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Captain Morgan
01-05-2010, 01:26 PM
Are you satisfied at work? Why or why not?

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Americans-job-satisfaction-apf-1483464009.html?x=0

WASHINGTON (AP) -- We can't get no job satisfaction.

Even Americans who are lucky enough to have work in this economy are becoming more unhappy with their jobs, according to a new survey that found only 45 percent of Americans are satisfied with their work.

That was the lowest level ever recorded by the Conference Board research group in more than 22 years of studying the issue. In 2008, 49 percent of those surveyed reported satisfaction with their jobs.

The drop in workers' happiness can be partly blamed on the worst recession since the 1930s, which made it difficult for some people to find challenging and suitable jobs. But worker dissatisfaction has been on the rise for more than two decades.

"It says something troubling about work in America. It is not about the business cycle or one grumpy generation," says Linda Barrington, managing director of human capital at the Conference Board, who helped write the report, which was released Tuesday.

Workers have grown steadily more unhappy for a variety of reasons:

-- Fewer workers consider their jobs to be interesting.

-- Incomes have not kept up with inflation.

-- The soaring cost of health insurance has eaten into workers' take-home pay.

If the job satisfaction trend is not reversed, economists say, it could stifle innovation and hurt America's competitiveness and productivity. And it could make unhappy older workers less inclined to take the time to share their knowledge and skills with younger workers.

Nate Carrasco, 26, of Odessa, Texas, says he's been pretty unhappy in most of his jobs, including his current one at an auto parts store.

"There is no sense of teamwork in most places any more," Carrasco gripes.

When the Conference Board's first survey was conducted in 1987, most workers -- 61 percent -- said they were happy in their jobs. The survey of 5,000 households was conducted for the Conference Board by TNS, a global market research company.

One clue that may explain workers' growing dissatisfaction: Only 51 percent now find their jobs interesting -- another low in the survey's 22 years. In 1987, nearly 70 percent said they were interested in their work.

Workers who find their jobs interesting are more likely to be innovative and to take the calculated risks and the initiative that drive productivity and contribute to economic growth, Barrington says.

"What's really disturbing about growing job dissatisfaction is the way it can play into the competitive nature of the U.S. work force down the road and on the growth of the U.S. economy -- all in a negative way," says Lynn Franco, another author of the report and director of the Conference Board's Consumer Research Center.

Conference Board officials and outside economists suggested that weak wage growth helps explain why workers' unhappiness has been rising for more than 20 years. After growing in the 1980s and 1990s, average household incomes adjusted for inflation have been shrinking since 2000.

Also, compared with 1980, three times as many workers contribute to the cost of their health insurance -- and those contributions have gone up. The average employee contribution for single-coverage medical care benefits rose from $48 a month to $76 a month between 1999 and 2006.

Workers under 25 expressed the highest level of dissatisfaction. Roughly 64 percent of workers under 25 say they were unhappy in their jobs. The recession has been especially hard on young workers, who face fewer opportunities now and lower wages, some analysts say.

The most satisfied were those ages 25 to 34, who may see some opportunities for upward mobility as baby boomers retire. Around 47 percent of workers 25 to 34 say they were happy in their jobs.

Some other key findings of the survey:

-- Forty-three percent of workers feel secure in their jobs. In 2008, 47 percent said they feel secure in their jobs, while 59 percent felt that way in 1987.

-- Fifty-six percent say they like their co-workers, slightly less than the 57 percent who said so last year but down from 68 percent in 1987.

-- Fifty-six percent say they are satisfied with their commute to work even as commute times have grown longer over the years. That compares with 54 percent in 2008 and 63 percent in 1987.

-- Fifty-one percent say their are satisfied with their boss. That's down from 55 percent in 2008 and around 60 percent two decades ago.

Carrasco said he wishes his bosses would take time to listen to workers' ideas -- and their difficulties on the job.

"Most of the time they only listen to what their bosses are saying," he says. "Bosses need to come down to the employee level more and see what actually goes on, versus what their paperwork tells them is happening in the stores."

It wouldn't be fair to blame low job satisfaction solely on bad bosses, Barrington says.

"It is two-way responsibility," she says. "Workers also have to figure out what they should be doing to be the most engaged in their jobs and the most productive."

marko138
01-05-2010, 01:41 PM
I'm pretty happy with my job. No raise this year, but I'm still making over 8k more than I was at my last job...so I can live without the raise for a while.

Captain Morgan
01-05-2010, 01:59 PM
I'm pretty happy with my job. No raise this year, but I'm still making over 8k more than I was at my last job...so I can live without the raise for a while.

I hear ya. I didn't get much of a raise when switching jobs, but I'll get 8k after a year of probation and training. The nice thing is that, as gov't employees, we get raises on anniversaries the first 3 years, then the next 3 are every other year, then the last ones are every 3 years. And that's if there is no promotion involved. Don't you just love working for the gov't?

marko138
01-05-2010, 02:03 PM
I hear ya. I didn't get much of a raise when switching jobs, but I'll get 8k after a year of probation and training. The nice thing is that, as gov't employees, we get raises on anniversaries the first 3 years, then the next 3 are every other year, then the last ones are every 3 years. And that's if there is no promotion involved. Don't you just love working for the gov't?
As a matter of fact I do. They dropped the no raise gimmick on us at the 11th hour on NYE...and of course it was effective January 1st. I get it...our state is broke right now. The raises will come back. And like I said, I can do without for a while.

CrazyKell
01-05-2010, 02:06 PM
I'm not happy at the moment...but I lay that totally on ME!

I'm bogged down by projects that stifle my creativity and don't give me much of an outlet.

I'm not paid anywhere near industry standard for what I do.

But....my company has room for me to improve. I like the people I work with. I can move around the world with this company and I don't have a manager that hovers over me.

I am responsible for my own happiness.

Captain Morgan
01-05-2010, 02:52 PM
As a matter of fact I do. They dropped the no raise gimmick on us at the 11th hour on NYE...and of course it was effective January 1st. I get it...our state is broke right now. The raises will come back. And like I said, I can do without for a while.

Ah, didn't realize you worked for the state. Thought you landed a job with Big Brother, like I did. Regardless, state or federal, it's still nice.

I'm not happy at the moment...but I lay that totally on ME!

I'm bogged down by projects that stifle my creativity and don't give me much of an outlet.

I'm not paid anywhere near industry standard for what I do.

But....my company has room for me to improve. I like the people I work with. I can move around the world with this company and I don't have a manager that hovers over me.

I am responsible for my own happiness.

It's definitely nice to have a job where you can be your own person. I will have some of that ability once I get through with this training and probation phase. But I still have to submit everything I do for approval and can't sign my own requests yet. I still don't know enough about the job and I do understand the need for things to work the way they do, so I'm not complaining. Will be nice when I get the freedom though. I'll still have to submit a lot of case closures for approval, but not all, and some documents require manager signature anyway, but it won't be anywhere near what it is right now.

tommymac
01-05-2010, 02:55 PM
I guess I could say I am content, even though I am having a real sucky star tto 2010. I have turned down ER jobs that paid more because of the other perks I get as a state employee, an dthe sid ejobs are prety much status quo. theyre double shifting here now so its agreat opportunity to pick up hrs.

In the 8hrs I have been here so far I saw 2 people and have been padding my post count here and on a few other boards :lol:

Tom

Rider
01-05-2010, 02:56 PM
Work sucks but it's beats unemployment or no check at all.

marko138
01-05-2010, 03:07 PM
Ah, didn't realize you worked for the state. Thought you landed a job with Big Brother, like I did. Regardless, state or federal, it's still nice.



It's definitely nice to have a job where you can be your own person. I will have some of that ability once I get through with this training and probation phase. But I still have to submit everything I do for approval and can't sign my own requests yet. I still don't know enough about the job and I do understand the need for things to work the way they do, so I'm not complaining. Will be nice when I get the freedom though. I'll still have to submit a lot of case closures for approval, but not all, and some documents require manager signature anyway, but it won't be anywhere near what it is right now.
Well, I shoot video. I know the Feds have dudes who do this too...but I dont know that I would take a Federal gig. The Red Tape is unbelievable here...don't know if I could deal with that on the big stage.

tommymac
01-05-2010, 03:12 PM
Well, I shoot video. I know the Feds have dudes who do this too...but I dont know that I would take a Federal gig. The Red Tape is unbelievable here...don't know if I could deal with that on the big stage.

Plus youre dealing withthe politicians directly which can majorly suck. I jus thappen to be employed by the state. Only time I realy see the politicians is when cop gets shot.

marko138
01-05-2010, 03:13 PM
Plus youre dealing withthe politicians directly which can majorly suck. I jus thappen to be employed by the state. Only time I realy see the politicians is when cop gets shot.
I deal directly with the politicians almost every day....well every day they are here. :lol:

Cutty72
01-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Don't know. Haven't even worked a day at the job I have when I get home.
I know I'm taking a pay cut from what I was doing, but it's the price of getting your foot in the door. Hope it pays off in the long run.

Fleck750
01-05-2010, 04:58 PM
My job sucks. Not because of the low pay, lack of anything interesting to do, but because of the cunt I have to work for. She made a half livable job miserable. Women should not be supervisors.

CrazyKell
01-05-2010, 05:05 PM
Women should not be supervisors.

Just about the most retarded thing I've ever heard you say. :idk:

Amorok
01-05-2010, 05:39 PM
I don't really dig my career feild, but I like being in the Air Force. And really, my job is awesome I would just rather be back on the flightline fixing jets. However, while that job was more enjoyable, I'm half crippled from only five years of it, plus I can actually have a family life in the desk job, so even if it's not as fulfilling I'll keep doing what I do now until retirement.

Fleck750
01-05-2010, 05:43 PM
Just about the most retarded thing I've ever heard you say. :idk:

I have had ONE woman that was a decent supervisor. The rest have been psychos. I would make a crappy boss. I would much rather work for men, they don't play games and if they hit on you, you can file a complaint.

unknownroad
01-05-2010, 06:27 PM
I'm surprised it's as high as 45%

Guess it's all the .gov employees. Don't deal with them much, but the only people i've ever known who were satisfied with their jobs were the ones who owned their own companies.

Particle Man
01-05-2010, 06:33 PM
I'm satisfied just to have a job...

Captain Morgan
01-05-2010, 07:40 PM
I'm surprised it's as high as 45%

Guess it's all the .gov employees. Don't deal with them much, but the only people i've ever known who were satisfied with their jobs were the ones who owned their own companies.

I'm a gov employee. I've been told that once I get out of all the training, this job is the next best thing to being self-employed. Basically get to set your own hours, within reason, and handle work the way you feel is appropriate. Some things still need approval, but as long as you're doing your job, it's suppose to be pretty good.

MissHell
01-05-2010, 09:08 PM
I like my job and the people I work with. I get paid well.

My biggest concern is that I plan to work another 20 years and I don't feel secure that my job will be around that long. :eek:

unknownroad
01-05-2010, 11:16 PM
I'm satisfied just to have a job...

I suspect that's the only reason the number is so high.

I'm a gov employee. I've been told that once I get out of all the training, this job is the next best thing to being self-employed.

I'm looking for a .gov gig, but they're tough to come by if you haven't done your time in the .mil. Sucks, since it's the only growth industry left.

This year at work we got a 3% "This Economy"(tm) pay cut, our annual increase in health insurance costs and reduction of health benefits, and more work since we're the lucky 50% or so who haven't been laid off yet.

Arbeit macht frei, y'all.

101lifts2
01-05-2010, 11:42 PM
My job sucks. Not because of the low pay, lack of anything interesting to do, but because of the cunt I have to work for. She made a half livable job miserable. Women should not be supervisors.

Yeah they should just spread eagle, cook and clean. :boobs:

Amber Lamps
01-06-2010, 12:14 AM
I'm cool with my job. I do different things every day and meet different people in varied settings. best of all, I show up at the office at 8am leave and don't have to be back until the next morning at 8 am. As long as my work is done nobody cares how I do it and I work at my pace by myself.

Papa_Complex
01-06-2010, 07:43 AM
I make good money and get annual increases. I manage my own job queue and don't get grief unless I'm loafing (ie. it has never happened). I haven't been micro-managed since I told New Boss that I didn't appreciate being micro managed. The job keeps my brain engaged. The human scenery is great. I've got it pretty good.

OneSickPsycho
01-06-2010, 08:15 AM
My job sucks. Grossly underpaid, boss is a douche, but the people are cool.

marko138
01-06-2010, 09:18 AM
I'm a gov employee. I've been told that once I get out of all the training, this job is the next best thing to being self-employed. Basically get to set your own hours, within reason, and handle work the way you feel is appropriate. Some things still need approval, but as long as you're doing your job, it's suppose to be pretty good.

What exactly do you do?


I suspect that's the only reason the number is so high.



I'm looking for a .gov gig, but they're tough to come by if you haven't done your time in the .mil. Sucks, since it's the only growth industry left.

This year at work we got a 3% "This Economy"(tm) pay cut, our annual increase in health insurance costs and reduction of health benefits, and more work since we're the lucky 50% or so who haven't been laid off yet.

Arbeit macht frei, y'all.

I've been there. Last January (when I worked in TV) we laid off 13 people and the people who were lucky enough to keep their jobs took a mandatory 3.9% pay cut and lost all OT. So really it was more than just 4%.

A week later I applied for the Guv job I have now. My buddies in news still haven't got their 3.9% back...

I'm cool with my job. I do different things every day and meet different people in varied settings. best of all, I show up at the office at 8am leave and don't have to be back until the next morning at 8 am. As long as my work is done nobody cares how I do it and I work at my pace by myself.

There's a lot to be said about that. :cheers:

LeeNetworX
01-06-2010, 09:23 AM
http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=12004&highlight=complain

the chi
01-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Its too early for me to say for certain, but after quitting the crappy job for this local govt job, getting weekends, holidays and time and a half off for working OT(found this out today), I think I can say regardless of the crap I deal with, I like my job. And so far, its decent. Coworkers are cool, boss is great, and as long as I get my job done and take care of business, my time is my ow

HurricaneHeather
01-06-2010, 05:52 PM
I want to punch my boss in the face today and pretty much everyday. :lol:

I'm just bored and so is everyone else and we are all women. So you know what bored women do? Start drama. :lol:

anthonyk
01-06-2010, 05:56 PM
I still like my job, and I'm doing all I can to make sure it stays around for the long haul. Can't complain at all.

Adeptus_Minor
01-06-2010, 06:40 PM
Wow.. I fit into a few of their statistics there.

1. I find my job boring
2. The many expenses that come out of my gross pay are cutting into my take-home.
3. My job is stable. I've been in this position for 5 years now.
4. My commute sucks (~30 miles each way)

I believe the stability and decent amount of pay for the work expected of me is what keeps me there, despite the unsatisfying elements.
At this moment, if I left my current job, I'm not confident that my skill set could get me into another job with equal or similar pay and benefits.

Jeez... I need to go back to school :rolleyes:

HurricaneHeather
01-07-2010, 09:54 AM
At this moment, if I left my current job, I'm not confident that my skill set could get me into another job with equal or similar pay and benefits.

Jeez... I need to go back to school :rolleyes:

This right here is why I haven't quit. :rolleyes: