Modern Warfare 2..

[Tmall]

Has stopped being fun,.. :idk:

With people camping, lag, "cheating" and glitches.

The fact that it's all open server, ie a level 1 plays with somebody on their third round of prestige, as in they're level 210.

What a pile of shit. In the last week, I've finished maybe a dozen games. All you have is dickheads in free for all doing teamwork so one of them can get their 25 kill streak and end the game.

Well, fuck you! The minute I see the nuke countdown. I shut off my console. There is NO way that somebody should be able to get 25 unanswered kills on free for all. Period. NONE. You're not getting my kill added to your count. I'd rather lose my 15 kills than give you one more.

I made level 44 and I'm ready to snap the disc in half..

[goof2]

I stopped being interested in MOH multiplayer when they decided to make it complex. I enjoyed it a lot more when there were no levels or any of that other bullshit. I wanted to play it to go kill the shit out of a bunch of people. Additional layers of complexity didn't improve the experience.

[Dave]

what system are you on? All the glitches i knew of have been fixed. And i have no problems hitting top slot in FFA using pistol only. People complaining about ''camping'' is fucking retarded, especially in any of the non deathmatch modes when you have objectives that need to be protected.

[Sean]

Yeah, there should be levels. It's pretty frustrating to start. At least in Halo you're given a fighting chance as a n00b.

[t-homo]

I still play the shit out of COD4 after owning it for a couple years and don't see MW2 being any different once I get it. I do wait for a while to buy games like this so the hype can wear off and the douches thin out some though.

[Dave]

I still play the shit out of COD4 after owning it for a couple years and don't see MW2 being any different once I get it. I do wait for a while to buy games like this so the hype can wear off and the douches thin out some though.

its actually a lot worse since christmas though i imagine folks will wane after a few months

[Tmall]

what system are you on? All the glitches i knew of have been fixed. And i have no problems hitting top slot in FFA using pistol only. People complaining about ''camping'' is fucking retarded, especially in any of the non deathmatch modes when you have objectives that need to be protected.

Camping is so loathed by online players, that many games you can be kicked for it. It's so loathed that counterstrike had a no sniper option.


I know several people who have stopped for the reasons I listed. If you don't think it's a problem, keep enjoying the game. But, I think the fact that I'm usually the lowest rank at 44 in any game I play tells you how others feel about it.

I won't even get started on how I shoot somebody six times,(two bursts from my m16 to the center of mass and head) and then they knife me or shoot me with a much weaker gun and get me with one shot to the chest. B fuckign S...

[Tmall]

I still play the shit out of COD4 after owning it for a couple years and don't see MW2 being any different once I get it. I do wait for a while to buy games like this so the hype can wear off and the douches thin out some though.

I've never played world at war online, I think I might go to that. ( I know it's not cod4 but, I'm getting way too frustrated with this game)

[pauldun170]

Camping doesn't bother me.
Bunny hoppers bother me

I haven't played online in awhile but when I did it was on servers with reticles and labels turned off. Usually other restrictions as well on types of weapons available.

[Trip]

LOL, this is why I sold the game quickly before it was out for awhile and made most of my money back.

[Sean]

What's the problem with campers? You see them on the killcam and then go shoot them. I can never get more than 2-3 kills in one spot before I get paybacked.

My issue is more with the stupid crap like shooting someone and having cash fly out of them and those dumb wild west guns they put in there. Still fun, but holy gay.

[AquaPython]

WaW is fun, but it takes even MORE bullets (than either MW) take someone down in normal Core mode.
play hardcore. much more mature players in HC. no little kids playing it like an arcade game. 1-2 bullets is all it takes every time. in all three of these games. no cheating with the minimap, unless UAV is EARNED. camping is realistic and you need to deal with it. i dont often camp myself, but i do have certain areas in most maps i like to hold down. either by myself or with others. but if the action is not there, i leave usually. in HC you have to take it slow. if you are looking for some one man rambo type of game, where you are supposed to go running into the infinite enemy hoards, then COD is not really for you.

[Tmall]

What's the problem with campers? You see them on the killcam and then go shoot them. I can never get more than 2-3 kills in one spot before I get paybacked.

My issue is more with the stupid crap like shooting someone and having cash fly out of them and those dumb wild west guns they put in there. Still fun, but holy gay.

You mean an 1800's double barreled shotgun? And how a guy can shoot me across the screen with akimbo pistols, but I can't hit him even though my acog scope is centered on his chest and I have the trigger held down? Ya, I like that part too..

[Dave]

Camping is so loathed by online players, that many games you can be kicked for it. It's so loathed that counterstrike had a no sniper option.


I know several people who have stopped for the reasons I listed. If you don't think it's a problem, keep enjoying the game. But, I think the fact that I'm usually the lowest rank at 44 in any game I play tells you how others feel about it.

I won't even get started on how I shoot somebody six times,(two bursts from my m16 to the center of mass and head) and then they knife me or shoot me with a much weaker gun and get me with one shot to the chest. B fuckign S...

for starters noone wishes there was a pistols only mode more than me. Secondly that c word gets thrown about so much that a good 95% of the time its used the other guy wasnt camping. And even if they are camping its easy as hell to go back and kill them. I see those people as freebies.

[Tmall]

WaW is fun, but it takes even MORE bullets (than either MW) take someone down in normal Core mode.
play hardcore. much more mature players in HC. no little kids playing it like an arcade game. 1-2 bullets is all it takes every time. in all three of these games. no cheating with the minimap, unless UAV is EARNED. camping is realistic and you need to deal with it. i dont often camp myself, but i do have certain areas in most maps i like to hold down. either by myself or with others. but if the action is not there, i leave usually. in HC you have to take it slow. if you are looking for some one man rambo type of game, where you are supposed to go running into the infinite enemy hoards, then COD is not really for you.

Do you respawn in hc? I think they could make FFA much better if they would disable the chat. Then you don't have two guys who line up so you can use the front guy as a shield, and the rear guy just racks up kill streaks. This pisses me off more than camping. In certain maps, camping has it's place.

What really drives me is when you're running around a map for 10 minutes and you "see" two guys. But, when you try to kill them, you're sniped off by the other 6 camping. So, you walk around getting shot until you see another guy hunting and the two of you get sniped.

I'm obviously still playing it, but I've been at 44 for about a week. And it only took me about 3-4 days to get there.

It's becoming continuously harder to find games as well. And the game also jumps around(your guy warps around on his own) or it freezes when you're about to knife a guy, so he has another 5 seconds to be ready to blow you away.

Basically, it's gone downhill very very fast. If I had known it would have been like this, I wouldn't have dropped the 60 bucks to renew live for another year..

[Dave]

You mean an 1800's double barreled shotgun? And how a guy can shoot me across the screen with akimbo pistols, but I can't hit him even though my acog scope is centered on his chest and I have the trigger held down? Ya, I like that part too..

the 1800s have already been gimped. As for your other issue you know what you see isint what the other guy sees right? If his connection is better than yours or his console is host he has a speed advantage over you regardless of what you see. Watch it in kill cam. You might have fired half a mag but in the final judgment you barely got off a shot

[Sean]

I've noticed better response going from a wireless connection (DLink Gaming) to a wired Cat6 cable.

[Dave]

I've noticed better response going from a wireless connection (DLink Gaming) to a wired Cat6 cable.

damn skippy, i have a wired connection with my ps3 in the router's dmz. Nat2 all day and i catch hosting duties semi regularly

[Sean]

How do you know you're hosting?

[TYEster]

How do you know you're hosting?

When you first enter a server, you'll be the first one in with full green bars while everyone else is sitting at 1 half-red bar.

BTW this game totally caters to campers. You can't run across a map without getting picked off by someone sitting in a window. But I'll deal and still play it.


*Tmall - not to rain on you're parade, but what Free-for-all do you play that allows 25kills and a nuke? The match is won at 25.

[Tmall]

I've noticed better response going from a wireless connection (DLink Gaming) to a wired Cat6 cable.

This could be it. I have a pretty long run of cat 5(?). Would wireless be faster??

When you first enter a server, you'll be the first one in with full green bars while everyone else is sitting at 1 half-red bar.

BTW this game totally caters to campers. You can't run across a map without getting picked off by someone sitting in a window. But I'll deal and still play it.


*Tmall - not to rain on you're parade, but what Free-for-all do you play that allows 25kills and a nuke? The match is won at 25.

The match is won at 30 or a score limit. The ones I play anyway. And with nukes, I've seen 35+ kills. That's why if I see somebody tag teaming, I shut down the console before the nuke hits. It's petty, but I'm fine with that.

[Dave]

When you first enter a server, you'll be the first one in with full green bars while everyone else is sitting at 1 half-red bar.

BTW this game totally caters to campers. You can't run across a map without getting picked off by someone sitting in a window. But I'll deal and still play it.


*Tmall - not to rain on you're parade, but what Free-for-all do you play that allows 25kills and a nuke? The match is won at 25.

tried joining you in game the other day but that option seems broken lately

[Sean]

This could be it. I have a pretty long run of cat 5(?). Would wireless be faster??


I mean, I got better response going to a wired from a wireless (sorry that was clear as mud)

[TYEster]

tried joining you in game the other day but that option seems broken lately

I can't join my friends' games either, I think it's because of the new wireless security I have setup at my house to prevent all my neighbors' "catz' from stealin my bandwitz."

[Sixxxxer]

I laugh at people who complain about video games...Granted Ive def gotten aggravated to some degree...But to shut down your console completely and get that upset about it??

Just quit and find a new lobby...OR...find people who play like you and that you anjoy playing with and do private matches...Shit in halo 2 and 3 i would be in full lobby private match games bc noone wanted to play matchmaking so we just played amongst ourselves...still fun as shit and less aggravating.

I personally LOVE the game...the bugs are being worked out and its a blast...im a 66 right now and probably wont prestige...Its not worth it to me

Oh...and Stop playing free for all and start playing hardcore game modes...It makes the game ALOT better...Trust me

[Kaneman]

haha, sounds like you have a slow connection or you just suck at MW2. I don't have any of those problems.

[Tmall]

haha, sounds like you have a slow connection or you just suck at MW2. I don't have any of those problems.

I'm starting to think it's the connection. I've been watching the killcams, and it seems as though I'm seriously lagging.

[Sixxxxer]

Tmall are you on a wireless Connection?

[Dave]

Heck when i was playing FFA last night we caught a kid using a lag switch. Didnt do him any good cause he still got smoked. Made for a great game winning killcam though

[Tmall]

Tmall are you on a wireless Connection?
No, I have cat 5 running from the computer room to the xbox.

Heck when i was playing FFA last night we caught a kid using a lag switch. Didnt do him any good cause he still got smoked. Made for a great game winning killcam though

What is this lag switch you speak of? I'm relatively new to online gaming.

[Tmall]

I laugh at people who complain about video games...Granted Ive def gotten aggravated to some degree...But to shut down your console completely and get that upset about it??

Just quit and find a new lobby...OR...find people who play like you and that you anjoy playing with and do private matches...Shit in halo 2 and 3 i would be in full lobby private match games bc noone wanted to play matchmaking so we just played amongst ourselves...still fun as shit and less aggravating.

I personally LOVE the game...the bugs are being worked out and its a blast...im a 66 right now and probably wont prestige...Its not worth it to me

Oh...and Stop playing free for all and start playing hardcore game modes...It makes the game ALOT better...Trust me
I gave hc a go. I like it much more. It's a lot harder obviously, and I still got smoked. But, if somebody is camping all you have to do it throw a grenade near em.

[Trip]

What is this lag switch you speak of? I'm relatively new to online gaming.

pretty much what it sounds like, a switch usually on the orange or green wire of your cat5 that you can switch on and off to lag your player out during the game and pop back up somewhere else. Basically it looks like you stopped and then you magically appear on the other side of the map.

[Sixxxxer]

I gave hc a go. I like it much more. It's a lot harder obviously, and I still got smoked. But, if somebody is camping all you have to do it throw a grenade near em.


Google the way to set up a Hardcore class on the Game...Silenced Weapons and Cold blodded are good things to have...as well as a few other tips to help ya...Its more real life (where one bullet to the head and your pretty much dead) and you loose all the aids that help you aim/radar/grande indicators and such...I like it bc its a more real version and you dont have to unload entire clips into ppl...The downside is you yourself die easier...But its a fun game type IMO

[Dave]

Google the way to set up a Hardcore class on the Game...Silenced Weapons and Cold blodded are good things to have...as well as a few other tips to help ya...Its more real life (where one bullet to the head and your pretty much dead) and you loose all the aids that help you aim/radar/grande indicators and such...I like it bc its a more real version and you dont have to unload entire clips into ppl...The downside is you yourself die easier...But its a fun game type IMO

there isint a single weapon in mw2 that takes ''clips'' ;)

[Dave]

pretty much what it sounds like, a switch usually on the orange or green wire of your cat5 that you can switch on and off to lag your player out during the game and pop back up somewhere else. Basically it looks like you stopped and then you magically appear on the other side of the map.

only thing i can add to this is they usually use a set time circuit so you dont have to manually turn yourself back on

[TYEster]

I laugh at people who complain about video games...Granted Ive def gotten aggravated to some degree...But to shut down your console completely and get that upset about it??


Bwahahahaha you should hear me when I get my headset on.

There's only one way to deal with shit talking 12 year olds, give it right back to em! :lol:

[AquaPython]

why run a silencer in HC? i don't see the point. there is no minimap that gives away your position. other weapon add ons are much more useful in HC, IMO. same with the extra bullet damage perk, kinda pointless in HC. but i agree on cold blooded. and ninja if you are playing against a bunch of nubs with hearbeat sensors.

[TYEster]

why run a silencer in HC? i don't see the point. there is no minimap that gives away your position. other weapon add ons are much more useful in HC, IMO. same with the extra bullet damage perk, kinda pointless in HC. but i agree on cold blooded. and ninja if you are playing against a bunch of nubs with hearbeat sensors.

I only use those for the weapon challenges.

The problem is once I finish a weapon challenge, I move to the next gun and start it all over.

[Tmall]

why run a silencer in HC? i don't see the point. there is no minimap that gives away your position. other weapon add ons are much more useful in HC, IMO. same with the extra bullet damage perk, kinda pointless in HC. but i agree on cold blooded. and ninja if you are playing against a bunch of nubs with hearbeat sensors.

Do the heartbeat sensors even work?? I had mine on and didn't get a hit, then switched to a different class. Thought I was wasting my time with it..

[Sean]

Ninja perk makes you invis to heartbeat sensors.

[Tmall]

Ninja perk makes you invis to heartbeat sensors.

I have it. I just thought it was odd that everybody else on the map would too. So, I assumed it didn't work in HC..

[Sean]

Oh, Iunno about HC. I'm still trying to just get out of suck on regular :willy:

[Trip]

only thing i can add to this is they usually use a set time circuit so you dont have to manually turn yourself back on

yeah, the ones they sell are just push button timers. If you want to make it yourself, it's easier to just stick a switch in there.

[Sixxxxer]

there isint a single weapon in mw2 that takes ''clips'' ;)

Only you would care...

Weirdo

[Dave]

Do the heartbeat sensors even work?? I had mine on and didn't get a hit, then switched to a different class. Thought I was wasting my time with it..

its range is also really short. Likeless than 50 meters

[Sixxxxer]

why run a silencer in HC? i don't see the point. there is no minimap that gives away your position. other weapon add ons are much more useful in HC, IMO. same with the extra bullet damage perk, kinda pointless in HC. but i agree on cold blooded. and ninja if you are playing against a bunch of nubs with hearbeat sensors.


Well...Since you asked

Hardline makes it 2 kills to get a UAV...I can pop off about 10 UAV's in a single game if Im doing decent and for about half the match It's safe to say My team and I would have Radar...Soooooooo

I run Silenced Bc Im sure there's someone else out there like me who has this mindset (and I have infact played and heard the Other teams UAV on Constantly) and when you run a silencer you dont give away your position...so if I pop someone with there UAV up I have a better shot at NOT giving away my position to the opposing team therefore making me Invisible on radar...And if you run Cold blooded And Silenced then your pretty much invisible to radar/Killstreak Rewards and can run around and Put CLIPS into people and run house.

And with it being Hardcore the silencer doesn't take away to much power from the gun you can still kill people effectively.

My Main Hardcore Class is Tar 21 Silenced Holographic Scope M1014 Shotty With the Red Dot, I was running it silenced but it completely KILLS the power of that Gun So I Run it without Bling Pro Perk Cold Blooded and Commando Pro With Semtex Stun and Final Stand. With UAV Predator Missile and Chopper Gunner As my Kill streaks.

Since you Asked ;)

[Dave]

Only you would care...

Weirdo

ill revise my statement. The m21ebr ought to have a guide rail for a clip. Not that you could ever find one, the .44 mag might be using one too. i'll have to watch the animations again. might just be a speedloader

[AquaPython]

i see what you mean, but you are basically trying to play HC as regular, with UAV up at all times.
silencing doesn't change the power - damage - of the gun, just the range.

i find it funny how now i am seeing so many people running around with commando pro, lightweight and the other unlimited sprint perk now, when i was the only one that did that the first week. in normal mode it is total bullshit, because it takes so many bullets to stop them.

[Tmall]

Ever since I've unlocked the acr, my kills have gone up a lot..

[Dave]

Ever since I've unlocked the acr, my kills have gone up a lot..

the rounds are so weak, scar or the m4 work better

[AquaPython]

weak rounds don't matter in HC ! ACR is a sick BR - first one i capped.

the SCAR is nice, but it has a decent kick, and too small "Clips"
i don't think it is worth running with extended mags on any gun...

[Dave]

"Clips"


dont be a douche.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1716/21or3ok.jpg

by "capped" you mean finished all challenges? all skins? or all attachments?

[Tmall]

I can actually hit things with the acr.

The scar is all over the place. And the m4 does less damage than the m16 which I've stopped using for acr. My accuracy has gone up, which is important.

[Dave]

I can actually hit things with the acr.

The scar is all over the place. And the m4 does less damage than the m16 which I've stopped using for acr. My accuracy has gone up, which is important.

the scars sights may move but the impacts really dont move much. Short bursts anyway

[AquaPython]

haha that was voluntary douchebaggery to get under your skin, guy.
all attachments for the title. i think i was at blue tiger at that point. trying to finish off the Scar and the EBR sniper (both 9 bullet pen. shots left to go on each.) before i prestige.

[Kaneman]

I won 9 Domination matches in a row last night and was on top for most of those. I even led the team to a 200 to 48 victory. It was glorious.

My accuracy is up to 22% now too, woohoo!

[Sean]

Where are you getting these stats? I can't wait to see how bad mine are :lol:

[Dave]

i think that one is a pet peeve all throughout the various combat arms. in any case i was just trying to help you two not sound like morons. k?

[Dave]

Where are you getting these stats? I can't wait to see how bad mine are :lol:

barracks>leaderboards>accuracy

[Tmall]

My accuracy is 14.5.. I don't understand why it is so low.

[AquaPython]

i feel that if you equip the riot shield, any K/D stats should be cancelled, or weighted differently.

[Dave]

My accuracy is 14.5.. I don't understand why it is so low.

ever do any time with the lmgs?

[Apoc]

My accuracy is 14.5.. I don't understand why it is so low.

You gotta remember man, half the kids you end up playing against, have the reflexes of coked out fighter pilots. Their ability to move and aim perfectly at the same time is sometimes astounding :lol:

[Dave]

You gotta remember man, half the kids you end up playing against, have the reflexes of coked out fighter pilots. Their ability to move and aim perfectly at the same time is sometimes astounding :lol:

yep, mine aint bad as im coasting in towards thirty but im starting to have to rely more on superior equipment (faster internet) and better tactics.

[Kaneman]

My accuracy is 14.5.. I don't understand why it is so low.

That's not bad dude, that's about the average of everyone on my friends list. My 22% is the highest on my list by far, even compared with guys who are clearly better players than me.

i feel that if you equip the riot shield, any K/D stats should be cancelled, or weighted differently.

Agree. If you get the 50 pts for the assist or "crowd control" it should cancel out one death.

[AquaPython]

i like that, also a shield strike from the back should be instant kill like a knife, melee speed should be increased, and or there should be shield add ons, or better shield unlocks.

[Dave]

i like that, also a shield strike from the back should be instant kill like a knife, melee speed should be increased, and or there should be shield add ons, or better shield unlocks.

you ought to at least be able to use a pistol with the shield up, vegas 2 style

[Kaneman]

i like that, also a shield strike from the back should be instant kill like a knife, melee speed should be increased, and or there should be shield add ons, or better shield unlocks.

Those are all pretty good too, they could really expand on it. Have you ever played against a team that works together with shields? We got owned by one the other night, it was hilarious.

Hey, have you guys seen the exploding rounds for the machine guns? Siiiiiiiiick....

[AquaPython]

you ought to at least be able to use a pistol with the shield up, vegas 2 style

whats bullshit is the AI cops in the airport in campaign mode have pistols or other weapons with their shields!

but pistol is the best weapon to use with the riot shield because it has the fastest switch.

[Tmall]

Just hit 50, I don't know if I like the javellin. Might stick with the stinger, the 2 shots are hard to beat.


I've never used lmg's.. Just the assily rifles and launchers.

[Sixxxxer]

i see what you mean, but you are basically trying to play HC as regular, with UAV up at all times.
silencing doesn't change the power - damage - of the gun, just the range.

i find it funny how now i am seeing so many people running around with commando pro, lightweight and the other unlimited sprint perk now, when i was the only one that did that the first week. in normal mode it is total bullshit, because it takes so many bullets to stop them.

Shoot the Intervention Without a Silencer and Then Equip it and Shoot it again...It affects the damage of the gun...At least in the game. And I'm not trying to play it like regular...But if the game allows me to have it where I can have UAV up most of the game then fuck it I'm gonna use it.

And yes the ACR is a kickass gun...In HC...In Regular modes stopping power is a must bc the bullet damaged is weaker..>The SCAR is a GREAT Gun...it just has a small CLIP ;)

[Tmall]

I know what you're saying, but! If I can actually hit the target with the acr, it beats any stronger weapon that I don't get any kills with.

[Sixxxxer]

Oh Def...If you have the Thermal Scope with the ACR its actually pretty Nasty as a Mid to long range Sniper Assault Rifle.

[TYEster]

I hate the SCAR. It's taking forever to finish it's challenge while waiting to unlock the M16.(Im at level 37 I think)

[Tmall]

I bought a new cable and went 19-6 on my first game against a bunch of prestiged players.

I've been averaging high teens low 20's for kills since.

No more lag issues either. Guess I should have looked for the most obvious problem first.