ignorance of some people truly amazes me

[tommymac]

So here I am at work, still nursing the hangover from my birthday festivities on sat night :rockwoot:
I have a patient go off on me about something, I am still not realy sure, but she decides to pull the race card, (its convienient being a white guy working in a predominantly black neighborhood) its nothing new for me, but then my nurse tries to step in and help out with things and she starts going off on the nurse saying she doesnt want to take care of her own people:wtfru:

She stomed out of here (well gimped actualy with a leg injury) saying she will never come here again, hey works for me, less work I have to do.

it does kind abother me when some stoop that low and try to pull crap like that, but its nice when other co workers who are black openly back me over them so it makes em look even more stupid.

Well another 90 minutes and I get to go home, we will see who else I can piss off in the mean time

[Fleck750]

Race, age, sex, doesn't matter with some people, there's always a "pity me" in the crowd.

[Tmall]

"its because I'm black?"

" you think I do drugs because I'm black?"

Always answer yes, shuts em right up.

[tommymac]

Race, age, sex, doesn't matter with some people, there's always a "pity me" in the crowd.

fortunatley there was no audience this time, its the worst when its crowded and one starts going off because it starts to fire up everyone else and turns it into an us against them thing with all the patients.

[Fleck750]

"its because I'm black?"

" you think I do drugs because I'm black?"

Always answer yes, shuts em right up.

No, it's because you're stupid. That's what I would say. :D

[tommymac]

No, it's because you're stupid. That's what I would say. :D

funny thing is I would probably get in more trouble for that than saying its because theyre black :lol:

but god knows I have wanted to

[Amber Lamps]

funny thing is I would probably get in more trouble for that than saying its because theyre black :lol:

but god knows I have wanted to

Probably...but you ar willing to admit that you don't like black people very much, aren't you? Don't get me wrong, you have the right the like or dislike whomever you choose. I've just always gotten the impression that you have a certain disdain for them in general. Perhaps I misunderstand some of the things you say on here but it certainly seems that way.

Oh and I'm not calling you "racist", I just think that you and quite a few others on this board, aren't exactly fans of the negro race... Will you be honest about it or dish out a bunch of platitudes about good black people and bad black people.

[wildchild]

Oh and I'm not calling you "racist", I just think that you and quite a few others on this board, aren't exactly fans of the negro race... Will you be honest about it or dish out a bunch of platitudes about good black people and bad black people.


you said negro.................you racist. lol

i don't think it's the black he doesn't like, i think it's the stupid people.

[tommymac]

you said negro.................you racist. lol

i don't think it's the black he doesn't like, i think it's the stupid people.

thank you, guess someones just tryin to bait me for one of the arguements he so deraly loves.

[azoomm]

you said negro.................you racist. lol

i don't think it's the black he doesn't like, i think it's the stupid people.

There are certain people on the planet that no one should have to deal with. My grandfather called those people N------ not because of what color they are, but their general attitude, demeanor and work ethic.

[shmike]

There are certain people on the planet that no one should have to deal with. My grandfather called those people N------ not because of what color they are, but their general attitude, demeanor and work ethic.

How many times did Gramps call a white kid a N-----? :scratch:

[azoomm]

Plenty, he was from Wisconsin. :lol:

[shmike]

IC.

Plenty of lazy-assed N-----s up that way. :lol:

[azoomm]

And, most of them (if not all back in the day) white.

[unknownroad]

I have a patient go off on me about something, I am still not realy sure, but she decides to pull the race card, (its convienient being a white guy working in a predominantly black neighborhood) its nothing new for me, but then my nurse tries to step in and help out with things and she starts going off on the nurse saying she doesnt want to take care of her own people:wtfru:


You just need to pull the race card first- if you were a black PA, she wouldn't be giving you so much shit, just can't stand having a white man telling her what to do :blah:

[Amber Lamps]

There are certain people on the planet that no one should have to deal with. My grandfather called those people N------ not because of what color they are, but their general attitude, demeanor and work ethic.

Ah come on... I would accept and even respect that if he used that term regardless of race. When you only use it to refer to black people then you are racist. Oh and no, white people can't be niggers. That's a bullshit smokescreen that whites put up to justify their use of the word.In fact, it's almost worse because they then use it to describe white people that act "black"...

As far as "work ethic" goes, white people have consistently employed/forced/coerced minorities to do the hard work in this country. What could possibly be lazier than enslaving another race to do all your work? I have never met a lazier group of people than some of the white folks I've met down here.

My favorite episode of Family Guy...

http://familyguy.watchfullepisodesonline.com/family_guy_season_3_episode_12_to_love_and_die_in_ dixie.html

My favorite quote...

"The deep south? Isn't that the place the black guys are really lazy and the white guys are just as lazy but they're mad at the black people for being so lazy?"

Hahahaha!

[azoomm]

Ah come on... I would accept and even respect that if he used that term regardless of race. When you only use it to refer to black people then you are racist. Oh and no, white people can't be niggers. That's a bullshit smokescreen that whites put up to justify their use of the word.In fact, it's almost worse because they then use it to describe white people that act "black"...

You're reading entirely too much into it. He passed away quite a few years ago, or I'd ask him. I don't ever remember seeing a black person in that part of the world until I was an adult. Hell, when I moved away from there as a 12-year-old I was a bit shocked to learn that not every person was white and catholic...

[Tmall]

How many white singers use the word nigger in their songs?

In fact, what is the percentage of black people who use it against whites?


Wrong is wrong. If you can do it, so can I. And I don't care if you're offended.

[Apoc]

You're reading entirely too much into it. He passed away quite a few years ago, or I'd ask him. I don't ever remember seeing a black person in that part of the world until I was an adult. Hell, when I moved away from there as a 12-year-old I was a bit shocked to learn that not every person was white and catholic...



My uncles daughter met her first black person at about age 4...

She quickly asked, "Why is your face so dirty?"

[Tmall]

Nigga, now there's an ignorant bullshit smoke screen if you want to talk about one.

"its our word" nope, its not.

See where I'm going? Ignorance begets ignorance.

[Apoc]

Hell, i remember one member (not sure if it was here or cf) even saying it wasnt ok for white people to sing along to rap music with the word 'nigger' in it... Perfectly ok for them to selll millions of copies of said songs though....

[Amber Lamps]

thank you, guess someones just tryin to bait me for one of the arguements he so deraly loves.

See this is why I don't try and post from my phone! Yikes!

I do love to argue but really, Tommy a lot of you are bigoted, I have no idea why you won't admit it... For example, I dislike and distrust middle easterners- period. I don't like them and I limit my dealings with them accordingly. My father despised Asians and would routinely let you know it too! My mother wasn't allowed in my grandparents home because she was white. My GF can't tell her family that I am part black because several of them belong to the KKK and basically all of them would disown her.

There was once a study done where they took a bunch of supposedly racially unbiased people, hooked them up to a lie detector and asked them a bunch of racially charged questions... well, you can just imagine what they found. Heck, I'm not necessarily against racial bias, you have a right to feel however you want. I'm just calling into question the denial. I mean seriously, "My grandpa uses the "N" word but he doesn't mean it racially..." Hahahahaha!

[Amber Lamps]

You're reading entirely too much into it. He passed away quite a few years ago, or I'd ask him. I don't ever remember seeing a black person in that part of the world until I was an adult. Hell, when I moved away from there as a 12-year-old I was a bit shocked to learn that not every person was white and catholic...

Oh well, the word refers to black people. You obviously can use it any way you want but that doesn't change the meaning. It's like the bitch thread, sure you can use the word bitch to describe anyone or anything you wish but it doesn't change the root meaning. Besides, I'm just fucking with you. Lots of older white people are bigotted, most of the time for no real reason. Like you said, they've barely even seen a black person, much less have any real reason to hate them. It doesn't stop them though.

[Amorok]

Play it again, Tigger.

http://theblackcommenter.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/race-card.jpg

http://sethandray.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/racecard1.jpg

http://doesitallmatter.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/race-card-06.jpg

http://baldilocks.typepad.com/baldilocks/race_card.gif

[smileyman]

Racism is not acceptable, but discrimination is a natural human state. We are all inherintly resistant to anything different, culturally or racially. But here is the deal. We are all slightly OCD, or Manic depressive, or whatever. The point these natural tendencies become problems is when they cause you not to lead a normal life. When you become irrational about your predjudices. Like nazis and Jews, Japanese and Chinese, maybe in some places muslim v. Christian.

[Amber Lamps]

How many white singers use the word nigger in their songs?

In fact, what is the percentage of black people who use it against whites?


Wrong is wrong. If you can do it, so can I. And I don't care if you're offended.

Wrong. That's a bigot's excuse. If I do something wrong, then it makes it okay for you to do it too? So now two "wrongs" do make a right?

We've gone over this before. Just because you refer to your wife as a bitch doesn't mean that anyone can call her a bitch, does it? It's all in the context. Me and you are buddies, you call me a faggot or whatever, I laugh it off and call you a motherfucker. Hahahaha... Some stranger tries that and ends up picking up his teeth.

The thing about black people using the word nigger relates to their ability to take lemons and make lemonade. You give us the cast off remains of the pig to eat? We'll make them delicacies. You call us niggers as a derogatory term? We'll turn it into a badge of honor and us it to bring solidarity to our ranks! Then we'll use it so much in our media and entertainment that we'll change it into something positive. Making all the white suburban kids WISH that they were niggers!!!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/291638/clayton_bigsby/

[azoomm]

Hell, i remember one member (not sure if it was here or cf) even saying it wasnt ok for white people to sing along to rap music with the word 'nigger' in it... Perfectly ok for them to selll millions of copies of said songs though....

I think that was the same person that told me I owed him something because I am white and he is black... because, me being white means MY ancestors enslaved his ancestors. I didn't think there were black slaves in the Ukraine.

But, yes I know who you are talking about.

Tigger, you missed the point. You're right - you can have that word. No good comes from that word, not even to ruffle feathers. Cunt at least has a good ring to it.

[Tmall]

It doesn't make me a bigot. It makes you a hypocrite. You cry about ppl doing something you do yourself.

If a thief gets robbed, I don't care. If a murderer is murdered, I don't care.

If a black person says nigger, I don't care. But, I do expect the same courtesy in return. Or is equality not what you fought for?


You realize what equal means right?

[Amber Lamps]

Racism is not acceptable, but discrimination is a natural human state. We are all inherintly resistant to anything different, culturally or racially. But here is the deal. We are all slightly OCD, or Manic depressive, or whatever. The point these natural tendencies become problems is when they cause you not to lead a normal life. When you become irrational about your predjudices. Like nazis and Jews, Japanese and Chinese, maybe in some places muslim v. Christian.

Oh I agree with this completely. If you choose not to let niggers into your home, that is your right. If you don't go to 7/11s anymore because they are all owned by sand niggers, that is also your right. However, if you are going out in white hoods and hanging black people because they have a nicer car than you, well you may have crossed a line. Hahahahaaha!

[azoomm]

You realize what equal means right?

You're not supposed to make sense in a thread about ignorance...

[Tmall]

Just curious, are victims or rape allowed to rape because it happened to them?

If its their way of taking back that power, good on them right?


One wrong is all it takes to make a right tig? Or are you just having trouble expressing yourself properly?

[Amber Lamps]

I think that was the same person that told me I owed him something because I am white and he is black... because, me being white means MY ancestors enslaved his ancestors. I didn't think there were black slaves in the Ukraine.

But, yes I know who you are talking about.

Tigger, you missed the point. You're right - you can have that word. No good comes from that word, not even to ruffle feathers. Cunt at least has a good ring to it.

Aww.. come on, you can put up a better fight than that!

[marko138]

Wrong. That's a bigot's excuse. If I do something wrong, then it makes it okay for you to do it too? So now two "wrongs" do make a right?

We've gone over this before. Just because you refer to your wife as a bitch doesn't mean that anyone can call her a bitch, does it? It's all in the context. Me and you are buddies, you call me a faggot or whatever, I laugh it off and call you a motherfucker. Hahahaha... Some stranger tries that and ends up picking up his teeth.

The thing about black people using the word nigger relates to their ability to take lemons and make lemonade. You give us the cast off remains of the pig to eat? We'll make them delicacies. You call us niggers as a derogatory term? We'll turn it into a badge of honor and us it to bring solidarity to our ranks! Then we'll use it so much in our media and entertainment that we'll change it into something positive. Making all the white suburban kids WISH that they were niggers!!!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/291638/clayton_bigsby/

Just caught a replay of that a couple days ago.

[Tmall]

The fight is almost won, you're on the ropes and punch drunk.

If I were a bigot, I would say you should be able to handle yourself in the ring.

Pretty apparent you can't. :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

You're not supposed to make sense in a thread about ignorance...

That only makes sense to you people.... hahahaha!


To say that if I strike my wife, you have the right to strike her is ludicrous. So if I call my brother a nigger then you have a right to call me, my brother and all other black people in the world niggers? You call that equal? If every rapper on the planet came out tomorrow with a song that exclusively used the word nigger. You would not have the "right" to call me a nigger. Seriously, you think that because some musicians use a word, that makes it okay for you to refer to an entire race in that manner? Oh okay.

[Tmall]

You people? What do you mean you people?

[Tmall]

Its not based solely off of rappers. Stop being willfully obtuse.

You just said it was ok for you and not ok for me.

Why is that? Am I a minority now? If so, I would like some preferential treatment please.

[Amber Lamps]

Just curious, are victims or rape allowed to rape because it happened to them?

If its their way of taking back that power, good on them right?


One wrong is all it takes to make a right tig? Or are you just having trouble expressing yourself properly?

Okay, let me get this straight... if a girl is raped, does it give her the "right" to go out and rape other people that had nothing to do with the original crime? Um no. The better question is if I, a black man, call my neighbor, a black man a nigger, does that give YOU the right to call every black man on the planet a nigger? That is your premise. Because some black people choose to use the word nigger, you now have a "right" to call us all niggers. Why can't you see that?

[azoomm]

You people? What do you mean you people?

You, YOU damn WHITE people!!

Come ON Cracka... you know what he's saying!!

[Amber Lamps]

Just caught a replay of that a couple days ago.

it's easily one of the funniest sketches he did on that show!

[Amber Lamps]

Its not based solely off of rappers. Stop being willfully obtuse.

You just said it was ok for you and not ok for me.

Why is that? Am I a minority now? If so, I would like some preferential treatment please.

Um please quote where I said that it was okay for me to use the word and not you... I said that the use of any derogatory term and whether or not it's offensive can be put down to context.

[Amber Lamps]

You, YOU damn WHITE people!!

Come ON Cracka... you know what he's saying!!

hahahaha! Cracker and honky are two of the funniest racial terms ever! I don't think that I've ever met anyone that was insulted by them.

[marko138]

it's easily one of the funniest sketches he did on that show!

Agree. First season was definately the best.

[Amber Lamps]

Agree. First season was definately the best.

It sucks that he went nuts...

[marko138]

It sucks that he went nuts...
He sure did, didn't he. How can you walk away from that kind of money?

[karl_1052]

Ah come on... I would accept and even respect that if he used that term regardless of race. When you only use it to refer to black people then you are racist. Oh and no, white people can't be niggers. That's a bullshit smokescreen that whites put up to justify their use of the word.In fact, it's almost worse because they then use it to describe white people that act "black"...

As far as "work ethic" goes, white people have consistently employed/forced/coerced minorities to do the hard work in this country. What could possibly be lazier than enslaving another race to do all your work? I have never met a lazier group of people than some of the white folks I've met down here.

My favorite episode of Family Guy...

http://familyguy.watchfullepisodesonline.com/family_guy_season_3_episode_12_to_love_and_die_in_ dixie.html

My favorite quote...

"The deep south? Isn't that the place the black guys are really lazy and the white guys are just as lazy but they're mad at the black people for being so lazy?"

Hahahaha!

nig⋅ger  /ˈnɪgər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [nig-er] Show IPA
Usage note:
The term nigger is now probably the most offensive word in English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years, although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the Revolutionary War. Definitions 1a, 1b, and 2 represent meanings that are deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense. Definition 1a, however, is sometimes used among African-Americans in a neutral or familiar way. Definition 3 is not normally considered disparaging—as in “The Irish are the niggers of Europe” from Roddy Doyle's The Commitments—but the other uses are considered contemptuous and hostile.


Use nigger in a Sentence
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–noun 1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person.
b. a member of any dark-skinned people.

2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.

Looks like dictionary.com disagrees with you 66% pf the time.

[Apoc]

To be fair Karl, whens the last time you heard the word used to describe anything but blacks?

Pig can mean a lot of things too, but when I say it, im usually talking about cops. (For the food, I usually use the PC name, pork!)

[Amber Lamps]

U huh...so because the dictionary doesn't define the word as a "black specific" derogatory term, it isn't and hasn't been used in that manner? Seriously?

Does anyone honestly believe that the word "nigger" is not predominantly used to describe black people regardless of whom is using it, context or to what purpose? What would you expect a dictionary to say?

nig⋅ger  /ˈnɪgər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [nig-er] Show IPA : a term used to describe black people. slang; nigga, nucka, nizzle, etc

Hahahahaha!

[Amber Lamps]

To be fair Karl, whens the last time you heard the word used to describe anything but blacks?

Pig can mean a lot of things too, but when I say it, im usually talking about cops. (For the food, I usually use the PC name, pork!)

That's what makes this so much fun for me. I love reading all of these bs reasons why it's okay for white people to call black people niggers. Hahahahaha!

[Tmall]

I never said that either tig. I said if you can, I can.

If I'm standing by and you call your neighbour, "my nigger" prepare to be insulted because its suddenly going to slip into my vocabulary.

Another fine example, I drove one of my friends to the "black" grocery store. His term, not mine. So, I was pointing out the black coffee shops, black gas station, black stop sign when he realized I was just showing him how dumb he sounded referring to it as the "black" store because its near a black neighbourhood.

But, you did say it was ok for you to say nigger because you're black. You've said it several times in this thread. And you then said it is not ok for me because I'm white.

If you would like, ill gladly quote you when I get to my pc to show you..

[karl_1052]

U huh...so because the dictionary doesn't define the word as a "black specific" derogatory term, it isn't and hasn't been used in that manner? Seriously?

Does anyone honestly believe that the word "nigger" is not predominantly used to describe black people regardless of whom is using it, context or to what purpose? What would you expect a dictionary to say?

nig⋅ger  /ˈnɪgər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [nig-er] Show IPA : a term used to describe black people. slang; nigga, nucka, nizzle, etc

Hahahahaha!

I'm taking it back

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Art/ENTERTAINMENT/Projects/06_SummerMovieGuide/Movies/ClerksII.hmedium.jpg

:rockwoot:

[derf]

I'm taking it back

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Art/ENTERTAINMENT/Projects/06_SummerMovieGuide/Movies/ClerksII.hmedium.jpg

:rockwoot:

Fuck yeh! go whitey!!!!

Incidently I only found out that porch monkey was a pretty racist term, I used to call my friend Rich's lil brother and sister porch monkeys because they wern't allowed off the porch.

[defector]

I am confused. Tigger is half white, yes?

So do you just say "nig" or "ger"? Also if you use the entire word, do you offend your self, and want to kick your own ass? :lol

[Homeslice]

Hell, i remember one member (not sure if it was here or cf) even saying it wasnt ok for white people to sing along to rap music with the word 'nigger' in it... Perfectly ok for them to selll millions of copies of said songs though....

My take on this is, many black people are simply mad that the whole gangsta phenomena is being mocked by white people, laughed at by white people, or easily copied by white people. Not only do you have Andy Samberg & Chris Parnell making fun of it on SNL, but every other white girl on myspace is flashing gang signs and laughing.

[azoomm]

MLK day FTW!! :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

I never said that either tig. I said if you can, I can.

If I'm standing by and you call your neighbour, "my nigger" prepare to be insulted because its suddenly going to slip into my vocabulary.

Another fine example, I drove one of my friends to the "black" grocery store. His term, not mine. So, I was pointing out the black coffee shops, black gas station, black stop sign when he realized I was just showing him how dumb he sounded referring to it as the "black" store because its near a black neighbourhood.

But, you did say it was ok for you to say nigger because you're black. You've said it several times in this thread. And you then said it is not ok for me because I'm white.

If you would like, ill gladly quote you when I get to my pc to show you..

Your post,

"Its not based solely off of rappers. Stop being willfully obtuse.

You just said it was ok for you and not ok for me.

Why is that? Am I a minority now? If so, I would like some preferential treatment please. "

And now you're saying it again, I never said any of that. I said that it's a matter of "context"... You seem to think that if Lil' Wayne or whomever uses the word nigger, that it's okay for you to call every black person on the planet a nigger. I also said that many black people have taken the word and embraced it. I never said that it was "okay" but I will state that even if that is true, it doesn't give you the "right" to call me a nigger. Seriously, I don't care if every other black person on the planet turns to the black person next to them and uses the word, it doesn't make it "acceptable" for you to call me one, period.

If your friends choose to allow you to play these racial word games with them, that is their prerogative. I doubt that if you were on a public bus and one black guy referred to the other as "my nigger" that you would spend the rest of the trip calling them niggers to their faces...

[Amber Lamps]

MLK day FTW!! :lol:

I know right? Hahahaha!

[Amber Lamps]

I am confused. Tigger is half white, yes?

So do you just say "nig" or "ger"? Also if you use the entire word, do you offend your self, and want to kick your own ass? :lol

Huh? Nah, I have this same type of argument with full blooded blacks as well! As my friends know, I've been on the receiving end of some serious discrimination from black people as well. I like having fun with white people on this subject because most aren't openly prejudice. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the word nigger come out of a white guys mouth because they don't realize that I'm part black.

[wildchild]

IC.

Plenty of lazy-assed N-----s up that way. :lol:

And, most of them (if not all back in the day) white.

hey wait a minute. :lol

[Homeslice]

I can't tell you how many times I've heard the word nigger come out of a white guys mouth because they don't realize that I'm part black.

Well, the eastern half of NC isn't known for its cultural progressiveness..

[derf]

I can't tell you how many times I've heard the word nigger come out of a white guys mouth because they don't realize that I'm part black.

Nope i totally knew you were black I just don't care.

[Amber Lamps]

Well, the eastern half of NC isn't known for its cultural progressiveness..

Shit, Michigan was just as bad, if not worse.

Nope i totally knew you were black I just don't care.

whatever, jew boy!

[derf]

Shit, Michigan was just as bad, if not worse.



whatever, jew boy!

I prefer to be called a Jewey Cracker

[marko138]

MLK day FTW!! :lol:

Seriously. The irony is excellent.

[Amber Lamps]

Seriously. The irony is excellent.

Well I doubt that it's MLK day in Canada...

I prefer to be called a Jewey Cracker

How about JewC for short?

[pauldun170]

Slightly back on topic.
Where Tom works, even black people are racist against black people. And Koreans...and Russians....and Spanish people...and Chinese.
It a sub-culture there that just invites others to point and say "You sir do not qualify as my equal....asshole"

[derf]

How about JewC for short?

Werks for me Homie

[CrazyKell]

The irony of the thread title and then some of the posts in this thread is brilliant!

[Amber Lamps]

Slightly back on topic.
Where Tom works, even black people are racist against black people. And Koreans...and Russians....and Spanish people...and Chinese.
It a sub-culture there that just invites others to point and say "You sir do not qualify as my equal....asshole"

Sure, sure, trust me I totally understand that but am I the only one that's noticed that most if not all of his "stupid people at work" threads are about black people? Do you mean to say that no other type of "stupid people" go to the hospital where he works? I know how easy it is to get biased against a certain group if you deal primarily with their more ignorant members from day to day. Just ask any police officer in the hood how he feels about minorities...

[pauldun170]

Sure, sure, trust me I totally understand that but am I the only one that's noticed that most if not all of his "stupid people at work" threads are about black people? Do you mean to say that no other type of "stupid people" go to the hospital where he works? I know how easy it is to get biased against a certain group if you deal primarily with their more ignorant members from day to day. Just ask any police officer in the hood how he feels about minorities...

If its where I think it is...
His numbers work out.


don't get me wrong.

I think there are plenty of open and closet racist on this board. I just don't think there is enough evidence to lump Tom in the same category.
When you work in emergency service such a s med\fire\law enforcement in NYC, you see crap that just leads to words coming out of your mouth that could sound racist or offensive.

[Amber Lamps]

If its where I think it is...
His numbers work out.


don't get me wrong.

I think there are plenty of open and closet racist on this board. I just don't think there is enough evidence to lump Tom in the same category.
When you work in emergency service such a s med\fire\law enforcement in NYC, you see crap that just leads to words coming out of your mouth that could sound racist or offensive.

I definitely agree with this statement! I actually don't think that Tommy is actively racist but I think that he is becoming somewhat biased because of his work situation. Again, I support his right to dislike anyone that he chooses, for any reasons that he chooses. Seriously.

[Amber Lamps]

The irony of the thread title and then some of the posts in this thread is brilliant!

Oh I may be being opinionated but I wouldn't refer to my posts as "ignorant"... Have I mentioned today what nice breasts you have? Growl!!!

[derf]

I definitely agree with this statement! I actually don't think that Tommy is actively racist but I think that he is becoming somewhat biased because of his work situation. Again, I support his right to dislike anyone that he chooses, for any reasons that he chooses. Seriously.

Everybody is racist to some degree weather or not they realize it.

[Amber Lamps]

Everybody is racist to some degree weather or not they realize it.

Truth. I'm completely willing to admit it. Other people not so much...

[pauldun170]

Everybody is racist to some degree weather or not they realize it.

Jews hate white people.
There I said it. It needed to be said.

I'm pretty racist.
I tend to look down on purebreds.

[Amber Lamps]

Jews hate white people.
There I said it. It needed to be said.

I'm pretty racist.
I tend to look down on purebreds.

Me too! I actually feel sorry for them and their monochrome ethnic backgrounds... Have you ever noticed that when someone asked you what your background is and you tell them. They come back with," I'm mixed too, part English and part Irish." Yo chief there's a difference between nationality, religion and race. Hahahaha!

[pauldun170]

Me too! I actually feel sorry for them and their monochrome ethnic backgrounds... Have you ever noticed that when someone asked you what your background is and you tell them. They come back with," I'm mixed too, part English and part Irish." Yo chief there's a difference between nationality, religion and race. Hahahaha!

:lol:

I guess I should be honest here...
One of the big reasons I tend to look down on purebreds is for cleavage shots.

[shmike]

:lol:

I guess I should be honest here...
One of the big reasons I tend to look down on purebreds is for cleavage shots.

Aren't you like 5'8"?

The only purebreds you look down on are 12 year olds.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6954/1188994406433346a87dgi3.jpg

[pauldun170]

Aren't you like 5'8"?

The only purebreds you look down on are 12 year olds.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6954/1188994406433346a87dgi3.jpg

Fuck you asshole.
I'm 5'9













(:lol)

[wildchild]

How about JewC for short?

Tigger if he posts up pics racing a cart with short shorts on that say JewC I'm coming to Carolina and puke in your lunch. :lol

[Tmall]

I never said I would you a nigger tigger.

But, again if you and your neighbour are throwing out the "my nigga" and I throw one out to, is there going to be a problem?


If you come back with, "you can't call me a nigger because a rapper says it" I'm seriously going to question if you're posting from a speak and spell or not..

[Homeslice]

Me too! I actually feel sorry for them and their monochrome ethnic backgrounds... Have you ever noticed that when someone asked you what your background is and you tell them. They come back with," I'm mixed too, part English and part Irish." Yo chief there's a difference between nationality, religion and race. Hahahaha!

What is there to feel sorry about? Because Hollywood and the music industry currently think multiracials are hot? Please, they only care about money, and they know multiracial actors/musicians pull in a wider audience. That does not prove multiracials are "better" or more attractive.

By the way, what if someone is half Greek and half English? Maybe that's not technically "mutiracial" but it's definitely "multicultural". Heck, IMO the difference in personality & culture between a Brit and a Greek is a lot greater than the difference between a White American and a Black American.

[pauldun170]

What is there to feel sorry about? Because Hollywood and the music industry currently think multiracials are hot? Please, they only care about money, and they know multiracial actors/musicians pull in a wider audience. That does not prove multiracials are "better" or more attractive.

By the way, what if someone is half Greek and half English? Maybe that's not technically "mutiracial" but it's definitely "multicultural". Heck, IMO the difference in personality & culture between a Brit and a Greek is a lot greater than the difference between a White American and a Black American.

Oh dear god here we go....

[derf]

Heck, IMO the difference in personality & culture between a Brit and a Greek is a lot greater than the difference between a White American and a Black American.

Try going from the ghetto to the suburbs. It's like comparing the similarities of a car and birdhouse

[Homeslice]

Try going from the ghetto to the suburbs. It's like comparing the similarities of a car and birdhouse

But what if you compare WITHIN the ghetto or the suburbs?

An affluent, suburban Black isn't that much different than an affluent, suburban White.

Some of you guys act like Europeans are all the same, have you ever been over there? The difference between cultures is huge.

[Amber Lamps]

What is there to feel sorry about? Because Hollywood and the music industry currently think multiracials are hot? Please, they only care about money, and they know multiracial actors/musicians pull in a wider audience. That does not prove multiracials are "better" or more attractive.

By the way, what if someone is half Greek and half English? Maybe that's not technically "mutiracial" but it's definitely "multicultural". Heck, IMO the difference in personality & culture between a Brit and a Greek is a lot greater than the difference between a White American and a Black American.

So if I raise a Dalmatian in Scotland, you raise a Dalmatian in England and we breed them, you would consider the puppies "mixed-bred"? Hahahaha!

[Amber Lamps]

But what if you compare WITHIN the ghetto or the suburbs?

An affluent, suburban Black isn't that much different than an affluent, suburban White.

Some of you guys act like Europeans are all the same, have you ever been over there? The difference between cultures is huge.

Have you? I've spent almost 14 years overseas!!! The cultural differences between people do not make them a different race. When you are talking about a mixed breed, it can only occur between two different races. FTR having one parent be Catholic and one be Baptist also doesn't qualify...

Racial differences are purely physical/genetic and have nothing to do with environment. A white kid raised by an African family will still be a white kid and a black kid raised by a couple in Denmark will still be black.

[Homeslice]

Thank you for confirming what I already said :shrug:

I said "Maybe that's not technically "mutiracial" but it's definitely "multicultural"

Culture is what's important, not race. Multiracial people don't impress me, multicultural people do.

[fatbuckRTO]

The cultural differences between people do not make them a different race.But they make for more profound differences in my mind. I don't give a shit what color he is, if a guy walks up toward me in an overly baggy hoody and pants below his butt crack I'm going to guard my wallet. If a guy walks up to me in a polo shirt and khakis I probably won't be so defensive. That I recognize the fact that the former is more likely to be a black guy probably makes me racist in the eyes of many.

Meh.

[Amber Lamps]

I never said I would you a nigger tigger.

But, again if you and your neighbour are throwing out the "my nigga" and I throw one out to, is there going to be a problem?


If you come back with, "you can't call me a nigger because a rapper says it" I'm seriously going to question if you're posting from a speak and spell or not..

If we are buds no...AGAIN it is context that is the reason for anger. If me and the neighbor are "throwing the word nigger around" and you come walking by and say, "Hey, why don't you fucking niggers shut the hell up?!?!" Yes, there will be a problem... Of course the same can be said if you call us any name that WE deem offensive. The listener gets to determine offensiveness not the speaker. If your wife's friend calls her a bitch, she may laugh it off, if you call her a bitch in anger, she may hit you with a frying pan. Same word, different result. I'm sure that you'll try to explain to her that you heard her sister call her a bitch and that makes it okay...

If you are fucking her doggy-style and call her a whore, as in "come get this cock, you whore!" she may enjoy it but if she comes home late and you scream, "where the fuck have you been you dirty whore?"... Well, she may take offense.

[Amber Lamps]

Thank you for confirming what I already said :shrug:

I said "Maybe that's not technically "mutiracial" but it's definitely "multicultural"

Culture is what's important, not race. Multiracial people don't impress me, multicultural people do.

Well la dee da!!!! So the fact that my mother was German and French and my Dad was Creole and Cajun impresses you? How about my command of 3 almost 4 languages? How many languages do you speak? How many different countries have you been to? How many years did you spend there, assuming that you ever been further than Tijuana? Whether you're mixed race or multi cultural is an accident of birth and shouldn't be of any importance either way.

[Amber Lamps]

But they make for more profound differences in my mind. I don't give a shit what color he is, if a guy walks up toward me in an overly baggy hoody and pants below his butt crack I'm going to guard my wallet. If a guy walks up to me in a polo shirt and khakis I probably won't be so defensive. That I recognize the fact that the former is more likely to be a black guy probably makes me racist in the eyes of many.

Meh.

Cool so if a black guy is wearing a polo shirt and khakis, you will be off your guard, right?

ATTENTION my brothers, from now on all muggings and rapes will be performed wearing polo shirts and khakis. That is all...Yo nigga, I said khakis not chinos get it right motherfucker!

[Fleck750]

Never fails to crack me up.

If a black bunny and a white bunny have babies, no one calls them "mixed race" bunnies. Only stupid fucking humans do this shit. We are all humans, just different colors. Shove your differences in peoples faces long enough and people will be against you.

[Amber Lamps]

Never fails to crack me up.

If a black bunny and a white bunny have babies, no one calls them "mixed race" bunnies. Only stupid fucking humans do this shit. We are all humans, just different colors. Shove your differences in peoples faces long enough and people will be against you.

Ah not true, if they are two different breeds of bunny then yes. Have you never heard of a black lab, chocolate lab, etc. Are you saying that all dogs are the same?

[Homeslice]

Whether you're mixed race or multi cultural is an accident of birth and shouldn't be of any importance either way.

Interesting, then why did you say this:

I actually feel sorry for them and their monochrome ethnic backgrounds... Have you ever noticed that when someone asked you what your background is and you tell them. They come back with," I'm mixed too, part English and part Irish." Yo chief there's a difference between nationality, religion and race. Hahahaha!.

Why do you feel sorry for them?

Is there something about being multiracial that gives someone an ace card over someone who is simply multi-national, or even "monochrome" as you put it?

It's like you're saying that people like you who are mixed Black-White or some other racial combination have a leg up on everyone else. I call BS, because what really matters is whether you were exposed to different cultures & values........You could be mixed-race but born & raised in the middle of Nebraska without ever being exposed to any cultural diversity. It's all about the initiative that you take in life. Being mixed-race on the outside (skin-color) doesn't mean shit.

Now, you yourself sound like you have been exposed to a lot, gone to a lot of places and learned a lot, but that doesn't prove everyone who is mixed-race has a leg up on everyone else. That English-Irish monochrome guy you made fun of could have been exposed to more cultural diversity than you have.

[Amber Lamps]

Interesting, then why did you say this:



Why do you feel sorry for them?

Is there something about being multiracial that gives someone an ace card over someone who is simply multi-national, or even "monochrome" as you put it?

It's like you're saying that people like you who are mixed Black-White or some other racial combination have a leg up on everyone else. I call BS, because what really matters is whether you were exposed to different cultures & values........You could be mixed-race but born & raised in the middle of Nebraska without ever being exposed to any cultural diversity. It's all about the initiative that you take in life. Being mixed-race on the outside (skin-color) doesn't mean shit.

Did you happen to notice the "Hahahaha" behind that? Yeesh... I'm sure that you know much more about being muli racial and multi cultural than I do...

[Fleck750]

Ah not true, if they are two different breeds of bunny then yes. Have you never heard of a black lab, chocolate lab, etc. Are you saying that all dogs are the same? Yes, they are all the same. They are dogs. Rabbits are rabbits. Humans are humans.

Can all dogs breed with each other? Yes. Same with rabbits and people.

If two humans mate, they still have a human. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

[Amber Lamps]

Yes, they are all the same. They are dogs. Rabbits are rabbits. Humans are humans.

Can all dogs breed with each other? Yes. Same with rabbits and people.

If two humans mate, they still have a human. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Um yea, and you may be able to mate a chimpanzee to a gorilla but it's not going to be the same as either of the parents...

Dogs aren't dogs, they have various distinct physical traits that set them apart from each other. Just like different races. A little boy from Uganda isn't "exactly" the same as a little boy from Holland... Are boys and girls also exactly the same? Of course not.

[Fleck750]

Tig, I can't help ya anymore. Humans all share the same DNA.

Too bad you can't get past the color thing.

[tommymac]

I definitely agree with this statement! I actually don't think that Tommy is actively racist but I think that he is becoming somewhat biased because of his work situation. Again, I support his right to dislike anyone that he chooses, for any reasons that he chooses. Seriously.

its more the stupidity or the sense of entitlement that gets me going. Working in that neighborhood has been rather interesting actualy, our population is primarily caribeans with some africans, mostly nigerians, african americans then latinos, middle easterners, followed by orthodx/hasidic jews, russians and soem asians. They all have their quirks or things to watch out for and need to be aware of some things, like if a russians in your ER and he even looks remotely sick, hes about to die of something terrible.

Most nights I work the fast track area which in some ways is tougher than the main ER because I need to sort through all the BS that doesnt need to be there to find the one or 2 people that are realy sick and are in need of more immediate care.

When you want ot curse me out because you had to wait 3 hrs for a complaint you had for 3 weeks yeah I may get a little cranky esp if I am doing 5 other things at that time. it can be just as bad in the burbs with all the soccer moms and their sense of entitlement as well. OS what I need to do i smore main Er shifts so we can take care of the realy sick people, plus thats more fun for me since its a challenge and makes me think more.

[pauldun170]

its more the stupidity or the sense of entitlement that gets me going. Working in that neighborhood has been rather interesting actualy, our population is primarily caribeans with some africans, mostly nigerians, african americans then latinos, middle easterners, followed by orthodx/hasidic jews, russians and soem asians. They all have their quirks or things to watch out for and need to be aware of some things, like if a russians in your ER and he even looks remotely sick, hes about to die of something terrible.

Most nights I work the fast track area which in some ways is tougher than the main ER because I need to sort through all the BS that doesnt need to be there to find the one or 2 people that are realy sick and are in need of more immediate care.

When you want ot curse me out because you had to wait 3 hrs for a complaint you had for 3 weeks yeah I may get a little cranky esp if I am doing 5 other things at that time. it can be just as bad in the burbs with all the soccer moms and their sense of entitlement as well. OS what I need to do i smore main Er shifts so we can take care of the really sick people, plus thats more fun for me since its a challenge and makes me think more.

I wonder if there is a ranking somewhere on how it is to deal with certain groups

I personally think soccer moms are worse than anything the ghetto has to offer.

I personally carry a can of 'OFF' just in case I'm cornered.
I've even sprayed my wife on occasion.

[tommymac]

I wonder if there is a ranking somewhere on how it is to deal with certain groups

I personally think soccer moms are worse than anything the ghetto has to offer.

I personally carry a can of 'OFF' just in case I'm cornered.
I've even sprayed my wife on occasion.

I have to concur with ya there, since we moved to seaford I see alot more of that esp with some of our neighbors. I think most are pissed becasue a long haired metal head moved in with a bunch of motorcycles. Good thing they didnt see me bring the snakes in.


Not sure you have to handle groups differently, medically you have to worry about certain predispositions. One example is anyone from bangladesh with chest pain is usualy having a heart attack, no matter how old they just have that bad DNA.

The biggest key with all the groups is just making sure you keep control of the room. Took my lumps in the past learning that, may piss off some people along that way but its a small price to pay because otherwise stuff like this happens.

http://dimewars.com/Video/Brooklyn-Hospital-Brawl----Two-Families-Fighting-inside-Brookdale-Hospital--Caught-on-Tape-.aspx?bcmediaid=b3c5379b-aa01-4152-8a53-24c781419d68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72lDS3VBMlE&feature=related

that was in a hospitsal down the road from us, if yo ucan try to keep things moving or even create the illusion of it will help calm things down but also show youre not going ot take anyones crap either.

[Rangerscott]

Nigger. I said it. It was never a bad word. People just put slang to it.

Read up on it and learn something.


Love the dudes comments in the video. LOL

[Amber Lamps]

Nigger. I said it. It was never a bad word. People just put slang to it.

Read up on it and learn something.


Love the dudes comments in the video. LOL

Look, I have to call BS and pull a "race card" of sorts. White people used the word nigger in a derogatory manner for centuries. You can't just wash that away by saying that it isn't so...

Now on the other hand, I agree with many others, blacks included, that believe that you can't hold on to the past forever. We as a people definitely need to get over it and move on with our lives.

[Rangerscott]

Look, I have to call BS and pull a "race card" of sorts. White people used the word nigger in a derogatory manner for centuries. You can't just wash that away by saying that it isn't so...

Now on the other hand, I agree with many others, blacks included, that believe that you can't hold on to the past forever. We as a people definitely need to get over it and move on with our lives.


It did not start out in a derogatory manner. Just cause people say something for so long does not make it correct. Just like ya'll isn't a word but people use it everyday.

[Amber Lamps]

It did not start out in a derogatory manner. Just cause people say something for so long does not make it correct. Just like ya'll isn't a word but people use it everyday.

Meanings for words are only "correct" because usage makes it so... Dog=a four legged animal because we have decided that it is what it means. There have been many words that have changed meaning over the history of language. Are you honestly saying that the current meaning/usage is invalid because you say so or because there was a previous meaning? Again, cunt, bitch, slut all had different and even innocuous meanings in the past. Usage has changed that.

[Particle Man]

"You did that because I'm black!"

"No, I did it because you're a freakin' RETARD"

The race card drives me crazy.

[Rangerscott]

Meanings for words are only "correct" because usage makes it so... Dog=a four legged animal because we have decided that it is what it means. There have been many words that have changed meaning over the history of language. Are you honestly saying that the current meaning/usage is invalid because you say so or because there was a previous meaning? Again, cunt, bitch, slut all had different and even innocuous meanings in the past. Usage has changed that.


Words do not change. Definitions are added. If you called your grand dad pappa and one day society decides to add another definition to pappa, with it now meaning pedophile, are you going to stop calling your grand dad pappa just cause a group of people think it needs to mean something else?

[Amber Lamps]

Words do not change. Definitions are added. If you called your grand dad pappa and one day society decides to add another definition to pappa, with it now meaning pedophile, are you going to stop calling your grand dad pappa just cause a group of people think it needs to mean something else?

A "group of people"? Go ahead and lie to me, tell me that when you hear the word nigger that you don't immediately think of a black person. If you were standing in a store and someone shouted, "Look out that nigger has a gun!!!" that you wouldn't look for a black guy. Sure, okay...


Denial...

[Rangerscott]

Well of course I would cause nigger is from latin niger which means the color black. Just like Caucasian is to describe someone is white or light tone.

[Amber Lamps]

Well of course I would cause nigger is from latin niger which means the color black. Just like Caucasian is to describe someone is white or light tone.

Oh now wait a minute, so you admit that the word nigger cannot technically be used to describe anyone other than a black person by definition? So what will happen to all of the "there are white niggers" bs that comes out every time there's this type of discussion? By definition ALL black people are niggers is that what you are saying?

Btw pop over to your jacket thread, I want your input on something....

[Rangerscott]

Oh now wait a minute, so you admit that the word nigger cannot technically be used to describe anyone other than a black person by definition? So what will happen to all of the "there are white niggers" bs that comes out every time there's this type of discussion? By definition ALL black people are niggers is that what you are saying?

Btw pop over to your jacket thread, I want your input on something....


That would be in the "what a group thinks." I could care less what a group thinks.

Yes. The word nigger refers to a person with black skin tone. Of course I've always been iffy on the "black" part cause a lot of black people are brown. When I hear black, my brain thinks the color black and I see brown.

The base of the word nigger means black "color." It now depends on what you "add" onto the base definition to make it into something else.

[Amber Lamps]

That would be in the "what a group thinks." I could care less what a group thinks.

Yes. The word nigger refers to a person with black skin tone. Of course I've always been iffy on the "black" part cause a lot of black people are brown. When I hear black, my brain thinks the color black and I see brown.

The base of the word nigger means black "color." It now depends on what you "add" onto the base definition to make it into something else.

U huh... hey go look at these jackets and give me your opinion.

[askmrjesus]

Oh now wait a minute, so you admit that the word nigger cannot technically be used to describe anyone other than a black person by definition? So what will happen to all of the "there are white niggers" bs that comes out every time there's this type of discussion? By definition ALL black people are niggers is that what you are saying?


I think the bigger question is, why is the word still in use at all?

We've been trying to bury the fucker for 40 years now, but it keeps popping back up in Rap and Hip-Hop music.

I understand the premise of "It's OK if I say it", but why would you choose to denigrate yourself in such a way?

If you don't have enough respect for yourself to stop using the term, how can you expect any respect from others?

It makes no sense.

JC

[derf]

Oh now wait a minute, so you admit that the word nigger cannot technically be used to describe anyone other than a black person by definition? So what will happen to all of the "there are white niggers" bs that comes out every time there's this type of discussion? By definition ALL black people are niggers is that what you are saying?

Btw pop over to your jacket thread, I want your input on something....



I am not a nigger I am a knee-grow. get it right

[derf]

A "group of people"? Go ahead and lie to me, tell me that when you hear the word nigger that you don't immediately think of a black person. If you were standing in a store and someone shouted, "Look out that nigger has a gun!!!" that you wouldn't look for a black guy. Sure, okay...


Denial...

Um duh, obvious association.

[Amber Lamps]

Um duh, obvious association.

Yea I know...it's just that some people claim that they don't consider the descriptive of black people, ie "my Grandpa calls white people niggers" but your grandpa was using the word as an insult, basically saying that those white guys were acting like black guys.

[Amber Lamps]

I think the bigger question is, why is the word still in use at all?

We've been trying to bury the fucker for 40 years now, but it keeps popping back up in Rap and Hip-Hop music.

I understand the premise of "It's OK if I say it", but why would you choose to denigrate yourself in such a way?

If you don't have enough respect for yourself to stop using the term, how can you expect any respect from others?

It makes no sense.

JC


I agree with you actually but I honestly don't agree that it's only Rap and Hip hop music keeping the word alive. Maybe, I'm special or something but I hear it used by white guys who wouldn't be caught dead listening to rap music all the time. In fact, just last week I was at my powder coater's shop dropping off some parts and a bunch of white guys were standing around and one of my favorite phrases popped up. "You ain't worth a dog turd in a nigger's back yard!". No rap music was playing...

[askmrjesus]

I agree with you actually but I honestly don't agree that it's only Rap and Hip hop music keeping the word alive. Maybe, I'm special or something but I hear it used by white guys who wouldn't be caught dead listening to rap music all the time. In fact, just last week I was at my powder coater's shop dropping off some parts and a bunch of white guys were standing around and one of my favorite phrases popped up. "You ain't worth a dog turd in a nigger's back yard!". No rap music was playing...

I'm not blaming it all on Rap, there are obviously some people that missed the Civil Rights train, and are still standing on the stupidity platform.

My point is, (some) black people need to stop supporting the assholes that perpetuate the negative stereotypes that encourage racism. It seems counter productive to make Rap "artists" who denigrate women and blacks alike, more money, when you should be boycotting them.

I'm not saying black people all need to wear chinos, and act like poindexters, but a little less "Niggaz and Ho's" would go a long way towards bridging the gap that people like me have been trying to fill since the 70's.

What's a white liberal boy have to do to get some help up in this bitch?

JC

[Amber Lamps]

I'm not blaming it all on Rap, there are obviously some people that missed the Civil Rights train, and are still standing on the stupidity platform.

My point is, (some) black people need to stop supporting the assholes that perpetuate the negative stereotypes that encourage racism. It seems counter productive to make Rap "artists" who denigrate women and blacks alike, more money, when you should be boycotting them.

I'm not saying black people all need to wear chinos, and act like poindexters, but a little less "Niggaz and Ho's" would go a long way towards bridging the gap that people like me have been trying to fill since the 70's.

What's a white liberal boy have to do to get some help up in this bitch?

JC


I totally agree! Unfortunately, white people are actually sliding more towards the hood/gangsta way of speech and mannerisms... I guess that the gap will be bridged one way or another.

[Rangerscott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2awH4mqKP_c&feature=related

[Smittie61984]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2awH4mqKP_c&feature=related

God Damn, Conan is a genius and sucks his show is ending.

Most bigoted people I know are the midtown white yuppies of Atlanta who drive Volvos and have Obama stickers on the back of their car. Watch a black man move into their million dollar neighborhoods and shit hits the fan.

Oh yeah.
George Bush hates black people - Kanye West.

[Riceaholic]

Tom your ER always reminds me of my bar. :lol: That video happens a couple times a week.I'd give my right nut to have the cops show up after two minutes.

[Smittie61984]

Oh now wait a minute, so you admit that the word nigger cannot technically be used to describe anyone other than a black person by definition?

In Pulp Fiction Marcellus called Vincent over by saying "My nigga, get your ass over here". Travolta is white so that is settled. White people can be niggas.

[tommymac]

Tom your ER always reminds me of my bar. :lol: That video happens a couple times a week.I'd give my right nut to have the cops show up after two minutes.

Def makes for interesting shifts, just so long as the shootings stay outside alls good, although our ambulance bay got shot up a few months ago.

The chicks around there fight the guys shoot and stab each other but none of them can shoot straight anyway

[Amber Lamps]

In Pulp Fiction Marcellus called Vincent over by saying "My nigga, get your ass over here". Travolta is white so that is settled. White people can be niggas.

Yes Quentin Tarentino is the final word on the subject.

[Homeslice]

In Pulp Fiction Marcellus called Vincent over by saying "My nigga, get your ass over here". Travolta is white so that is settled. White people can be niggas.

Korean people can too.......watch 2:50 here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hvNi0VZwc8

[Smittie61984]

Korean people can too.......watch 2:50 here


And if you are Jackie Chan you can say what the fuck you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN2LJTCBPtg

[Homeslice]

And a white person getting called it, at 1:00 and 1:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5d8N_Zo2-o&feature=related

[101lifts2]

I'm not blaming it all on Rap, there are obviously some people that missed the Civil Rights train, and are still standing on the stupidity platform.

My point is, (some) black people need to stop supporting the assholes that perpetuate the negative stereotypes that encourage racism. It seems counter productive to make Rap "artists" who denigrate women and blacks alike, more money, when you should be boycotting them.

I'm not saying black people all need to wear chinos, and act like poindexters, but a little less "Niggaz and Ho's" would go a long way towards bridging the gap that people like me have been trying to fill since the 70's.

What's a white liberal boy have to do to get some help up in this bitch?

JC


Exactly....nigga this....nigga that used constantly and they want white people to stop using it?

[Amber Lamps]

Exactly....nigga this....nigga that used constantly and they want white people to stop using it?

I don't care how many movies are made, I don't care if every rapper in the world comes out with a song using the word, I don't even care if every other black person on Earth stand up as one and shouts the word nigger at the top of their lungs for an entire day. Do not presume to call me one. That's all I'm saying. What it boils down to is you all want an excuse to call us niggers. You want to justify it somehow and make it okay. It's not, period.

[Homeslice]

I don't care how many movies are made, I don't care if every rapper in the world comes out with a song using the word, I don't even care if every other black person on Earth stand up as one and shouts the word nigger at the top of their lungs for an entire day. Do not presume to call me one. That's all I'm saying. What it boils down to is you all want an excuse to call us niggers. You want to justify it somehow and make it okay. It's not, period.

I don't think there are very many white people arguing for the right to call a black person that. It's more like arguing for the right for a white person to call another white person that.

[azoomm]

I don't care how many movies are made, I don't care if every rapper in the world comes out with a song using the word, I don't even care if every other black person on Earth stand up as one and shouts the word nigger at the top of their lungs for an entire day. Do not presume to call me one. That's all I'm saying. What it boils down to is you all want an excuse to call us niggers. You want to justify it somehow and make it okay. It's not, period.

Your staunch opposition to it almost makes me want to use it... almost. I won't, if just because I do actually HAVE class.

[derf]

I won't, if just because I do actually HAVE class.

I don't have any I don't mind using it.

What it really comes down to as a society we have determined that it is unnacceptable for us whiteys to say it, but its ok for black folk to say it

[Amber Lamps]

I don't think there are very many white people arguing for the right to call a black person that. It's more like arguing for the right for a white person to call another white person that.

What? Read the thread. The whole argument is, "If you all can say it, then we can say it..." At least one guy was saying that if he was around a couple black guys that use the word, he feels justified in using it too. As in if me, him and another black guy were at my house watching the game. I jump up and go to the fridge. I yell from the kitchen, "Hey you guys want a beer?" The black guy responds, "Hell yea nigga, pass me a cold one!" He thinks that AUTHORIZES him to say, " Get me a beer too, nigger"....um nope. Look, I don't pretend to talk for other black people and quite frankly, I don't care what you call them. If there are 1.5 billion black people in the world, you can call them all niggers minus 1...

[Amber Lamps]

Your staunch opposition to it almost makes me want to use it... almost. I won't, if just because I do actually HAVE class.

I'm not surprised. I lived in Texas and as long as I didn't get too tan, I could hear white people use the word daily to describe almost any black person that crossed their path.

[azoomm]

I don't have any I don't mind using it.

What it really comes down to as a society we have determined that it is unnacceptable for us whiteys to say it, but its ok for black folk to say it

You know what though? It's a cultural issue. I don't even know why there is much of a debate on this. Truly.

This fucking world has gotten entirely TOO careful over who gets to say what - when in fact, it's perfectly OK to be offended at something. There is a time and place for everything. And, while trying to protect the bubble that everyone is in, a few things are just naturally NOT being taught.

One of those things is how to have class. It's something that can't be learned in a book - but, only by living life. If you put the world in a bubble, how do people learn what is and is not appropriate?

[Amber Lamps]

I don't have any I don't mind using it.

What it really comes down to as a society we have determined that it is unnacceptable for us whiteys to say it, but its ok for black folk to say it

Basically the same as when Jewish comedians make fun of other Jews it's okay but if a goyim tries it...well, he'll never work in show business again....unless he's Mel Gibson, of course.

[Amber Lamps]

You know what though? It's a cultural issue. I don't even know why there is much of a debate on this. Truly.

This fucking world has gotten entirely TOO careful over who gets to say what - when in fact, it's perfectly OK to be offended at something. There is a time and place for everything. And, while trying to protect the bubble that everyone is in, a few things are just naturally NOT being taught.

One of those things is how to have class. It's something that can't be learned in a book - but, only by living life. If you put the world in a bubble, how do people learn what is and is not appropriate?

I agree with that but I'm sure that even a classy broad like you will make an offensive comment or two IF she believes that the offended party is not present. Like making cracks about fat people when none are present, for example. Orrrrrrrr pming me to talk shit about someone when you won't say it to them directly. So as long as you don't say it to their faces, it's classy huh?

I think each individual gets to decide what offends them and what doesn't. You, Quentin Tarentino, Little Wayne, Spike Lee or whomever, don't get to decide what I am willing to let anyone call me. I'll make that decision. If I wish to allow every black person to call me a nigger and not allow white people to do it, tough titty! If you want to allow your girlfriends to call you a bitch but smack me if I do, it's your decision. Simple.

[azoomm]

Tigger, it has nothing to do with whether I will or won't say something - and everything to do with time and place. I have one friend I can openly call a cunt - and others that would freak the fuck out if it's even spelled in their presence.

You can be as offended as you want. But, understand this - as long as you get offended, there will be people out there that will say it simply because it makes YOU the crazy one.

[Smittie61984]

I wish there was a guide for honkies on what terms they can use and when it is acceptable. Can I say nigger or nigga if I'm quoting a black comedian? For example "Fuck your couch nigga" from Dave Chappelle. I like saying that when joking around with friends (white, black, asian, or if I'm at Tiger's house Blasian). What if I'm singing some NWA? Do I have to go "Fuck the police comin straight from the underground. A young (pause) got it bad cause I'm brown"? Then what if I'm fighting a person who happens to be black. I HATE anyone I'm in a fight with and if I think calling someone a nigger will make them feel shitier while I beat them up then you are going to see the n-bomb dropped a lot.

Oh yeah, what if I go through my ancestory and find out my great great great grandpa was black? I do not look black but doesn't the 1 drop rule apply? Can I say it then and chill in Compton?

I also refuse to use "African-American" because I have yet to meet a true African-American except for two friends from high school who where whiter than ghosts. Hell, they even called the crotch bomber "African-American".

Jessie, Sharpton, and Dr. Dre need to get on this and clear this shit up for us crackers.

[Homeslice]

What? Read the thread. The whole argument is, "If you all can say it, then we can say it..." At least one guy was saying that if he was around a couple black guys that use the word, he feels justified in using it too. As in if me, him and another black guy were at my house watching the game. I jump up and go to the fridge. I yell from the kitchen, "Hey you guys want a beer?" The black guy responds, "Hell yea nigga, pass me a cold one!" He thinks that AUTHORIZES him to say, " Get me a beer too, nigger"....um nope..

First, he wouldn't say "nigger" he would say "nigga". Big difference.

Only time I hear whites saying "nigger" is if they are a hardcore racist and talking amongst other whites.

"Nigga" is used for a much wider variety of purposes, some deragotory, but other times as a friendly, comical term of endearment, like "yo wassup my niggaz?

In contrast, "nigger" is only used for one purpose -- to spread hate. At least in my experience. :idk: Everyone's experience is different :idk:

That being said, why is it OK for black people to say yo wassup my nigga, but it is not OK for two white people to do it? And no, I'm not saying that a white person should go around saying it to black people....he shouldn't. Unless that black person was a good buddy of his and nobody else was in earshot.

[101lifts2]

I don't care how many movies are made, I don't care if every rapper in the world comes out with a song using the word, I don't even care if every other black person on Earth stand up as one and shouts the word nigger at the top of their lungs for an entire day. Do not presume to call me one. That's all I'm saying. What it boils down to is you all want an excuse to call us niggers. You want to justify it somehow and make it okay. It's not, period.

I'm not gonna call you a nigga. You look pretty big lol ...but dude..my question is why do black people continue to use it? If it's so bad, then they shouldn't be degrading each other for no reason.

[101lifts2]

I wish there was a guide for honkies on what terms they can use and when it is acceptable. Can I say nigger or nigga if I'm quoting a black comedian? For example "Fuck your couch nigga" from Dave Chappelle. I like saying that when joking around with friends (white, black, asian, or if I'm at Tiger's house Blasian). What if I'm singing some NWA? Do I have to go "Fuck the police comin straight from the underground. A young (pause) got it bad cause I'm brown"? Then what if I'm fighting a person who happens to be black. I HATE anyone I'm in a fight with and if I think calling someone a nigger will make them feel shitier while I beat them up then you are going to see the n-bomb dropped a lot.

Oh yeah, what if I go through my ancestory and find out my great great great grandpa was black? I do not look black but doesn't the 1 drop rule apply? Can I say it then and chill in Compton?

I also refuse to use "African-American" because I have yet to meet a true African-American except for two friends from high school who where whiter than ghosts. Hell, they even called the crotch bomber "African-American".

Jessie, Sharpton, and Dr. Dre need to get on this and clear this shit up for us crackers.

I'm rollin here...:lol

First, he wouldn't say "nigger" he would say "nigga". Big difference.

Only time I hear whites saying "nigger" is if they are a hardcore racist and talking amongst other whites.

"Nigga" is used for a much wider variety of purposes, some deragotory, but other times as a friendly, comical term of endearment, like "yo wassup my niggaz?

In contrast, "nigger" is only used for one purpose -- to spread hate. At least in my experience. :idk: Everyone's experience is different :idk:

That being said, why is it OK for black people to say yo wassup my nigga, but it is not OK for two white people to do it? And no, I'm not saying that a white person should go around saying it to black people....he shouldn't. Unless that black person was a good buddy of his and nobody else was in earshot.


It's the exact same reason why blacks can pull the race card and get away with it....Double standard!!!

[Homeslice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzmjGJeBJg

[Amber Lamps]

Tigger, it has nothing to do with whether I will or won't say something - and everything to do with time and place. I have one friend I can openly call a cunt - and others that would freak the fuck out if it's even spelled in their presence.

You can be as offended as you want. But, understand this - as long as you get offended, there will be people out there that will say it simply because it makes YOU the crazy one.

CONTEXT!!! I've said it from the beginning! It's all about context. I keep saying that and people keep trying to come up with reasons why it's okay for a white person to call me a nigger. Rap music, movies, other black people using the word, how I'm dressed, how I carry myself, it's not only a black word, it's original meaning was innocent, etc.

[Amber Lamps]

I'm not gonna call you a nigga. You look pretty big lol ...but dude..my question is why do black people continue to use it? If it's so bad, then they shouldn't be degrading each other for no reason.

Don't look at me, I actually don't use it either when talking to other black people.

[wildchild]

What it boils down to is you all want an excuse to call us niggers. You want to justify it somehow and make it okay. It's not, period.


and the excuse for Honky or cracker is? they are the same as the n word. racial slurs meant to degrade someone because of their race or skin color. Yet those two words are deemed acceptable, no permission needed to say them.
just wondering.

[karl_1052]

What? Read the thread. The whole argument is, "If you all can say it, then we can say it..." At least one guy was saying that if he was around a couple black guys that use the word, he feels justified in using it too. As in if me, him and another black guy were at my house watching the game. I jump up and go to the fridge. I yell from the kitchen, "Hey you guys want a beer?" The black guy responds, "Hell yea nigga, pass me a cold one!" He thinks that AUTHORIZES him to say, " Get me a beer too, nigger"....um nope. Look, I don't pretend to talk for other black people and quite frankly, I don't care what you call them. If there are 1.5 billion black people in the world, you can call them all niggers minus 1...

I thought you were white?:?:

[Tmall]

So, I've talked to a pretty good friend of mine who happens to be "African-Canadian". He said what I said, "Why shouldn't you be able to say it if I can?". Then again, I've never heard him say anything relating to that word.

He then went on to tell me that a black man saying it is worse than a white man saying it. You're making it seem like it's ok for others to use a word that was used to keep your people down. Again his exact words, "If you're around your boys and nobody else, it can be a term of affection. If you're around other people, it's ignorant and rude.".

[Kaneman]

I'm white as white can be. I call all three of my best friend nig, nigga, niggaz or sometimes ninjas which is less of a Japanese Martial Arts connotation and more of another slang for Nigga taken from an old Chris Farley movie. They are white, white, and half Mexican. I do it on the phone everytime they call, I do it when we meet in public and at random times throughout conversations. Sometimes when I do it I may even be wearing a Cowboy Hat and boots because I like to wear them.

I don't give a flying fuck who gets their little panties in a wad if they over hear me. As a lover of Hip-Hop music I feel empowered to use these terms and have been for at least the past 10 years. Would I go up to a black stranger on the street and call him a nigger? No, because I'm not a fucking idiot. Alas, at the same time I would not go up to a stranger on the street and call him Jewey, spicster, wop, frost bite, homie, home slice, home skillet, homigo, or ho. I was fortunate enough to be raised on how to introduce myself to strangers, lol. Thank God I don't need an internet debate for that... :lol:

But, if you're a black person, and you overhear me call my friend a nigga and you're offended....then fuck you. Fuck you and die. Or if you don't want to die then just stop listening and intruding on other people's conversations. I don't care what you think, I don't care what you've been through, I don't give a fuck who your parents were and I definitely don't give a flying rat's ass what you think about society. Stay out of my business and keep walking...it is not worth your life. And to be honest, something said by some honky you don't even know isn't truly worth even a passing though, so go on.

[marko138]

In Pulp Fiction Marcellus called Vincent over by saying "My nigga, get your ass over here". Travolta is white so that is settled. White people can be niggas.

One of my favorite movies.



And I love how Tigger is black when it's convenient and white when it's convenient. It's all for arguements sake!

[Smittie61984]

And I love how Tigger is black when it's convenient and white when it's convenient. It's all for arguements sake!

That'd be awesome. I can be "cool" automatically by being black but when the cops show up I can turn to white and then get police escorts to the KKK rally.

[Smittie61984]

Alas, at the same time I would not go up to a stranger on the street and call him Jewey, spicster, wop, frost bite, homie, home slice, home skillet, homigo, or ho.

Those are some new ones. Thanks!

[pauldun170]

That'd be awesome. I can be "cool" automatically by being black but when the cops show up I can turn to white and then get police escorts to the KKK rally.

Let me be the first to say that having that ability is pretty darn convenient.

[Homeslice]

"Ese" always goes over well.

But, when in doubt, the catch-all "homes" will suffice.

[t-homo]

Look, I'm half white and half black so that means when I grow up, I'll be accepted by everybody.

[Amorok]

Who is frost-bite a derogatory term for?

[tommymac]

Who is frost-bite a derogatory term for?

eskimos??????????

[Kaneman]

Who is frost-bite a derogatory term for?

Illegal Canadian Aliens?

[101lifts2]

...But, if you're a black person, and you overhear me call my friend a nigga and you're offended....then fuck you. Fuck you and die. Or if you don't want to die then just stop listening and intruding on other people's conversations. I don't care what you think, I don't care what you've been through, I don't give a fuck who your parents were and I definitely don't give a flying rat's ass what you think about society. Stay out of my business and keep walking...it is not worth your life. And to be honest, something said by some honky you don't even know isn't truly worth even a passing though, so go on.

:lol

[101lifts2]

Let me be the first to say that having that ability is pretty darn convenient.


It is only convenient if you look white.

[anthonyk]

Who is frost-bite a derogatory term for?

Huskies? :?:

Nice, Kaneman. :lol

[Amber Lamps]

So, I've talked to a pretty good friend of mine who happens to be "African-Canadian". He said what I said, "Why shouldn't you be able to say it if I can?". Then again, I've never heard him say anything relating to that word.

He then went on to tell me that a black man saying it is worse than a white man saying it. You're making it seem like it's ok for others to use a word that was used to keep your people down. Again his exact words, "If you're around your boys and nobody else, it can be a term of affection. If you're around other people, it's ignorant and rude.".

Well then case closed! If your friend told you it was okay them have at it! In fact, why don't you come on down and bring Rangerscott and who ever else wants to come. I'll take you all out to a few clubs and shot houses I go to. I'm sure that you'll hear black people using the "N" word all night and it'll give you the opportunity to try out your theory. Hey, if anyone gets mad, I'm sure that you telling them that your black Canadian buddy said that it was okay will appease them.

I can't say it enough times, I don't care how many black people tell you that it's okay to call THEM a nigger, nigga, nucka, etc. I don't care how many John Singleton movies or episodes of Dave Chappell you watch, I don't care how many rap songs you listen to...you are not authorized to call me a nigger, period. I know that you want to be able to run the country side calling black people niggers again like in the "good old days"...I'm advising you not to try it, but hey you all seem to feel justified, so have at it. I dare you to walk up to some random group of black people, call them niggers and give them the same argument you're giving me.

Once again, the worst insult in the world can be turned into a endearing pet name when used by the right person, in the right context. That does not mean that anyone gets to use it though. What's so hard to understand about that?

[Amber Lamps]

and the excuse for Honky or cracker is? they are the same as the n word. racial slurs meant to degrade someone because of their race or skin color. Yet those two words are deemed acceptable, no permission needed to say them.
just wondering.

Shit, when was the last time someone called you a "Honky"? Hahahahaahahha! I think the difference is that black people didn't enslave white people in this country for hundreds of years while referring to them as "honkys".... Just a guess...

[Amber Lamps]

Look, I'm half white and half black so that means when I grow up, I'll be accepted by everybody.

Depends on the decade. When I was little in the 60s, half breeds were hated by everybody, both parents were sell-outs. In the 70s it lightened up a little bit but there were still factions up north and all out hatred for racial abominations down south. There still is to an extent. The 80s and 90s really started to turn things around and now, shit people are claiming to be mixed that aren't. Qhite frankly, the media has gone a long way towards helping me get laid!!!

[Amber Lamps]

I'm white as white can be. I call all three of my best friend nig, nigga, niggaz or sometimes ninjas which is less of a Japanese Martial Arts connotation and more of another slang for Nigga taken from an old Chris Farley movie. They are white, white, and half Mexican. I do it on the phone everytime they call, I do it when we meet in public and at random times throughout conversations. Sometimes when I do it I may even be wearing a Cowboy Hat and boots because I like to wear them.

I don't give a flying fuck who gets their little panties in a wad if they over hear me. As a lover of Hip-Hop music I feel empowered to use these terms and have been for at least the past 10 years. Would I go up to a black stranger on the street and call him a nigger? No, because I'm not a fucking idiot. Alas, at the same time I would not go up to a stranger on the street and call him Jewey, spicster, wop, frost bite, homie, home slice, home skillet, homigo, or ho. I was fortunate enough to be raised on how to introduce myself to strangers, lol. Thank God I don't need an internet debate for that... :lol:

But, if you're a black person, and you overhear me call my friend a nigga and you're offended....then fuck you. Fuck you and die. Or if you don't want to die then just stop listening and intruding on other people's conversations. I don't care what you think, I don't care what you've been through, I don't give a fuck who your parents were and I definitely don't give a flying rat's ass what you think about society. Stay out of my business and keep walking...it is not worth your life. And to be honest, something said by some honky you don't even know isn't truly worth even a passing though, so go on.

Okay....I personally don't care what you and your friends call each other... Have at it! The argument I'm having is that certain people think that they can call black people niggers because black people use the word in the media, music and their everyday lives... I disagree.

[pauldun170]

It is only convenient if you look white.

Shit..your right

[azoomm]

Okay....I personally don't care what you and your friends call each other... Have at it! The argument I'm having is that certain people think that they can call black people niggers because black people use the word in the media, music and their everyday lives... I disagree.

Who said that where?? what?

[anthonyk]

I know that you want to be able to run the country side calling black people niggers again like in the "good old days"

:lol Okay, now you're just stirring up shit.

[Amber Lamps]

:lol okay, now you're just stirring up shit.

Now?

[Amber Lamps]

Who said that where?? what?

Are you serious? Did you miss the whole "black people use it, why can't we?" and "if I hear two black people use it to refer to each other, then I am too" arguments?

[Rangerscott]

http://www.173rdairborne.net/images/engineers-111-23-Burn-shit.jpg

[Amber Lamps]

http://www.173rdairborne.net/images/engineers-111-23-Burn-shit.jpg

75 away from 10,000!!! w00t!

[Homeslice]

I know that you want to be able to run the country side calling black people niggers again like in the "good old days"...

:rolleyes:

Who the hell said anything even close to that?

I don't see any white person here asking for the right to go up to some random black guy and call him a nigger.

You seem to be saying every white guy who wants to use the word nigga wants to do it because he hates black people and wants to justify using that word as an insult. But actually, more than one person in this thread has talked about using the word as a term of endearment amongst his white buddies. You black people call each other that, so why can't us white people call each other that? Hell, we invented the word in the first place!

[Amber Lamps]

:rolleyes:

Who the hell said anything even close to that?

I don't see any white person here asking for the right to go up to some random black guy and call him a nigger.

You seem to be saying every white guy who wants to use the word nigga wants to do it because he hates black people and wants to justify using that word as an insult. But actually, more than one person in this thread has talked about using the word as a term of endearment amongst his white buddies. You black people call each other that, so why can't us white people call each other that? Hell, we invented the word in the first place!

Dude, this thread is played out and won't come close to giving me the 70 or so posts I need...

Look here's the thing, for hundreds of years white people used the word nigger as a derogatory term for black people. Now that we have managed to take that word and give it a somewhat cool, "positive" and almost camaraderie-like meaning, you want to take it back? Fuck you! I'll tell ya what, you can have "wigger" that's our final offer!

[Dragonpaco]

Dude, this thread is played out and won't come close to giving me the 70 or so posts I need...

Look here's the thing, for hundreds of years white people used the word nigger as a derogatory term for black people. Now that we have managed to take that word and give it a somewhat cool, "positive" and almost camaraderie-like meaning, you want to take it back? Fuck you! I'll tell ya what, you can have "wigger" that's our final offer!

you can keep nigger, but we want porch monkey, jiggaboo and spook in return.

[Homeslice]

Look here's the thing, for hundreds of years white people used the word nigger as a derogatory term for black people. Now that we have managed to take that word and give it a somewhat cool, "positive" and almost camaraderie-like meaning, you want to take it back? Fuck you! I'll tell ya what, you can have "wigger" that's our final offer!

:lol:

'Cept I think we invented that one too redflip :lol

[wildchild]

Shit, when was the last time someone called you a "Honky"? Hahahahaahahha! I think the difference is that black people didn't enslave white people in this country for hundreds of years while referring to them as "honkys".... Just a guess...


honky? it's been a couple years. Cracker it's been less then a month. I work in a very "diverse" section of town.

slavery as the excuse that it's wrong for the n word but not the cracker honky combo is very weak. you can't use slavery as an excuse for every thing blacks do wrong and everything they consider offensive by whites.
cracker/honky is meant to so the exact same thing as n word. degrade someone, so is it ok for blacks to degrade whites but not the other way around?

[derf]

I don't see any white person here asking for the right to go up to some random black guy and call him a nigger.


I am the random classless white dude that wants permission to go up to random black dudes and say that.
Oh and you can keep jiggaboo, sounds too much like jitterbug which is either a cell phone with really big buttons or a dance from the 50's. Jiggaboo isn't mean enough for my tastes.

[karl_1052]

It is only convenient if you look white.

He looks like a white Orlando Bloom.:lol:

[Tmall]

Well then case closed! If your friend told you it was okay them have at it! In fact, why don't you come on down and bring Rangerscott and who ever else wants to come. I'll take you all out to a few clubs and shot houses I go to. I'm sure that you'll hear black people using the "N" word all night and it'll give you the opportunity to try out your theory. Hey, if anyone gets mad, I'm sure that you telling them that your black Canadian buddy said that it was okay will appease them.

I can't say it enough times, I don't care how many black people tell you that it's okay to call THEM a nigger, nigga, nucka, etc. I don't care how many John Singleton movies or episodes of Dave Chappell you watch, I don't care how many rap songs you listen to...you are not authorized to call me a nigger, period. I know that you want to be able to run the country side calling black people niggers again like in the "good old days"...I'm advising you not to try it, but hey you all seem to feel justified, so have at it. I dare you to walk up to some random group of black people, call them niggers and give them the same argument you're giving me.

Once again, the worst insult in the world can be turned into a endearing pet name when used by the right person, in the right context. That does not mean that anyone gets to use it though. What's so hard to understand about that?


There's this thing called equality. You might have heard of it. It might have a little something to do with your history.

I've even taken the time to look it up for you. http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Aequality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


I never said I wanted to call anybody a nigger. I said, if you're ignorant enough to use it, expect ignorance in return.

You can call it "your" word all you want. It doesn't make it any better or worse. You might have this stupid idea that turning the most hate filled word in the english language into a pet name for your friends is somehow showing the man what's what. It's idiotic no matter who uses it.

Are we on the same page yet?

[marko138]

I'm white as white can be. I call all three of my best friend nig, nigga, niggaz or sometimes ninjas which is less of a Japanese Martial Arts connotation and more of another slang for Nigga taken from an old Chris Farley movie. They are white, white, and half Mexican. I do it on the phone everytime they call, I do it when we meet in public and at random times throughout conversations. Sometimes when I do it I may even be wearing a Cowboy Hat and boots because I like to wear them.

I don't give a flying fuck who gets their little panties in a wad if they over hear me. As a lover of Hip-Hop music I feel empowered to use these terms and have been for at least the past 10 years. Would I go up to a black stranger on the street and call him a nigger? No, because I'm not a fucking idiot. Alas, at the same time I would not go up to a stranger on the street and call him Jewey, spicster, wop, frost bite, homie, home slice, home skillet, homigo, or ho. I was fortunate enough to be raised on how to introduce myself to strangers, lol. Thank God I don't need an internet debate for that... :lol:

But, if you're a black person, and you overhear me call my friend a nigga and you're offended....then fuck you. Fuck you and die. Or if you don't want to die then just stop listening and intruding on other people's conversations. I don't care what you think, I don't care what you've been through, I don't give a fuck who your parents were and I definitely don't give a flying rat's ass what you think about society. Stay out of my business and keep walking...it is not worth your life. And to be honest, something said by some honky you don't even know isn't truly worth even a passing though, so go on.
Post of the CENTURY.

[askmrjesus]

You can call it "your" word all you want. It doesn't make it any better or worse. You might have this stupid idea that turning the most hate filled word in the english language into a pet name for your friends is somehow showing the man what's what. It's idiotic no matter who uses it.


We have a BINGO!!!

JC

[Kaneman]

Tigga, can I call you my nigga?

[z06boy]

Wow what a thread !! Several post I agree with and several I don't. Some are just out right :rofl: !!

I don't really think anyone regardless of color shoud be using the "N" word but that's just my opinion. I don't understand blacks calling each other that either if the word is supposed to be sooooo bad. :idk: However if they want to...so be it...fine with me. :idk:

No I wouldn't call Tig or any other person that unless it's one of my very close personal friends and we are just joking around and even then would be a rarity....again...I don't really think anyone should be using the word.

Now having said this I don't like when a black person has called me white boy...cracka...or honkey in the past...oh my...I'm offended !! :idk: SO I will admit...call me that and then I may throw the N word your way or call you a black boy...just to pizz you off like you just did me...on purpose and yes I know if I say it I'd better be ready and if I've reached the point to say it...believe me...I've hit the point that I am ready. At this point I'm hoping to pizz you off. In my opinion...it goes both ways.

I've never owned a slave...don't know anyone that has and I don't know anyone that has ever been a slave.

Funny how whites can't use the N word or call a black man a boy but it's ok for blacks to call whites anything they want. :wtfru:

Does not compute.

[Rider]

Can't we all just get along? http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2009/09/rodney-king.jpg

[Amber Lamps]

honky? it's been a couple years. Cracker it's been less then a month. I work in a very "diverse" section of town.

slavery as the excuse that it's wrong for the n word but not the cracker honky combo is very weak. you can't use slavery as an excuse for every thing blacks do wrong and everything they consider offensive by whites.
cracker/honky is meant to so the exact same thing as n word. degrade someone, so is it ok for blacks to degrade whites but not the other way around?

Nope, I never said that it's "okay", if someone calls you a cracker, you have my permission to sock them in there motherfucking mouth!!! See, here's the thing, as far as I know, this isn't a "legal" debate, you can do whatever you want. If you want to call black people niggers, be my guest. I don't care. If black people want to run around and call white people crackers, again go for it. Personally, if we aren't friends, I don't recommend that anyone calls me anything but my name.

[Amber Lamps]

I am the random classless white dude that wants permission to go up to random black dudes and say that.
Oh and you can keep jiggaboo, sounds too much like jitterbug which is either a cell phone with really big buttons or a dance from the 50's. Jiggaboo isn't mean enough for my tastes.

Hey go for it! I bet you'll get another beat down like you got from that bitch on New Years!!!

[Amber Lamps]

you can keep nigger, but we want porch monkey, jiggaboo and spook in return.


That's cool, as long as you don't try to take jungle bunny or spook!!!

[Amber Lamps]

There's this thing called equality. You might have heard of it. It might have a little something to do with your history.

I've even taken the time to look it up for you. http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Aequality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


I never said I wanted to call anybody a nigger. I said, if you're ignorant enough to use it, expect ignorance in return.

You can call it "your" word all you want. It doesn't make it any better or worse. You might have this stupid idea that turning the most hate filled word in the english language into a pet name for your friends is somehow showing the man what's what. It's idiotic no matter who uses it.

Are we on the same page yet?


U huh... That's not what you said and you know it. Look, if you and one of your friends are at the bar and call each other "faggot" does that authorize anyone that overheard the exchange to call you both faggots? THAT is what you are saying and I disagree. Just because I allow a friend, relative, or any random person to demean me does not give you the right to demean me as well.

Context, man. Are you really trying to tell me that you and your friends never call each other names that might have resulted in a fight were it some random stranger? Is this concept this hard to understand? If black people want to allow other black people to call them nigger, don't they have that right? Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion? If me and Derf are at Mc Donalds and he flicks a french fry at me, I'll laugh because we are friends. If a hot chick does it, I may smile and go and get her number. If you throw food at me, I'll probably get up and attempt to beat the shit out of you. It's the same thing, I get to decide what my response will be. You don't get to insult me in any way and then decide what I'm allowed to feel or do about it. Dude, you can do whatever you want, as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions. Now are we on the same page?

[Homeslice]

U huh... That's not what you said and you know it. Look, if you and one of your friends are at the bar and call each other "faggot" does that authorize anyone that overheard the exchange to call you both faggots? THAT is what you are saying and I disagree. Just because I allow a friend, relative, or any random person to demean me does not give you the right to demean me as well.

Context, man. Are you really trying to tell me that you and your friends never call each other names that might have resulted in a fight were it some random stranger? Is this concept this hard to understand? If black people want to allow other black people to call them nigger, don't they have that right? Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion? If me and Derf are at Mc Donalds and he flicks a french fry at me, I'll laugh because we are friends. If a hot chick does it, I may smile and go and get her number. If you throw food at me, I'll probably get up and attempt to beat the shit out of you. It's the same thing, I get to decide what my response will be. You don't get to insult me in any way and then decide what I'm allowed to feel or do about it. Dude, you can do whatever you want, as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions. Now are we on the same page?


I agree with everything here. But again, you're talking about a stranger calling another stranger a name. What if 2 white or latino friends want to call each other niggaz? What is the problem with that?

[anthonyk]

Makes sense to me, Tigger.

But I gotta say that the whole "reclaiming the word and turning it into a positive" is :bs: As long as a word is in common usage, it's going to take a lot longer to forget where it came from. It doesn't lose its power or some crap like that. All its racist baggage just gets dragged on into the future. Stop using it, and it fades into irrelevancy.

[Tmall]

U huh... That's not what you said and you know it. Look, if you and one of your friends are at the bar and call each other "faggot" does that authorize anyone that overheard the exchange to call you both faggots? THAT is what you are saying and I disagree. Just because I allow a friend, relative, or any random person to demean me does not give you the right to demean me as well.

Context, man. Are you really trying to tell me that you and your friends never call each other names that might have resulted in a fight were it some random stranger? Is this concept this hard to understand? If black people want to allow other black people to call them nigger, don't they have that right? Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion? If me and Derf are at Mc Donalds and he flicks a french fry at me, I'll laugh because we are friends. If a hot chick does it, I may smile and go and get her number. If you throw food at me, I'll probably get up and attempt to beat the shit out of you. It's the same thing, I get to decide what my response will be. You don't get to insult me in any way and then decide what I'm allowed to feel or do about it. Dude, you can do whatever you want, as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions. Now are we on the same page?

We have one rule in my group of friends. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. I think it applies here as well.

If my friends and I are cutting each other down and you come into the conversation and start doing it to, we wouldn't care. We don't need to come up with a bullshit reason to pick a fight. We don't have chips on our shoulders which means we've been in very few altercations.

To sum it up, we don't need a bullshit reason to be pissed off. We have absolutely nothing to prove.

[Amber Lamps]

I agree with everything here. But again, you're talking about a stranger calling another stranger a name. What if 2 white or latino friends want to call each other niggaz? What is the problem with that?


Umm...I never said that I have a problem with that, just the opposite. I don't care what you call other people, who does? I have been and only will be concerned with what you call me. If you read my posts, I have repeatedly put my responses in the first person. I do not claim authority to allow or disallow what you can and cannot say to other black people. If anything, I have attempted to explain why some black people allow their compatriots to refer to them as niggers. Again, all I can say is context.

Oh btw, in reference to your example, the only thing about those situations that tends to irritate me, is when the two parties notice that I am within earshot and give me that, "oops sorry" look. Basically, they've just referenced me as a nigger.

[Amber Lamps]

Makes sense to me, Tigger.

But I gotta say that the whole "reclaiming the word and turning it into a positive" is :bs: As long as a word is in common usage, it's going to take a lot longer to forget where it came from. It doesn't lose its power or some crap like that. All its racist baggage just gets dragged on into the future. Stop using it, and it fades into irrelevancy.

Okay I disagree and I'll give you a few examples;

Motherfucker: at one time, the use of this word meant literally, one who has intercourse with his mother and has been the cause of many, many fights and perhaps even deaths.

Punk: at one time this word was synonymous with homosexual and it's use would immediately result in a fight. My father hated that word and would beat your ass if caught using it.

There are several others. In a way, the more it's used the LESS power it has imho. Watch TV and count how many words that are common place now that wouldn't have been allowed 20-40 years ago. Heck, kids barely get in trouble for saying shit, dick or asshole anymore.

[Amber Lamps]

We have one rule in my group of friends. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. I think it applies here as well.

If my friends and I are cutting each other down and you come into the conversation and start doing it to, we wouldn't care. We don't need to come up with a bullshit reason to pick a fight. We don't have chips on our shoulders which means we've been in very few altercations.

To sum it up, we don't need a bullshit reason to be pissed off. We have absolutely nothing to prove.

See, context again.. Now you're talking about a group of "friends", before you were talking about random people. Dishing it out amongst friends and taking shit from some random dude are two totally different things. Besides, I don't believe that you and your buddies could be hanging out at the bar and some dude can walk up and say, "Hey you faggots get the fuck out of my way!" and you won't care because you all had just been calling each other gay a minute ago... Hmmm then again maybe you would now that I think about it.

[anthonyk]

Okay I disagree and I'll give you a few examples;

Motherfucker: at one time, the use of this word meant literally, one who has intercourse with his mother and has been the cause of many, many fights and perhaps even deaths.

Punk: at one time this word was synonymous with homosexual and it's use would immediately result in a fight. My father hated that word and would beat your ass if caught using it.

There are several others. In a way, the more it's used the LESS power it has imho. Watch TV and count how many words that are common place now that wouldn't have been allowed 20-40 years ago. Heck, kids barely get in trouble for saying shit, dick or asshole anymore.

Yeah, I get the idea that words change meaning over time. But neither of those words were kept alive (as it were) by the groups they originally targeted. Over time, the association just got lost, because people stopped using it in anything close to its original context.

In this case, not only is the word still around, but the idea that it refers to black folks is also being kept intact. That's a dumb idea, in my opinion.

[pauldun170]

I'm glad that I'm part of that group of people that calls people by their first names.
I'd be embarrased to use slang or nicknames in public.

I've worked hard for my elitist label

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah, I get the idea that words change meaning over time. But neither of those words were kept alive (as it were) by the groups they originally targeted. Over time, the association just got lost, because people stopped using it in anything close to its original context.

In this case, not only is the word still around, but the idea that it refers to black folks is also being kept intact. That's a dumb idea, in my opinion.

Good point! I'm not sure that any black people are running around and claiming that white people can't call each other niggers... I'm not sure if any black people would be offended by that...maybe, I don't know. All I said was that regardless of the circumstances, you can't call me one. Even if I did allow my boy Derf to call me one. Even if I have Lil Wayne blaring from my stereo. Even if you just got done watching the last Spike Lee joint. Etc.

[marko138]

See, context again.. Now you're talking about a group of "friends", before you were talking about random people. Dishing it out amongst friends and taking shit from some random dude are two totally different things. Besides, I don't believe that you and your buddies could be hanging out at the bar and some dude can walk up and say, "Hey you faggots get the fuck out of my way!" and you won't care because you all had just been calling each other gay a minute ago... Hmmm then again maybe you would now that I think about it.
I see you are trying like hell to get to 10k posts. Multi-quote FTW, fella.

[wildchild]

Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion?

ok so how long do i have to be friends with you before i get the obligatory permission? and exactly how will that permission be handed down? i mean do you just look over and go "hey man it's cool if you call me n now?"

ok i'm just bullshitting with you now. :rockwoot:

[Amber Lamps]

I see you are trying like hell to get to 10k posts. Multi-quote FTW, fella.

I know right?!?

[Amber Lamps]

ok so how long do i have to be friends with you before i get the obligatory permission? and exactly how will that permission be handed down? i mean do you just look over and go "hey man it's cool if you call me n now?"

ok i'm just bullshitting with you now. :rockwoot:

Yea, I never allow people to call me a nigger. When they do, I check them every time.

[Rider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqqMchhUkw

[askmrjesus]

I know right?!?

Quality>Quantity?

Or is it the other way around?

I'm always getting those little arrows confused...

JC

[Amber Lamps]

Quality>Quantity?

Or is it the other way around?

I'm always getting those little arrows confused...

JC

Hmm... well, it is hard to say. In my defense, I very rarely post one or two word replies. The single smilie or "this" post is definitely not a "quality" post IMHO. Regarding whether or not my posts are worth reading...Well, there's always ignore.

[derf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqqMchhUkw

Yeh but it was written by THE black guy

[askmrjesus]

Hmm... well, it is hard to say. In my defense, I very rarely post one or two word replies.

You call that a defense? :lol:

JC

[Amber Lamps]

You call that a defense? :lol:

JC

Well, maybe next time I'll hire...oh wait he's dead... Well, I'll just have to hire a lawyer or something... hmmm....maybe you're right.... ignore this part.


:lol: (there that's better!)

[wildchild]

Yea, I never allow people to call me a nigger. When they do, I check them every time.


Yikes, 21 pages and you still didn't make 10 grand. we're gonna have to start another toic, this one's getting worn out.

[marko138]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqqMchhUkw

Another classic.

[Amber Lamps]

Yikes, 21 pages and you still didn't make 10 grand. we're gonna have to start another toic, this one's getting worn out.

I know right? Hmmm.... GSXRs are for squids? Nah... I'll think of something!

[tommymac]

I know right? Hmmm.... GSXRs are for squids? Nah... I'll think of something!

They cant be I have 2 of them right now :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

They cant be I have 2 of them right now :lol:

Then you are a double squid!!! Sorry dude, but owning a GSXR automatically makes you a SQUID!!! Just like owning Ed Hardy jeans automatically makes you a douche! No exceptions, motherfucker!!!

[karl_1052]

They cant be I have 2 of them right now :lol:

Squid.
:lol

[z06boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqqMchhUkw

:lol: First thing I thought of when I saw how this thread was going.