Any interest in a fitness forum on here?

[Captain Morgan]

I know Apoc would like to see one and I could sure use the info he can provide. Anybody else interested in having a fitness forum on this site?

[CrazyKell]

There was one on that old forum.....I liked it. :idk:

[Rider]

Yes and I already PM'd Trip to set one up. We definitely have enough interest.

[Captain Morgan]

There was one on that old forum.....I liked it. :idk:

Yeah, Apoc mentioned it in the "throwback pepsi" thread

Yes and I already PM'd Trip to set one up. We definitely have enough interest.

Excellent. Hope he sets one up, and hope this thread shows how much interest we have in it.

[marko138]

We had more than enough interest in a SuperMoto forum too...but did we get that? No. :lol: Good luck, kids.

[karl_1052]

Just make all the fitness threads in the supermoto forum.

redflip

[marko138]

Just make all the fitness threads in the supermoto forum.

redflip
Which would equal zero threads. :lol:

[Flexin]

Yes. :rockwoot:

James

[Cutty72]

Will it do my workout for me?
And will it still give me the gains I'm looking for? If so then YES!

Actually I'm pretty good on my P90X workout. I know I could do a lot better if I would modify my diet, but I like what I like far too much! :lol:

[marko138]

Will it do my workout for me?
And will it still give me the gains I'm looking for? If so then YES!

Actually I'm pretty good on my P90X workout. I know I could do a lot better if I would modify my diet, but I like what I like far too much! :lol:
What is this p90x shit I hear about?

[smileyman]

Yeah I wanted to do the P90x thing, at least bust the 90 day trial to see what was what. I still have 3-4 weeks to go on my arm before i can try to regain all the ground I have lost with my 16 weeks layoff due to the crash.

[Trip]

We had more than enough interest in a SuperMoto forum too...but did we get that? No. :lol: Good luck, kids.

have you looked at the forum list lately?

[derf]

have you looked at the forum list lately?

Haha douche

[karl_1052]

What is this p90x shit I hear about?

just download the torrent. It is a workout/diet/aerobics exercise video system that costs lots of money.

[Cutty72]

What is this p90x shit I hear about?

It is an exercise program. 90 day routine mixing up all different muscle groups. I'm on day 38 now and I can see a difference already.
They recommend that you also follow their prescribed diet, and use their energy bars/recovery drink. I do not do these things.
Made me realize that you don't need a bunch of weights, and heavy weights to really work your body.
Nice thing is you work how YOU want to. If you want lean, less weight, more reps. Build mass, heavy weight, less reps. Also, many of the exercises have "modified" moves for those that can't do it the "right" way to start.

The reason this works best for me is it gives me things that I HAVE to do when I'm in the gym. Otherwise I just wander around and do a little of this and a little of that, not really accomplishing anything.

The website for it is www.beachbody.com

http://www.weightloss-hq.biz/weight-loss-forum/p90x-forum/p90x-classic-routine-excel-spread-sheet.html
This is a link to a forum where a guy made an interactive Excel spreadsheet to track your progress.
If you know what the exercises are, you don't even need the vids. They do help for the Cardio workouts though, and to explain what some of the exercises are.

[dReWpY]

have you looked at the forum list lately?

burn

[Rider]

Boss says no so we clog up the off topic shit with it. :idk:

[TYEster]

We had more than enough interest in a SuperMoto forum too...but did we get that? No. :lol: Good luck, kids.

Checking "stunting"

[tommymac]

It is an exercise program. 90 day routine mixing up all different muscle groups. I'm on day 38 now and I can see a difference already.
They recommend that you also follow their prescribed diet, and use their energy bars/recovery drink. I do not do these things.
Made me realize that you don't need a bunch of weights, and heavy weights to really work your body.
Nice thing is you work how YOU want to. If you want lean, less weight, more reps. Build mass, heavy weight, less reps. Also, many of the exercises have "modified" moves for those that can't do it the "right" way to start.

The reason this works best for me is it gives me things that I HAVE to do when I'm in the gym. Otherwise I just wander around and do a little of this and a little of that, not really accomplishing anything.

The website for it is www.beachbody.com

http://www.weightloss-hq.biz/weight-loss-forum/p90x-forum/p90x-classic-routine-excel-spread-sheet.html
This is a link to a forum where a guy made an interactive Excel spreadsheet to track your progress.
If you know what the exercises are, you don't even need the vids. They do help for the Cardio workouts though, and to explain what some of the exercises are.


Is this something you can do if you dont have a typical schedule/routine? I had been meaning to look into it a ssomething to help me loose some weight and get stronger for track season, but with my wacky schedule with the side jobs its kinda tough to do a set routine.

[101lifts2]

It is an exercise program. 90 day routine mixing up all different muscle groups. I'm on day 38 now and I can see a difference already.
They recommend that you also follow their prescribed diet, and use their energy bars/recovery drink. I do not do these things.
Made me realize that you don't need a bunch of weights, and heavy weights to really work your body.
Nice thing is you work how YOU want to. If you want lean, less weight, more reps. Build mass, heavy weight, less reps. Also, many of the exercises have "modified" moves for those that can't do it the "right" way to start.

The reason this works best for me is it gives me things that I HAVE to do when I'm in the gym. Otherwise I just wander around and do a little of this and a little of that, not really accomplishing anything.

The website for it is www.beachbody.com

http://www.weightloss-hq.biz/weight-loss-forum/p90x-forum/p90x-classic-routine-excel-spread-sheet.html
This is a link to a forum where a guy made an interactive Excel spreadsheet to track your progress.
If you know what the exercises are, you don't even need the vids. They do help for the Cardio workouts though, and to explain what some of the exercises are.

Yes we need a forum.

This post is the exact reason we need a forum...so I can chew stupid routines apart!:lol

[defector]

Here was the P90X workout for me today: Chest/Back (after about 5 or so minutes of stretching) 12 reps each
1. Standard pushups
2. Wide front pull ups
3. Military pushups
4. Reverse grip chin pull ups

2 mins ballistic stretches

5. Wide fly push ups
6. Closed grip overhand pull ups
7. Decline push ups
8. Heavy pant

2 mins mini stretch

9. Diamond push ups
10. Lawnmower (max reps)
11. Dive bomber pushups
12. Back fly

Repeat 12 exercises, but sequence is now 2, 1, 4, 3, 6, 5, 8, 7, 10, 9, 12, 11

Good workout, or garbage?

[TYEster]

Yes we need a forum.

All of these posts are the exact reason we need a forum...

I second the motion that it's merited.

[Particle Man]

drank beer and ate ice cream this evening. :lol:

[racedoll]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the prospects of having a fitness forum to see the "progress" of the Femmes.

[TYEster]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the prospects of having a fitness forum to see the "progress" of the Femmes.

No one knows about the "fit femmes" because not many guys can see that section.

[Sean]

What's wrong with p90x?

[racedoll]

No one knows about the "fit femmes" because not many guys can see that section.

OK. Never mind. I am too tired to explain, just that it isn't about the non-existent femmes section.

[Apoc]

Now that you brought it up, you should post some pictures of your sexy self :P

[marko138]

have you looked at the forum list lately?

You tell me, have I?

[Apoc]

have you looked at the forum list lately?

So, you did that...

Now...

Fitness and gaming forum, chop chop, get on it....

[LeeNetworX]

Here was the P90X workout for me today: Chest/Back (after about 5 or so minutes of stretching) 12 reps each
1. Standard pushups
2. Wide front pull ups
3. Military pushups
4. Reverse grip chin pull ups

2 mins ballistic stretches

5. Wide fly push ups
6. Closed grip overhand pull ups
7. Decline push ups
8. Heavy pant

2 mins mini stretch

9. Diamond push ups
10. Lawnmower (max reps)
11. Dive bomber pushups
12. Back fly

Repeat 12 exercises, but sequence is now 2, 1, 4, 3, 6, 5, 8, 7, 10, 9, 12, 11

Good workout, or garbage?

Skipped on the ab exercises?

[Mr Lefty]

anyone do any running or this fitness forum just for wieght lifting?

I'll be starting the P90x again next week... started it a couple months ago but injured my shoulder pretty good and had to stop.

as for running, I'm gonna run the Air Force Marathon in Sep so I'm training for that...

did 14 miles last week... my goal is 20 a week... but I just went to nights, hard to get on schedule...

[LeeNetworX]

anyone do any running or this fitness forum just for wieght lifting?

I'm putting in around 10 miles a week on the treadmill; working on making that 15-20.

[Rider]

I lift and do some sort of cardio. I spend 45 minutes on the elliptical machine and I play basket ball for 2 hrs 2 nights a week.

[smileyman]

Before I busted my clavicle I was doing 5K every morning, but I lost so much weight I had to cut back to 4 times per week...

[Cutty72]

Is this something you can do if you dont have a typical schedule/routine? I had been meaning to look into it a ssomething to help me loose some weight and get stronger for track season, but with my wacky schedule with the side jobs its kinda tough to do a set routine.

As long as you can dedicate 60 min (not counting time to change/shower etc) for a workout, 6 days a week, then yes, it will work for you.
It doesn't matter WHEN you do it, just that you get it done.

[Cutty72]

Yes we need a forum.

This post is the exact reason we need a forum...so I can chew stupid routines apart!:lol

Well, we seem to be discussing it here anyway, so tear it apart.
I would like to know what is wrong with it...

It works well for me because it gives direction, and keeps me on track and honest.
Otherwise, I just wander around the gym, do a couple sets of curls, check out the one chick in the gym, look at the bench and decide its too much work to put weights on the bar, get on the treadmill and run .25 miles before I remember I hate running on treadmills, check out the chick again, drink some water, do 50 sit ups while staring at the chick doing squats in front of me, look at the dip machine, talk to a buddy about the chick, wish they had more/better machines that I wouldn't use anyway, grab some dumbbells and not really do anything with them, check out chick again, weigh myself and cuss that I'm not losing weight, and then leave.
All in all, both take about the same amount of time, but one is a far better workout.

[marko138]

Well, we seem to be discussing it here anyway, so tear it apart.
I would like to know what is wrong with it...

It works well for me because it gives direction, and keeps me on track and honest.
Otherwise, I just wander around the gym, do a couple sets of curls, check out the one chick in the gym, look at the bench and decide its too much work to put weights on the bar, get on the treadmill and run .25 miles before I remember I hate running on treadmills, check out the chick again, drink some water, do 50 sit ups while staring at the chick doing squats in front of me, look at the dip machine, talk to a buddy about the chick, wish they had more/better machines that I wouldn't use anyway, grab some dumbbells and not really do anything with them, check out chick again, weigh myself and cuss that I'm not losing weight, and then leave.
All in all, both take about the same amount of time, but one is a far better workout.
:lol

[Cutty72]

anyone do any running or this fitness forum just for wieght lifting?

I'll be starting the P90x again next week... started it a couple months ago but injured my shoulder pretty good and had to stop.

as for running, I'm gonna run the Air Force Marathon in Sep so I'm training for that...

did 14 miles last week... my goal is 20 a week... but I just went to nights, hard to get on schedule...

ugh, running, how I hate thee.
Necessary evil it is though, so I will get back into it once it decides to be a bit nicer out. With all the rain/snow we've been getting it's a slippery sloppy mess out there!

My goal is to be able to run all the way around Camp Bondsteel before we leave (about 7 miles, lots of hills)

[Krabill]

I run on a treadmill. I do about 2.5 miles 5 or 6 days a week in the evenings. I'll probably up that to 3 miles a day here in the next week or so.

I was doing 3 miles a day last summer right up until I broke my arm. That really put an end to all things physical for me for quite a while. I've just recently been good enough to start it all back up again. It's coming slowly, but it's coming back.

[smileyman]

I can get addicted to running, especially when I see my times dropping. I think I had my 5K down to 27 minutes, slow to some but flying to me. Problem was that I neglected my workouts to do it and lost alot of the weight I was trying to turn into muscle...

[Rider]

I can get addicted to running, especially when I see my times dropping. I think I had my 5K down to 27 minutes, slow to some but flying to me. Problem was that I neglected my workouts to do it and lost alot of the weight I was trying to turn into muscle...

I ran a 5K last summer. There was some young douchebags who ran it in under 14 minutes. :tremble: That's twice as fast as I can do it. Fucking punks. LOL

[smileyman]

I ran a 5K last summer. There was some young douchebags who ran it in under 14 minutes. :tremble: That's twice as fast as I can do it. Fucking punks. LOL

Yeah but those fast guys look like the swapped legs with an ostrich and got cheated out of their ass. My wife likes some meat with her 'tatos if'n ya know what I mean.

[racedoll]

anyone do any running or this fitness forum just for wieght lifting?

I'll be starting the P90x again next week... started it a couple months ago but injured my shoulder pretty good and had to stop.

as for running, I'm gonna run the Air Force Marathon in Sep so I'm training for that...

did 14 miles last week... my goal is 20 a week... but I just went to nights, hard to get on schedule...

I use the SmartCoach on www.runnersworld.com. It is nice because you plug in all your information and it tells you when to run, how far, and how fast. The other stuff is left up to you.

ugh, running, how I hate thee.
Necessary evil it is though, so I will get back into it once it decides to be a bit nicer out. With all the rain/snow we've been getting it's a slippery sloppy mess out there!

My goal is to be able to run all the way around Camp Bondsteel before we leave (about 7 miles, lots of hills)

This is my off season so I've started swimming. I think it gives you a great workout and has helped drop my running times. Also necessary since I'm training for a triathlon in June.

[JoJoYZF]

I ran a 5K last summer. There was some young douchebags who ran it in under 14 minutes. :tremble: That's twice as fast as I can do it. Fucking punks. LOL

Thats flying. I used to do them in the low 19s in cross country but I was never too fast with distances. I could run for 10-15 miles depending on the workout but my most competitive times were always in middle distance races like the 800m.

[CrazyKell]

5K in 14 minutes? Holy shiat!!!!!

[Homeslice]

Problem was that I neglected my workouts to do it and lost alot of the weight I was trying to turn into muscle...

Technically you can't turn fat into muscle.......It either just sits there or gets burned for fuel......it can't get "transformed" into muscle.

[Mr Lefty]

I can get addicted to running, especially when I see my times dropping. I think I had my 5K down to 27 minutes, slow to some but flying to me. Problem was that I neglected my workouts to do it and lost alot of the weight I was trying to turn into muscle...

yeah I get addicted to running... after about a week of solid running at least every other day... I feel bad on the days I don't run...


I use the SmartCoach on www.runnersworld.com. It is nice because you plug in all your information and it tells you when to run, how far, and how fast. The other stuff is left up to you.

I have the nike+ system it's pretty cool... I'm learning alot about how I run... like I run the same pace for 3 miles as I do 10 miles... a 8'45 mile... :idk:

in HS I could do the two miler in the 9'40 range... but that speed is long gone.

now I just wanna qualify for the Boston Marathon before I turn 35.

[marko138]

I hate running. I do it occasionally, but I really hate it.

[copperheadresort]

Any of you close to Blairsville, we are having a St. Patty's 5K on Saturday, March 13th - information on the website, or PM me here. This year is just the inaugural, but if the county goes wet this year - the 2nd annual will be the one you will not want to miss!!! Can you say Irish Wakes?

[tommymac]

I hate running. I do it occasionally, but I really hate it.

When the cops are chasing you :lol:

[racedoll]

I have the nike+ system it's pretty cool... I'm learning alot about how I run... like I run the same pace for 3 miles as I do 10 miles... a 8'45 mile... :idk:

now I just wanna qualify for the Boston Marathon before I turn 35.

I'm kind of the same way with my pace. I can run a 10K at the same pace as my 5K. I tell myself all the time after doing a half marathon that a 5K is nothing and I can run much faster than I do. WTF?

Good for you! I have no desire to do more than a half marathon but if someone else wants to run farther, then go for it. A good friend of mine went to California in early December for a 100 MILE trail run. I told her that she is nuts.

[defector]

Skipped on the ab exercises?

No, did those after. 11 minutes of hate...
Was just curious as to whether people more knowledgable than I think that is a worthwhile workout or not.

[defector]

As long as you can dedicate 60 min (not counting time to change/shower etc) for a workout, 6 days a week, then yes, it will work for you.
It doesn't matter WHEN you do it, just that you get it done.

I don't know about anybody else, but if I work out after 4PM, I have a hard time sleeping. Doesn't matter if it's just running on the treadmill, or a full on workout.

[Flexin]

I don't know about anybody else, but if I work out after 4PM, I have a hard time sleeping. Doesn't matter if it's just running on the treadmill, or a full on workout.

I don't find that it effects me. I have done hill sprints just before bed. I have also workout on my heavy bag and lifed an hour before going to bed. Last week I was trying to relax myself at the hospital so I went for a jog then went to sleep not long after getting back.

James

[LeeNetworX]

I don't know about anybody else, but if I work out after 4PM, I have a hard time sleeping. Doesn't matter if it's just running on the treadmill, or a full on workout.

I sleep great if I workout in the afternoons after work.

[Krabill]

I don't know about anybody else, but if I work out after 4PM, I have a hard time sleeping. Doesn't matter if it's just running on the treadmill, or a full on workout.

The only free time I have is after the kids go to bed. I hit the treadmill, take a shower and go to bed. I have no problems sleeping.

[marko138]

When the cops are chasing you :lol:

Gotta keep in shape!

[HurricaneHeather]

I only run when chased. Even then, I try to find a place to hide first. :shrug:

My hip hurts...exercise scares me now. :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

I'm kind of the same way with my pace. I can run a 10K at the same pace as my 5K. I tell myself all the time after doing a half marathon that a 5K is nothing and I can run much faster than I do. WTF?

Good for you! I have no desire to do more than a half marathon but if someone else wants to run farther, then go for it. A good friend of mine went to California in early December for a 100 MILE trail run. I told her that she is nuts.

you should check out this dude
http://www.ultramarathonman.com/flash/

dean k... something or other... he's called the ultramarathon man... (ultra marathon is a 100miles) but the furthest he's run in a single go with out stopping ish 350 miles... took him 3 days... and he fell asleep running twice! :lol:

crazy story.

I don't know that I'll ever run the Boston Marathon... but it'd be cool to qualify. ya know?

but as of today I've never ran a race (apart from x country in HS) and the 10.35 miles I ran the other day... is the furthest I've ran since HS. I've never ran over 15 in my life... but I also don't feel like I HAVE to stop at 10... I feel like i have plenty left... so who knows...

[smileyman]

Technically you can't turn fat into muscle.......It either just sits there or gets burned for fuel......it can't get "transformed" into muscle.

Sure can turn muscle to fat though, LoL!

[racedoll]

I'm kind of the same way with my pace. I can run a 10K at the same pace as my 5K. I tell myself all the time after doing a half marathon that a 5K is nothing and I can run much faster than I do. WTF?

Good for you! I have no desire to do more than a half marathon but if someone else wants to run farther, then go for it. A good friend of mine went to California in early December for a 50 MILE trail run. I told her that she is nuts.

Correction it was a 50 MILE trail run not 100 mile. Not sure where I got that from.... either way is too damn far.

you should check out this dude
http://www.ultramarathonman.com/flash/

dean k... something or other... he's called the ultramarathon man... (ultra marathon is a 100miles) but the furthest he's run in a single go with out stopping ish 350 miles... took him 3 days... and he fell asleep running twice! :lol:

crazy story.

I don't know that I'll ever run the Boston Marathon... but it'd be cool to qualify. ya know?

but as of today I've never ran a race (apart from x country in HS) and the 10.35 miles I ran the other day... is the furthest I've ran since HS. I've never ran over 15 in my life... but I also don't feel like I HAVE to stop at 10... I feel like i have plenty left... so who knows...

That guy is nuts! I've probably ran 14 miles or so as my farthest between a warm up and then a half. Couldn't walk after my 1st half marathon, but have trained better since then and do OK afterward.

[101lifts2]

Here was the P90X workout for me today: Chest/Back (after about 5 or so minutes of stretching) 12 reps each
1. Standard pushups
2. Wide front pull ups
3. Military pushups
4. Reverse grip chin pull ups

2 mins ballistic stretches

5. Wide fly push ups
6. Closed grip overhand pull ups
7. Decline push ups
8. Heavy pant

2 mins mini stretch

9. Diamond push ups
10. Lawnmower (max reps)
11. Dive bomber pushups
12. Back fly

Repeat 12 exercises, but sequence is now 2, 1, 4, 3, 6, 5, 8, 7, 10, 9, 12, 11

Good workout, or garbage?

The main problem is there is too much volume, unless you plan on doing this once every 2-3 weeks. That and the fact that this is no loading phase or progression if you are going to continue on this path.

Most of these PX90 guys are fat...and this is exactly what it is targeted towards....super high reps/sets where the goal is to burn as many calories as possible within the gym time at the expense of muscle. But why? The reason for lifting isn't to burn calories, it's to build muscle. You burn calories by doing low intensity cardio in the AM and designing your diet around it. You should be sipping on a carb drink during your lifting.

Someone who is fairly lean wanting to build muscle will get little to nothing out of PX90..but again that is not it's intention, since if you want to make money you need to target the masses who can see gains quicker.

There are much better plans to loosing weight, gaining muscle etc..than alot of generic get ripped in 90 days scams.

[101lifts2]

Well, we seem to be discussing it here anyway, so tear it apart.
I would like to know what is wrong with it...

It works well for me because it gives direction, and keeps me on track and honest.
Otherwise, I just wander around the gym, do a couple sets of curls, check out the one chick in the gym, look at the bench and decide its too much work to put weights on the bar, get on the treadmill and run .25 miles before I remember I hate running on treadmills, check out the chick again, drink some water, do 50 sit ups while staring at the chick doing squats in front of me, look at the dip machine, talk to a buddy about the chick, wish they had more/better machines that I wouldn't use anyway, grab some dumbbells and not really do anything with them, check out chick again, weigh myself and cuss that I'm not losing weight, and then leave.
All in all, both take about the same amount of time, but one is a far better workout.

Well your problem is research. It's a "better" workout for you because you have no clue what to do, but in the grand scheme of things it sucks.

Get a body building online personal trainer that will give you diet and exercise help. Try to go for a year and ask everything. This way, things can be tweaked (diet wise and routines) to help you get to your goals.

[101lifts2]

Sure can turn muscle to fat though, LoL!

No...can't do that either. Fat is fat homeboy.

[Mr Lefty]

The main problem is there is too much volume, unless you plan on doing this once every 2-3 weeks. That and the fact that this is no loading phase or progression if you are going to continue on this path.

Most of these PX90 guys are fat...and this is exactly what it is targeted towards....super high reps/sets where the goal is to burn as many calories as possible within the gym time at the expense of muscle. But why? The reason for lifting isn't to burn calories, it's to build muscle. You burn calories by doing low intensity cardio in the AM and designing your diet around it. You should be sipping on a carb drink during your lifting.

Someone who is fairly lean wanting to build muscle will get little to nothing out of PX90..but again that is not it's intention, since if you want to make money you need to target the masses who can see gains quicker.

There are much better plans to loosing weight, gaining muscle etc..than alot of generic get ripped in 90 days scams.

spoken like someone who's never tried P90x... not saying it's god's gift... but it's obvious you've not even tried it.

they stress that if you want bulk to do no more than 10 reps... and you should be struggling to get that last two or three... if you want definition... do 15-16.

like I said... P90x may not work for everyone... but it's not a scam just to loose weight.

[Flexin]

spoken like someone who's never tried P90x... not saying it's god's gift... but it's obvious you've not even tried it.

they stress that if you want bulk to do no more than 10 reps... and you should be struggling to get that last two or three... if you want definition... do 15-16.

like I said... P90x may not work for everyone... but it's not a scam just to loose weight.

I agree. I like P90X. Its not for everyone but I think its a good program.

James

[Rider]

Well your problem is research. It's a "better" workout for you because you have no clue what to do, but in the grand scheme of things it sucks.

Get a body building online personal trainer that will give you diet and exercise help. Try to go for a year and ask everything. This way, things can be tweaked (diet wise and routines) to help you get to your goals.

So tell me this then. I have been lifting for years and I am pretty bulky. I want to cut up but I don't want to loose any muscle, just define what I have. What is the best routine for me? Last week I switched my program to do 4 sets of 20, doing 4 exercises per body part working each body part twice a week.

[Trip]

I did the Wii Fit last night, it told me I was old, so I threw it out the window. Bitch...

[marko138]

I did the Wii Fit last night, it told me I was old, so I threw it out the window. Bitch...
:lol:

[karl_1052]

I did the Wii Fit last night, it told me I was old, so I threw it out the window. Bitch...

I just bought a new talking scale, so I went to try it out last night.

It said to me, "One at a time, please."

[TYEster]

So tell me this then. I have been lifting for years and I am pretty bulky. I want to cut up but I don't want to loose any muscle, just define what I have. What is the best routine for me? Last week I switched my program to do 4 sets of 20, doing 4 exercises per body part working each body part twice a week.

Your routine should almost stay the same.

It's the diet that dictates your weight gain/loss.

[101lifts2]

spoken like someone who's never tried P90x... not saying it's god's gift... but it's obvious you've not even tried it.

they stress that if you want bulk to do no more than 10 reps... and you should be struggling to get that last two or three... if you want definition... do 15-16.

like I said... P90x may not work for everyone... but it's not a scam just to loose weight.

It is a spinoff of Crossfit...which has been dissected as being pretty much lame, which I studied awhile ago.

And what does reps by themselves mean anyway? It is loading that matters...and volume work should be done minimally unless you are on gear. This is the biggest mistake most lifters make. The do a ton of work (like a 100 reps of something) and their diet is utter crap.

[Mr Lefty]

It is a spinoff of Crossfit...which has been dissected as being pretty much lame, which I studied a well awhile ago.

And what does reps by themselves mean anyway? It is loading that matters...and volume work should be done minimally unless you are on gear. This is the biggest mistake most lifters make. The do a ton of work (like a 100 reps of something) and their diet is utter crap.

again... read the program... YOU SET THE WEIGHT to what you want... if you want bulk you pick a weight that you will struggle to lift 10 times... if you want definition... you pick something you will do 20 times..

there isn't a single work out (save Ab Ripper) that you do over 50 reps of anything...

for me cause I'm trying for a little bulk... I do reps of 12... and only do two sets of a single movement... you do one full pass of all movements then repeat. so at most... I'm doing 24 reps of each movement.

[101lifts2]

So tell me this then. I have been lifting for years and I am pretty bulky. I want to cut up but I don't want to loose any muscle, just define what I have. What is the best routine for me? Last week I switched my program to do 4 sets of 20, doing 4 exercises per body part working each body part twice a week.

AM cardio with a glass of water for 45 minutes (5% incline @3.0mph) on a treadmill 4-5 times a week. This will shred fat off of you. Do NOT do high intensity cardio as you are trying to reduce fat, not increase cardiovascular fitness with this.

Then...your diet needs to come down to higher protein, lower carb intake and carbs focused around lifting time.

[TYEster]

AM cardio with a glass of water for 45 minutes (5% incline @3.0mph) on a treadmill 4-5 times a week. This will shred fat off of you. Do NOT do high intensity cardio as you are trying to reduce fat, not increase cardiovascular fitness with this.

Then...your diet needs to come down to higher protein, lower carb intake and carbs focused around lifting time.

Quick note before I start cutting again...

Would you recommend or suggest any BCAAs or even stimulants prior to AM cardio? Or can I wing it with just the water?

[101lifts2]

again... read the program... YOU SET THE WEIGHT to what you want... if you want bulk you pick a weight that you will struggle to lift 10 times... if you want definition... you pick something you will do 20 times..

there isn't a single work out (save Ab Ripper) that you do over 50 reps of anything...

for me cause I'm trying for a little bulk... I do reps of 12... and only do two sets of a single movement... you do one full pass of all movements then repeat. so at most... I'm doing 24 reps of each movement.

Well I didn't read it because I don't want to pay for it....but from just the stuff someone posted about doing 100 sets of pullups with different arm spacing and the same with pushups seems quite "generic". And moreso retarded. It's a recipe for very quick plateuing.

There has to be an association between stuff as follows:

1. How much weight is done?
2. How many sets?
3. How many reps?
4. Tempo of the reps (explosive positive, slow negative)?
5. Pause at the bottom?
6. What exercises do you do with others to synergize muscle groups and the order they are done in the workout.
7. When do exercises come around again in future workouts?
8. When do you deload (take time off)?
9. When do you throw out exercises in replace of others?
10. If you are struggling moving up in a weight, how you do target strength to break that next barrier?
11. How often is a routine changed?

Then there is the whole diet thing.....

The system is too generic IMO...but to each his own.

[101lifts2]

Quick note before I start cutting again...

Would you recommend or suggest any BCAAs or even stimulants prior to AM cardio? Or can I wing it with just the water?

No stimulants during AM cardio....you shouldn't really take those anyway. There is little to no gain taking them during a lifting event.

Being enhanced you don't need BCAAs during low intensity AM cardio.

[TYEster]

No stimulants during AM cardio....you shouldn't really take those anyway. There is little to no gain taking them during a lifting event.

Being enhanced you don't need BCAAs during low intensity AM cardio.

I'm not enhanced, and probably won't be till later this year when I get serious about competing. In the meantime I'm tired of looking like a powerlifter, plus the extra weight savings will come handy on the MX track.

[101lifts2]

I'm not enhanced, and probably won't be till later this year when I get serious about competing. In the meantime I'm tired of looking like a powerlifter, plus the extra weight savings will come handy on the MX track.

Dude you don't need it, but it isn't going to hurt.

[Mr Lefty]

Well I didn't read it because I don't want to pay for it....but from just the stuff someone posted about doing 100 sets of pullups with different arm spacing and the same with pushups seems quite "generic". And moreso retarded. It's a recipe for very quick plateuing.

There has to be an association between stuff as follows:

1. How much weight is done?
2. How many sets?
3. How many reps?
4. Tempo of the reps (explosive positive, slow negative)?
5. Pause at the bottom?
6. What exercises do you do with others to synergize muscle groups and the order they are done in the workout.
7. When do exercises come around again in future workouts?
8. When do you deload (take time off)?
9. When do you throw out exercises in replace of others?
10. If you are struggling moving up in a weight, how you do target strength to break that next barrier?
11. How often is a routine changed?

Then there is the whole diet thing.....

The system is too generic IMO...but to each his own.

that's the thing... you do the same work out for four weeks... then the program changes.... then again it changes in 4 weeks... it's based on muscle confusion... to help eliminate plateauing.

[TYEster]

Dude you don't need it, but it isn't going to hurt.

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=15586

166... I missed the lightweight cutoff by a measly .73 pound(s), and the next competitor closest to me was 182.

Never again!

[101lifts2]

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=15586

166... I missed the lightweight cutoff by a measly .73 pound(s), and the next competitor closest to me was 182.

Never again!

Yeah you've showed me that before...you look good for your first comp, though it's amazing at what some lighting and tan in a bottle can do. lol

I would suggest that you do not blow up like a ballon and then have to shred fat off. It is simply too hard to not burn muscle. Stay around 13-17%bf at a max.

[101lifts2]

that's the thing... you do the same work out for four weeks... then the program changes.... then again it changes in 4 weeks... it's based on muscle confusion... to help eliminate plateauing.

Does the weight/rep scheme change everytime the exercise comes around again? Or do you just see if you can do 120 pullups instead of the 100?

[Mr Lefty]

yes... You change it depending on what you can do. It forces you to challenge yourself. Yes you could do the same reps same weight every time but there would be no point... And that would be YOUR fault not the programs... Ya know?

[101lifts2]

yes... You change it depending on what you can do. It forces you to challenge yourself. Yes you could do the same reps same weight every time but there would be no point... And that would be YOUR fault not the programs... Ya know?


I see.....however, you know that most people just need to be told what to do instead of giving them a program and say just lift what you want. They need guidance...hence the need for a trainer.

[Captain Morgan]

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=15586

166... I missed the lightweight cutoff by a measly .73 pound(s), and the next competitor closest to me was 182.

Never again!

How tall are you?

[TYEster]

How tall are you?

5'11.537261478261478013264786213" I think? Not quite 6'.

[Mr Lefty]

I see.....however, you know that most people just need to be told what to do instead of giving them a program and say just lift what you want. They need guidance...hence the need for a trainer.

but again... the issue isn't with the program it's with the individual and motivation...

[101lifts2]

but again... the issue isn't with the program it's with the individual and motivation...

No it's still the program too...:lol

Ur right tho...dedication and consistency (esp. with diet) are 2-3 times more important than the actual lifting routine.

You have to admit tho...I can assure you bodybuilders are not using P90x, though that may not be your ultimate goal.

If I could get say a free copy of said P90x I'd love to read it (or even try it for a few cycles).

[Mr Lefty]

No it's still the program too...:lol

Ur right tho...dedication and consistency (esp. with diet) are 2-3 times more important than the actual lifting routine.

You have to admit tho...I can assure you bodybuilders are not using P90x, though that may not be your ultimate goal.

If I could get say a free copy of said P90x I'd love to read it (or even try it for a few cycles).


ehh I don't think you can blame a lack of motivation on the program :2cents:

but yeah... P90x isn't designed for bodybuilders... and that's DEFINITELY not my goal... far from it. I don't really care how I look... it's more about being physically fit and being able to move my body weight around.


oh and you can get a copy of P90X on torrents pretty easy

[Kerry_129]

it's more about being physically fit and being able to move my body weight around.


Ditto that - and lugging around as little flabby gut as I can (I'm not especially vain, but I do cringe when I see the 'pooch' I never used to have :lol:). Getting old sucks! :tremble: I'm lucky that I had/have a decent 'baseline', but I've been too lazy for 8 years or so. I finally began to get my thumb out over the past year or so, and recently started making a much harder honest effort at getting back in much better shape (with better flexibility/back-health). Feels good! :rockwoot:

I'd definitely be interested in learning whatever I could to put together a more time & effort-effective workout routine. :yes:

[karl_1052]

No it's still the program too...:lol

Ur right tho...dedication and consistency (esp. with diet) are 2-3 times more important than the actual lifting routine.

You have to admit tho...I can assure you bodybuilders are not using P90x, though that may not be your ultimate goal.

If I could get say a free copy of said P90x I'd love to read it (or even try it for a few cycles).

Download the torrent, that is what I did.

[Rider]

AM cardio with a glass of water for 45 minutes (5% incline @3.0mph) on a treadmill 4-5 times a week. This will shred fat off of you. Do NOT do high intensity cardio as you are trying to reduce fat, not increase cardiovascular fitness with this.

Then...your diet needs to come down to higher protein, lower carb intake and carbs focused around lifting time.

I already have a high protien low carb, low fat diet. After my AM cardio I drink a blend of cassien, soy and whey protien(26grams) by EAS. For lunch, Ill have a grapefruit and 4 oz piece of chicken breast. For dinner, I'll have either fish, chicken or steak and very little vegetables and nothing else. Then around 8pm Ill drink another protein shake. That's all I eat now. Probably 75% of my caloric intake in protein.

[marko138]

My biggest problem is my diet. I am a really picky eater...I hate most food. I love junk food. I'm trying though.

[Rider]

My biggest problem is my diet. I am a really picky eater...I hate most food. I love junk food. I'm trying though.

Just stay away from white flour, potatoes, corn, saturated fats, and high fructose corn syrup and you should be ok.

[marko138]

Just stay away from white flour, potatoes, corn, saturated fats, and high fructose corn syrup and you should be ok.
I love potatoes...but the rest is no big deal. Well, I love bread too...white bread, rolls, etc.

[Rider]

I love potatoes...but the rest is no big deal. Well, I love bread too...white bread, rolls, etc.

Stop. Potatoes and white bread are the worst.

[Trip]

My biggest problem is my diet. I am a really picky eater...I hate most food. I love junk food. I'm trying though.

I know you are probably like me too, a lot of food really upsets my stomach. Junk food doesn't, so I know that is a safe food to eat and not get all fucked up.

[Rider]

I know you are probably like me too, a lot of food really upsets my stomach. Junk food doesn't, so I know that is a safe food to eat and not get all fucked up.

You're from the south, just throw some gravy on it and it's golden. :lol The lack of cholesterol its probably what makes your stomach upset.

[fatburg]

also do the P90x, I have been doing it for about 4 weeks now, hell of a workout. But honestly, I miss pushing the iron around. Gonna do a 12-week transformation workout starting Monday to keep me in check, gotta get off the lbs I have put on since being back in KC.

[Cutty72]

Stop. Potatoes and white bread are the worst.

That's why I eat fries.
They're not potatoes anymore after you deep fry 'em :lol:

[Trip]

You're from the south, just throw some gravy on it and it's golden. :lol The lack of cholesterol its probably what makes your stomach upset.

I am not a big fan of gravy. I like my food to have flavor. Don't lump us Cajuns in with these bland Southern Folk. We have better food than both of you.

No the reason, my stomach upsets with certain food is IBS.

[101lifts2]

I already have a high protien low carb, low fat diet. After my AM cardio I drink a blend of cassien, soy and whey protien(26grams) by EAS. For lunch, Ill have a grapefruit and 4 oz piece of chicken breast. For dinner, I'll have either fish, chicken or steak and very little vegetables and nothing else. Then around 8pm Ill drink another protein shake. That's all I eat now. Probably 75% of my caloric intake in protein.

Don't be afraid to add in some good fats. Fats will aid in the digestion of proteins. Also, you should eat 6 times a day. You can add carbs in in the AM or load them up every 3 days. You need carbs on occasin or you are going to have thyroid issues.

[101lifts2]

Stop. Potatoes and white bread are the worst.

Potatoes are great post workout.....white bread is crap tho.

[marko138]

I'm not gonna stop eating white bread. Wheat sucks.

[Homeslice]

I'm not gonna stop eating white bread. Wheat sucks.

Srsly?

White bread just sticks to the roof of your mouth. No taste either.

I do like sourdough though, if that's what you mean.

My favorite though is pumperknickel, or black russian. Can't ever find the shit though.

[marko138]

Srsly?

White bread just sticks to the roof of your mouth. No taste either.

I do like sourdough though, if that's what you mean.

My favorite though is pumperknickel, or black russian.
I like sourdough...but I hate wheat. So if I'm having a sandwich I'm getting white bread.

[Trip]

Srsly?

White bread just sticks to the roof of your mouth. No taste either.

I do like sourdough though, if that's what you mean.

My favorite though is pumperknickel, or black russian. Can't ever find the shit though.

I can eat the shit out of sourdough. I do like a good homemade french bread though.

[Homeslice]

I can eat the shit out of sourdough. I do like a good homemade french bread though.

Problem with French is it gets hard & stale so fast. Kind of like their women.

[Apoc]

Srsly?

White bread just sticks to the roof of your mouth. No taste either.

I do like sourdough though, if that's what you mean.

My favorite though is pumperknickel, or black russian. Can't ever find the shit though.

Agreed. Pumperknickel rye is by far my fave ourite bread. I hate whole grain and the like though. There are some amazing breads out there that are both healthy and nutritious.

I have never tried black russian, but now I want to.

[Apoc]

Nothing better than moms fresh homeade white bread though!

[Homeslice]

Agreed. Pumperknickel rye is by far my fave ourite bread. I hate whole grain and the like though. There are some amazing breads out there that are both healthy and nutritious.

I have never tried black russian, but now I want to.

It's like what they serve at Outback Steakhouse, but heavier and more flavor. They never sell it at regular groceries, just russian stores or sometimes a jewish place

It's cut pretty small, so it's kind of useless for sandwiches.....Which is probably better that way, because otherwise I'd eat too much of it. These days I usually use tortillas if I want to wrap up a bunch of food quick & easy. Bread becomes too much of a good thing, too much carbs, and you have to pay up the ass for the good kind anyway.

[Flexin]

What are some people eating for meals after cutting out bread? I did that a couple of years ago and dropped about 5 pounds or so in less then a month from that alone. I forget what I even ate at the time.

James

[TYEster]

What are some people eating for meals after cutting out bread? I did that a couple of years ago and dropped about 5 pounds or so in less then a month from that alone. I forget what I even ate at the time.

James

Potatoes, green vegetables, and rice for me.

[Rider]

Don't be afraid to add in some good fats. Fats will aid in the digestion of proteins. Also, you should eat 6 times a day. You can add carbs in in the AM or load them up every 3 days. You need carbs on occasin or you are going to have thyroid issues.

I take Omege 3 vitamins and I eat plenty of albacore tuna so I think I'm getting enough good fat from those things.

[Homeslice]

Potatoes, green vegetables, and rice for me.

How are you making your potatoes? Just boiling or baking them?

[fatburg]

Starting my new 12-week program today, lifting and eating right. My goal is to drop 25lbs by my trip to Florida in July. It's freakin on like Donkey Kong! No white bread and potatoes for me.

[Rider]

Starting my new 12-week program today, lifting and eating right. My goal is to drop 25lbs by my trip to Florida in July. It's freakin on like Donkey Kong! No white bread and potatoes for me.

Not just white bread, white flower of ANY kind should be off limits.

[fatburg]

Not just white bread, white flower of ANY kind should be off limits.

yep, no bleached flour, and try to stay away from flour all together if I can

[TYEster]

How are you making your potatoes? Just boiling or baking them?

Mainly baked... Via the microwave 5min > 1hr in the oven.

Otherwise "fried" in nonstick spray in a pan.

[Homeslice]

Mainly baked... Via the microwave 5min > 1hr in the oven.

Otherwise "fried" in nonstick spray in a pan.

You don't soak them first though?

[smileyman]

No...can't do that either. Fat is fat homeboy.

i have never been anything but a sarcastic smart ass and all of a sudden everyone takes me seriously??

I am off to turn some lead into gold...

[Flexin]

Day 2 of fire school is done. I need some food ideas. Breakfast and lunch. I'm thinking of putting some cans of tuna in a dish and adding a few things then going at it. I want to cut out bread as much as possible. Any ideas. I need something that will help me get through PT (physical training) and survive class after that.

Thanks
James

[askmrjesus]

Day 2 of fire school is done. I need some food ideas. Breakfast and lunch.

Eat breakfast food in the morning, and lunch food in the afternoon.

JC

[marko138]

Eat breakfast food in the morning, and lunch food in the afternoon.

JC
Very insightful, JC.

[askmrjesus]

Very insightful, JC.

I know. It's a gift.

JC

[Apoc]

yep, no bleached flour, and try to stay away from flour all together if I can



Remember, your body needs carbs.. It needs quite a lot of them to function properly, actually.

[Apoc]

Day 2 of fire school is done. I need some food ideas. Breakfast and lunch. I'm thinking of putting some cans of tuna in a dish and adding a few things then going at it. I want to cut out bread as much as possible. Any ideas. I need something that will help me get through PT (physical training) and survive class after that.

Thanks
James

Breakfast:

Egg whites, peppers, a little salt, pepper to taste. Add ham if you like. One yolk. Mix it up, cook, flip, cook, add low fat cheese, fold over top, allow it time to melt/cook, remove from pan, add salsa as desired. Two whole grain toast to top it off, with whatever you normally drink in the morning (except pop, which I know you dont drink at all)

Healthy, nutritious, and filling.

[Rider]

Breakfast:

Egg whites, peppers, a little salt, pepper to taste. Add ham if you like. One yolk. Mix it up, cook, flip, cook, add low fat cheese, fold over top, allow it time to melt/cook, remove from pan, add salsa as desired. Two whole grain toast to top it off, with whatever you normally drink in the morning (except pop, which I know you dont drink at all)

Healthy, nutritious, and filling.

Sounds like a big breakfast.

[Apoc]

Sounds like a big breakfast.

I was a steroid induced monster(and seriously considering it again), I needed a lot of food.

But ya, you need a ton of protein and low glycemic carbs, and healthy fats(omega 3, 6, and 9) to keep the body properly primed. And for a firefighter, you want the correct macro and micro nutrients.

Theres more to fitness than the body, the mind has to function properly too. breakfast really is the most important part of your day, and consistently eating a healthy breakfast will promote fat loss (because I hate the term `weight loss`).

Breakfast should be your biggest meal.

[Rider]

I was a steroid induced monster(and seriously considering it again), I needed a lot of food.

But ya, you need a ton of protein and low glycemic carbs, and healthy fats(omega 3, 6, and 9) to keep the body properly primed. And for a firefighter, you want the correct macro and micro nutrients.

Theres more to fitness than the body, the mind has to function properly too. breakfast really is the most important part of your day, and consistently eating a healthy breakfast will promote fat loss (because I hate the term `weight loss`).

Breakfast should be your biggest meal.

Agreed. How does the saying go, for breakfast eat like a king, for lunch, eat like a prince and for dinner, eat like a servant... Something like that.

[Apoc]

Agreed. How does the saying go, for breakfast eat like a king, for lunch, eat like a prince and for dinner, eat like a servant... Something like that.

Ya, except you should eat 6 times a day, not 3.

[Flexin]

Breakfast:

Egg whites, peppers, a little salt, pepper to taste. Add ham if you like. One yolk. Mix it up, cook, flip, cook, add low fat cheese, fold over top, allow it time to melt/cook, remove from pan, add salsa as desired. Two whole grain toast to top it off, with whatever you normally drink in the morning (except pop, which I know you dont drink at all)

Healthy, nutritious, and filling.

I just had that for breakfast. I will see how this works out for me. Any other ideas would be great as well.

Thanks
James

[the chi]

I just had that for breakfast. I will see how this works out for me. Any other ideas would be great as well.

Thanks
James

I dont know if it will help any but it might help with ideas for food but Mypyramidplan.gov is a good tool for meal planning and such.

[Homeslice]

Egg beaters are a convenient way to get egg whites, but you don't get any yolk, it's just dyed yellow to make you think there's yolk in it.

[Cutty72]

I have a banana for breakfast. Sometimes 2.

[Apoc]

I just had that for breakfast. I will see how this works out for me. Any other ideas would be great as well.

Thanks
James

Fried ham (in Pam) is always good, AAgain with toast. oatmeal is the best carb source you can get. Mix it with blueberries or whatever fruit you like.

Most of the firefighters around here prefer cocaine for those tough days :lol:

[TYEster]

Egg beaters are a convenient way to get egg whites, but you don't get any yolk, it's just dyed yellow to make you think there's yolk in it.

I like Pappetti whites or Egg Beaters "just whites".

I think the yellow fake yolk stuff is gross tasting and textured.

[Apoc]

I like Pappetti whites or Egg Beaters "just whites".

I think the yellow fake yolk stuff is gross tasting and textured.

Makes it slimy for drinking, thats for sure.

Just Whites are the best ive tried.

[TYEster]

Makes it slimy for drinking, thats for sure.

Just Whites are the best ive tried.

All of it's gross to drink straight, but instead of dropping tons of money on extra protein powder, I've stocked up on lactose free milk and sugarfree chocolate syrup.

[Apoc]

All of it's gross to drink straight, but instead of dropping tons of money on extra protein powder, I've stocked up on lactose free milk and sugarfree chocolate syrup.

I dont mind drinking them. They arent good, but I can stomach it.

[Homeslice]

All of it's gross to drink straight, but instead of dropping tons of money on extra protein powder, I've stocked up on lactose free milk and sugarfree chocolate syrup.

Are you lactose intolerant? What happens if you drink regular milk? I've never had a problem with drinking a half-gallon a day. Maybe a couple more farts but that's about it.

[TYEster]

Are you lactose intolerant? What happens if you drink regular milk? I've never had a problem with drinking a half-gallon a day. Maybe a couple more farts but that's about it.

Yes, I'll shit my brains out with the real deal. Cheese and other dairy don't phase me a bit though.

But I drink this... Slightly "better" in the ways I need than regular milk.
http://fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/heb/lactose-free-fat-free-mootopia-milk

*cant find a pic, so there's a quick macro breakdown

[Apoc]

Yes, I'll shit my brains out with the real deal.

Ahh, this is when you know you've been hanging out with the same guys on the net for way too many years!

Info I didnt need my friend, info I didnt need!

[Flexin]

The bread I bought was hard to eat this morning. It wasn't bad just really different from what I'm used to. Breakfast did me till about 11 am and then I was starving. But I think my energy levels were pretty good for not getting much sleep. I'm going to keep trying that one to see how it works. I also need to pound back the water more then ever before. Some of the things we do in that gear just has the sap running right out of you.

James

[Flexin]

I dont know if it will help any but it might help with ideas for food but Mypyramidplan.gov is a good tool for meal planning and such.

I will take a look at that. Thanks.

James

[Apoc]

James, if you ate breakfast at 7, you should be drained by 11.

Try a couple of granola bars between breakfast and lunch, when you start to burn out. And more water!

[Flexin]

James, if you ate breakfast at 7, you should be drained by 11.

Try a couple of granola bars between breakfast and lunch, when you start to burn out. And more water!

I finished eating just before 11. I forgot my lunch home. Today we didn't get many breaks that were long enough for a snack. I would need 10 minutes for that so i could make sure I was back in class or ready to suit up in time. 5 minutes is only long enough for a drink. If we are late coming back your fucked. Three lates and your out and the class will be doing a push up for every second your late.

One guy was 2 minutes late. We did half of those push ups in gear. I will take hunger over that.

But you are right. I do need something there to snack on any chance I get.


James

[Apoc]

I finished eating just before 11. I forgot my lunch home. Today we didn't get many breaks that were long enough for a snack. I would need 10 minutes for that so i could make sure I was back in class or ready to suit up in time. 5 minutes is only long enough for a drink. If we are late coming back your fucked. Three lates and your out and the class will be doing a push up for every second your late.

One guy was 2 minutes late. We did half of those push ups in gear. I will take hunger over that.

But you are right. I do need something there to snack on any chance I get.


James

You need to learn to eat faster, I can eat a couple of granola bars and and a shot of water in less than a minute. Carry them with you. You dont need to enjoy it, just gotta get the carbs in your stomach.

[Tsunami]

Thanks Apoc, now I am craving eggs but I am too lazy and tired to go make some. So I will sit here in hunger.

[Flexin]

You need to learn to eat faster, I can eat a couple of granola bars and and a shot of water in less than a minute. Carry them with you. You dont need to enjoy it, just gotta get the carbs in your stomach.

I can eat fast. I can't have food in the class room. I might be able to get away with a bar in my pocket. I need to do something.

James

[Tsunami]

I can eat fast. I can't have food in the class room. I might be able to get away with a bar in my pocket. I need to do something.

James

Can you bring a shake in glass and put it in an inconspicuous bottle? I'm not sure what your goals are since I have been just skimming but I drink ensure before class and it takes like 30 seconds. Then again I am not calorie counting or anything, I just need all my nutrients.

[Apoc]

Thanks Apoc, now I am craving eggs but I am too lazy and tired to go make some. So I will sit here in hunger.

lol

Im kinda hungry too, but its almost 2am.

[Tsunami]

lol

Im kinda hungry too, but its almost 2am.

I just made a 3 egg omelet with onions, jalapenos, tomatoes, cheese and ketchup.:rockwoot:

[Flexin]

Can you bring a shake in glass and put it in an inconspicuous bottle? I'm not sure what your goals are since I have been just skimming but I drink ensure before class and it takes like 30 seconds. Then again I am not calorie counting or anything, I just need all my nutrients.

If I had something like ensure I would just pound it back. I wouldn't try bringing that into the class. I can bring water in and I do.

I'm in firefighting school so my goal is to eat well enough to have the energy to do the crazy things they have us doing and feeling my muscles. I also am doing about 25 hours a week at work and then add in the studying and I'm also in the hospital any chance I get to visit my brother in law. In all that I need to throw in some sleep.

If there are any foods that will give me and extra 4-6 hours a day I would like to know where I can get that in bulk.

James

[Tsunami]

If there are any foods that will give me and extra 4-6 hours a day I would like to know where I can get that in bulk.

James

You and me both. I don't think you can turn 24 hour days into 30-32 hours with food though :lol:

Went I was eating predominantly raw and really clean, I was sleeping 2 hours less, my body just didn't need it. But then again, I sleep alot so even with less sleep I was still averaging about 7 hours. I can't function when I don't get enough sleep, even if its just one night of interrupted sleep.

[Apoc]

You and me both. I don't think you can turn 24 hour days into 30-32 hours with food though :lol:

Went I was eating predominantly raw and really clean, I was sleeping 2 hours less, my body just didn't need it. But then again, I sleep alot so even with less sleep I was still averaging about 7 hours. I can't function when I don't get enough sleep, even if its just one night of interrupted sleep.

Ya, its not like you lack sleep! :lol:

[Flexin]

You and me both. I don't think you can turn 24 hour days into 30-32 hours with food though :lol:

Went I was eating predominantly raw and really clean, I was sleeping 2 hours less, my body just didn't need it. But then again, I sleep alot so even with less sleep I was still averaging about 7 hours. I can't function when I don't get enough sleep, even if its just one night of interrupted sleep.

This week my best night was about 5.5-6 full hours. I think every other night was a bit less and broken up. My daughter was sick on night and woke us up 5 times during my 5 hours of sleep that night. That isn't enough for me. I need to try to get about 7 but its hard to do right now and with the studying its really tough.

James

[Apoc]

Ya, i need about 7. If I get too much, I feel lazy and wierd all day too. Any more than 8, and I start to feel bad.

[Flexin]

Ya, i need about 7. If I get too much, I feel lazy and wierd all day too. Any more than 8, and I start to feel bad.

I feel the same way with too much sleep. Hit it right and you have a great day. Screw it up and your dragging ass all day.

James

[Akilldema]

I'd like to see one, but since this is my first post here, my opinion might not be worth much.

[Apoc]

Akill! Welcome to TWF bro! Good to see you here!

[Flexin]

Any ideas for lunch. Yesterday I was a big hit at work eating a can of tuna at work on break. Lol. I picked up some oatmeal bars yesterday to snack on during my school day.

James

[Akilldema]

Any ideas for lunch. Yesterday I was a big hit at work eating a can of tuna at work on break. Lol. I picked up some oatmeal bars yesterday to snack on during my school day.

James

I like tuna. Maybe a turkey or chicken sandwhich on whole wheat. I pretty much just eat chicken, eggs, tuna, turkey. Read meat is good, it just costs more and I don't always feel like cooking it.

[Akilldema]

Akill! Welcome to TWF bro! Good to see you here!

Thanks for the welcome, dude. I see pretty much everyone is here like you said.

[Homeslice]

Any ideas for lunch. Yesterday I was a big hit at work eating a can of tuna at work on break. Lol. I picked up some oatmeal bars yesterday to snack on during my school day.

James

Buy the water-based stuff, dump it onto a strainer and let it sit for an hour, then wrap it in a couple tortillas with some celery and black pepper.

Another thing is black-eye peas. Makes a good filler and good carbs.

[Flexin]

Buy the water-based stuff, dump it onto a strainer and let it sit for an hour, then wrap it in a couple tortillas with some celery and black pepper.

Another thing is black-eye peas. Makes a good filler and good carbs.

I only get the tuna in water. The other day I had tuna with some mayo and celery. Tortillas are hit or miss. I would have to see if I can find one I like. What's the reason to let it sit in the strainer?

Black eye peas I haven't tried and I'm not sure if I like them. I will have to give them a shot.

James

[Flexin]

Thanks for the welcome, dude. I see pretty much everyone is here like you said.

Damn where have you been? Welcome to TWF.

James

[squidward]

I'd like to see one, but since this is my first post here, my opinion might not be worth much.

It's probably worth more than mine, but I'd like to see a fitness forum as well. Oh yeah....welcome aboard.

Started the 5-3-1 thing and got back into boxing.....thinking about venturing back into the MMA thing with a local gym as well.

[Akilldema]

Yeah, I moved for a bit, plus I don't really ride too much. Glad to be back around, though.

[Apoc]

Yeah, I moved for a bit, plus I don't really ride too much. Glad to be back around, though.

I wondered why you hadnt made it over. I thought everybody knew about this place back at cf.

[Akilldema]

I wasn't on CF for a little over a year, but now I'm pretty much back around. I'm mostly on bodybuilding boards though, because I'm really focused on reaching my goals. My day pretty much revolves around that right now.