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EpyonXero
01-06-2010, 10:10 AM
http://www.gizmag.com/roehr-set-to-unveil-96-bhp-electric-sports-motorcycle/13702/
Looks like a backflip waiting to happen.
Roehr Motorcycles, producers of the American-built 180 bhp 1250sc sportbike, is to introduce two electric motorcycles before mid-year, topped by a 96 bhp motorcycle with race level performance, 210 lb/ft of torque, and premium suspension and brake components which it has dubbed the eSuperbike. Significantly, even a lower spec eSupersport model with 48 bhp, 105 lb/ft of torque will top 100 mph. No details have yet been announced on the range of the bikes, but viable electric sports motorcycles are clearly going to be available before the end of the year.
The new electric range will be known as eRoehr and the range-topping superbike will use a high energy discharge, 10 Kwh, lithium iron phosphate battery pack and form the basis of Roehr Motorcycles' entry into the upcoming 2010 US TTXGP series. Roehr Motorcycles will also be offering race prepared versions of the eSuperbike for teams or individuals competing in the upcoming TTXGP, and FIM e-Power racing series'.
Pricing and additional information will be announced over the coming weeks.
http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/lrg/96bhp-eroehr-esuperbike.jpg
TYEster
01-06-2010, 10:15 AM
Doubt it, the numbers are impressive with electric vehicles, but they always manage to screw up putting that power down through poor drive train/gearing options.
CasterTroy
01-06-2010, 10:18 AM
Bet it'll weigh +700lbs
marko138
01-06-2010, 10:31 AM
Should be interesting.
so is this the new american boutique sportsbike template? Fail hard at building a gas bike and attempt to go electric?
btw that pic is the gas bike. Electrics dont need akrapovic
Rider
01-06-2010, 11:35 AM
btw that pic is the gas bike. Electrics dont need akrapovic
Or radiators.
You don't get gov't subsidies or VC these days by building ICE-based bikes (Internal Combustion Engine).
so is this the new american boutique sportsbike template? Fail hard at building a gas bike and attempt to go electric?
Wanna bet? Any time you transform energy (to motion, convert voltage, etc), you get heat due to efficiency losses. That's why AC adapter power bricks get warm to the touch.
A single AC motor located directly in front of the rear wheel powers the Enertia TTR. Manufactured by Perm Motor in Germany, the compact motor is a brushless, permanent-magnet design that is more efficient and durable than the simpler, less-expensive, brush-type motors most other TTXGP entries used. The peak efficiency rating is 94 percent (compared to approximately 25 percent efficiency for the very best internal-combustion engines), and the motor is liquid-cooled to minimize heat-related losses, with a tiny radiator mounted below the headstock. The motor's continuous-power rating is 20 kW, with a peak power rating of 30 kW. In TTXGP tune, this translates to 30 horsepower and 53 lb.-ft. of torque at the rear wheel. Custom sideplates allow the motor to be mounted as a stressed member, and there is no gearbox or primary drive; the drive sprocket mounts directly to the motor output shaft. A cush drive on the rear hub minimizes driveline lash.
Or radiators.
Rider
01-06-2010, 11:52 AM
Wanna bet? Any time you transform energy (to motion, convert voltage, etc), you get heat due to efficiency losses. That's why AC adapter power bricks get warm to the touch.
A tiny radiator below the headstock is different than the 2 big radiators on the side of the bike in the picture.
goof2
01-06-2010, 12:03 PM
so is this the new american boutique sportsbike template? Fail hard at building a gas bike and attempt to go electric?
Charge someone $45,000 for a traditional gasoline powered bike and the customer wants it to do meaningless things like perform to at least the level of a $10k 600. Someone paying a similar amount for an electric bike cares about one important thing, how much smug the bike lets them carry.
marko138
01-06-2010, 01:58 PM
btw that pic is the gas bike. Electrics dont need akrapovic
Wrong. Everything needs Akrapovic.
Charge someone $45,000 for a traditional gasoline powered bike and the customer wants it to do meaningless things like perform to at least the level of a $10k 600. Someone paying a similar amount for an electric bike cares about one important thing, how much smug the bike lets them carry.
well i supose i can endorse this behavior if it ends in the firey highway deaths of ed begley jr and that flat bitch from baywatch
Wrong. Everything needs Akrapovic.
i wonder if they make a can for my cat?
marko138
01-06-2010, 02:06 PM
well i supose i can endorse this behavior if it ends in the firey highway deaths of ed begley jr and that flat bitch from baywatch
i wonder if they make a can for my cat?
For the right price I bet they could. :lol:
For the right price I bet they could. :lol:
kill alexandria paul? Or help with max's ''emissions''? :Lmao:
Homeslice
01-06-2010, 02:31 PM
How much is this going to cost, like $50K?
The styling is 7-8 years behind, IMO.
How much is this going to cost, like $50K?
The styling is 7-8 years behind, IMO.
and ripped off at that
Homeslice
01-06-2010, 02:43 PM
and ripped off at that
Yep...........Ducati tail, Aprilia tank, and UM headlights.....
goof2
01-06-2010, 02:48 PM
How much is this going to cost, like $50K?
The styling is 7-8 years behind, IMO.
The "introductory special pricing program" price for the supercharged Harley Revolution engine version was $45k. I would guess the "eSupersport" model will be $55+ and the "eSuperbike" model will be $65+.
The front certainly resembles that of a Duc 999. That debuted in 2003.
101lifts2
01-06-2010, 03:04 PM
I almsot bought an electric scooter to commute on so I could plug it in at work and ride everyday for free. lol....That company went out of buisness recently, though.
marko138
01-06-2010, 03:14 PM
Yep...........Ducati tail, Aprilia tank, and UM headlights.....
Pretty sure the original Roeher had Buell Firebolt headlights turned on their side.
The "introductory special pricing program" price for the supercharged Harley Revolution engine version was $45k. I would guess the "eSupersport" model will be $55+ and the "eSuperbike" model will be $65+.
The front certainly resembles that of a Duc 999. That debuted in 2003.
crossed with an agusta
Homeslice
01-06-2010, 03:52 PM
I almsot bought an electric scooter to commute on so I could plug it in at work and ride everyday for free. lol....That company went out of buisness recently, though.
Your ass is ballin, why you worried about saving gas money.
Adeptus_Minor
01-06-2010, 07:08 PM
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:
and completely impractical
karl_1052
01-06-2010, 08:11 PM
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:
I wouldn't spend $45K on an 1198R, let alone an electric bike from a manufacturer that could be out of business tomorrow.
Tmall
01-06-2010, 08:15 PM
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:
I completely see what you're saying, "baby steps"..
i still want to see a steam bike
Adeptus_Minor
01-07-2010, 01:55 AM
I wouldn't spend $45K on an 1198R, let alone an electric bike from a manufacturer that could be out of business tomorrow.
Not suggesting you should, just saying that what's rare, impractical, and expensive today may be affordable and worthwhile to the average motorcyclist in the future... if the technology is allowed time and the necessary interest to develop.
karl_1052
01-07-2010, 05:42 AM
Not suggesting you should, just saying that what's rare, impractical, and expensive today may be affordable and worthwhile to the average motorcyclist in the future... if the technology is allowed time and the necessary interest to develop.
I still wouldn't buy it.:td:
marko138
01-07-2010, 09:43 AM
I wouldn't spend $45K on an 1198R, let alone an electric bike from a manufacturer that could be out of business tomorrow.
I'd spend the cash on teh Duc if I had it.
Adeptus_Minor
01-07-2010, 11:45 AM
I still wouldn't buy it.:td:
Then go suck eggs, grandpa redflip :lol:
Homeslice
01-07-2010, 04:19 PM
I still wouldn't buy it.:td:
Jay Leno would. Probably already put down a deposit, in fact.
marko138
01-07-2010, 04:22 PM
Jay Leno would. Probably already put down a deposit, in fact.
Because he's queer.
Homeslice
01-07-2010, 04:25 PM
Because he's queer.
At least he's consistent. Most wealthy people are diletantes who change hobbies as often as they change clothes.
marko138
01-07-2010, 04:25 PM
At least he's consistent. Most wealthy people are diletantes who change hobbies as often as they change clothes.
He's consistent as sucking dong too.
Adeptus_Minor
01-07-2010, 04:26 PM
He's consistent as sucking dong too.
Don't hate just because he owns (and regularly drives) cars most of us just dream about :nee:
goof2
01-07-2010, 04:44 PM
Jay Leno would. Probably already put down a deposit, in fact.
The difference is, unlike most Americans, Jay Leno can afford to buy as many expensive, impractical, pieces of shit as he wants. It isn't a good sign when this bike would probably overtake his turbine engined bike as the least practical motorcycle he owns. Leno is far from a discerning consumer.
The difference is, unlike most Americans, Jay Leno can afford to buy as many expensive, impractical, pieces of shit as he wants. It isn't a good sign when this bike would probably overtake his turbine engined bike as the least practical motorcycle he owns. Leno is far from a discerning consumer.
yeouch
marko138
01-07-2010, 04:51 PM
Don't hate just because he owns (and regularly drives) cars most of us just dream about :nee:
I seriously don't give a fuck about his cars, his bikes, or him. I just want his terrible show cancelled.
Adeptus_Minor
01-07-2010, 06:03 PM
I just want his terrible show cancelled.
He has a show anymore?
Homeslice
01-07-2010, 09:43 PM
I seriously don't give a fuck about his cars, his bikes, or him. I just want his terrible show cancelled.
He's not great, but it's still better than being forced to look at Conan's "haircut" for 90 minutes.
Speaking of which, NBC is going to give the first 30 minutes back to Jay, followed by Conan for the remaining 60.
Homeslice
01-07-2010, 09:45 PM
The difference is, unlike most Americans, Jay Leno can afford to buy as many expensive, impractical, pieces of shit as he wants. It isn't a good sign when this bike would probably overtake his turbine engined bike as the least practical motorcycle he owns. Leno is far from a discerning consumer.
More discerning than the Sultan of Brunei and similar Middle Eastern and Indonesian royalty who never worked a day in their lives, who purchase 20-30 of the same model just because they want one of each color. As far as I know, Leno only buys 1 of each model.
goof2
01-07-2010, 11:05 PM
More discerning than the Sultan of Brunei and similar Middle Eastern and Indonesian royalty who never worked a day in their lives, who purchase 20-30 of the same model just because they want one of each color. As far as I know, Leno only buys 1 of each model.
That's like saying you are more discerning than Wilt Chamberlain when it comes to women.:lol:
I'm not knocking Leno's vehicles. Its his money, he can buy whatever strikes his fancy. From what I have seen some of Leno's purchasing decisions are made based on how unique, interesting, or historic a vehicle is. I love some of the vehicles he has. Some I don't like at all. Either way, his buying criteria are much different than mine and his purchasing decisions in no way affect my opinion of a vehicle.
My opinion of this vehicle remains that it will be an expensive, impractical, piece of shit. This is based on the simple fact that if on average you only use 1/3 of those 48hp on the base version you aren't even going to get 1 hour out of the 10 Kwh battery. That is with perfect efficiency in the electronic system and drivetrain, something that is impossible to do. Testing may change my mind, but based on what they are claiming I remain confident it will suck.:td:
101lifts2
01-07-2010, 11:54 PM
Your ass is ballin, why you worried about saving gas money.
Dude ur makin more than me...U ballin.
Oh yeah it's SPORTBIKE not sportSbike.
defector
01-08-2010, 11:23 AM
I know it isn't the same, but I got a chance to ride a ZERO Bike set up for supermoto and it was alright, but nothing special.
OneSickPsycho
01-08-2010, 05:07 PM
What I find more interesting is the fact that there's an electric only race series... when did that happen?
What I find more interesting is the fact that there's an electric only race series... when did that happen?
last isle of man, a one make vespa series would be faster
OneSickPsycho
01-08-2010, 05:13 PM
last isle of man, a one make vespa series would be faster
Hey, I'm all for something to goose this technology.
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