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Amorok
01-24-2010, 10:01 AM
So this weekend was supposed to be my big backup, I had finally cleared enough room on my 500gig to hold everything. Went to bed with copy actions running and wouldn't you know it, woke up to the unable to boot screen. Of course none of my copies went and I had to reformat my hard drive. Lost all the pictures I had taken since last year's rally, and all the movies I had for my iPhone. I can get most everything back except for the pictures but it's gonna take a long time and a lot of ass pain. Stupid Vista, and stupid me for not backing up earlier or having recovery disks. I feel like such a n00b.

marko138
01-25-2010, 10:57 AM
So this weekend was supposed to be my big backup, I had finally cleared enough room on my 500gig to hold everything. Went to bed with copy actions running and wouldn't you know it, woke up to the unable to boot screen. Of course none of my copies went and I had to reformat my hard drive. Lost all the pictures I had taken since last year's rally, and all the movies I had for my iPhone. I can get most everything back except for the pictures but it's gonna take a long time and a lot of ass pain. Stupid Vista, and stupid me for not backing up earlier or having recovery disks. I feel like such a n00b.
Nubs.

Archren
01-25-2010, 11:15 AM
Macbook FTW. :D

pauldun170
01-25-2010, 12:03 PM
sounds like a hardware issue.
Drive could be crapping out.

Amorok
01-25-2010, 06:32 PM
Sucks because it's a laptop, o really hope it's not the drive. I'm slowly replacing everything, the only thing I can't get back is the pictures. I'm buying a media server to pit everything on, til then I'm using my external to back everything up as I go. This sucks a lot, it's been a while since I've had to restore stuff and I forgot what a pain it was. I have to get a software package to restore my iTunes library off my 80gig, well, the music at least. The movies are gone but I can get them back from where I downloaded them in the first place, it'll just take a while. My next computer will be a mac.

Avatard
01-25-2010, 07:22 PM
Macbook FTW. :D

I have personally found that the very best Windows computers, with the least issues, and the highest speeds (outside of esoteric gaming shit) are Apple computers.

In my house, as I have a family and we're musicians, we're integrating a recording studio, along with a number of personal computers of 3 major OSes (MS, Apple, Ubuntu Linux) of various versions (Win 4-6, Mac 7-10, and Ubuntu 7-9).

As we can afford it, we've been moving all hardware to Mac, and even virtualizing some of the PCs.

For what it's worth, with rare exception, hardware issues are now nearly a thing of the past with the Apple stuff. We can argue the merits of different OS's all day (we use them all), but we must give it up for Apple's hardware. If you just need an "appliance" that just flat works, their shit is tight.

...and Yes, I know it's expensive, and I know it's overpriced, but downtime, and frustration comes at a very high price too. Windows XP on a Mac Mini or a Macbook Pro just FLIES. Put an SSD lappy drive in a Mac Mini, and shit works like you see it in the fucking movies. BAM! Just scary fast.

Wanna set up the ultimate home network/media integrated system? Mac Minis and LCD TV panels in each room (dual boot Win/Mac) with Bluetooth mouse and KBs, and a central Mac Mini server, running MS server and/or Linux server parallel under VMware (giving you full server functions in both OSs), for maximum flexibility even on the server side.

The performance is amazing, and the cost of operation is low, as the Minis are cheap, quiet, and very energy efficient. It is also finally the best way to integrate TV and Internet while networking your entire house (wireless-ly!).

Costs about $1500 a room for a Mini and a TV. Mac/Win/TV Inexpensive, quiet, compatible, cheap to operate...and I finally can get back to work, and stop jerking around with hardware.

Priceless.

t-homo
01-25-2010, 08:10 PM
I have personally found that the very best Windows computers, with the least issues, and the highest speeds (outside of esoteric gaming shit) are Apple computers.

In my house, as I have a family and we're musicians, we're integrating a recording studio, along with a number of personal computers of 3 major OSes (MS, Apple, Ubuntu Linux) of various versions (Win 4-6, Mac 7-10, and Ubuntu 7-9).

As we can afford it, we've been moving all hardware to Mac, and even virtualizing some of the PCs.

For what it's worth, with rare exception, hardware issues are now nearly a thing of the past with the Apple stuff. We can argue the merits of different OS's all day (we use them all), but we must give it up for Apple's hardware. If you just need an "appliance" that just flat works, their shit is tight.

...and Yes, I know it's expensive, and I know it's overpriced, but downtime, and frustration comes at a very high price too. Windows XP on a Mac Mini or a Macbook Pro just FLIES. Put an SSD lappy drive in a Mac Mini, and shit works like you see it in the fucking movies. BAM! Just scary fast.

Wanna set up the ultimate home network/media integrated system? Mac Minis and LCD TV panels in each room (dual boot Win/Mac) with Bluetooth mouse and KBs, and a central Mac Mini server, running MS server and/or Linux server parallel under VMware (giving you full server functions in both OSs), for maximum flexibility even on the server side.

The performance is amazing, and the cost of operation is low, as the Minis are cheap, quiet, and very energy efficient. It is also finally the best way to integrate TV and Internet while networking your entire house (wireless-ly!).

Costs about $1500 a room for a Mini and a TV. Mac/Win/TV Inexpensive, quiet, compatible, cheap to operate...and I finally can get back to work, and stop jerking around with hardware.

Priceless.

That is fucking baller. I have heard TONS of people say the same thing about windows running better on apple hardware. I had mine set up to dual boot for a while, but never needed to use windows so I eventually deleted it.

You can get just as solid of a Windows laptop, but you are going to pay the same price for it as you would a mac. Now if you want to run to walmart on black friday and buy the windows laptop for 149.99 with a 2.0 GHz single core processor, 512Mb of Ram, and a 40 gig hard drive, have at it, but don't compare your 150 dollar computer to my 1200 dollar one that fucking destroys it.

Rangerscott
01-25-2010, 08:27 PM
Sounds like an earthquake issue.

101lifts2
01-25-2010, 08:52 PM
....For what it's worth, with rare exception, hardware issues are now nearly a thing of the past with the Apple stuff. We can argue the merits of different OS's all day (we use them all), but we must give it up for Apple's hardware. If you just need an "appliance" that just flat works, their shit is tight..

It's not the really the hardware, but the fact that Apple contacts it's own hardware specs to Asian OEM's resulting in a much tighter development process so the hardware and O/S can work together more effectively. In contrast, Microsoft O/S's are designed to run on many different pieces of hardware, making their systems slower and not as effective as Apple. This is why Apple has much fewer issues than Microsoft in general. However, saying that the physical hardware is built any better is a stretch.

Trip
01-25-2010, 08:54 PM
It's possible to get Mac hardware performance for much cheaper. It just requires you to be more proactive in your hardware choices. Read reviews and ask questions about what mobo will perform with what ram and video card better. It's what Mac does and when you do it, it will work like that. Mac is the good no brainer way to get this done for you without the work though.

Avatard
01-25-2010, 09:17 PM
It's possible to get Mac hardware performance for much cheaper. It just requires you to be more proactive in your hardware choices. Read reviews and ask questions about what mobo will perform with what ram and video card better. It's what Mac does and when you do it, it will work like that. Mac is the good no brainer way to get this done for you without the work though.

...Exactly, and if your line of work is NOT PCs, and you just wanna get back to what it is you do, it's totally worth it, IMHO...because it's also very elegant (the wireless KB looks like it should be on display in MOMA), and energy efficient too.

The Mini form factor is suitable for 99.9% of what we use computers for, and it's so small, so good on electricity, and so compatible with everything that it IS really a total no-brainer. Fuck PCs, and all that crunching and grinding and fan noise. The Mini is near dead silent, despite having a tiny fan, and takes up as much room as a stack of 6 CDs on the desk. Plug it into an LCD TV, and you have an instant (wireless networked) media center PC/TV.

I've finally come to the conclusion that I will pay for the modest privilege of saving my precious time and brain for my real job, and my life, and screw jerking off PC hardware configuration nightmares. It's just not fucking worth it. The Apple shit just works, and you can just get back to life.

Simplify.

Trip
01-25-2010, 09:33 PM
...Exactly, and if your line of work is NOT PCs, and you just wanna get back to what it is you do, it's totally worth it, IMHO...because it's also very elegant (the wireless KB looks like it should be on display in MOMA), and energy efficient too.

The Mini form factor is suitable for 99.9% of what we use computers for, and it's so small, so good on electricity, and so compatible with everything that it IS really a total no-brainer. Fuck PCs, and all that crunching and grinding and fan noise. The Mini is near dead silent, despite having a tiny fan, and takes up as much room as a stack of 6 CDs on the desk. Plug it into an LCD TV, and you have an instant (wireless networked) media center PC/TV.

I've finally come to the conclusion that I will pay for the modest privilege of saving my precious time and brain for my real job, and my life, and screw jerking off PC hardware configuration nightmares. It's just not fucking worth it. The Apple shit just works, and you can just get back to life.

Simplify.

I agree. I always recommend Macs to my computer illiterate family. Like you said, they work 95% of the time, they are dead simple, and I don't have to deal with my families questions and the crap that computer illiterate people do to PCs to make them stop working.

t-homo
01-25-2010, 09:42 PM
I would love to build a gaming PC, half just for the experience of building it. I have gone through and picked out each of the parts a couple of times but never gone through with buying it all and putting it together. Pretty fun really.

Archren
01-25-2010, 09:43 PM
I used to hate MacOS... but it's grown on me. The fact that iMovie and GarageBand came installed on my Macbook were HUGE bonuses. iMovie makes creaing professional-looking movies insanely easy... and I can plug my electric guitar into my laptop, tune it, and download guitar lessons to play along with since I'm a guitar n00b.

Yes, I could get something just as good in a regular PC, but it does require a lot of know-how in finding the computers, or building one from scratch. I may, down the line, build a faster than shit PC for playing those windows-only, graphics-intensive video games.. but it will be a single-purpose computer.

Avatard
01-25-2010, 09:57 PM
I agree. I always recommend Macs to my computer illiterate family. Like you said, they work 95% of the time, they are dead simple, and I don't have to deal with my families questions and the crap that computer illiterate people do to PCs to make them stop working.

Understand something; I used to be a computer consultant. I can just easily think of shit I'd far rather do, is all. I used to get off on building "ultimate" systems. That just got old, and frankly, this shit just works.

Trip
01-25-2010, 10:02 PM
Understand something; I used to be a computer consultant. I can just easily think of shit I'd far rather do, is all. I used to get off on building "ultimate" systems. That just got old, and frankly, this shit just works.

I don't have to understand. I am an electrical engineer and can build the shit from scratch and like doing it.

Avatard
01-25-2010, 10:09 PM
OK, your E-penis is bigger, Mr. Engineer...but I too know how to build PCs, was my only point - it's just that Apple does it better (and smaller, and more elegant, and more efficient), but for not much more money...and all with far less hassle for me.

Frankly, that's all it took for me to wanna move on to more important things (I no longer "like" doing that shit).

For me, I deemed it worthwhile (~$1500 a room for integrated Mac/Win/TV). YMMV.

Trip
01-25-2010, 10:20 PM
OK, your E-penis is bigger, Mr. Engineer...but I too know how to build PCs, was my only point - it's just that Apple does it better (and smaller, and more elegant, and more efficient), but for not much more money...and all with far less hassle for me.

Frankly, that's all it took for me to wanna move on to more important things (I no longer "like" doing that shit).

For me, I deemed it worthwhile (~$1500 a room for integrated Mac/Win/TV). YMMV.

Yes, I know, I have already said multiple times that I agree with you that apple is less hassle. I am not the one that started the whole computer consultant crap. Any tom/dick/harry can build a PC if they can read, it's not hard. Hell I think I built a PC before I even knew what an Ohm was...

It's always easier to spend money to buy something vs putting in the time to build it right. I could build a lot of computer components myself, but the cost and quality of a homebrew is totally idiotic vs buying it online on newegg.

I think it is fair to say everyone on this board understands the whole Cost vs Time concept.

pauldun170
01-25-2010, 10:26 PM
Actually....Macs are only middle of the road when it comes to hardware reliability. Some might say they are POS
Sony, Asus and Toshiba are ahead of Macs when it comes to reliability.

karl_1052
01-26-2010, 07:49 AM
Macbook FTW. :D

Yeah, because Apple never has issues.

take the red one
http://everystockphoto.s3.amazonaws.com/medicine_tablet_choice_223902_l.jpg

Archren
01-26-2010, 10:54 AM
Yeah, because Apple never has issues.

take the red one


Jesus H. Christ, is it harp on Carolina week or what? Someone please point out to me where exactly in either of my statements I said Apples NEVER have issues.

t-homo
01-26-2010, 10:55 AM
Jesus H. Christ, is it harp on Carolina week or what? Someone please point out to me where exactly in either of my statements I said Apples NEVER have issues.

No, people are just bitchy in general lately.

Method
01-26-2010, 11:51 AM
Jesus H. Christ, is it harp on Carolina week or what? Someone please point out to me where exactly in either of my statements I said Apples NEVER have issues.


Clear as day :p

Trip
01-26-2010, 12:01 PM
No, people are just bitchy in general lately.

Shut up homo.

Archren
01-26-2010, 12:19 PM
Clear as day :p

:nee:

t-homo
01-26-2010, 12:37 PM
Shut up homo.

Don't make me have alex beat your ass.


Disclaimer: This is in no way a personal attack or threat on a member.

karl_1052
01-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Jesus H. Christ, is it harp on Carolina week or what? Someone please point out to me where exactly in either of my statements I said Apples NEVER have issues.

I am not picking on you(you have guns and know how to use them), I am picking on all the Mac fanboi's that cannot put down the cool-aid.

t-homo
01-26-2010, 01:18 PM
I am not picking on you(you have guns and know how to use them), I am picking on all the Mac fanboi's that cannot put down the cool-aid.

Yeah, heaven forbid people actually enjoy using superior products.

Trip
01-26-2010, 01:19 PM
Don't make me have alex beat your ass.


Disclaimer: This is in no way a personal attack or threat on a member.

Alex won't do what you ask. He is too afraid to be your friend because he doesn't want to get raped in the middle of the night.

t-homo
01-26-2010, 01:20 PM
Alex won't do what you ask. He is too afraid to be your friend because he doesn't want to get raped in the middle of the night.

:lol

Avatard
01-26-2010, 01:25 PM
Fanboy? That can only be directed at me. Maybe you missed the part about Windows, and Linux, and need to go back and read for comprehension. I used to be a PC consultant. I am not a fan of ANY motherfucking computers [anymore]. I never even said the shit would last longer than 5 fucking minutes (someone mentioned longevity). I wish people would stop projecting their Mac fears onto me.

I just said that you plug that fucking shit in, and it works, and that leaves ME to get back to what the fuck it was I was doing...living my life.

In particular this resonates with me as it has to do with my sheer motherfucking disdain for the literally thousands of hours I've lost in my fucking lifetime to badly made hardware, badly written software, and stupid incompatibilities.

FUCK building PCs out of parts, and FUCK getting proprietary shit from assholes.

Apple finally went Intel, full-industry-standard hardware, and their shit WORKS. It works, it's quiet, it costs 18 watts to run when it throttles back - what's not to love?

But trust me, fanboy I'm not. I'm sooooo not a fan of computers, that my studio will feature a RADAR system from Otari. For those who don't know what that is, it's basically a "tapeless tape machine". While in the box you will find a PC, it runs all proprietary shit, and has just STOP, REW, PLAY, FF, REC transport controls.

No plug-ins, no emulators, no updates, no conflicts, just a big fat red button to hit, when you wanna stick fucking music in the box.

I will have a computer (running ProTools and Logic), but it will be OFF most of the time music is being made (Via a lightpipe>IEEE1394 interface, the RADAR actually dumps right into the computer for mixing and editing)

Do I sound like a fucking computer fanboy?

karl_1052
01-26-2010, 01:50 PM
Fanboy? That can only be directed at me.

That is the other problem with fanboi's, they think the whole world is directing hate at them only. :lol

I did read your whole post about failing clone hardware, and have never experienced any hardware failures in over 15 years of working with and using PCs. But you don't see me shoving that in everyones face.

Mac users are as annoying and in your face as PETA.

:tremble:

Archren
01-26-2010, 01:55 PM
That is the other problem with fanboi's, they think the whole world is directing hate at them only. :lol

I did read your whole post about failing clone hardware, and have never experienced any hardware failures in over 15 years of working with and using PCs. But you don't see me shoving that in everyones face.

Mac users are as annoying and in your face as PETA.

:tremble:

So.... does that make you a PC fanboi? :scratch: redflip

t-homo
01-26-2010, 01:56 PM
That is the other problem with fanboi's, they think the whole world is directing hate at them only. :lol

I did read your whole post about failing clone hardware, and have never experienced any hardware failures in over 15 years of working with and using PCs. But you don't see me shoving that in everyones face.

Mac users are as annoying and in your face as PETA.

:tremble:

You must be the exception. Pretty much everyone I know with a PC (storebought or custom built) has had at least a hard drive fail on em. I know of 1 mac user that this happened to.

karl_1052
01-26-2010, 02:01 PM
So.... does that make you a PC fanboi? :scratch: redflip

Nope, I don't praise PCs in every random thread about computers. Find me a thread about computers that does not have a Mac fan 'offering' their opinion on why Macs are better.

Avatard
01-26-2010, 02:34 PM
Funny thing is, all my personal computers (mostly Macs) boot into Windows by default.

Karl, sorry but your Mac fanboi bullshit is just way off the mark.

Did you ever consider, however, the POSSIBILITY that everyone says shit is better because, um, well, it is?

Avatard
01-26-2010, 02:36 PM
I think Karl secretly has Mac envy. That's a rather suspect amount of hostility, bud.

:lmao:

t-homo
01-26-2010, 03:00 PM
Think about it, its like Aprilias and Hyosungs. One of the two has tons of fanbois, one doesn't. One is better, one isn't.

karl_1052
01-26-2010, 03:17 PM
I think Karl secretly has Mac envy. That's a rather suspect amount of hostility, bud.

:lmao:

:lol:

Apoc
01-26-2010, 03:39 PM
format, you had to format.

Reformat isnt really a process. Its just formatting a HDD. Just because its been done more than once, doesnt mean it needs an re in front of it!

Sorry, pet peeve!

Trip
01-26-2010, 04:39 PM
Think about it, its like Aprilias and Hyosungs. One of the two has tons of fanbois, one doesn't. One is better, one isn't.

Hyosungs? lol

It's more like Suzukis(PCs) vs BMWs(Macs).

There tends to be a lot of douchebags that don't know how to ride a Suzuki (PC) properly.

And you definitely are the image of a fanboy.

Amorok
01-26-2010, 07:41 PM
format, you had to format.

Reformat isnt really a process. Its just formatting a HDD. Just because its been done more than once, doesnt mean it needs an re in front of it!

Sorry, pet peeve!

Well, my fucking computer shit the bed and I've spent the last five days putting everything back together from various backup locations, with another couple of days before I'm done. THAT'S my pet peeve, so I'll call it what I want. You can format your hard drive, I'll reformatizealate my fucking drive. If I gave a shit I'd put a smiling animated face so you'd know I don't hate you, but I don't. I don't hate you. But I reformatticized. Deal with it. Now where's my Nero install...

pauldun170
01-26-2010, 07:48 PM
Well, my fucking computer shit the bed and I've spent the last five days putting everything back together from various backup locations, with another couple of days before I'm done. THAT'S my pet peeve, so I'll call it what I want. You can format your hard drive, I'll reformatizealate my fucking drive. If I gave a shit I'd put a smiling animated face so you'd know I don't hate you, but I don't. I don't hate you. But I reformatticized. Deal with it. Now where's my Nero install...

Damn....
Glad my pc is properly backed up.

t-homo
01-26-2010, 07:48 PM
Hyosungs? lol

It's more like Suzukis(PCs) vs BMWs(Macs).

There tends to be a lot of douchebags that don't know how to ride a Suzuki (PC) properly.

And you definitely are the image of a fanboy.

Yeah, my example was a little extreme, and i thought making fun of PCs using Hyosungs would be amusing.

Trip
01-26-2010, 07:52 PM
Yeah, my example was a little extreme, and i thought making fun of PCs using Hyosungs would be amusing.

PCs and Macs are both fine in my book. I will probably get that iMac with the 27" monitor as my next addition as a matter of fact.

t-homo
01-26-2010, 09:50 PM
P.S. You could also call me a fanboy considering I worked as a campus rep for apple from June-December.

Trip
01-26-2010, 09:53 PM
P.S. You could also call me a fanboy considering I worked as a campus rep for apple from June-December.

lol yeah, you are well indoctrinated now

marko138
01-27-2010, 10:30 AM
PCs and Macs are both fine in my book. I will probably get that iMac with the 27" monitor as my next addition as a matter of fact.

I've got the 24" iMac at my desk right now. The new ones look even cooler.