be why my missus came up with the 6 Categories of Fart:

Meat
Sweet
Egg
Veg
Nut
Gas

She dislikes the sweet ones most of all.

CasterTroy
12-28-2009, 02:46 PM
holy crap

If people would spend more time trying to make their spouse as happy as they could POSSIBLY be...they'd have less time to be consumed with what THEY are missing. Amazingly when BOTH spouses are doing this, there is NO TIME to sit and bitch, and you both get everything you ever wanted.

Homeslice
12-28-2009, 02:51 PM
The original article is just another example why people specialize in female psychology.
Ra ra bullshit for "the girls" to bound over.

It doesn't have to be true, it doesn't have be logical...it doesn't even have to be legible.
It was written by a woman for other women for the sole purpose of giving the author the oppurtunity to say "Do ya hear me girls!!!??"

The same type who had the "grrl power" or "grrlz rock" bumper stickers 10 yrs ago :ws:

Tmall
12-28-2009, 03:47 PM
The funny thing is troy, you can try to make somebody happy. But, they are the deciding factor in that happiness.

You can give a woman the world, but if she wants the moon, you're fucked.

marko138
12-28-2009, 03:49 PM
The funny thing is troy, you can try to make somebody happy. But, they are the deciding factor in that happiness.

You can give a woman the world, but if she wants the moon, you're fucked.
Well put.

Fleck750
12-28-2009, 05:26 PM
The same type who had the "grrl power" or "grrlz rock" bumper stickers 10 yrs ago :ws:
Anything in pink sucks, too.

I'm at a total loss at why grown women would purchase pink bikes, motorcycle gear or freaking pink helmets. Didn't they have enough of that color crammed down their throats when they were little? :spank:

Captain Morgan
12-28-2009, 06:00 PM
I have heard rumors that guys actually pay for sex but I find it hard to believe...

All men pay for sex, in one form or another.

The funny thing is troy, you can try to make somebody happy. But, they are the deciding factor in that happiness.

You can give a woman the world, but if she wants the moon, you're fucked.

Usually, you give her the world and she wants nothing to do with you because you're willing to give her the world. She'd rather have the guy who treats her like shit because she thinks she can "fix" him. Either that, or she's a spoiled bitch who now wants the moon and everything beyond just because you gave her the world.

Anything in pink sucks, too.

I'm at a total loss at why grown women would purchase pink bikes, motorcycle gear or freaking pink helmets. Didn't they have enough of that color crammed down their throats when they were little? :spank:

I painted my little girls room pink, but only because that's what color she asked me to paint it. I've told her that when she's tired of the color, I'll paint it whatever color she wants. Luckily, I can still give her the world and she thinks the world of me because of it.

Fleck750
12-28-2009, 06:21 PM
I painted my little girls room pink, but only because that's what color she asked me to paint it. I've told her that when she's tired of the color, I'll paint it whatever color she wants. Luckily, I can still give her the world and she thinks the world of me because of it.

Little girls are one thing. 40 year olds with pink Harleys and tassels is another. :D

EpyonXero
12-28-2009, 07:35 PM
Pulled from the webz

The root of most of that is that most times, when women think something, they MUST say it out loud to somebody whether they know the answer or not. The good ones can say it once and let it go, the annoying one say it out loud every single time they think it.

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 07:37 PM
Would you like a try at getting my wife pregnant too? Ya know I bet i can start charging money for this.

Nah....I'm not into fat chicks. :lol

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 08:54 PM
holy crap

If people would spend more time trying to make their spouse as happy as they could POSSIBLY be...they'd have less time to be consumed with what THEY are missing. Amazingly when BOTH spouses are doing this, there is NO TIME to sit and bitch, and you both get everything you ever wanted.

This coming from a man of divorce. :boobs:

G-Rex
12-28-2009, 09:03 PM
This coming from a man of divorce. :boobs:

Do you just Cliffs Notes what you read? Your crack at Troy is pretty far off base if you had paid attention to what he said back in the day.

He just now said *BOTH* spouses. As I recall, that wasn't the case. You can't just *make* someone see your way. There have to be two people interested in making things work. If both parties aren't, then that's a bad situation.

Your comment is so out of place it's not even funny. Fail.

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 09:08 PM
Back in what day?

It's not a comment meant to be funny. It's like me buying a bunch of shit, declaring bankruptcy, then giving out financial advice on the internet.

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 09:16 PM
Back in what day?

It's not a comment meant to be funny. It's like me buying a bunch of shit, declaring bankruptcy, then giving out financial advice on the internet.

Learning from mistakes usually nets good advice.
Builds on thay whole wisdom thing.

Troys divorce, if I recall was that his wife became a self absorbed cunt.
That and the whole "dutch oven" business.

Fleck750
12-28-2009, 09:19 PM
Dutch oven?

http://http://campinggearstop.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dutch-oven-oven-open-fire.jpg

Captain Morgan
12-28-2009, 09:23 PM
Learning from mistakes usually nets good advice.
Builds on thay whole wisdom thing.

Imagine where we would be as a society if we were capable of truly learning from mistakes of others.

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 09:25 PM
Dutch oven?

http://http://campinggearstop.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dutch-oven-oven-open-fire.jpg

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dutch%20oven

Amber Lamps
12-28-2009, 09:28 PM
Anything in pink sucks, too.

I'm at a total loss at why grown women would purchase pink bikes, motorcycle gear or freaking pink helmets. Didn't they have enough of that color crammed down their throats when they were little? :spank:

Hater!!!

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/Tiffany/DSC00548.jpg

Amber Lamps
12-28-2009, 09:34 PM
Imagine where we would be as a society if we were capable of truly learning from mistakes of others.

Yea all the men would be single...ba zing!

Nah....I'm not into fat chicks. :lol

Or Jew lovers....

Amber Lamps
12-28-2009, 10:03 PM
Learning from mistakes usually nets good advice.
Builds on thay whole wisdom thing.

Troys divorce, if I recall was that his wife became a self absorbed cunt.
That and the whole "dutch oven" business.

Question, do you have her side of the story? No offense but even in my situation there was another side to the story.

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 10:13 PM
Question, do you have her side of the story? No offense but even in my situation there was another side to the story.

I don't need no stinking full story when I'm making a point.
Whadda er ya some kinda of transgendered hippy?


(To answer your question....um no...and I choose not to as it would take away from my post)


edit: The "dutch oven" incident made the newspapers.

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 10:15 PM
Learning from mistakes usually nets good advice.
Builds on thay whole wisdom thing.

Troys divorce, if I recall was that his wife became a self absorbed cunt.
That and the whole "dutch oven" business.

Yeah good point.

Not blaming him or her cause it is non of my buisness, but the whole "try to make your spouse as happy as possible" thing I'm not buying...It's a recipe to get taken advantage of or used.

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 10:17 PM
...Or Jew lovers....


Now ur just being mean...:lol

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Hater!!!

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/Tiffany/DSC00548.jpg

2 nites flap material. Thanks Tig!

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Yeah good point.

Not blaming him or her cause it is non of my buisness, but the whole "try to make your spouse as happy as possible" thing I'm not buying...It's a recipe to get taken advantage of or used.

I agree to some extent.

I think as long as you do not take it to extremes and just look out for your SO's over all happiness (as long as you keep an eye on allowing yourself some joy in the process) then everything will be for the best.

pauldun170
12-28-2009, 10:22 PM
2 nites flap material. Thanks Tig!

Dude...
Its FAP.
Not Flap.

Fap is what boys do.
Flap is what girls do when they get real aggressive and get both hands involved.

Homeslice
12-28-2009, 10:48 PM
Anything in pink sucks, too.

I'm at a total loss at why grown women would purchase pink bikes, motorcycle gear or freaking pink helmets. Didn't they have enough of that color crammed down their throats when they were little? :spank:
That's mostly the women who deem it necessary to "let it be known" that a girl can ride too.

I could see maybe in bumfuck Mississippi it might be considered unusual for women to ride, but in the rest of the country it's old news.

101lifts2
12-28-2009, 11:48 PM
Dude...
Its FAP.
Not Flap.

Fap is what boys do.
Flap is what girls do when they get real aggressive and get both hands involved.

Sorry not hip with all the lingo yet..:boobs:

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 12:57 AM
That's mostly the women who deem it necessary to "let it be known" that a girl can ride too.

I could see maybe in bumfuck Mississippi it might be considered unusual for women to ride, but in the rest of the country it's old news.

Or could it be that like my favorite color is white, hence the white bike, rims, gear, etc, she might actually like pink. As in this chick has tons of pink shit!!! She likes pink. Period. She's not trying to prove anything. She's trying to modify her bike from something she likes into something she loves. At least she's not covering it in spikes to prove how non girlie she is...hmmmmm....What's up with that? You probably have all black gear and wear combat/work boots to ride.

derf
12-29-2009, 02:00 AM
She likes pink.


I like her pink too :lol

Fleck750
12-29-2009, 05:29 AM
Or could it be that like my favorite color is white, hence the white bike, rims, gear, etc, she might actually like pink. As in this chick has tons of pink shit!!! She likes pink. Period. She's not trying to prove anything. She's trying to modify her bike from something she likes into something she loves. At least she's not covering it in spikes to prove how non girlie she is...hmmmmm....What's up with that? You probably have all black gear and wear combat/work boots to ride.

You missed the point. I said WOMEN IN THEIR 40's!!!!!

I didn't say girls. Your SO is a girl. Don't tell me she's a freaking woman, either. :poke: :bonk:

My gear is yellow, red, green and sometimes blue. Black makes you invisible and cagers run over you.

The spikes and maille show my love of the Middle ages, and craftsmanship.

And why do they these threads always revolve around you or the child you date? I said the word pink and you go off the deep end. Stop being so defensive.

karl_1052
12-29-2009, 08:04 AM
Or could it be that like my favorite color is white, hence the white bike, rims, gear, woman, etc

Fixed for you.:lol:

CasterTroy
12-29-2009, 08:35 AM
I'm not buying...It's a recipe to get taken advantage of or used.

Life is pretty dull when you play it safe. If you don't take a chance you never reap the reward.

I see so MANY of you post on here about your huge TV's or new gadgets and how everyone should jump on board and ride the "new fad" train.

We all drool over bikes and goodies and dream about what we'd do if we HAD money....yet I see JUST as many posts about empty hearts and how your personal lives suck. About how you never can get laid (married), or your spouse or girlfriend isn't fulfilling you....granted...those that post that kind of stuff really aren’t self-aware enough to know that’s what they are posting, but basically it boils down to they aren't being fulfilled.

Some of you (men) are so very bitter and or afraid of putting your heart out there that you can’t FIND a significant other, so you focus on yourself 100% (BTW…that’s not an effective way of FINDING anyone either….just so you know) and you sit among your toys and “things” and you’re miserable.

Trust me when I say that that misery comes thru in posts.

Yes my first marriage failed. And yes I DID learn a great deal from it. While I applied SOME of the principle of “pleasing your spouse” to my first marriage, I didn’t make it my top priority. In the end, she wanted something other than what I could offer her….something a LOT of people revert to when they’re not willing to take a chance and put their heart out there and risk having someone damage it……THINGS…….she wanted a house in a gated community, as well as a lake home in the neighborhood all the VP’s of her company lived in. And since I was just a mere engineer with no aspirations of being a vice president of ANYTHING…..she chose a VP at her company who HAD all that. She left to pursue him and after 5 years of stringing her along, dumping her, running back to her, dumping her……..etc….his wife found out about their affair and he’s now out with the shirt on his back sleeping on my ex’s couch :idk:

That’s basically what happened. I’m not bitter, nor do I resent her. She just wasn’t willing to take the chance on letting anyone in, for fear of getting hurt. Her whole life was full of hurt and full of abandonment so I can’t say I blame her. However I WAS willing to take that chance, and I DID get hurt. I DID fail. But I put on my big girl panties, I quit crying and I tried again.

If you fail at something once are you forever a failure? If your favorite team loses a game are they labeled losers forever? Even if you try and fail, it doesn't mean that you didn't learn something, it means you had the BALLS to try in the first place. And if that try failed….you’ve got even bigger balls to TRY again. Anyone who writes off someone because they had a failure, and feels they have nothing to ever offer up, is just a fucking moron, especially if they’ve not even TRIED themselves to begin with.

Now, I’m a few years older, and knew what I was looking for. And at the TOP of the list was finding someone that knew who they were, and knew what they wanted….and were willing to take a huge risk to get it.

I found that.

And granted….YES, I may very well get hurt one day..I may get taken advantage of….but DAMN whatta ride I’m on right now! I could die today and I’d have lived a totally fulfilled complete life. And I don’t need a DAMN thing but my wife and kids.

Can you can sit there and say that?.

racedoll
12-29-2009, 09:21 AM
Good post Troy! :dthumb:

pauldun170
12-29-2009, 09:32 AM
Life is pretty dull when you play it safe. If you don't take a chance you never reap the reward.

I see so MANY of you post on here about your huge TV's or new gadgets and how everyone should jump on board and ride the "new fad" train.

We all drool over bikes and goodies and dream about what we'd do if we HAD money....yet I see JUST as many posts about empty hearts and how your personal lives suck. About how you never can get laid (married), or your spouse or girlfriend isn't fulfilling you....granted...those that post that kind of stuff really aren’t self-aware enough to know that’s what they are posting, but basically it boils down to they aren't being fulfilled.

Some of you (men) are so very bitter and or afraid of putting your heart out there that you can’t FIND a significant other, so you focus on yourself 100% (BTW…that’s not an effective way of FINDING anyone either….just so you know) and you sit among your toys and “things” and you’re miserable.

Trust me when I say that that misery comes thru in posts.

Yes my first marriage failed. And yes I DID learn a great deal from it. While I applied SOME of the principle of “pleasing your spouse” to my first marriage, I didn’t make it my top priority. In the end, she wanted something other than what I could offer her….something a LOT of people revert to when they’re not willing to take a chance and put their heart out there and risk having someone damage it……THINGS…….she wanted a house in a gated community, as well as a lake home in the neighborhood all the VP’s of her company lived in. And since I was just a mere engineer with no aspirations of being a vice president of ANYTHING…..she chose a VP at her company who HAD all that. She left to pursue him and after 5 years of stringing her along, dumping her, running back to her, dumping her……..etc….his wife found out about their affair and he’s now out with the shirt on his back sleeping on my ex’s couch :idk:

That’s basically what happened. I’m not bitter, nor do I resent her. She just wasn’t willing to take the chance on letting anyone in, for fear of getting hurt. Her whole life was full of hurt and full of abandonment so I can’t say I blame her. However I WAS willing to take that chance, and I DID get hurt. I DID fail. But I put on my big girl panties, I quit crying and I tried again.

If you fail at something once are you forever a failure? If your favorite team loses a game are they labeled losers forever? Even if you try and fail, it doesn't mean that you didn't learn something, it means you had the BALLS to try in the first place. And if that try failed….you’ve got even bigger balls to TRY again. Anyone who writes off someone because they had a failure, and feels they have nothing to ever offer up, is just a fucking moron, especially if they’ve not even TRIED themselves to begin with.

Now, I’m a few years older, and knew what I was looking for. And at the TOP of the list was finding someone that knew who they were, and knew what they wanted….and were willing to take a huge risk to get it.

I found that.

And granted….YES, I may very well get hurt one day..I may get taken advantage of….but DAMN whatta ride I’m on right now! I could die today and I’d have lived a totally fulfilled complete life. And I don’t need a DAMN thing but my wife and kids.

Can you can sit there and say that?.

I read that and said to my self, damn...
Troy wears panties? WTF!!


That and good post.

CasterTroy
12-29-2009, 09:36 AM
Troy wears panties?

BIG GIRL panties!

karl_1052
12-29-2009, 09:41 AM
Life is pretty dull when you play it safe. If you don't take a chance you never reap the reward.

I see so MANY of you post on here about your huge TV's or new gadgets and how everyone should jump on board and ride the "new fad" train.

We all drool over bikes and goodies and dream about what we'd do if we HAD money....yet I see JUST as many posts about empty hearts and how your personal lives suck. About how you never can get laid (married), or your spouse or girlfriend isn't fulfilling you....granted...those that post that kind of stuff really aren’t self-aware enough to know that’s what they are posting, but basically it boils down to they aren't being fulfilled.

Some of you (men) are so very bitter and or afraid of putting your heart out there that you can’t FIND a significant other, so you focus on yourself 100% (BTW…that’s not an effective way of FINDING anyone either….just so you know) and you sit among your toys and “things” and you’re miserable.

Trust me when I say that that misery comes thru in posts.

Yes my first marriage failed. And yes I DID learn a great deal from it. While I applied SOME of the principle of “pleasing your spouse” to my first marriage, I didn’t make it my top priority. In the end, she wanted something other than what I could offer her….something a LOT of people revert to when they’re not willing to take a chance and put their heart out there and risk having someone damage it……THINGS…….she wanted a house in a gated community, as well as a lake home in the neighborhood all the VP’s of her company lived in. And since I was just a mere engineer with no aspirations of being a vice president of ANYTHING…..she chose a VP at her company who HAD all that. She left to pursue him and after 5 years of stringing her along, dumping her, running back to her, dumping her……..etc….his wife found out about their affair and he’s now out with the shirt on his back sleeping on my ex’s couch :idk:

That’s basically what happened. I’m not bitter, nor do I resent her. She just wasn’t willing to take the chance on letting anyone in, for fear of getting hurt. Her whole life was full of hurt and full of abandonment so I can’t say I blame her. However I WAS willing to take that chance, and I DID get hurt. I DID fail. But I put on my big girl panties, I quit crying and I tried again.

If you fail at something once are you forever a failure? If your favorite team loses a game are they labeled losers forever? Even if you try and fail, it doesn't mean that you didn't learn something, it means you had the BALLS to try in the first place. And if that try failed….you’ve got even bigger balls to TRY again. Anyone who writes off someone because they had a failure, and feels they have nothing to ever offer up, is just a fucking moron, especially if they’ve not even TRIED themselves to begin with.

Now, I’m a few years older, and knew what I was looking for. And at the TOP of the list was finding someone that knew who they were, and knew what they wanted….and were willing to take a huge risk to get it.

I found that.

And granted….YES, I may very well get hurt one day..I may get taken advantage of….but DAMN whatta ride I’m on right now! I could die today and I’d have lived a totally fulfilled complete life. And I don’t need a DAMN thing but my wife and kids.

Can you can sit there and say that?.

Is that a long winded way of saying 101lifts is really gay?
:lol

Good post!:dthumb:

azoomm
12-29-2009, 10:15 AM
Well said Troy!! Bravo!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand all the angst toward a color. I wish women would get over it - I mean, really get over it and stop tearing other women down over the fact that they like what they like.

CrazyKell
12-29-2009, 10:16 AM
Well said Troy!! Bravo!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand all the angst toward a color. I wish women would get over it - I mean, really get over it and stop tearing other women down over the fact that they like what they like.

This.

unknownroad
12-29-2009, 10:38 AM
Dude...
Fap is what boys do.
Flap is what girls do when they get real aggressive and get both hands involved.

:lol


Even if you try and fail, it doesn't mean that you didn't learn something, it means you had the BALLS to try in the first place. And if that try failed….you’ve got even bigger balls to TRY again.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" - H J Simpson

the chi
12-29-2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah good point.

Not blaming him or her cause it is non of my buisness, but the whole "try to make your spouse as happy as possible" thing I'm not buying...It's a recipe to get taken advantage of or used.

Are you flipping serious? How old are you, 12?

Im totally with Troy on this one. Being in a good and fulfilling relationship is not worrying about being taken advantage of or used, shit, if thats what you worry about, you are in the wrong relationship. You guys REALLY need to meet different women.

I failed the first time around too, we both did. I got hurt and burned more than just emotionally, but Im glad I reached out and found someone instead of sitting back, bitching and moaning about how those of us that are "happy" are delusional. Get a grip people. Happiness in a relationship isnt based on just what makes you happy, and if you think it is, you are suffering from some serious selfishness and immaturity. If/when your relationship fails, that will be one of the reasons.

tommymac
12-29-2009, 02:37 PM
Are you flipping serious? How old are you, 12?

Im totally with Troy on this one. Being in a good and fulfilling relationship is not worrying about being taken advantage of or used, shit, if thats what you worry about, you are in the wrong relationship. You guys REALLY need to meet different women.

I failed the first time around too, we both did. I got hurt and burned more than just emotionally, but Im glad I reached out and found someone instead of sitting back, bitching and moaning about how those of us that are "happy" are delusional. Get a grip people. Happiness in a relationship isnt based on just what makes you happy, and if you think it is, you are suffering from some serious selfishness and immaturity. If/when your relationship fails, that will be one of the reasons.

Life is about taking risks and that seems to be better said by you and troy.

I even look at the pros and cons in my relationship, she doesnt make much money and has issues with being on time which drives me nuts, and at times isnt all that motivated.

But we have fun together and can do stuff together as well as on our own. So I get to pursue anr participate in my intrests and not have to make many sacrafices.

Sure theres always the what ifs but I dont realy dwell on that.

derf
12-29-2009, 03:19 PM
Are you flipping serious? How old are you, 12?

Im totally with Troy on this one. Being in a good and fulfilling relationship is not worrying about being taken advantage of or used, shit, if thats what you worry about, you are in the wrong relationship. You guys REALLY need to meet different women.

I failed the first time around too, we both did. I got hurt and burned more than just emotionally, but Im glad I reached out and found someone instead of sitting back, bitching and moaning about how those of us that are "happy" are delusional. Get a grip people. Happiness in a relationship isnt based on just what makes you happy, and if you think it is, you are suffering from some serious selfishness and immaturity. If/when your relationship fails, that will be one of the reasons.

Aren't you glad you finally found me?

HurricaneHeather
12-29-2009, 03:27 PM
Well said Troy!! Bravo!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand all the angst toward a color. I wish women would get over it - I mean, really get over it and stop tearing other women down over the fact that they like what they like.

You're just an attention whore...admit it. :lol:

My new favorite sarcastic thing to say: If you're happy, then you're doing it wrong. :rofl: My dad and I were saying that all day on Christmas. :D

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 03:39 PM
You missed the point. I said WOMEN IN THEIR 40's!!!!!

I didn't say girls. Your SO is a girl. Don't tell me she's a freaking woman, either. :poke: :bonk:

My gear is yellow, red, green and sometimes blue. Black makes you invisible and cagers run over you.

The spikes and maille show my love of the Middle ages, and craftsmanship.

And why do they these threads always revolve around you or the child you date? I said the word pink and you go off the deep end. Stop being so defensive.

Why make a blatant statement that actually covers a few "girls" on this forum besides my gf and not expect an answer. Seriously, what difference does it make to you what color gear other women wear.

Hey you're the one who made the statement about "grown ass women"... I didn't know that girls didn't become women until they are old like you! Hahahaha!

Btw why don't you go on up to the base and explain to all these "girls" that have just come home from Iraq how they aren't adults in your eyes?

FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....

G-Rex
12-29-2009, 03:43 PM
FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....

If the whole board would understand this one statement, life would be *so* much easier.

derf
12-29-2009, 04:04 PM
FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....


Sounds like you are on the defensive to me. I don't think you can hack it here with the big boys. Stop being such a nazi about everything and just accept the fact that your GF is a (HOT) girl, and one day she might grow up to be a (MILF) woman.

Fleck750
12-29-2009, 04:11 PM
Why make a blatant statement that actually covers a few "girls" on this forum besides my gf and not expect an answer. Seriously, what difference does it make to you what color gear other women wear.

Hey you're the one who made the statement about "grown ass women"... I didn't know that girls didn't become women until they are old like you! Hahahaha!

Btw why don't you go on up to the base and explain to all these "girls" that have just come home from Iraq how they aren't adults in your eyes?

FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....Being that the original post got blown waaaaaay off topic, I shoulda kept my mouth shut. Seems OK that men can state what they don't like about women, but I add my 2 cents and it gets pummeled.

It's really OK. I don't care what color anyone wears, dates or rides.

It just irks me that the m/c gear that is made to fit a woman always has to come in pink or blue. I guess if women stopped buying these colors, they would stop making them.

But fortunately for me, being the fat ass that I am, I get to wear men sizes and my color choices are much broader.

And why is it OK for the men to yank your chain over the age of the female you date, but I can't? Yes, being old makes everyone else seem young.

But I wouldn't trade places with them for anything. :D

derf
12-29-2009, 04:13 PM
Seems OK that men can state what they don't like about women, but I add my 2 cents and it gets pummeled.



You are completely correct

Fleck750
12-29-2009, 04:28 PM
You are completely correct

You guys need a mens section to post this stuff in. :cool:

derf
12-29-2009, 04:32 PM
You guys need a mens section to post this stuff in. :cool:

Again correct

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 04:39 PM
Life is pretty dull when you play it safe. If you don't take a chance you never reap the reward.

I see so MANY of you post on here about your huge TV's or new gadgets and how everyone should jump on board and ride the "new fad" train.

We all drool over bikes and goodies and dream about what we'd do if we HAD money....yet I see JUST as many posts about empty hearts and how your personal lives suck. About how you never can get laid (married), or your spouse or girlfriend isn't fulfilling you....granted...those that post that kind of stuff really aren’t self-aware enough to know that’s what they are posting, but basically it boils down to they aren't being fulfilled.

Some of you (men) are so very bitter and or afraid of putting your heart out there that you can’t FIND a significant other, so you focus on yourself 100% (BTW…that’s not an effective way of FINDING anyone either….just so you know) and you sit among your toys and “things” and you’re miserable.

Trust me when I say that that misery comes thru in posts.

Yes my first marriage failed. And yes I DID learn a great deal from it. While I applied SOME of the principle of “pleasing your spouse” to my first marriage, I didn’t make it my top priority. In the end, she wanted something other than what I could offer her….something a LOT of people revert to when they’re not willing to take a chance and put their heart out there and risk having someone damage it……THINGS…….she wanted a house in a gated community, as well as a lake home in the neighborhood all the VP’s of her company lived in. And since I was just a mere engineer with no aspirations of being a vice president of ANYTHING…..she chose a VP at her company who HAD all that. She left to pursue him and after 5 years of stringing her along, dumping her, running back to her, dumping her……..etc….his wife found out about their affair and he’s now out with the shirt on his back sleeping on my ex’s couch :idk:

That’s basically what happened. I’m not bitter, nor do I resent her. She just wasn’t willing to take the chance on letting anyone in, for fear of getting hurt. Her whole life was full of hurt and full of abandonment so I can’t say I blame her. However I WAS willing to take that chance, and I DID get hurt. I DID fail. But I put on my big girl panties, I quit crying and I tried again.

If you fail at something once are you forever a failure? If your favorite team loses a game are they labeled losers forever? Even if you try and fail, it doesn't mean that you didn't learn something, it means you had the BALLS to try in the first place. And if that try failed….you’ve got even bigger balls to TRY again. Anyone who writes off someone because they had a failure, and feels they have nothing to ever offer up, is just a fucking moron, especially if they’ve not even TRIED themselves to begin with.

Now, I’m a few years older, and knew what I was looking for. And at the TOP of the list was finding someone that knew who they were, and knew what they wanted….and were willing to take a huge risk to get it.

I found that.

And granted….YES, I may very well get hurt one day..I may get taken advantage of….but DAMN whatta ride I’m on right now! I could die today and I’d have lived a totally fulfilled complete life. And I don’t need a DAMN thing but my wife and kids.

Can you can sit there and say that?.


Why yes I can! Seriously, I am reasonably happy. I am very self aware, believe it or not. I know what I want and what I need. Again, I honestly don't need another person to be happy. Apparently, you do...and that's just fine. I'm not knocking your way of life am I? It's not completely about "taking chances", it's also about risk verses reward. IMHO the reward isn't worth the risk, in fact I don't necessarily see all of the "rewards" that you do. People like you need that other person to feel whole. You'll stick your hand in the dog's mouth over and over again just on the off chance that it won't bite you this time. I can admire and appreciate that you believe yourself to be "happier" than I am. I understand that you and your ilk believe that the only way for a man to be happy is for him to be married to the "right woman" and have some kids. Okay, that's cool. I'm not sure that the millions of men that lost 1/2 their worth and pay child support on kids they almost never see would agree with you...

When someone posts about getting a new toy, I'm not sure how you read that they are really "miserable", exactly. I honestly don't believe that my personal life sucks...The thing is, you really don't know anything about me. You only know whatever bull crap I post on this forum. Just like everyone else. For all we know, you get drunk and beat your wife every weekend. FAWK, Amorok, draws his wife hot bubble bathes with rose petals and candles every night. You never know. I've had people debate monogamy/morrality with me and someone else PMs me that she cheated on her BF and had to have an abortion. Another person argues ethics only to find out the she cheated on her husband with a member of this forum. Hell, you don't even really know the people the you associate with in real life, how can you claim to know someone on this forum?

BTW I understand that this post wasn't directed at me personally, but since certain aspects reflect things that I post, I thought that I'd respond as an opposing view point to all of the girlie "you go you sensitive man, you!!!" type responses you are sure to get.

Hey you may be in that 10% (or whatever) of marriages that are truly happy and satisfied with each other. You may live, laugh and grow old together just like in the stories or a Norman Rockwell painting, I honestly wish you luck! Seriously. I won't decide for you what you need to be happy and you can't decide for me what will make me happy. What's wrong with posting about new stuff? This is, for all intents and purposes, a forum dedicated to stuff. That's it for me, I'm gonna check the other threads and then be miserable with all of these "fads" and "gadgets" that I have acquired to attempt to fill the void in my heart....*sniffle*

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 04:44 PM
Well said Troy!! Bravo!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand all the angst toward a color. I wish women would get over it - I mean, really get over it and stop tearing other women down over the fact that they like what they like.

This. Except the Troy part....Hahahahaha!

101lifts2
12-29-2009, 04:46 PM
Are you flipping serious? How old are you, 12?

Im totally with Troy on this one. Being in a good and fulfilling relationship is not worrying about being taken advantage of or used, shit, if thats what you worry about, you are in the wrong relationship. You guys REALLY need to meet different women.

I failed the first time around too, we both did. I got hurt and burned more than just emotionally, but Im glad I reached out and found someone instead of sitting back, bitching and moaning about how those of us that are "happy" are delusional. Get a grip people. Happiness in a relationship isnt based on just what makes you happy, and if you think it is, you are suffering from some serious selfishness and immaturity. If/when your relationship fails, that will be one of the reasons.

Maybe you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say....and it doesn't include "not worrying about being used or making only myself happy".

If a guy bends over backwards at anything a chick says or wants, then yes it is a recipe for failure because you are tying to send her to some fantasy land that doesn't exist She will only want more down the road. It is human nature. This is why alot of chicks like guys who are dicks....cause they know they have to work to get anything. It is sort of like a self fulfillment thing.

You need to make YOU happy first or change what needs to be done in order to accomplish it. Why people will remain miserable at the total expense of others "happiness" is beyond me.

karl_1052
12-29-2009, 04:46 PM
If the whole board would understand this one statement, life would be *so* much easier.

but so much more boring. ;)

You guys need a mens section to post this stuff in. :cool:

I thought Trip installed a dishwasher in the womens section so you wouldn't stray to the other parts of the board.

redflip
:lol:

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 04:49 PM
You're just an attention whore...admit it. :lol:

My new favorite sarcastic thing to say: If you're happy, then you're doing it wrong. :rofl: My dad and I were saying that all day on Christmas. :D

I can't believe that I'm saying this but I actually agree with Lucille Ball here. If you seem happy, you must be covering up some deep down despair...

Fleck750
12-29-2009, 04:50 PM
I thought Trip installed a dishwasher in the womens section so you wouldn't stray to the other parts of the board.

redflip
:lol: We ran out of Jet Dry, so we had to come out. :p

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 04:53 PM
If the whole board would understand this one statement, life would be *so* much easier.

Seriously, I only fire when targets are presented. At the end of the day, none of this really matters.

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 04:55 PM
Sounds like you are on the defensive to me. I don't think you can hack it here with the big boys. Stop being such a nazi about everything and just accept the fact that your GF is a (HOT) girl, and one day she might grow up to be a (MILF) woman.

She won't get pregnant by me, I got fixed when I was 23 or so....

azoomm
12-29-2009, 05:16 PM
Oh shit. Tigger just agreed with me :lol:

CasterTroy
12-29-2009, 07:06 PM
People like you need that other person to feel whole.

First off..you assume incorrectly

I don't NEED anyone in my life to "complete me" I'm quite content...but we were not made in pairs to spend our lives alone. The addition of a partner just makes life that much better. Well...when you RESPECT them it makes life better....when they're a possession, it's just another "thing"

second....well...the rest....just not worth a reply...but the fact that you replied means I must have struck a cord somewhere. :nee: (J/K)

Actually, I referenced your TV post just because it was one that got a lot of replies, but I know you're fulla crap ...and




FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....


and a post whore so I don't take your posts too seriously :nee:

racedoll
12-29-2009, 07:22 PM
it just irks me that the m/c gear that is made to fit a woman always has to come in pink or blue. I guess if women stopped buying these colors, they would stop making them.

Amen! Anyone else wants to wear it fine, but make some other colors for those of us that don't.

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 07:29 PM
First off..you ASSume incorrectly

I don't NEED anyone in my life to "complete me" I'm quite content...but we were not made in pairs to spend our lives alone. The addition of a partner just makes life that much better. Well...when you RESPECT them it makes life better....when they're a possession, it's just another "thing"

second....well...the rest....just not worth a reply

Oh my God! You are so sweet and sensitive! Gosh, I am such a brute! Of course, a partner makes things so much better! You and Dr Phil man, you and Dr Phil! I'm going to go and re-evaluate my poor, pathetic, lonely existence and contemplate your sage words. You're an angel, CT a true angel come down from heaven! Hahahaha! Yea I'm sure that YOU never objectify women. No not you. I bet that you would never disrespect your wife by looking at pictures of other women. Nope. I bet you never look at hot girls walking down the street and think, "Boy, I'd sure like to fuck that!". Of course not because that would be disrespectful to your "partner". Sure...

Oh and we were "made" in two sexes for the same reason dogs were, cats were, fish were, etc... to reproduce and for no other reason. Many species of primates, of which we are one, do not take life partners. If it were "normal", instinctual or genetic for our species to be monogamous, we would be incapable of cheating like wolves or penguins. Because it is not "normal", a life long, completely monogamous, as in virgin-virgin never another partner, type relationship is extremely rare.

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Amen! Anyone else wants to wear it fine, but make some other colors for those of us that don't.

I actually agree with that. I think that a lot of women want the more girlie colors BUT the options should be open.

Fleck750
12-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Amen! Anyone else wants to wear it fine, but make some other colors for those of us that don't.

I'm the president of the "pink haters" club. :lmao:

racedoll
12-29-2009, 07:35 PM
I'm the president of the "pink haters" club. :lmao:

Then I must be VP :)

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 07:41 PM
.but the fact that you replied means I must have struck a cord somewhere. :nee: (J/K)

Actually, I referenced your TV post just because it was one that got a lot of replies, but I know you're fulla crap ...and





and a post whore so I don't take your posts too seriously :nee:

oooh Ninja Edit ehhh? Hahahaha! Shit, I don't take my posts seriously! I'm almost always laughing my ass off when I write these types of posts. The only posts I ever do take seriously, is when I'm trying to help someone with their bike. These "feelings" and "relationship" threads crack me up!!! FWIW I honestly don't believe in the premise that there's only one way to live or to be happy. I've been married and was happy, I lived with three girls and was happy (very happy, in some ways!), I've played the field, had GFs, whatever...happiness is a state of mind and I honestly don't need anything but life and it's sustenance to be happy, seriously. I've been "rich" and I've been poor. I've had more pussy than I knew what to do with and I've had none. For the most part, I've been happy because I choose to be. Period.

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 07:43 PM
I'm the president of the "pink haters" club. :lmao:

Well I volunteer to be the President of the pink lovers club!!! Oh yea baby!!!!

Fleck750
12-29-2009, 08:07 PM
Well I volunteer to be the President of the pink lovers club!!! Oh yea baby!!!!Nah, you're the photographer for that club. :lol:

Amber Lamps
12-29-2009, 09:02 PM
Nah, you're the photographer for that club. :lol:

Well, I'm actually the President, photographer, and secretary of that club.

the chi
12-29-2009, 09:39 PM
Maybe you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say....and it doesn't include "not worrying about being used or making only myself happy".

If a guy bends over backwards at anything a chick says or wants, then yes it is a recipe for failure because you are tying to send her to some fantasy land that doesn't exist She will only want more down the road. It is human nature. This is why alot of chicks like guys who are dicks....cause they know they have to work to get anything. It is sort of like a self fulfillment thing.

You need to make YOU happy first or change what needs to be done in order to accomplish it. Why people will remain miserable at the total expense of others "happiness" is beyond me.


Ah, much better said! I hear ya now, but I would like to state that if you think your "partner" will do that to you, you are still dealing with the wrong women. Someone can only take advantage of you if you let them. :wink:

Yes, there are women who will be like that, as there are men. However when in a stable, loving "partnership" per se, I dont know that I would say either party "bends over backwards". Saying it like that (hello Amorok!) makes it almost seem as if doing something for someone you love is painful or non pleasant. After being with my hubby for more than a year now, I can say that going out of my way or not, I dont find anything I do for him to be unpleasant or something I would not want to do if it makes him happy. But I am not thinking about if it makes me happy, just him, and he does exactly the same for me. There is always a give and take. If we did find it unpleasant, we would tell each other.

But what do I know? I've been divorced, I've dated bad seeds, and now I have the man of my dreams, who gives me everything I could ever want in a partner and tells me I do the same. :shrug: Maybe I'm just naive.

askmrjesus
12-29-2009, 09:50 PM
Hater!!!

Perv!

JC

pauldun170
12-29-2009, 11:08 PM
Perv!

JC

Guess that makes me a perv too...:boobs:

101lifts2
12-30-2009, 01:17 AM
.... FWIW I honestly don't believe in the premise that there's only one way to live or to be happy. I've been married and was happy, I lived with three girls and was happy (very happy, in some ways!), I've played the field, had GFs, whatever...happiness is a state of mind and I honestly don't need anything but life and it's sustenance to be happy, seriously. I've been "rich" and I've been poor. I've had more pussy than I knew what to do with and I've had none. For the most part, I've been happy because I choose to be. Period.


I agree...happiness is a state of mind and there is no right or wrong way of life to live in order to accomplish it.

CasterTroy
12-30-2009, 07:12 AM
I bet that you would never disrespect your wife by looking at pictures of other women. Nope. I bet you never look at hot girls walking down the street

she points them out to me when we're together :idk:
especially when it's a nice set of :boobs:


When you're fulfilled the need to look is diminished

Tmall
12-30-2009, 07:16 AM
I would just like to point out that 99.9% of people think their mate is the one.

If you didn't think they were something special, you wouldn't be with em. At the same time, some of us have been burned by "the one" so many times, you'd be an idiot to not be very cautious. It may come off as callous to some of you, but experience doesn't lie..

Avatard
12-30-2009, 12:01 PM
I've been happy because I choose to be. Period.

In life, I think this may be the secret.

karl_1052
12-30-2009, 12:03 PM
I would just like to point out that 99.9% of people think their mate is the one.

I don't believe there is a "one".

I believe that if two people like each other, they can make it work. If they are compatible, there will be very little work involved, if they are not compatible, it will be alot more work than it is worth.

Avatard
12-30-2009, 12:19 PM
I agree with you too, Karl, and I would add that as we get older, we become more set in our ways, more difficult to deal with, and it takes more compromise to make things work.

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 01:02 PM
You're all cute, but wrong. Not one person here has touched on the true secrets to a good marriage, it is actually and honestly much more simple than you all seam to realize.

1) A wife who enjoys watching and understands sports.
2) A wife who will do laundry, make sandwiches and take pride in womanly shit.
3) Threesomes.

Captain Morgan
12-30-2009, 01:02 PM
I believe that if two people like each other, they can make it work. If they are compatible, there will be very little work involved, if they are not compatible, it will be alot more work than it is worth.

I agree with you too, Karl, and I would add that as we get older, we become more set in our ways, more difficult to deal with, and it takes more compromise to make things work.

Which is why I'm still single and have less and less chance (or desire) to get married as I get older.

azoomm
12-30-2009, 01:11 PM
You're all cute, but wrong. Not one person here has touched on the true secrets to a good marriage, it is actually and honestly much more simple than you all seam to realize.

1) A wife who enjoys watching and understands sports.
2) A wife who will do laundry, make sandwiches and take pride in womanly shit.
3) Threesomes.

shhhhhhhhh

Avatard
12-30-2009, 01:13 PM
You're all cute, but wrong. Not one person here has touched on the true secrets to a good marriage, it is actually and honestly much more simple than you all seam to realize.

1) A wife who enjoys watching and understands sports.
2) A wife who will do laundry, make sandwiches and take pride in womanly shit.
3) Threesomes.

Meh, I had a woman like that for 24 years, Josh. Problem is, she increasingly seemed to like fucking other people more, and didn't know how to keep those 3rd parties out of our relationship...and she had an attitude a lot like Kate Gosselin, so she was about as supportive as a beanbag chair, and not exactly what I would describe as "the great woman behind every great man".

You can't have everything in a mate, but kindness, and support also belong on your list. Every good man needs a muse. Crucial if you're an artist.

A woman who is always "competing" with you may seem "frisky" and "feisty" at first, but someone who will back you instead is more of what a man needs.

Any woman too competitive will ultimately seek to "defeat" you.

tommymac
12-30-2009, 01:28 PM
You're all cute, but wrong. Not one person here has touched on the true secrets to a good marriage, it is actually and honestly much more simple than you all seam to realize.

1) A wife who enjoys watching and understands sports.
2) A wife who will do laundry, make sandwiches and take pride in womanly shit.
3) Threesomes.

I guess 2 out of 3 aint bad I just wish 3somes was one of the two :lol:

Tom

G-Rex
12-30-2009, 01:34 PM
Kaneman, your list, while entertaining, isn't entirely accurate.

1. Carolina follows college football. Longhorns football to be precise. As a Sooners fan, believe me when I tell you this can be a mixed blessing. LOL

2. Can't help ya there. I cook and do laundry too and take pride that I'm a pretty good cook. We cook together too and I definitely enjoy that.

3. You can have the threesomes. I am not about to share my hot Brazilian. You fools are on your own. :P

pauldun170
12-30-2009, 01:41 PM
You're all cute, but wrong. Not one person here has touched on the true secrets to a good marriage, it is actually and honestly much more simple than you all seam to realize.

1) A wife who enjoys watching and understands sports.
2) A wife who will do laundry, make sandwiches and take pride in womanly shit.
3) Threesomes.

Shit...I don't care about watching sports. I'm more a do it myself kinda guy vs watching other dudes in tights.

Clean laundry...good. Food good...womanly pride...good.

As for the last one, you really need to be specific as you have been assigned a MMF status by the forum software. We do not need to hear about you dualing with some other dude over roast beef sandwich.

pauldun170
12-30-2009, 01:42 PM
Kaneman, your list, while entertaining, isn't entirely accurate.



3. You can have the threesomes. I am not about to share my hot Brazilian. You fools are on your own. :P

Watch out with wording. Kaneman may assume that....

never mind

forget it

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 02:30 PM
I never said anything about sharing your wife. You'd have to be a fool to let another man touch your wife.

Wife + Woman + Me = Threesome/Happy time.

Avatard
12-30-2009, 02:34 PM
Trust me, Josh, a woman can turn another woman's head too. Don't bring a 3rd party into a relationship unless you are both ready to respect certain boundaries, and it's all discussed up front.

I never lost a woman to another woman, but I did get a glimpse of just how it could happen.

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 02:37 PM
Trust me, Josh, a woman can turn another woman's head too. Don't bring a 3rd party into a relationship unless you are both ready to respect certain boundaries, and it's all discussed up front.

I never lost a woman to another woman, but I did get a glimpse of just how it could happen.

Maybe another woman with a 9" cock...

*shudder*

Avatard
12-30-2009, 02:39 PM
...Or a big dildo that can kill spiders.

karl_1052
12-30-2009, 02:42 PM
1. Carolina follows college football. Longhorns football to be precise. As a Sooners fan, believe me when I tell you this can be a mixed blessing. LOL

That would be more interesting than dinner at the Schwartzeneggers house.

Avatard
12-30-2009, 02:46 PM
Maybe another woman with a 9" cock...

*shudder*

There's an old Brazilian joke that applies here:

"Women don't like cock, fags like cock. Women like credit cards and cars."

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 04:11 PM
There's an old Brazilian joke that applies here:

"Women don't like cock, fags like cock. Women like credit cards and cars."

lol, my wife is Mexican...maybe it doesn't apply to them...

Avatard
12-30-2009, 04:18 PM
Does she have a vagina? It applies.

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 04:22 PM
Does she have a vagina? It applies.

I lived with my parents when I proposed. I had $40 dollars to my name, literally, when we went on our first date. As of now I've been unemployed since April. I don't believe in applying for or using credit cards and refuse to finance anything. My only form of transportation was an FZ1 when we moved out together.

On top of that I'm not that good looking, don't have a six pack, I'm kind of an asshole, I'm not affected by crying, I don't do emotions and when I take a shit everyone in the house knows it.

Sooo...if that was her plan, she failed miserably. But I do have one thing she loves that apparently makes up for all that... :lol:

Fleck750
12-30-2009, 04:54 PM
But I do have one thing she loves that apparently makes up for all that... :lol:


Big hands? :D

101lifts2
12-30-2009, 04:57 PM
I lived with my parents when I proposed. I had $40 dollars to my name, literally, when we went on our first date. As of now I've been unemployed since April. I don't believe in applying for or using credit cards and refuse to finance anything. My only form of transportation was an FZ1 when we moved out together.

On top of that I'm not that good looking, don't have a six pack, I'm kind of an asshole, I'm not affected by crying, I don't do emotions and when I take a shit everyone in the house knows it.

Sooo...if that was her plan, she failed miserably. But I do have one thing she loves that apparently makes up for all that... :lol:

Goes to show Mexican chicks will marry anyone. :boobs:

Or you have a big dick.

defector
12-30-2009, 05:00 PM
.

Sooo...if that was her plan, she failed miserably. But I do have one thing she loves that apparently makes up for all that... :lol:

Samurai swords! :lol

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 05:42 PM
Goes to show Mexican chicks will marry anyone. :boobs:



Right on! But shit, I'm tryin' to get in good with the new majority!

derf
12-30-2009, 06:23 PM
I lived with my parents when I proposed. I had $40 dollars to my name, literally, when we went on our first date. As of now I've been unemployed since April. I don't believe in applying for or using credit cards and refuse to finance anything. My only form of transportation was an FZ1 when we moved out together.

On top of that I'm not that good looking, don't have a six pack, I'm kind of an asshole, I'm not affected by crying, I don't do emotions and when I take a shit everyone in the house knows it.

Sooo...if that was her plan, she failed miserably. But I do have one thing she loves that apparently makes up for all that... :lol:

Are you sure shes really a woman and not like a he-she or something?

Kaneman
12-30-2009, 07:20 PM
Are you sure shes really a woman and not like a he-she or something?

She has a vagina, but also one testicle. Not sure what that meansl