View Full Version : Would you let your son have long hair?
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 10:24 AM
There's a local news story here about a 4 year old who has been in in-school-suspension at his pre-k class for a while now because he has long hair and his parents won't cut it. There's a big hoopla over it, they had a meeting with the school district last night who agreed to let him back into class if he keeps it in a ponytail, and they're still refusing. Now I realize at 4 he's only going along with what his parents want, but it does beg the question...what if your son did want long hair?
Me personally, I'd go to bat for him if that's what he really wanted.
it's on yahoo's front page right now. The kid looks like a douche, especially when they ponytail it.
azoomm
01-12-2010, 10:26 AM
Me personally, I'd go to bat for him if that's what he really wanted.
Yes.
But, that begs the question... what school has that requirement? Is it a private school? If so, and it's part of the requirements to signing up... live by their rules or don't go there. :idk:
I know our school has requirements of hair color, and the default that if it's distracting to the educational experience :blah:
shmike
01-12-2010, 10:27 AM
I don't see any reason why not.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 10:28 AM
it's on yahoo's front page right now. The kid looks like a douche, especially when they ponytail it.
lol, yea it looks fairly horrid when its ponytailed, but not bad when its down. When I first saw the story last night I couldn't figure out if he was a boy or a girl (I had the sound off on the TV, :lol: )
Yes.
But, that begs the question... what school has that requirement? Is it a private school? If so, and it's part of the requirements to signing up... live by their rules or don't go there. :idk:
I know our school has requirements of hair color, and the default that if it's distracting to the educational experience :blah:
It is a public school in Balch Springs, Tx.
Rider
01-12-2010, 10:30 AM
At that age, just cut his fucking hair but by the time they are 10-12 let them do what they want. I told my son he can grow his hair long, color his hair, pierce his ears, get a mohawk.. whatever, but the catch is, he must keep his grades up and stay on the honor roll. Fortunately he doesn't do any of that crap but he can if he wants.
shmike
01-12-2010, 10:30 AM
Yes.
But, that begs the question... what school has that requirement? Is it a private school? If so, and it's part of the requirements to signing up... live by their rules or don't go there. :idk:
I know our school has requirements of hair color, and the default that if it's distracting to the educational experience :blah:
I watched the quick video on Yahoo.
Sounds like a public school.
The kid's hair isn't even very long.
azoomm
01-12-2010, 10:30 AM
It is a public school in Balch Springs, Tx.
:lol: OK - buncha rednecks.
Hippy is kind of the norm here... so, I guess I can't imagine it.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 10:33 AM
At that age, just cut his fucking hair but by the time they are 10-12 let them do what they want. I told my son he can grow his hair long, color his hair, pierce his ears, get a mohawk.. whatever, but the catch is, he must keep his grades up and stay on the honor roll. Fortunately he doesn't do any of that crap but he can if he wants.
I think I'd probably cut it too, in this case its obviously the parent's battle and not the kid's. Up until the point he told me he wanted long hair, then I'd fight for him.
My son had a mohawk before he started Kindergarten (fairly common around here I think). Anyway, we ended up cutting it before he started school because he wanted to. Our schools are just trying to learn emergency Spanish though, they don't have time to fuck with hair-rules.
I might get behind a dress code for parents picking their kids up though. Look people, don't go to your kid's school in pajamas and a snuggie alright?
tommymac
01-12-2010, 10:35 AM
Be kind of hypocritical of me since I have long hair :)
I am all for dress codes.
I think it was a seinfeld episode where he talked about getting an earth dress code where we all just vote on one outfit for everyone to wear. :lol:
I'd be ok with that.
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 10:36 AM
Are others with long hair to adhere to the same standards?
Of course I'd let my child have long hair if they wanted it.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 10:37 AM
Are others with long hair to adhere to the same standards?
Of course I'd let my child have long hair if they wanted it.
And if the school says no?
askmrjesus
01-12-2010, 10:38 AM
Let your freak flag fly.
JC
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 10:49 AM
And if the school says no?
The real issue for me would be whether my son is being held to standards that the rest of his classmates are not. If he were being singled out I would go to bat for him. But if it's a rule that everyone else is content to follow and I knew about it beforehand....:idk:
The real issue for me would be whether my son is being held to standards that the rest of his classmates are not. If he were being singled out I would go to bat for him. But if it's a rule that everyone else is content to follow and I knew about it beforehand....:idk:
from the video on yahoo, the rest of the class is being held to the same standard. They had a chart of types of haircuts not allowed like shaving symbols and words into their heads and shit.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 10:50 AM
The real issue for me would be whether my son is being held to standards that the rest of his classmates are not. If he were being singled out I would go to bat for him. But if it's a rule that everyone else is content to follow and I knew about it beforehand....:idk:
I would only go along with it if all the girls had to cut their hair too. :lol:
My son and ex are all for his having 'long' hair. It's not as long as that kids but it's longer than I think it should be. I would rather it be shorter but it's JUST HAIR! Might as well enjoy having hair outside the norm when you can. Depending on your career choice you may not get to later.
karl_1052
01-12-2010, 10:53 AM
from the video on yahoo, the rest of the class is being held to the same standard. They had a chart of types of haircuts not allowed like shaving symbols and words into their heads and shit.
That makes sense, but suspending a kid because he has longer hair than the rest of the class is assinine.
What happened to individual freedoms(it is a public school), as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others.
I would fight this like a fucking badger.
azoomm
01-12-2010, 10:56 AM
BRAIDS!!! They made the kid get BRAIDS?? What kind of redneck community IS THIS?
They're doing it wrong...
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 10:57 AM
I would only go along with it if all the girls had to cut their hair too. :lol:
Me too! Everyone should be held to the same standard. :idk:
Although...I have to tell you....after being a teacher I would be sending my kid to school with the shortest hair possible or tied back if they wanted it long. Nits/Lice are NASTY!
Rider
01-12-2010, 11:01 AM
BRAIDS!!! They made the kid get BRAIDS?? What kind of redneck community IS THIS?
They're doing it wrong...
Cornrows FTW. :lol
Cornrows FTW. :lol
I think those were on the banned list as well.
tommymac
01-12-2010, 11:06 AM
I think those were on the banned list as well.
as they should be :)
z06boy
01-12-2010, 11:19 AM
At that age I'd probably just cut his hair. When older he could make his own choices as long as he was keeping his grades up and it didn't go against school policies.
His hair doesn't look that bad imho but the ponytail sure does. :wtfru:
Braids and cornrows on him would look pretty goofy too imho. :lol
Kerry_129
01-12-2010, 11:19 AM
That makes sense, but suspending a kid because he has longer hair than the rest of the class is assinine.
What happened to individual freedoms(it is a public school), as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others.
I tend to agree - worry more about educating & less about regulating. If the kid is truly causing a distraction for the rest of the class, I can somewhat understand the objection. But I'd bet money that virtually all the distraction is due to the teacher/admin's response to it, not the other kids. F'd up priorities I think - get back to memorization drills to prep for Big Brother's multiple-guess test! :rolleyes:
BUT - if I were the parent, I'd probably work to avoid the distraction. Not 'make' him cut his hair, but discuss the consequences & encourage a workable compromise.
Be kind of hypocritical of me since I have long hair :)
Hippy! :p
tommymac
01-12-2010, 11:22 AM
I tend to agree - worry more about educating & less about regulating. If the kid is truly causing a distraction for the rest of the class, I can somewhat understand the objection. But I'd bet money that virtually all the distraction is due to the teacher/admin's response to it, not the other kids. F'd up priorities I think - get back to memorization drills to prep for Big Brother's multiple-guess test! :rolleyes:
BUT - if I were the parent, I'd probably work to avoid the distraction. Not 'make' him cut his hair, but discuss the consequences & encourage a workable compromise.
Hippy! :p
do I look like anything resembling a hippy, now lets get serious here :lol:
Kerry_129
01-12-2010, 11:24 AM
My bad.
Head-banging metal-head hooligan! :rockwoot:
Better? :D
tommymac
01-12-2010, 11:26 AM
My bad.
Head-banging metal-head hooligan! :rockwoot:
Better? :D
Much better :rockwoot::rockwoot::rockwoot::rockwoot::rockwoot: :rockwoot:
Cutty72
01-12-2010, 11:50 AM
Looks fine as it was.
Kid looks like a fag with that pony tail.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 11:51 AM
Looks fine as it was.
Kid looks like a fag with that pony tail.
:lol: Agree.
sherri_chickie
01-12-2010, 11:57 AM
I work in a public but Church school and we don't even have rules about hair length. We have a boy in grade 9 that has the longest most beautiful hair ( and I don't like long hair on guys) that he is growing to cut off and raise money for Charity. We do have rules about shoes...lol
I think that some rules are just stupid, but a 4 year old doesn't need long hair, I can't imagine what it would be like to be a boy and have everyone thing you are a girl. Parents need to be parents sometimes and make decisions that may be against what their little kid wants but may save him some pain in the long run. ( like being called a girl, all the time)
As far as a teen goes, as long as he was a good kid, did well in school and was respectful I don't think I would care what color or length his hair was. You gotta pick your battles wisely with those ones.
wildchild
01-12-2010, 12:06 PM
it's nice to see teachers and school administrators still thinking they should be allowed to make your parenting choices for you. what difference would his hair length make to a teaching situation?
as for my kid, yeah he was a wrestler and wanted to look "wild" for a couple matches. he had a rather impressive mohawk for awhile. his coach let him have it for a few weeks, then made him shave it off before regional competitions. i have more important things to worry about then his hair style choices. ( i did like the hawk though) his girlfriend teased the thing up and colored it for one home match. tons of people were taking photos. he had a good time with it.
i will add that i would personally not let my 4 yr old have long hair, but it's the parents choice not the school's.
Tmall
01-12-2010, 12:13 PM
I can't imagine living somewhere that my choices are based on a "need". In this country, "wanting to" is a good enough reason to do anything.
I fail to see how hair effects anything in the schooling system.
There are some militaries who allow it based on a human rights issue..
unknownroad
01-12-2010, 12:14 PM
Much better :rockwoot::rockwoot::rockwoot::rockwoot::rockwoot: :rockwoot:
Represent! :rockwoot:
I think that some rules are just stupid, but a 4 year old doesn't need long hair,
Who are you to say that? :scratch:
As for me, I've had long hair since I started high school (before that my parents wouldn't let me wear it long, at that point they gave up). I'm child-free, but if it were my son I'd be giving them hell to the point where I'd probably be banned/ejected from the school grounds. Civil liberties, even ones that a lot of people would dismiss as trivial, get me wound up like nothing else.
KSGregman
01-12-2010, 12:18 PM
It's just hair...aren't there more important things to worry about in a class room? Like maybe ensuring little Jimmy and little Jane can actually learn to THINK rather than memorize?
the chi
01-12-2010, 12:43 PM
do I look like anything resembling a hippy, now lets get serious here :lol:
Honestly? Throw some socks and sandals on ya, maybe a colorful robe looking thing and VOILA, HIPPY! :lol:
This stuff is so out of control. Unless the childs hair is an actual issue whats the problem?
Homeslice
01-12-2010, 01:26 PM
Me too! Everyone should be held to the same standard. :idk:
Men and women's hair standards are different in the military, so why shouldn't they be in public schools :idk:
Just playing devils advocate here.
unknownroad
01-12-2010, 01:30 PM
Men and women's hair standards are different in the military, so why shouldn't they be in public schools :idk:
Just playing devils advocate here.
You suck at it redflip
tommymac
01-12-2010, 01:30 PM
Honestly? Throw some socks and sandals on ya, maybe a colorful robe looking thing and VOILA, HIPPY! :lol:
This stuff is so out of control. Unless the childs hair is an actual issue whats the problem?
I will start a body count of you mo fos before I allow that to happen.
Now I need to go listen to some slayer to help soothe my soul :rockwoot::rockwoot:
I will start a body count of you mo fos before I allow that to happen.
Now I need to go listen to some slayer to help soothe my soul :rockwoot::rockwoot:
I am glad you aren't a ginger, because a lot of us would be dead from the last rally.
karl_1052
01-12-2010, 01:55 PM
Men and women's hair standards are different in the military, so why shouldn't they be in public schools :idk:
Just playing devils advocate here.
So you are comparing the military to a grade level public school?
You fail worse than I did in the banned substance thread.
:lol:
CasterTroy
01-12-2010, 01:55 PM
I'd go to bat for him if that's what he really wanted.
Not picking on YOU josh...this is a general question to everyone......
Kids want A LOT of things that aren't productive
If he ONLY wanted to eat chocolate at meals...would you support him?
If he didn't want to go to school....would you support THAT?
Parenting means you have to manage the good AND the bad, as well as the REQUIRED. School is required. A balanced meal is required. Following rules are required. Even if you don't agree with them. And even if they're stupid and require conformity to some standard someone else set.
Fitting in today is hard ENOUGH when you're relatively normal looking....much less when you decide to be SO damn different that you're singled out by an entire school system.
Let him save the "different is good" for when he's 18, and can make ALL of his decisions himself. For now....go with the flow and get a damn education!
Later in life he won't be complaining about how he failed as a person because his mom let him wear his hair long when he was a stupid kid and all his classmates called him susie and wanted him to bake them a pie.
Rider
01-12-2010, 02:00 PM
Not picking on YOU josh...this is a general question to everyone......
Kids want A LOT of things that aren't productive
If he ONLY wanted to eat chocolate at meals...would you support him?
If he didn't want to go to school....would you support THAT?
Parenting means you have to manage the good AND the bad, as well as the REQUIRED. School is required. A balanced meal is required. Following rules are required. Even if you don't agree with them. And even if they're stupid and require conformity to some standard someone else set.
Fitting in today is hard ENOUGH when you're relatively normal looking....much less when you decide to be SO damn different that you're singled out by an entire school system.
Let him save the "different is good" for when he's 18, and can make ALL of his decisions himself. For now....go with the flow and get a damn education!
Who says having long hair will give you a bad education? Cant you have both long hair and a good education? If your son was getting straight A's in school you'd let your son grow his hair to down to his ass.
Who says having long hair will give you a bad education? Cant you have both long hair and a good education? If your son was getting straight A's in school you'd let your son grow his hair to down to his ass.
I think he is talking more about the shit the kid will get for looking like a bitch. That can fuck with a very young kid like this case.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 02:12 PM
Not picking on YOU josh...this is a general question to everyone......
Kids want A LOT of things that aren't productive
If he ONLY wanted to eat chocolate at meals...would you support him?
No, because that is harmful to his health and education.
If he didn't want to go to school....would you support THAT?
No, reading is fundamental.
Parenting means you have to manage the good AND the bad, as well as the REQUIRED. School is required. A balanced meal is required. Following rules are required. Even if you don't agree with them. And even if they're stupid and require conformity to some standard someone else set.
Fitting in today is hard ENOUGH when you're relatively normal looking....much less when you decide to be SO damn different that you're singled out by an entire school system.
Let him save the "different is good" for when he's 18, and can make ALL of his decisions himself. For now....go with the flow and get a damn education!
I disagree with this. I feel a child's experiences shape part of who they will become as adults. If the child is taught to conform and blindly follow rules then that's what they will likely do. They will become sheeple. I prefer for my kids to be independent and reasonable thinkers. In this particular case I don't consider longer than average hair to be SO damn different, I just truly believe the administrators are ignorant, inbred, rednecks who hate the parents for their piercings and tattoos and are making mountains of mole hills.
Homeslice
01-12-2010, 02:16 PM
So you are comparing the military to a grade level public school?
You fail worse than I did in the banned substance thread.
:lol:
I'm basing it on the apparent belief that just because an organization is public/government-run, everyone within it should be treated equal.
Also, the kid looks like a wannabe Hanson brother. FAIL :lol:
Although, the other side is, school adminstrators can eat a dick, the vast majority of them are uptight idiots who are only concerned with protecting themselves from lawsuits.
I disagree with this. I feel a child's experiences shape part of who they will become as adults. If the child is taught to conform and blindly follow rules then that's what they will likely do. They will become sheeple. I prefer for my kids to be independent and reasonable thinkers. In this particular case I don't consider longer than average hair to be SO damn different, I just truly believe the administrators are ignorant, inbred, rednecks who hate the parents for their piercings and tattoos and are making mountains of mole hills.
You need to conform to some extent. Making your child an outsider or letting your very young child make choices that will make them an outsider with their peers isn't always in the best interest. Kids need to learn to be social and fitting in is part of that.
Rider
01-12-2010, 02:30 PM
You need to conform to some extent. Making your child an outsider or letting your very young child make choices that will make them an outsider with their peers isn't always in the best interest. Kids need to learn to be social and fitting in is part of that.
If they aren't going to fit in, then they aren't going to fit in because they LOOK normal. Personality plays a larger part than looks. If a kids looks different but has ability to not let teasing bug him then kids will stop teasing. If you let them see it bugs you, they will never stop.
tommymac
01-12-2010, 02:31 PM
You need to conform to some extent. Making your child an outsider or letting your very young child make choices that will make them an outsider with their peers isn't always in the best interest. Kids need to learn to be social and fitting in is part of that.
I can see as he gets a little older if he wants to grow his hair but at age 4 I think thats a bit early.
If they aren't going to fit in, then they aren't going to fit in because they LOOK normal. Personality plays a larger part than looks. If a kids looks different but has ability to not let teasing bug him then kids will stop teasing. If you let them see it bugs you, they will never stop.
I disagree, looks can play an issue.
tommymac
01-12-2010, 02:34 PM
I disagree, looks can play an issue.
I agree esp at that age, kids can be very mean and will ostracize anyone who is different.
Rider
01-12-2010, 02:37 PM
I disagree, looks can play an issue.
Kids pick on you for many reasons, not just looks. Your name, the car your parents drive, the food you eat, if you are smart or dumb, don't play sports well...Kids are mean and will tease you for any reason. You just have to have to right attitude to not let anything bug you and they will stop.
I know this because I was the kid that picked on everyone. If I found a weakness, I exploited it.
shmike
01-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Kids pick on you for many reasons, not just looks. Your name, the car your parents drive, the food you eat, if you are smart or dumb, don't play sports well...Kids are mean and will tease you for any reason. You just have to have to right attitude to not let anything bug you and they will stop.
I know this because I was the kid that picked on everyone. If I found a weakness, I exploited it.
Then how can you argue against what Trip is saying? :scratch:
If the kid is different, he will get picked on.
Long hair is different.
defector
01-12-2010, 02:39 PM
I agree esp at any age, kids can be very mean and will ostracize anyone who is different.
Fixed.
My kid has had long hair for the past 3 years. It was a choice he made based on being able to keep it groomed. If he can't keep it groomed, he can't keep it. (He also isn't 4 years old).
I know this because I was the kid that picked on everyone. If I found a weakness, I exploited it.
I know, that's why you don't want to let your child have a retarded weakness like his girly hair. When he gets old enough to actually know wtf is going on, sure let him grow his hair back. At 4, I doubt the kid will even remember wtf is going on much less that his retarded mom didn't want to cut his hair. If the child is made an outsider because of something stupid like his hair, that may stay with him through school.
Rider
01-12-2010, 02:42 PM
Then how can you argue against what Trip is saying? :scratch:
If the kid is different, he will get picked on.
Long hair is different.
It's just long hair. You see people in public all the time with long hair. It's not that different. Now on a young kid long hair isn't common but I don't see it having a negative affect unless the kids was a complete dork and in preschool kids don't know any better.
Rider
01-12-2010, 02:44 PM
I know, that's why you don't want to let your child have a retarded weakness like his girly hair. When he gets old enough to actually know wtf is going on, sure let him grow his hair back. At 4, I doubt the kid will even remember wtf is going on much less that his retarded mom didn't want to cut his hair. If the child is made an outsider because of something stupid like his hair, that may stay with him through school.
Yeah that's why I said at that age I'd cut the kids hair. But when they get older, let them do what they want.
tommymac
01-12-2010, 02:46 PM
Fixed.
My kid has had long hair for the past 3 years. It was a choice he made based on being able to keep it groomed. If he can't keep it groomed, he can't keep it. (He also isn't 4 years old).
True but once you get into Jr and high school its more your choice/identity to look a certain way or be part of whatever clique so thats a little different than a bunch of early grade school kids who dont understand that people can be different and its ok.
CasterTroy
01-12-2010, 02:57 PM
I prefer for my kids to be independent and reasonable thinkers.
I'm all for that....and to ME that means they don't know how you vote, or that you're bias against asian women drivers...rather they find out for themselves them bitches can't drive :idk:
In this particular case I don't consider longer than average hair to be SO damn different, I just truly believe the administrators are ignorant, inbred, rednecks who hate the parents for their piercings and tattoos and are making mountains of mole hills.
see below
You need to conform to some extent. Making your child an outsider or letting your very young child make choices that will make them an outsider with their peers isn't always in the best interest. Kids need to learn to be social and fitting in is part of that.
100%
I agree esp at that age, kids can be very mean and will ostracize anyone who is different.
Kids are the meanest and harshest critics ever
I know this because I was the kid that picked on everyone. If I found a weakness, I exploited it.
Insecurity tends to do that to a kid
Avatard
01-12-2010, 03:06 PM
I wouldn't want my kid in a fucking school with fucking assholes who care more about his fucking hair than his fucking education.
Fuck them, kid...wear your fucking hair whatever way you want, but PLEASE, let's get the fuck out of here, and go in search of people who should actually be teaching kids.
unknownroad
01-12-2010, 03:13 PM
Following rules are required. Even if you don't agree with them. And even if they're stupid and require conformity to some standard someone else set.
We have a fundamental disagreement on this :idk: I've always questioned rules that I believed were ignorant, predatory, or arbitrary and pointless. While it's critical to always weigh the stakes at hand before acting, I would never tell anyone, much less a child I was responsible for, that authority automatically confers "right". You can't learn anything about human history and still believe that.
Rider
01-12-2010, 03:14 PM
Insecurity tends to do that to a kid
Nah, nothing insecure about it. I'm just a complete prick who doesn't care about other peoples feelings outside of my friends and family.
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 03:24 PM
I wouldn't want my kid in a fucking school with fucking assholes who care more about his fucking hair than his fucking education.
Fuck them, kid...wear your fucking hair whatever way you want, but PLEASE, let's get the fuck out of here, and go in search of people who should actually be teaching kids.
This.
The kid getting made fun of...being picked on...not the real issue here.
Why is THIS KID asked to conform to a rule the seems innane. :?:
Why is THIS KID asked to conform to a rule the seems innane. :?:
To prepare him for life.
CasterTroy
01-12-2010, 03:30 PM
We have a fundamental disagreement on this :idk: I've always questioned rules that I believed were ignorant, predatory, or arbitrary and pointless. While it's critical to always weigh the stakes at hand before acting, I would never tell anyone, much less a child I was responsible for, that authority automatically confers "right". You can't learn anything about human history and still believe that.
That’s my son. He questions everything and everyone. Especially if he thinks they're full of shit. It's his nature. that, AND He would argue with a telephone pole if he thought it was wrong.
I don't think we have a fundamental disagreement as much as we're simply natured differently.
I prefer to respectfully hear a blowhard out...let them fully expel their rant and fulfill their intended purpose...then disregard as opposed to argue. It's not worth my time or effort.
Avatard
01-12-2010, 03:34 PM
To prepare him for life.
Again, I'd say "fuck these clowns, let's go find someone who should be teaching kids", and avoid the fucking morons. In life, I side-step fucking morons all the time, and I think it would even be a great teaching opportunity.
Rider
01-12-2010, 03:37 PM
To prepare him for life.
Yeah but then you are teaching them to become a conformist with no individuality. Another sheep if you will.
Again, I'd say "fuck these clowns, let's go find someone who should be teaching kids", and avoid the fucking morons. In life, I side-step fucking morons all the time, and I think it would even be a great teaching opportunity.
watch the video on this, his parent isn't exactly Einstein.
CasterTroy
01-12-2010, 03:39 PM
Again, I'd say "fuck these clowns, let's go find someone who should be teaching kids", and avoid the fucking morons. In life, I side-step fucking morons all the time, and I think it would even be a great teaching opportunity.
How’s that worked for you so far?
Not to be a prick, but you've not had the most rosie path ever taken man.
I totally agree that stupid, close-minded, ignorant people should be avoided at all cost...but you CAN'T. Avoidance is not a solution...it's delaying the inevitable. You have to DEAL with the issues and work WITH the ignorant. The opportunity to avoid them won't always BE there.
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 03:42 PM
To prepare him for life.
You're missing my point and I haven't really had the questions answered either by the news story I read or anyone in this thread. Is he being asked to conform to something that others are not? Are girls allowed to wear their hair down or do the girls have to tie thier's back?
sherri_chickie
01-12-2010, 03:46 PM
I think people need to pick their battles. Hair length is not something to get worked up over, either parents or administrators. I had to wear pantyhose teaching in Aldine.. did it make me a better teacher? NO! Stupid arbitrary rules. Rules against cutting certain words in hair do make sense if they can be gang related. There are a lot of worse things to fight over when it comes to education.. Bullying, actually being taught, is my kid slipping through the cracks because the classes are overcrowded, what is my kid being taught, etc. Save the fights for the important matters.
Little kids can be damaged by events and teasing early in life, without a doubt, and they do remember it if traumatic enough. Kids can be very cruel, they catch onto differences, or insecurities and pick at them for all they are worth... I don't think you should set your kid up for that.. kinda like naming a boy " SUE" ..
Avatard
01-12-2010, 03:58 PM
How’s that worked for you so far?
Not to be a prick, but you've not had the most rosie path ever taken man.
I totally agree that stupid, close-minded, ignorant people should be avoided at all cost...but you CAN'T. Avoidance is not a solution...it's delaying the inevitable. You have to DEAL with the issues and work WITH the ignorant. The opportunity to avoid them won't always BE there.
Hey, my kid learned to side-step fucktards. She bailed on HS a year early, tested, got her degree, and flipped off the assclowns. Bravo, kiddo.
Stupid people are easy to side-step, because they're usually slow-moving.
Life has a way of working itself out.
:shrug:
Avatard
01-12-2010, 04:01 PM
You have to DEAL with the issues and work WITH the ignorant. The opportunity to avoid them won't always BE there.
That often requires educating the ignorant...and frankly, that's a lot of heavy lifting.
You're missing my point and I haven't really had the questions answered either by the news story I read or anyone in this thread. Is he being asked to conform to something that others are not? Are girls allowed to wear their hair down or do the girls have to tie thier's back?
Mine was a joke, that is all.
I guess girls are allowed to have long hair. I don't know. Go to Texas and find out. I guess if another boy was to have long hair, they would do this to him as well. They had a list of hair rules they showed in the video. See if you can find it.
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 04:10 PM
Fair enough. Looking for the video right now.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 04:35 PM
You need to conform to some extent. Making your child an outsider or letting your very young child make choices that will make them an outsider with their peers isn't always in the best interest. Kids need to learn to be social and fitting in is part of that.
Well again, in this case I don't think the child has anything to do with it. This is his parent's vs. the school district. He might like his long hair, but that would largely be because of his parents encouragement.
I understand fitting in with society...but not wearing long hair isn't part of that to me and as a parent I feel it is my right to do whatever I want to my kid's hair.
If they aren't going to fit in, then they aren't going to fit in because they LOOK normal. Personality plays a larger part than looks. If a kids looks different but has ability to not let teasing bug him then kids will stop teasing. If you let them see it bugs you, they will never stop.
Agree that personality has more to do with fitting in than looks alone. Yes, kids will make fun of those that are funny looking...but socially awkward kids have it much worse by comparison. In this case the school officials are doing much more harm to the child than any of his classmates...who likely think nothing of his hair.
Fair enough. Looking for the video right now.
Yea, I'm lookin for a video too, in my inbox. Make it happen.
azoomm
01-12-2010, 04:50 PM
You're missing my point and I haven't really had the questions answered either by the news story I read or anyone in this thread. Is he being asked to conform to something that others are not? Are girls allowed to wear their hair down or do the girls have to tie thier's back?
There is nothing said about the girls vs the boys. I'd imagine there isn't anything saying long hair on girls isn't allowed.
Did you suddenly go femininazi? OK - so you're going to read that and freak out, please don't. I just don't recall you ever getting on that pedistal. And, fair has nothing to do with this. "Fair" is a hippy thing - our society has different rules from time to time for different genders. They do NOT always make sense... and I do not always agree with them.
Kaneman
01-12-2010, 04:53 PM
Did you suddenly go femininazi? OK - so you're going to read that and freak out, please don't. I just don't recall you ever getting on that pedistal. And, fair has nothing to do with this. "Fair" is a hippy thing - our society has different rules from time to time for different genders. They do NOT always make sense... and I do not always agree with them.
I've been keeping her under a lot of pressure. Giggidy.
askmrjesus
01-12-2010, 04:54 PM
Catfight!!!!
JC
Homeslice
01-12-2010, 05:02 PM
A 4-year old kid isn't going to care whether or not his hair is cut, so just do it. A few years later if he wants to make an issue out of it, let him, but right now he doesn't know WTF he's doing.
t-homo
01-12-2010, 05:08 PM
Catfight!!!!
JC
And its not just the girls cat fighting.
My 9 year old has pink hair, she got straight A's 2 report cards in a row (up from C's last year) and we offered her a big present as a reward for doing good and she wanted pink hair so we compromised and she got pink bangs. Her teacher sent home a note that she thought it was cute, and a few of her friends have already asked their parents if they can have pink hair because Quinns parents let her do it.
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs238.snc3/22576_235375707395_652142395_3719658_5707286_n.jpg
I'll try and get a better picture later
Avatard
01-12-2010, 05:27 PM
I always promoted the starting of trends vs. the following of them, myself, as a parent.
Closedmindedness FTL.
CrazyKell
01-12-2010, 05:39 PM
There is nothing said about the girls vs the boys. I'd imagine there isn't anything saying long hair on girls isn't allowed.
Did you suddenly go femininazi? OK - so you're going to read that and freak out, please don't. I just don't recall you ever getting on that pedistal. And, fair has nothing to do with this. "Fair" is a hippy thing - our society has different rules from time to time for different genders. They do NOT always make sense... and I do not always agree with them.
I've always been a feminazi! :lmao:
I was just trying to find some more "depth" to the rule. Just curious what the administrator's stance was.
Amorok
01-12-2010, 08:24 PM
My kid has long hair. I don't have time to cut it and I'm not wasting the money to cut it. Schools can lick my nuts, but I don't think it'll be an issue here, who knows where we live next but I'll burn that bridge when I cross it.
RACER X
01-12-2010, 11:27 PM
assimilate.
askmrjesus
01-12-2010, 11:55 PM
assimilate.
Resistance is futile.
JC
wildchild
01-13-2010, 08:07 AM
this way to the showers.
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