is pr0n still innocent if...

[itgirl]

...you kinda know the person in the pics you are viewing? perhaps not personally, but maybe via internet forum/friendly acquaintance or such? just curious where one draws the line. one person's playmate is another person's wife/sister/mother...etc.

[Cutty72]

Sure why not?
I'd say as long as it's not like your best friends gf/wife or something.

[Tmall]

I can't believe nobody has asked.. Pics?

[itgirl]

my husband has no problem viewing naked women but seems to have an issue if the pics are of myself for others' viewing pleasure. sounds like a double-standard. am i wrong? it's not like there is any physical intimacy taking place. i don't get it.

[Flexin]

my husband has no problem viewing naked women but seems to have an issue if the pics are of myself for others' viewing pleasure. sounds like a double-standard. am i wrong?

Yes it is. Double-standards are wrong. Showing the pics will correct this.

James

Did he take the pics?

James

[Cutty72]

my husband has no problem viewing naked women but seems to have an issue if the pics are of myself for others' viewing pleasure. sounds like a double-standard. am i wrong? it's not like there is any physical intimacy taking place. i don't get it.

As long as those "others" aren't people that you or him deal with on a daily basis I don't see real problems with it.
Now if the pics were going to your coworkers or his friends etc, then I could see his hesitation.

[itgirl]

Yes it is. Double-standards are wrong. Showing the pics will correct this.

James

Did he take the pics?

James

:lol: nope, i took the pics.

As long as those "others" aren't people that you or him deal with on a daily basis I don't see real problems with it.
Now if the pics were going to your coworkers or his friends etc, then I could see his hesitation.

it's nobody that he knows or sees.

[Apoc]

send me the pics, and I will decide...

[neebelung]

Porn is anonymous. Therefore there's no personal feelings involved - it's purely for gratification on a carnal level, free of emotion. If you know the people in the pics on some level, then it removes that anonymity and takes it to a more personal level, which kinda crosses a line.

[Tmall]

my husband has no problem viewing naked women but seems to have an issue if the pics are of myself for others' viewing pleasure. sounds like a double-standard. am i wrong? it's not like there is any physical intimacy taking place. i don't get it.

Obviously those pictures are of single women, or of women who's husband's do not care..


I don't see that as a double standard at all.

[neebelung]

Obviously those pictures are of single women, or of women who's husband's do not care..


I don't see that as a double standard at all.

I agree.

Now I'm assuming you mean he's viewing pics of people he doesn't know, and NOT let's say the next door neighbor, or your kid's teacher. :lol: THAT would be a double standard, IMO, because the anonymity is removed.

[Tmall]

I agree.

Now I'm assuming you mean he's viewing pics of people he doesn't know, and NOT let's say the next door neighbor, or your kid's teacher. :lol: THAT would be a double standard, IMO, because the anonymity is removed.

I agree with this as well to an extent. If I happen to get pics of my hot neighbour through email(say leaked by a bf), I'll "use" em and likely show my gf. If my hot neighbour directly sends me pics? I'm in deep trouble and should probably hide the knives..

[neebelung]

I agree with this as well to an extent. If I happen to get pics of my hot neighbour through email(say leaked by a bf), I'll "use" em and likely show my gf. If my hot neighbour directly sends me pics? I'm in deep trouble and should probably hide the knives..

:lol

[EpyonXero]

I definitely wouldnt want my wife sending pics to people other than me. I also wouldnt be surprised if she got mad at me for having someone else send me pics.

[Amber Lamps]

yea my ex kept sending me pics... I thought it was funny, my gf...not so much.

Kim, I know that you are feeling good about the way you look and I wholeheartedly agree that you are looking scrumptious. I personally wouldn't mind all that much, of course, I've let GFs blow my friends at parties... You're married and have to take his feelings into account regardless if you agree with him or not. The first thing you learn in "man school" is that feelings don't have to make sense.

[Trip]

I've let GFs blow my friends at parties...

I've hit my knowing too much about tigger limit for today.

[Amber Lamps]

I've hit my knowing too much about tigger limit for today.

Yea we used to be pretty wild....

[Dave]

yea my ex kept sending me pics... I thought it was funny, my gf...not so much.

Kim, I know that you are feeling good about the way you look and I wholeheartedly agree that you are looking scrumptious. I personally wouldn't mind all that much, of course, I've let GFs blow my friends at parties... You're married and have to take his feelings into account regardless if you agree with him or not. The first thing you learn in "man school" is that feelings don't have to make sense.

ot: when i told tl about the rally, she asked who all was going and when i got to tigger she said "isint that the guy who wanted to switch girlfriends?" "yeah, he said he thought you could take more of a pounding than his" "did he? now ive got even more reason to start going to the gym again. i'll give him a "pounding"" :lmao:

[Amber Lamps]

ot: when i told tl about the rally, she asked who all was going and when i got to tigger she said "isint that the guy who wanted to switch girlfriends?" "yeah, he said he thought you could take more of a pounding than his" "did he? now ive got even more reason to start going to the gym again. i'll give him a "pounding"" :lmao:


Cool! Just when I thought that I had as much reason to go to the rally as possible...

[lauralynne]

If it bothers your husband, it's an issue. It's not about what other people think is right or wrong. Sorry, but if he objects to you showing your naughties to other people, he has every right. He doesn't own you, but his feelings should be one of your primary considerations. Put the shoe on the other foot.

[derf]

This thread is way full of win.

I think the consensus is that the pictures are private between you and your husband unless he doesn't mind. If you chose to send them out then that is on you and either you take into consideration what his feelings are or at least be prepared to deal with his feelings and the ramifications later.

However, to make a real judgement call we need to see the pictures.

[Dave]

Cool! Just when I thought that I had as much reason to go to the rally as possible...

if it was me id wear ppe that could stop knives :lol:

[smileyman]

If you want to share it fine. But if your spouse has issue with it there will be problems. My wife wouldnt want me looking at any woman naked, acquiantance or not. And she wouldnt want me sharing pics of myself to anyone. She considers it her property.

That said wanna swap?

[neebelung]

However, to make a real judgement call we need to see the pictures.

:lol: THIS!

[pauldun170]

Great thread
:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

If it bothers your husband, it's an issue. It's not about what other people think is right or wrong. Sorry, but if he objects to you showing your naughties to other people, he has every right. He doesn't own you, but his feelings should be one of your primary considerations. Put the shoe on the other foot.

Quite right, but even if you wouldn't care if he did it (shoe other foot), you still should respect his wishes on the matter. Trust me, there is no one on this forum that would love to have more pics of your tatas but not at the expense of your marriage.

[derf]

Quite right, but even if you wouldn't care if he did it (shoe other foot), you still should respect his wishes on the matter. Trust me, there is no one on this forum that would love to have more pics of your tatas but not at the expense of your marriage.

Again WE need pictures to truly make a judgement call, then we can decide if we should see them or not.


Back on the other board there was a section where folks posted nekkid pictures of themselfs, I miss that.

[azoomm]

Quite right, but even if you wouldn't care if he did it (shoe other foot), you still should respect his wishes on the matter. Trust me, there is no one on this forum that would love to have more pics of your tatas but not at the expense of your marriage.

Right.

The definition to the rest of the world doesn't matter. What matters is your definition between each other.

[2up]

If it bothers your husband, it's an issue. It's not about what other people think is right or wrong. Sorry, but if he objects to you showing your naughties to other people, he has every right. He doesn't own you, but his feelings should be one of your primary considerations. Put the shoe on the other foot.

Couldn't agree more! I think this is one of those things that should be discussed before entering a serious relationship. Some men/women don't mind if their partners so this sort of thing, others do.

[Amber Lamps]

Couldn't agree more! I think this is one of those things that should be discussed before entering a serious relationship. Some men/women don't mind if their partners so this sort of thing, others do.

Hell, it sometimes even varies between different partners. Some girls I care, some I don't.

[Dave]

we need a new hand boob contest

[Amber Lamps]

we need a new hand boob contest

I think we should have a contest and have a few of us be judges. The girls PM us naked pics and we announce the winner!

[neebelung]

Right.

The definition to the rest of the world doesn't matter. What matters is your definition between each other.

Eggzackery.

[2up]

Hell, it sometimes even varies between different partners. Some girls I care, some I don't.

No offense but, if you used to let your girls blow friends at parties, your standards aren't exactly run of the mill. Seriously dude, after that would you kiss your girl and think "oh hey wow, my buddy must be eating a lot of pineapple lately..."

[azoomm]

No offense but, if you used to let your girls blow friends at parties, your standards aren't exactly run of the mill. Seriously dude, after that would you kiss your girl and think "oh hey wow, my buddy must be eating a lot of pineapple lately..."

OMG :rofl:

[derf]

Tigger, you be my hero. i wanna be you when i get old.

[smileyman]

Het Tigger, I had mandarin oranges just this morning. When's the next get together???

[Cutty72]

we need a new hand boob contest

The term is hand bra, but agreed either way.

I don't get nearly enough boob action over here...

[Fleck750]

No offense but, if you used to let your girls blow friends at parties, your standards aren't exactly run of the mill. Seriously dude, after that would you kiss your girl and think "oh hey wow, my buddy must be eating a lot of pineapple lately..."
Best post yet. :lmao:

[Captain Morgan]

My manager's live-in girlfriend is a stripper. I feel weird getting lap dances from her when we all go out to the club. But she's the hottest stripper in the club...

[askmrjesus]

No offense but, if you used to let your girls blow friends at parties, your standards aren't exactly run of the mill. Seriously dude, after that would you kiss your girl and think "oh hey wow, my buddy must be eating a lot of pineapple lately..."

:lol:

If you're letting your girlfriend blow other guys, you're a dick sucker by proxy.

JC

[Amber Lamps]

No offense but, if you used to let your girls blow friends at parties, your standards aren't exactly run of the mill. Seriously dude, after that would you kiss your girl and think "oh hey wow, my buddy must be eating a lot of pineapple lately..."


Yea well, if anyone thinks that their so has never sucked another dick before you came along... Besides, that's the situation you run into if you engage in 3 ways... Sorry, I'm not hypocritical enough to have a double standard... I've done a few 2 guys/1 girl 3 ways...and no I don't make direct contact with the other guy but I've kissed a girl after she has kissed someone else before. On the other hand, I won't kiss you if I come in your mouth, much less someone else. I guess I draw the line at saliva.:lol:

[2up]

Tigger, what someone did a year ago (sucking dick or whatnot) is not the same as what someone did a minute ago. Seriously, your girl had some other dudes dick in her mouth and then you kissed her. Did you verify if dude came or not? (And if he didn't, why are you dating her? :lol:) And does it make it ok if he didn't? Yuck!

[Amber Lamps]

:lol:

If you're letting your girlfriend blow other guys, you're a dick sucker by proxy.

JC

Yea well, most of us are, it's just a matter of how long ago it was. Besides, who hasn't kissed their SO the next day after a blow job? Oh does tooth paste wash the "dick sucker-ness" away? Well, if it works the next morning, I guess that it works in 15 minutes...

[derf]

Yea well, most of us are, it's just a matter of how long ago it was. Besides, who hasn't kissed their SO the next day after a blow job? Oh does tooth paste was the "dick sucker-ness" away? Well, if it works the next morning, I guess that it works in 15 minutes...

Good point, ou never know whats stuck between her teeth!

[smileyman]

Back to the topic. When someone works hard to build a body they wanna show it off. I think a beach swim suit shot isnt that kinda porn even topless wouldnt scare me but perhaps if you pictured yourself in 'the act' maybe too far?

[pauldun170]

Tig's a single guy in his 40's....nuff said.

as for itgirl..
Still waiting on pics

[Amber Lamps]

Tigger, what someone did a year ago (sucking dick or whatnot) is not the same as what someone did a minute ago. Seriously, your girl had some other dudes dick in her mouth and then you kissed her. Did you verify if dude came or not? (And if he didn't, why are you dating her? :lol:) And does it make it ok if he didn't? Yuck!

Again, I didn't kiss her right afterward but I certainly kissed her later once she brushed her teeth. I'm sorry but I'm not that sensitive I guess. I've kissed many a girl on the first date, some within 15 minutes of introductions, who's to say that they didn't just blow someone an hour ago? I'm not going to worry about it. I guess that I'm not as homophobic as some of you are.

What really gets me is how a girl will kiss you after you eat her out and it's cool but not the other way around. Tell me that you haven't kissed your SO after he went down town. I've always found the disparity rather strange in all honesty. There's tons of porn where a girl will suck a guy's dick after it's been in another girl's ass and that is considered "HOT" but if a guy kisses a girl after her mouth was on another guys dick for .01 of a second that's "YUCK"...weird...

[neebelung]

Back to the topic. When someone works hard to build a body they wanna show it off. I think a beach swim suit shot isnt that kinda porn even topless wouldnt scare me but perhaps if you pictured yourself in 'the act' maybe too far?

Intent is the difference here.

Posting up pics publicly, because you're proud of (for example) a fitness goal you've reached is (IMO) innocent.

Sending pics privately to someone other than your SO because (for example) your SO isn't fawning over you, so you're seeking attention elsewhere... :shrug: line = crossed.

But again just my opinion... Everyone's relationships and boundaries are different.

[Amber Lamps]

Intent is the difference here.

Posting up pics publicly, because you're proud of (for example) a fitness goal you've reached is (IMO) innocent.

Sending pics privately to someone other than your SO because (for example) your SO isn't fawning over you, so you're seeking attention elsewhere... :shrug: line = crossed.

But again just my opinion... Everyone's relationships and boundaries are different.

Agreed, if you're just looking for attention and leg humping then there's possibly something wrong with your relationship to begin with.

[Fleck750]

Agreed, if you're just looking for attention and leg humping then there's possibly something wrong with your relationship to begin with.

And everything is great in a relationship if the gf is blowing guys in front of you? :lmao:

[Captain Morgan]

And everything is great in a relationship if the gf is blowing guys in front of you? :lmao:

I'm going to have to come to Tigger's defense. A LOT of couples are swingers. A lot of guys like watching "live" porn. Personally, I've never let my g/f mess with another dude, but I've known several guys who were willing to share their g/f or wife. I had no problem with it. Granted, I was on the receiving end, but still.

Also, Tigger didn't say he watched, but even if he did, so what? People like different things.

[neebelung]

I'm going to have to come to Tigger's defense. A LOT of couples are swingers. A lot of guys like watching "live" porn. Personally, I've never let my g/f mess with another dude, but I've known several guys who were willing to share their g/f or wife. I had no problem with it. Granted, I was on the receiving end, but still.

Also, Tigger didn't say he watched, but even if he did, so what? People like different things.

I agree as well. It's not my thing, but swinging works for some couples. As long as all parties involved are on the same page however, I'm not gonna judge.

[Cutty72]

So... are we going to get more handbra pics or no? :idk:

[Adeptus_Minor]

If it bothers your husband, it's an issue. It's not about what other people think is right or wrong. Sorry, but if he objects to you showing your naughties to other people, he has every right. He doesn't own you, but his feelings should be one of your primary considerations. Put the shoe on the other foot.

Agreed.
Now, if it was taken & posted before the current relationship began and it's just "out there" (because we all know nothing can truly be removed from the internet), then :idk:



as for itgirl..
Still waiting on pics

This. :dthumb:

[Captain Morgan]

Oh, and regarding Kim's situation, I think we really need more info. Is this a guy you've known for some time? Is it someone your husband knows? Are you e-mailing these pics to more than one person? Are you just posting pics on the net? Or are you hosting a website where you do webcam shows?

[Mr Lefty]

IMO if you're in a relationship, it's not ok... unless your SO says they're fine with it.

as far as I'm concerned... it shows absolutely no respect...

[itgirl]

Oh, and regarding Kim's situation, I think we really need more info. Is this a guy you've known for some time? Is it someone your husband knows? Are you e-mailing these pics to more than one person? Are you just posting pics on the net? Or are you hosting a website where you do webcam shows?

wow, you're thorough. :lol: no on all accounts.

i used to have real issues with porn. i thought it was just awful and wanted my husband having nothing to do with it. the girls may have been anonymous, but the feeling of betrayal was still the same for me. it was still my husband viewing another person naked. and the more i forbid it the more he wanted it. but now i believe naked chicks are just naked chicks. and whether it's the neighbor viewing them, a guy at work, someone on the internetz etc., it's all about one thing...skin. doesn't matter who's really in the pics. maybe i've just grown into my sexuality slightly with age or maybe i just don't care anymore. i dunno. but porn is porn. that i believe. it's just pictures, after all. and how can anyone say otherwise if they themselves view porn? just my thinking. but like i said, maybe i am just making excuses to condone my actions. i dunno.

[neebelung]

wow, you're thorough. :lol: no on all accounts.

i used to have real issues with porn. i thought it was just awful and wanted my husband having nothing to do with it. the more i forbid it the more he wanted it. but now i believe naked chicks are just naked chicks. and whether it's the neighbor viewing them, a guy at work, someone on the internetz etc., it's all about one thing...skin. doesn't matter who's really in the pics. maybe i've just grown into my sexuality slightly with age or maybe i just don't care anymore. i dunno. but porn is porn. that i believe. it's just pictures, after all. and how can anyone say otherwise if they themselves view porn? just my thinking. but like i said, maybe i am just making excuses to condone my actions. i dunno.

To you, it might be "just pictures," but as has been said repeatedly, your feeling on the matter isn't the only one that counts: your husband's feelings need to be taken into account as well....

[itgirl]

To you, it might be "just pictures," but as has been said repeatedly, your feeling on the matter isn't the only one that counts: your husband's feelings need to be taken into account as well....

yeah, i suppose you're right. i guess i still get bothered by the fact that he never consulted me or my feelings when he took his matters into his own hands, so to speak. i guess that's where my double-standard theory comes from. it appears turnabout isn't really fair play afterall.

[Fleck750]

I agree as well. It's not my thing, but swinging works for some couples. As long as all parties involved are on the same page however, I'm not gonna judge.
Oh, I wasn't judging, just giving him a hard time. Humans are not naturally monogamous. It's very hard to stay with one person for a lifetime. For some the compromises are easier, for others, impossible. Porn helps a lot of relationships work. You see/watch something, get all wound up, and things come to life in the marital bed. For others, seeing your SO humping someone does it for you.

[Captain Morgan]

Oh, and regarding Kim's situation, I think we really need more info. Is this a guy you've known for some time? Is it someone your husband knows? Are you e-mailing these pics to more than one person? Are you just posting pics on the net? Or are you hosting a website where you do webcam shows?

wow, you're thorough. :lol: no on all accounts.

i used to have real issues with porn. i thought it was just awful and wanted my husband having nothing to do with it. the girls may have been anonymous, but the feeling of betrayal was still the same for me. it was still my husband viewing another person naked. and the more i forbid it the more he wanted it. but now i believe naked chicks are just naked chicks. and whether it's the neighbor viewing them, a guy at work, someone on the internetz etc., it's all about one thing...skin. doesn't matter who's really in the pics. maybe i've just grown into my sexuality slightly with age or maybe i just don't care anymore. i dunno. but porn is porn. that i believe. it's just pictures, after all. and how can anyone say otherwise if they themselves view porn? just my thinking. but like i said, maybe i am just making excuses to condone my actions. i dunno.


If I'm reading this correctly, I can see why your husband has an issue with it. If you are only showing these pics to one person, then your hubby thinks there is something going on between you and this other guy. You may think it's completely innocent, but your hubby doesn't. When he was looking at porn and jerkin the gherkin, it was just porn to him. I think you had issue with it because you weren't getting laid as often as you wanted. Yes, he should have taken your feelings into consideration and looked at porn less. Or at least take care of your needs in the bedroom, even if he took care of his own needs while you were gone.

You're sending naked pics to one guy. Are you sending different pics on different days, or did you just show some guy the goods on a random chance and it only happened once? If you've sent this guy naked pics more than once, or you have ongoing converstions with the guy, then there is a real issue here. If you just sent the pics once and have had no further communication with the guy, eh, maybe not a huge deal.

I think it's best if you and the hubby sit down and put it all on the table so each knows the other's feelings.

[neebelung]

yeah, i suppose you're right. i guess i still get bothered by the fact that he never consulted me or my feelings when he took his matters into his own hands, so to speak. i guess that's where my double-standard theory comes from. it appears turnabout isn't really fair play afterall.

You're not comparing apples to apples though.

He looks at porn. Anonymous porn. Women you don't know, nor will you likely ever meet. There's no feeling or emotion involved.

The parallel would be you looking at porn, again of people you don't know.


You're sending out pics of yourself, and he's apparently objecting. If HE was sending out pics of himself, THEN you'd have a double standard.

[Captain Morgan]

You're not comparing apples to apples though.

He looks at porn. Anonymous porn. Women you don't know, nor will you likely ever meet. There's no feeling or emotion involved.

The parallel would be you looking at porn, again of people you don't know.


You're sending out pics of yourself, and he's apparently objecting. If HE was sending out pics of himself, THEN you'd have a double standard.

Agreed

[Amber Lamps]

Aha! Now I get it. Your husband thinks it's okay for him to sit around looking at porn whenever he wants BUT it's not alright for you to post nude pics of yourself. Gotcha!

Nope, he's wrong. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If he wants to be able to look at naked pictures, he has to be tolerant of you posting naked pictures. It's not fair! On the one hand you should respect his feelings but he gets to ignore yours? Wrong!

I will say that since your um, upgrades, I'm sure that your self esteem is higher which has made you more tolerant of porn. Before when you weren't so gifted it hurt because you felt inadequate but now you can look at the pics and say, "Ha mine are nicer!" I'm sure that it's all about self esteem on both sides. Now that you are hotter, he feels less secure. He wouldn't be the first guy whose SO got enhanced and later bolted on him. I bet he notices every leer and hears every comment when you enter a room.

[Amber Lamps]

You're not comparing apples to apples though.

He looks at porn. Anonymous porn. Women you don't know, nor will you likely ever meet. There's no feeling or emotion involved.

The parallel would be you looking at porn, again of people you don't know.


You're sending out pics of yourself, and he's apparently objecting. If HE was sending out pics of himself, THEN you'd have a double standard.

Hmmm... I don't know. When she was smaller it hurt her deeply that he would look at other more endowed women. He ignored that and did what he wanted. Now that she has it going on, it turns her on to have men look at her. Does she really owe it to him to respect his feelings when he doesn't respect hers? I see what you are saying but fair is fair. It gets him off to look at others and it gets her off to be looked at....

[Cutty72]

i used to have real issues with porn. i thought it was just awful and wanted my husband having nothing to do with it. the girls may have been anonymous, but the feeling of betrayal was still the same for me. it was still my husband viewing another person naked. and the more i forbid it the more he wanted it.

This is exactly how my gf thinks. I tell her she has no choice while i'm over here, cause I can't look at her, so therefore I look at whoever I can google :)

[neebelung]

Hmmm... I don't know. When she was smaller it hurt her deeply that he would look at other more endowed women. He ignored that and did what he wanted. Now that she has it going on, it turns her on to have men look at her. Does she really owe it to him to respect his feelings when he doesn't respect hers? I see what you are saying but fair is fair. It gets him off to look at others and it gets her off to be looked at....

I'm not saying that it was right for him to ignore her wishes to not view porn. But "tit for tat" (no pun intended) just isn't a recipe for a healthy marriage. "he did something I didn't like, so now I'm going to do something he doesn't like" doesn't fly.

And you're glossing over the fact that looking at anonymous porn is not at ALL the same thing as sending pics of yourself to someone you (apparently) know.

[Amber Lamps]

I'm not saying that it was right for him to ignore her wishes to not view porn. But "tit for tat" (no pun intended) just isn't a recipe for a healthy marriage. "he did something I didn't like, so now I'm going to do something he doesn't like" doesn't fly.

And you're glossing over the fact that looking at anonymous porn is not at ALL the same thing as sending pics of yourself to someone you (apparently) know.

Yea I know... I'm just helping a friend justify actions that have already happened...unless I miss my guess.

I agree that going forward, there has to be a referendum on porn of any kind in their home and they should focus more on each other.

[neebelung]

wow, you're thorough. :lol: no on all accounts.

i used to have real issues with porn. i thought it was just awful and wanted my husband having nothing to do with it. the girls may have been anonymous, but the feeling of betrayal was still the same for me.

I'm curious how his jerkin to porn felt like betrayal to you, when you openly speak of using your BOB? Aren't they both just a means to an end, a tool to aid in getting yourself off? No conversation, no emotion, just self gratification? :shrug:

[neebelung]

Yea I know... I'm just helping a friend justify actions that have already happened...unless I miss my guess.

I agree that going forward, there has to be a referendum on porn of any kind in their home and they should focus more on each other.

:dthumb: communication needs to happen, from both sides.

[Amber Lamps]

:dthumb: communication needs to happen, from both sides.

This.

[derf]

:dthumb: communication needs to happen, from both sides.

Fuck that pussy shit.

[Avatard]

I'm curious how his jerkin to porn felt like betrayal to you, when you openly speak of using your BOB? Aren't they both just a means to an end, a tool to aid in getting yourself off? No conversation, no emotion, just self gratification? :shrug:

Very insightful for a woman, Neebs.

Women often forget that men need visual stimulation in order to fulfill that function. Women are more emotionally driven, and can do it in their heads.

[azoomm]

So, you now "let" him look at porn?

[Avatard]

I think one needs to listen to him more (sexually), and stop directing how the game is played...or this will not end well.

[Tmall]

It all boils down to, is showing your tits worth a divorce?


Add as much fluff as you like, that's the situation and question at hand.

[Avatard]

In case it is, please send some to my inbox.

[Tmall]

Agreed. I have no problem contributing to the debauchery at hand.

[neebelung]

It all boils down to, is showing your tits worth a divorce?


Add as much fluff as you like, that's the situation and question at hand.

Quoted for truth. :dthumb:

[Trip]

I'm curious how his jerkin to porn felt like betrayal to you, when you openly speak of using your BOB? Aren't they both just a means to an end, a tool to aid in getting yourself off? No conversation, no emotion, just self gratification? :shrug:

I have had this discussion before with people that are like this. It's more of a self conscience thing. jerkin off without porn or BOB is not another partner. Looking at other women naked would bring someone else in even if it is just visually.

[azoomm]

I think one needs to listen to him more (sexually), and stop directing how the game is played...or this will not end well.

I think it might already be there, both parties just don't know the elephant is in the room....

[Avatard]

Here's a fix, it's radical, but radical surgery is warranted if it saves the patient:

If you want to involve him in this exploration of your sexuality, and maybe patch things up a bit in the process, you can try sharing some pics of you enjoying your man's penis. This says to all concerned: "you can look at my tits, but at the end of the day, this is my man's cock". Any man likes having his woman's beauty appreciated, as it confirms his good taste ;), and if he walks off with the maiden at the end of the story, he is king.

After you have involved him in this bit of play, however...for long term happiness, I would advise you to pursue more shared "activities" at home, and involve others less, as an ultimate goal.

[derf]

I think it might already be there, both parties just don't know the elephant is in the room....

Nobody here gives a shit about elephants. WTF are you talking about elephants, we are discussing pictures that have yet to be posted!!!

[dReWpY]

Bob?

[Avatard]

See: Steely Dan (guessing here).

[pauldun170]

If you want to involve him in this exploration of your sexuality, and maybe patch things up a bit in the process, you can try sharing some pics of you enjoying your man's penis. This says to all concerned: "you can look at my tits, but at the end of the day, this is my man's cock". Any man likes having his woman's beauty appreciated, as it confirms his good taste ;), and if he walks off with the maiden at the end of the story, he is king.


Nah...
"You can look at my tits and imagine this is your cock I'm goin down on"

...happy fappin


This thread is downright frustrating without pics.

[neebelung]

Bob?

Battery operated boyfriend.. Vibrator.

[Avatard]

Battery operated boyfriend.. Vibrator.

What I said.

[neebelung]

What I said.

:lol: yeah I didn't see yours till after mine posted.

[Avatard]

It's easy to miss...sometimes my references are as random as Dennis Miller, only I'm occasionally funny.

[Flexin]

Couldn't agree more! I think this is one of those things that should be discussed before entering a serious relationship. Some men/women don't mind if their partners so this sort of thing, others do.

The problem is that some people change their mind over time. Someone might not be into have nudes taken of them till much later so that could be a problem.

But yes this is something that should be discussed from the start.

James

[Kaneman]

Wait, wait....So you tried to stop a man from masturbating but now "allow" it, even though you use a sex toy on yourself. You can't have an actual orgasm with your husband (I think that was you anyway). You're sending pictures of your new tits to another guy. And you don't fully get why he would be opposed to this situation?

This is why men really invented clubs.

[Avatard]

This is why men really invented clubs.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/9528065/2/istockphoto_9528065-caveman-dragging-cave-woman.jpg

[neebelung]

:rofl:

[derf]

no this club silly

http://www.topnews.in/files/pole-dancing1.jpg

[Amber Lamps]

Yea I wasn't aware of all these details... I may be an asshole relationship-wise BUT I am always down for "fair". If I can do it, she can do it, if she can do it I can do it. Simple.

[itgirl]

Wait, wait....So you tried to stop a man from masturbating but now "allow" it, even though you use a sex toy on yourself. You can't have an actual orgasm with your husband (I think that was you anyway). You're sending pictures of your new tits to another guy. And you don't fully get why he would be opposed to this situation?

This is why men really invented clubs.

:lol: yep, i'm twisted aren't i?

anyways, perhaps this is all and end to something that shoulda ended long ago. maybe i'm trying to seal my fate. just wanted to see how many moral people there really are left in this world. kinda surprised (pleasantly) that there are so many of you. makes me wonder why the porn industry flourishes so much. sounds like everyone is eating at home these days. :)

[derf]

:lol: yep, i'm twisted aren't i?

anyways, perhaps this is all and end to something that shoulda ended long ago. maybe i'm trying to seal my fate. just wanted to see how many moral people there really are left in this world. kinda surprised (pleasantly) that there are so many of you. makes me wonder why the porn industry flourishes so much. sounds like everyone is eating at home these days. :)

Because all these so called moral people are only lying to everyone. They are all really freaks, at least in mind

[EpyonXero]

:lol: yep, i'm twisted aren't i?

anyways, perhaps this is all and end to something that shoulda ended long ago. maybe i'm trying to seal my fate. just wanted to see how many moral people there really are left in this world. kinda surprised (pleasantly) that there are so many of you. makes me wonder why the porn industry flourishes so much. sounds like everyone is eating at home these days. :)

I dont think most people see porn as the same thing as a personal exchange of pics. Some people use porn to stay moral and not leave home.

[HurricaneHeather]

Wow....why do threads like these get posted when I am not around?

This is great...

[itgirl]

I dont think most people see porn as the same thing as a personal exchange of pics. Some people use porn to stay moral and not leave home.

but i'm not leaving home either. it's just pics. i know, it doesn't seem like it's sinking in with me, does it? i'm frustrated with it too. BTW...use porn to stay moral. i love that! seems kinda oxymoronic to me.

Wow....why do threads like these get posted when I am not around?

This is great...

isn't it?! i hope everyone feels free to share their opinions. i like reading others' views. unfortunately it most likely doesn't change anything for me. what's done is done. but i am always willing to try and be a better person (without being someone's doormat in the process).

[Avatard]

itgirl, what religion were your parents?

[itgirl]

itgirl, what religion were your parents?

none. but that doesn't mean i lack faith. why does that matter?

[Apoc]

when can I see the pics?

[derf]

when can I see the pics?

Thank you for brining us back on topic

[Avatard]

none. but that doesn't mean i lack faith. why does that matter?

Turns out it doesn't...and I don't think morals have anything to do with faith...only hang-ups ;)

[Apoc]

ohhhhh..... you got new titties and your leaving!

What a thread! go out with a (gang)bang and tape it! if theres no kids, go wild. You can do it!

[Rangerscott]

I guess I'm just out of it cause I'm not getting whats going on.

I've never thought its a good idea to take pics of your self nude. What's wrong with storing that stuff in your brain?

[Apoc]

less talk, more titty!

[Amber Lamps]

less talk, more titty!

this!

[Captain Morgan]

Because all these so called moral people are only lying to everyone. They are all really freaks, at least in mind

Whoa, now. I've already admitted to the things I've done. Tigger has also admitted to things he's done. So, there are at least two people in this thread not lying to everyone. :lol:

And Kim, if you want to sabotage it, just get busy with his best friend right in front of him so he'll file for divorce. Or just file for divorce and avoid all the passive-aggressive BS.

[Riceaholic]

less talk, more titty!

Seriously. Neebs had a quality post earlier (that actually made a small amount of platonic sense) but this thread had an answer before it was started.

[Avatard]

Whoa, now. I've already admitted to the things I've done. Tigger has also admitted to things he's done. So, there are at least two people in this thread not lying to everyone. :lol:

Oh, shit yeah...as a former touring musician, I don't claim to be without a wild past myself, but I did learn something along the way. If anything you do sexually involves people from outside your relationship, there needs to be agreed upon ground rules, and limitations that both are comfortable with, or else it won't work. These need to be talked out clearly beforehand.

This is cool, that is not.

[Amber Lamps]

Oh, shit yeah...as a former touring musician, I don't claim to be without a wild past myself, but I did learn something along the way. If anything you do sexually involves people from outside your relationship, there needs to be agreed upon ground rules, and limitations that both are comfortable with, or else it won't work. These need to be talked out clearly beforehand.

This is cool, that is not.

True or.... you just have to not give a fuck!!! Hahahaha! I'm surprised that our resident Dr Phils haven't chimed in yet. There are all kinds of relationships, I've been in tighter than tight ones and loose, I'm fucking her two room mates and it's cool, ones. No one outside the relationship can decide what's wrong or right for another couple.

[Rider]

I know a pr0n star and I have watched her films and seen pic of her in the net.
She is actually good friends with my sister and my sister is the one that told me what movies she was in so I could watch them. :lol

[itgirl]

True or.... you just have to not give a fuck!!! Hahahaha! I'm surprised that our resident Dr Phils haven't chimed in yet. There are all kinds of relationships, I've been in tighter than tight ones and loose, I'm fucking her two room mates and it's cool, ones. No one outside the relationship can decide what's wrong or right for another couple.

true, tigger. but since i did ask for opinions i must now take my lashing from everyone. it's cool. no worries.

[Flexin]

The people that think porn is ok if they partner doesn't know the people don't know how small the world is now. Its not like looking a porn mag. There are plenty of sites that have people putting up their own pictures. You can also message they same people. Some could live close to you. Some could have family 10 blocks from you that they are going to visit next month for a week. So even if they don't know them they can get to know them in a hurry.

That being said I don't see a problem with people looking at porn. If my wife wants to look at porn I'm fine with it. If she sends nude pictures to people and hides it I'm going to be pissed off. If I know about it I wouldn't have a problem with it in most cases. I have received pictures from other woman. They live anywhere from 5 minutes to 18 hours away (could be some that are father but thats off the top of my head) and I don't hide it from my wife. If I do something she doesn't like she will let me know.

James

[Amber Lamps]

true, tigger. but since i did ask for opinions i must now take my lashing from everyone. it's cool. no worries.

Oh yea I know how that goes... Well, if you need to get away for a while hit me up! Good luck!

[Kaneman]

I wanna get back to this inability to have an orgasm thing as I find it extremely relevant to your situation. Are you sure your not a lesbian? You have short hair and a bad attitude....its possible....

[Flexin]

I wanna get back to this inability to have an orgasm thing as I find it extremely relevant to your situation. Are you sure your not a lesbian? You have short hair and a bad attitude....its possible....

Slow down skippy. One thing at a time. We are still waiting on pics.

James

[unknownroad]

I wanna get back to this inability to have an orgasm thing as I find it extremely relevant to your situation. Are you sure your not a lesbian? You have short hair and a bad attitude....its possible....

:lol

So i take it that after 6 pages there are still no pics? :wtf: Sure am glad i skipped ahead!

[Apoc]

true, tigger. but since i did ask for opinions i must now take my lashing from everyone. it's cool. no worries.

I cant form a proper opinion until I see titty pics! Preferably on the Nightster!

[Speedracer42]

my husband has no problem viewing naked women but seems to have an issue if the pics are of myself for others' viewing pleasure. sounds like a double-standard. am i wrong? it's not like there is any physical intimacy taking place. i don't get it.

I see this ALOT. My gf's ex husband was like this. BAD. SUPER jealous guy though in general. Her wearing a revealing top was a big deal. I am the polar opposite with her and even posted some noods of her on another forum we are on. She LOVES that I am proud enough of her to let her be/feel sexy and even enough to share that with others. I don't get why more guys aren't this way. That being said I never do it without her permission, and she approves the pics. Easy

[smileyman]

People change over their lives and it is a no brainer to assume that men and womens emotional and psychological needs arent goin to be in synch. When they are wow lotsa fun, but not usually.

So how to fulfill your needs without causing the person you care about the most pain? First step is the hardest. Actually figuring out what you need and why, then you have to communicate that. Or simply get happy living a lie...

[azoomm]

Tigger, Dr. Phil would imply there is something to fix. I think it's beyond fixing - or that one or both don't want to fix it. Unhappy? That's up to you to decide.

It all comes down to what you can live with.

[itgirl]

I wanna get back to this inability to have an orgasm thing as I find it extremely relevant to your situation. Are you sure your not a lesbian? You have short hair and a bad attitude....its possible....

i won't even dignify that tired, blatant display of sexual stereotyping with an answer. is it really that hard to believe that a man might not know how to please a woman? :lol

Tigger, Dr. Phil would imply there is something to fix. I think it's beyond fixing - or that one or both don't want to fix it. Unhappy? That's up to you to decide.

It all comes down to what you can live with.

i like this answer.

[Kaneman]

i won't even dignify that tired, blatant display of sexual stereotyping with an answer. is it really that hard to believe that a man might not know how to please a woman? :lol



Um, yes, it really is that hard to believe. It is even more hard to believe that someone would marry a guy that can't please them sexually...

[itgirl]

Um, yes, it really is that hard to believe. It is even more hard to believe that someone would marry a guy that can't please them sexually...

ok. whatever. you win. pigeonhole me if you like. you don't know me. there is more to marriage than sex. has been for 12 years. just recently changed for me.

[smileyman]

My first marriage lasted 12 yrs, current one has been 7. I think from what you infer I have been on both sides of this occaision. Can you live with being unfulfilled, can your spouse allow you to grow and explore without feeling threatened?

[Kaneman]

ok. whatever. you win. pigeonhole me if you like. you don't know me. there is more to marriage than sex. has been for 12 years. just recently changed for me.

Don't get all butt-hurt, its a legitimate conversation, Jesus. Of course there is more to a marriage than sex...but that is a significant part of it.

So is it just your husband that can't please you or has a man never given you the big O?

[smileyman]

May not be a sexual need at all Kaneman, but a different need being expressed sexually.

[Amber Lamps]

Tigger, Dr. Phil would imply there is something to fix. I think it's beyond fixing - or that one or both don't want to fix it. Unhappy? That's up to you to decide.

It all comes down to what you can live with.

True, I was just poking fun at a couple of the more sensitive guys on this board...

[Amber Lamps]

Don't get all butt-hurt, its a legitimate conversation, Jesus. Of course there is more to a marriage than sex...but that is a significant part of it.

So is it just your husband that can't please you or has a man never given you the big O?

I'd be more than happy to volunteer as a test subject, in the interest of science of course.

[Apoc]

True, I was just poking fun at a couple of the more sensitive guys on this board...

You mean the one who`s just now finding out that being a sweet, sensitive, pussy bitch doesnt keep your woman home with you?

[derf]

there is more to marriage than sex.


Please explain this more than sex thing? I don't understand it.

[azoomm]

You mean the one who`s just now finding out that being a sweet, sensitive, pussy bitch doesnt keep your woman home with you?

Probably.

But, I could have told you that. My husband has moments where he's sweet - like when I bought flowers for myself yesterday with some money I found in dryer that probably came out of his pocket :lol: I walked in and said "Thank you for the beautiful flowers!"

OK, so I went there to buy beer... then happened to buy the flowers :lol:

[Captain Morgan]

May not be a sexual need at all Kaneman, but a different need being expressed sexually.

I think we have a winner right here. From things I've read from Kim in the past and this current info, I'd be willing to bet she simply doesn't get the attention and the help at home that she wants. I'm guessing hubby doesn't help with the kids or the chores anywhere near as much as she wants. And this is how she's expressing her displeasure. She senses that he doesn't care, so she's acting out to get attention. Not sure if she's tried talking to him or not, but I know taking the actions she's taking isn't the solution. And when I say talking, I mean actual talking, not telling him what to do, or getting angry and yelling, but having an actual conversation that results in some compromise between them.

[Kaneman]

OK, so I went there to buy beer... then happened to buy the flowers :lol:

And THAT'S why your marriage works! :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

You mean the one who`s just now finding out that being a sweet, sensitive, pussy bitch doesnt keep your woman home with you?

WOW!!! I want the record to show that I wasn't the one who said it! I promised her that I'd leave him alone. Oh and yep that is correct sir!

[pauldun170]

I'm tired of waiting for pics....

I'm getting a tissue box ready now.

Someone talk dirty please.....

[CrazyKell]

Someone talk dirty please.....

That I'm good at. ;)

[Captain Morgan]

That I'm good at. ;)

Uh, then do it, don't just say you're good at it.

[Amber Lamps]

Uh, then do it, don't just say you're good at it.

Psst Captain, I wonder if we can get talk Kelly into a 3 way.... Hell, I wonder if we can get Kim to join in and make it a nice 4 way!!! w00t!

[Rider]

Psst Captain, I wonder if we can get talk Kelly into a 3 way.... Hell, I wonder if we can get Kim to join in and make it a nice 4 way!!! w00t!

Sounds a little ghey. You want a 3 way with Captain? :skep:

[CrazyKell]

Uh, then do it, don't just say you're good at it.

Dance monkey dance!

[neebelung]

I heart this thread.

[dReWpY]

true, tigger. but since i did ask for opinions i must now take my lashing from everyone. it's cool. no worries.

this thread has actually made me change my opinon of a how I view pron and the double standard of I can look at pics but i dont want my gf to send pics out or have pics of herself in someone elses possesion:skep:

[derf]

true, tigger. but since i did ask for opinions i must now take my lashing from everyone. it's cool. no worries.

Lashing, spanking its all the same.

[Amorok]

I probably consume moreporn than any two people on this forum. I don't know if I'm an expert but I do have an informed opinion. That being said, porn is awesome because it's meaningless fantasy. Video games are cool in the same way, it's fun to spend a couple of hours engaging in a fantasy, but actually running around with chain swords killing Hydras would be totally different. Likewise, it's fun to vent a little mental steam watching porn because I know none of it is real. Those girls don't walk around looking like that and I imagine sex with them wouldn't be like that either. Being able to fantasize is cool because it let's me mentally explore things I'm not able to in real life, but seeing pictures and video of someone I know would change things. Now this is someone from my real life suddenly in my fantasy life. The whole point of porn for me is to keep those two worlds seperate, and having them meet like that is not healthy. Now I'm fantasizing about someone in my real life, bondaries are being crossed in my mind and I'm moving closer to an innappropriate event. In my real life if only in that the possibility becomes more defined in my own mind. While I might idly fantasize about women I see or meet, seeing them featured in porn would become disturbingly real, so I think seeing porn with someone I know is innappropriate.

As for my wife sharing pictures with someone else, that's a no go. Her nudity is only for me, as is mine for her. There are certain situations as adults where utilitarian coed nudity may happen, but that's far and away a different thing than sultry underwear shots, and that's not allowed. The rule of thumb is that anything you wouldn't do in front of someone in person is not something you can share pictures of unless your significant other approves.

Sorry for being the voice of reason.

[Trip]

I probably consume moreporn than any two people on this forum. I don't know if I'm an expert but I do have an informed opinion. That being said, porn is awesome because it's meaningless fantasy. Video games are cool in the same way, it's fun to spend a couple of hours engaging in a fantasy, but actually running around with chain swords killing Hydras would be totally different. Likewise, it's fun to vent a little mental steam watching porn because I know none of it is real. Those girls don't walk around looking like that and I imagine sex with them wouldn't be like that either. Being able to fantasize is cool because it let's me mentally explore things I'm not able to in real life, but seeing pictures and video of someone I know would change things. Now this is someone from my real life suddenly in my fantasy life. The whole point of porn for me is to keep those two worlds seperate, and having them meet like that is not healthy. Now I'm fantasizing about someone in my real life, bondaries are being crossed in my mind and I'm moving closer to an innappropriate event. In my real life if only in that the possibility becomes more defined in my own mind. While I might idly fantasize about women I see or meet, seeing them featured in porn would become disturbingly real, so I think seeing porn with someone I know is innappropriate.

As for my wife sharing pictures with someone else, that's a no go. Her nudity is only for me, as is mine for her. There are certain situations as adults where utilitarian coed nudity may happen, but that's far and away a different thing than sultry underwear shots, and that's not allowed. The rule of thumb is that anything you wouldn't do in front of someone in person is not something you can share pictures of unless your significant other approves.

Sorry for being the voice of reason.

Does your wife approve of your pr0n habit?

[Tmall]

I probably consume moreporn than any two people on this forum. I don't know if I'm an expert but I do have an informed opinion. That being said, porn is awesome because it's meaningless fantasy. Video games are cool in the same way, it's fun to spend a couple of hours engaging in a fantasy, but actually running around with chain swords killing Hydras would be totally different. Likewise, it's fun to vent a little mental steam watching porn because I know none of it is real. Those girls don't walk around looking like that and I imagine sex with them wouldn't be like that either. Being able to fantasize is cool because it let's me mentally explore things I'm not able to in real life, but seeing pictures and video of someone I know would change things. Now this is someone from my real life suddenly in my fantasy life. The whole point of porn for me is to keep those two worlds seperate, and having them meet like that is not healthy. Now I'm fantasizing about someone in my real life, bondaries are being crossed in my mind and I'm moving closer to an innappropriate event. In my real life if only in that the possibility becomes more defined in my own mind. While I might idly fantasize about women I see or meet, seeing them featured in porn would become disturbingly real, so I think seeing porn with someone I know is innappropriate.

As for my wife sharing pictures with someone else, that's a no go. Her nudity is only for me, as is mine for her. There are certain situations as adults where utilitarian coed nudity may happen, but that's far and away a different thing than sultry underwear shots, and that's not allowed. The rule of thumb is that anything you wouldn't do in front of someone in person is not something you can share pictures of unless your significant other approves.

Sorry for being the voice of reason.


I think there are only 2-3 that disagree with you.

[Tmall]

Does your wife approve of your pr0n habit?

Look at porn while your wife is away. Then take her with you while you hand deliver polaroids of your boner to your neghbours. Lemme know which one works out for ya. :lol:

[karl_1052]

There's tons of porn where a girl will suck a guy's dick after it's been in another girl's ass and that is considered "HOT" but if a guy kisses a girl after her mouth was on another guys dick for .01 of a second that's "YUCK"...weird...

Wrong. both are gross.

[derf]

I think there are only 2-3 that disagree with you.

Seriously. That chain sword killing hydra thing sounds fun

[itgirl]

I think we have a winner right here. From things I've read from Kim in the past and this current info, I'd be willing to bet she simply doesn't get the attention and the help at home that she wants. I'm guessing hubby doesn't help with the kids or the chores anywhere near as much as she wants. And this is how she's expressing her displeasure. She senses that he doesn't care, so she's acting out to get attention. Not sure if she's tried talking to him or not, but I know taking the actions she's taking isn't the solution. And when I say talking, I mean actual talking, not telling him what to do, or getting angry and yelling, but having an actual conversation that results in some compromise between them.

captain...this is dead on!! and for what it's worth, hubby doesn't communicate well. i talk, he doesn't listen. ever.

[Avatard]

Show your tits on the internet less, and in his face more, he will listen more attentively, I promise.

[Captain Morgan]

Show your tits on the internet less, and in his face more, he will listen more attentively, I promise.

No, then the blood will rush out of his brain. :lol: But seriously, just walk in the living room later tonight wearing something skimpy and sit on his lap, facing him. Show some affection, and maybe you'll get some in return. Or, maybe he'll be a douche and tell you he's not in the mood.

[smileyman]

Complicated. Is it your attention he wants? is it his attention you want?

[Apoc]

WOW!!! I want the record to show that I wasn't the one who said it! I promised her that I'd leave him alone. Oh and yep that is correct sir!

How dare a man be a man!

Theres a time for flowers, sure. But theres also a time to tell the bitch to stop being a bitch!

[derf]

Through this whole thread i def have realized who would be the little devil on the left shoulder and the angel on the right one.

[Flexin]

I think there are only 2-3 that disagree with you.

I might be one of those three. I love nudity. If it people I don't know great. If I do know them that's good as well. As far as video gos that would be the same. Now if I had strong feelings for them vids or pictures with someone else might not be as good but it depends. And I don't need it to remain a fantasy.

James

[Cory]

I was gonna say something, then seen ghost cock in someones signature and lost my train of thought :lol

[Avatard]

Men are like dogs.

You can't expect to have a nice dog if you just beat him when he's wrong. You'll do much better rewarding him when he's good.

Likewise, withholding sex, and showing your tits to others won't make him listen more, it will make him resent you more, and make the two of you more distant.

Take a week, and focus all of your sexuality on him, and seducing him, and see if he becomes more attentive, and more of an active partner. Men equate how much sex they get from their women with how much they are wanted and desired in the relationship. If you show no desire, you tell him you don't really like him, and if you send that vibe, you shouldn't act shocked if he doesn't listen or engage you.

Try "paying forward" the love, rather than withholding, and see how that works.

[fnfalman]

I like porn.

[neebelung]

This. All of it. :dthumb:

I probably consume moreporn than any two people on this forum. I don't know if I'm an expert but I do have an informed opinion. That being said, porn is awesome because it's meaningless fantasy. Video games are cool in the same way, it's fun to spend a couple of hours engaging in a fantasy, but actually running around with chain swords killing Hydras would be totally different. Likewise, it's fun to vent a little mental steam watching porn because I know none of it is real. Those girls don't walk around looking like that and I imagine sex with them wouldn't be like that either. Being able to fantasize is cool because it let's me mentally explore things I'm not able to in real life, but seeing pictures and video of someone I know would change things. Now this is someone from my real life suddenly in my fantasy life. The whole point of porn for me is to keep those two worlds seperate, and having them meet like that is not healthy. Now I'm fantasizing about someone in my real life, bondaries are being crossed in my mind and I'm moving closer to an innappropriate event. In my real life if only in that the possibility becomes more defined in my own mind. While I might idly fantasize about women I see or meet, seeing them featured in porn would become disturbingly real, so I think seeing porn with someone I know is innappropriate.

As for my wife sharing pictures with someone else, that's a no go. Her nudity is only for me, as is mine for her. There are certain situations as adults where utilitarian coed nudity may happen, but that's far and away a different thing than sultry underwear shots, and that's not allowed. The rule of thumb is that anything you wouldn't do in front of someone in person is not something you can share pictures of unless your significant other approves.

Sorry for being the voice of reason.

[neebelung]

Men are like dogs.

You can't expect to have a nice dog if you just beat him when he's wrong. You'll do much better rewarding him when he's good.

Likewise, withholding sex, and showing your tits to others won't make him listen more, it will make him resent you more, and make the two of you more distant.

Try "paying forward" the love, rather than withholding, and see how that works.

Nicely put (esp the "paying it forward") :dthumb:

[dReWpY]

withholding sex/or sexual acts as punishment is fcked up....

[CrazyKell]

withholding sex/or sexual acts as punishment is fcked up....

Ya I can't even imagine this. I mean, I can't imagine wanting to use that as punishment. Crazy.

[neebelung]

withholding sex/or sexual acts as punishment is fcked up....
agreed; I've never understood that line of thinking - Everyone suffers!! :lol:

[Cory]

Likewise, withholding sex, and showing your tits to others won't make him listen more, it will make him resent you more, and make the two of you more distant.

Try "paying forward" the love, rather than withholding, and see how that works.

I agree..but I also know that if it has come to withholding sex and sending dirty pics to other people "paying it forward" is probably the LAST thing she wants to do right now. Unless of course she is paying it forward with a steak knife. :lol:

I suggest TALKING to your so. If he won't listen, try harder. Hurting him by sending pics to someone else against his wishes is only going to make the situation worse. The whole "if you won't pay attention to me then I will find someone who will" only EVER ends badly. :td:

[Captain Morgan]

Amazingly good advice in here. Hope you listen, Kim. ;)

[Amber Lamps]

withholding sex/or sexual acts as punishment is fcked up....

Yea well, that type of thinking is incredibly stupid. My girl has a pussy not the pussy... If she is unwilling to satisfy my needs, I'm sure that I can have my needs met elsewhere...

[racedoll]

My manager's live-in girlfriend is a stripper. I feel weird getting lap dances from her when we all go out to the club. But she's the hottest stripper in the club...

You really need to find a new club or location to live... sounds like that place sucks. :lol:

wow, you're thorough. :lol: no on all accounts.

i used to have real issues with porn. i thought it was just awful and wanted my husband having nothing to do with it. the girls may have been anonymous, but the feeling of betrayal was still the same for me. it was still my husband viewing another person naked.

..instead of you...

Yes, he should have taken your feelings into consideration and looked at porn less. Or at least take care of your needs in the bedroom, even if he took care of his own needs while you were gone.

Exactly.

I will say that since your um, upgrades, I'm sure that your self esteem is higher which has made you more tolerant of porn. Before when you weren't so gifted it hurt because you felt inadequate but now you can look at the pics and say, "Ha mine are nicer!" I'm sure that it's all about self esteem on both sides. Now that you are hotter, he feels less secure. He wouldn't be the first guy whose SO got enhanced and later bolted on him. I bet he notices every leer and hears every comment when you enter a room.

Good point Tigger.

Take a week, and focus all of your sexuality on him, and seducing him, and see if he becomes more attentive, and more of an active partner. Men equate how much sex they get from their women with how much they are wanted and desired in the relationship. If you show no desire, you tell him you don't really like him, and if you send that vibe, you shouldn't act shocked if he doesn't listen or engage you.

Try "paying forward" the love, rather than withholding, and see how that works.

There are a few men out there that don't speak this "love language", mine for example.

I suggest TALKING to your so. If he won't listen, try harder. Hurting him by sending pics to someone else against his wishes is only going to make the situation worse. The whole "if you won't pay attention to me then I will find someone who will" only EVER ends badly. :td:

Kim - have you tried sending your husband your pictures? Maybe a little role playing is in order. :shrug:

[itgirl]

thanks everyone. i am taking all suggestions under advisement. and i'm going to bow out of the discussion now as well. i have prbably shared way too much of my personal life and will practice filtering my thoughts a bit. continue to discuss if you like though.

[EpyonXero]

Ya I can't even imagine this. I mean, I can't imagine wanting to use that as punishment. Crazy.

At least most guys know that you dont get what you want by holding out, you get what you want by dicknotizing your girl. :lol:

[2up]

I agree..but I also know that if it has come to withholding sex and sending dirty pics to other people "paying it forward" is probably the LAST thing she wants to do right now. Unless of course she is paying it forward with a steak knife. :lol:

I suggest TALKING to your so. If he won't listen, try harder. Hurting him by sending pics to someone else against his wishes is only going to make the situation worse. The whole "if you won't pay attention to me then I will find someone who will" only EVER ends badly. :td:

What she said.

And I don't think she should have to stick her tits in her husband's face to get his attention. I'm thinking marriage counseling or divorce are the only 2 real options here.

[Avatard]

What she said.

And I don't think she should have to stick her tits in her husband's face to get his attention.

No, but she wouldn't be seeking attention elsewhere in that manner, if she didn't need it. I would venture to say if she redirected that energy and attention at him, it would be far more likely to have a positive result than what she's doing.

I'm thinking marriage counseling or divorce are the only 2 real options here.

Yeah, because digging yourself, and realizing that you're doing a destructive thing to the relationship is really so over-rated.

Besides, shrinks needs jobs too.

Or maybe she could try engaging him more, and I'd bet dollars to donuts the shit works...men aren't wired all that complicated.

http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~rajwar/base/PICS/Man_Woman_Engineering.jpg

[2up]

No, but she wouldn't be seeking attention elsewhere in that manner, if she didn't need it. I would venture to say if she redirected that energy and attention at him, it would be far more likely to have a positive result than what she's doing.

Yeah, because digging yourself, and realizing that you're doing a destructive thing to the relationship is really so over-rated.

Besides, shrinks needs jobs too.

Or maybe she could try engaging him more, and I'd bet dollars to donuts the shit works...men aren't wired all that complicated.



I assure you that its an over-simplification to say "men aren't wired all that complicated." She stated outright that her husband doesn't listen to her when she speaks. If a kid throws a temper tantrum it doesn't mean they wish they would get punished and figured out the best way to do that. She's not just unhappy with their sex life so why try to just get laid? There are deeper issues here and sometimes it does take an objective third party to work issues out.

[Eeyore]

I assure you that its an over-simplification to say "men aren't wired all that complicated." She stated outright that her husband doesn't listen to her when she speaks. If a kid throws a temper tantrum it doesn't mean they wish they would get punished and figured out the best way to do that. She's not just unhappy with their sex life so why try to just get laid? There are deeper issues here and sometimes it does take an objective third party to work issues out.

You are as wise as you are lovely!

[Rangerscott]

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMP215ep9_f-2AEQ2AUYTzIIwHblmGgf05w

[racedoll]

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMP215ep9_f-2AEQ2AUYTzIIwHblmGgf05w

Should we know something (about you) :lol:

[neebelung]

I assure you that its an over-simplification to say "men aren't wired all that complicated." She stated outright that her husband doesn't listen to her when she speaks. If a kid throws a temper tantrum it doesn't mean they wish they would get punished and figured out the best way to do that. She's not just unhappy with their sex life so why try to just get laid? There are deeper issues here and sometimes it does take an objective third party to work issues out.

Let's also keep in mind here that we're only hearing one side of the story. :shrug: I'm just sayin.....

[Rangerscott]

Should we know something (about you) :lol:

Just showing that they are "real" guys.

[lauralynne]

Yea I wasn't aware of all these details... I may be an asshole relationship-wise BUT I am always down for "fair". If I can do it, she can do it, if she can do it I can do it. Simple.

The rules don't have to be equal - just mutually agreed on. simple and respectful. And discussed frequently.

[dReWpY]

Yea well, that type of thinking is incredibly stupid. My girl has a pussy not the pussy... If she is unwilling to satisfy my needs, I'm sure that I can have my needs met elsewhere...

quoted for the mother fuckin- give tig a award for the best thing any man has ever said about relationships-truth

[Adeptus_Minor]

The rules don't have to be equal - just mutually agreed on. simple and respectful. And discussed frequently.

Well stated. :dthumb:

[Captain Morgan]

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMP215ep9_f-2AEQ2AUYTzIIwHblmGgf05w

:lol Why does every one of those guys look like he's trying to win the douche of the year award?

[Amber Lamps]

:lol Why does every one of those guys look like he's trying to win the douche of the year award?

Damn competition!!!

[EpyonXero]

:lol Why does every one of those guys look like he's trying to win the douche of the year award?

Because thats what women want?

[azoomm]

Because thats what women want?

I just threw up a little....

[LeeNetworX]

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMP215ep9_f-2AEQ2AUYTzIIwHblmGgf05w

Nice tie-in to the Douche Bag thread.

[CrazyKell]

Because thats what women want?

Uh...no. :td:

[neebelung]

The rules don't have to be equal - just mutually agreed on. simple and respectful. And discussed frequently.

x elventy billion.

[Apoc]

4 fucking pages, and I havent seen Itgirls titties yet!

EPIC FAIL!

[neebelung]

4 fucking pages, and I havent seen Itgirls titties yet!

EPIC FAIL!

FOUR? Mine's at TEN! :lol:



:boobs:

[Captain Morgan]

FOUR? Mine's at TEN! :lol:



:boobs:

Mine's only at 2 pages. I love :boobs:

[Apoc]

FOUR? Mine's at TEN! :lol:



:boobs:

50 posts per page!

[Avatard]

Fuck the page numbering. This post makes #199 and still no fucking tits.

Two hundred posts about fucking tits, and no fucking tits?

WTF??

[Apoc]

We want titty!!! 200 posts for titty!

[LeeNetworX]

We want titty!!! 200 posts for titty!

Here you go - three sets of tits (2 front, 1 back).

[Apoc]

im not even gonna ask why you have that :lol:

[LeeNetworX]

im not even gonna ask why you have that :lol:

Google Images Ninja Magic

[Rider]

Google Images Ninja Magic

Peopleofwalmart.com

[LeeNetworX]

Peopleofwalmart.com

That's a good source, too. :lol

[Cutty72]

Yea well, that type of thinking is incredibly stupid. My girl has a pussy not the pussy... If she is unwilling to satisfy my needs, I'm sure that I can have my needs met elsewhere...

I have told my SO this before. Sometimes she gets the hint, sometimes she doesn't. The ones that didn't are no longer with me.

[pauldun170]

Here you go - three sets of tits (2 front, 1 back).

oh my god

It's like a scene out of "The Ring"

[HurricaneHeather]

Here you go - three sets of tits (2 front, 1 back).

How does that happen?!?!?!?!

[LeeNetworX]

oh my god

It's like a scene out of "The Ring"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmMgPlVkeMY

How does that happen?!?!?!?!

I'm not sure; I don't know anyone who has them.

[neebelung]

Fuck the page numbering. This post makes #199 and still no fucking tits.

Two hundred posts about fucking tits, and no fucking tits?

WTF??

Excellent point!!! Bring on the boobage!


:nopic:

[Captain Morgan]

Excellent point!!! Bring on the boobage!


:nopic:

Yeah, if you don't want your face on the net while showing off the goods, just post the boobs and we'll be happy. :D

[shadowknuckles]

I'd have an issue with my SO if she were showing nudes pics of herself to others. it's a matter of soliciting sexual attention from other men that would bother me..... Her watching porn isn't her looking for other men to give her that type of attention.

When you're single there's nothing wrong with wanting attention whatever kind it is.... but in a relationship it's kind of like saying the person you're with's attention isn't sufficient and i'd find that a bit offensive.

[derf]

Yeah, if you don't want your face on the net while showing off the goods, just post the boobs and we'll be happy. :D

Agreed, boobs are needed!