fall of detroit [Archive]

Homeslice

01-26-2010, 07:07 PM

Good find....

But, Detroit has been like that for years, so if you think Obama should do something, then Bush and Clinton should have too.

Also, who's fault is it? If a city has experienced a decline that is almost 100% due to ONE INDUSTRY, then it's their fault for not having a diversified industry base.

And people can always move or get re-trained if they need a new job.

dReWpY

01-26-2010, 07:09 PM

im not placing the blame on why its like that, im just saying that instead of pointing and arguing about why its like more should be done to stop the degradation of our inner cities

Homeslice

01-26-2010, 07:13 PM

im not placing the blame on why its like that, im just saying that instead of pointing and arguing about why its like more should be done to stop the degradation of our inner cities

Everyone wants to have a 4,000 square foot home (even though they really only use half the rooms in it, and even though they are forced to waste 2 hours a day in traffic because of how far out in the boonies it is).

Amber Lamps

01-26-2010, 07:18 PM

Amber Lamps

01-26-2010, 07:22 PM

Everyone wants to have a 4,000 square foot home (even though they really only use half the rooms in it, and even though they are forced to waste 2 hours a day in traffic because of how far out in the boonies it is).

As transportation gets better, people move further out. Most people don't want to live on top of each other and only do so out of necessity.

Homeslice

01-26-2010, 08:04 PM

Yea, Detroit has been a shit hole for years. I remember visiting my grandparents in the early seventies and it looked like a third world country then. Same with Gary, Ind. It's funny but they made a comment about the white middle class moving away...shit, anybody with more than $50 in their pocket has bailed on Detroit. Last I heard, you could buy a decent sized house for under $10,000 in the city and even some of the closer suburbs are all but ghost towns now.

Even investors from Europe and China are coming over to scoop up some of those houses. They are just gambling though, they don't have the background to understand which neighborhoods will turn around and which won't, or how long it will take.

Funniest thing about Detroit is, even as far back as 20 years ago, there were boarded-up storefronts on Woodward only a half-mile from the downtown center. How many other big cities have boarded-up windows only a half mile from the center.

askmrjesus

01-26-2010, 08:26 PM

im not placing the blame on why its like that, im just saying that instead of pointing and arguing about why its like more should be done to stop the degradation of our inner cities

Agreed.

We've sold our souls to strip malls, and Waffle Houses.

I miss the grandeur of our country, before "we" all decided that money was more important than style, quality and ambiance.

Take an off-ramp off of any Interstate, and try to find a decent place to eat, sleep, or raise your kids.

Our standards have reached lows that only crack-heads would find acceptable.

JC

Gas Man

01-27-2010, 01:22 AM

Even investors from Europe and China are coming over to scoop up some of those houses. They are just gambling though, they don't have the background to understand which neighborhoods will turn around and which won't, or how long it will take.

Funniest thing about Detroit is, even as far back as 20 years ago, there were boarded-up storefronts on Woodward only a half-mile from the downtown center. How many other big cities have boarded-up windows only a half mile from the center.
Shit... go to The Whitney, one of the great restruants in downtown. I'm talking $100 at least for a dinner of 2. Surrounded by run down buildings. That's the thing about detroit. Even down by the new parks, and the Fox. Look nice out front. But go around the back... YIKES, same shitty Detroit.

Rangerscott

01-27-2010, 01:48 AM

Somebody did a special on the central station a year or two ago.

Its like Chernobyl and Silent Hill inside each other. Would be cool to go treasure hunting in all that.

Rider

01-27-2010, 09:21 AM

They don't call it Detoilet for nothing. Ford Field, Comerica Park, and Joe Louis Arena are the ONLY places in the city limits I will go and I am willing to pay a fortune for good parking close to the venues. Other than those places I have no reason to go into Detroit. The auto show, bike show, boat show...etc are not even in the Detroit city limits. They have those way out in Novi.

shmike

01-27-2010, 09:28 AM

An interesting video along the same lines.

*Warning to the the butt hurt: You may not like his commentary. It isn't 100% accurate. It's right wing propoganda, blah, blah, blah.*

Still a decent walk through the city:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw

Homeslice

01-27-2010, 09:36 AM

They do call it Detoilet for nothing. Ford Field, Comerica Park, and Joe Louis Arena are the ONLY places in the city limits I will go and I am willing to pay a fortune for good parking close to the venues. Other than those places I have no reason to go into Detroit. The auto show, bike show, boat show...etc are not even in the Detroit city limits. They have those way out in Novi.

The auto show is in the suburbs now? It always used to be downtown, when I was there.

There were some cool restaurants/bars a few blocks away in the riverfront/warehouse district.

Rider

01-27-2010, 09:40 AM

The auto show is in the suburbs now? It always used to be downtown, when I was there.

There were some cool restaurants/bars a few blocks away in the riverfront/warehouse district.

It's still at Cabo for now but the plans are to move it to Novi next year.

wildchild

01-27-2010, 10:54 AM

seems like now days it's not as fasionable to help out Americans who are suffering. Makes you look so much more like a true giver of life if you give your money internationally.

HurricaneHeather

01-27-2010, 10:58 AM

tommymac

01-27-2010, 11:00 AM

Okay, I am not typically one to get into a political debate, but Detroit did not suffer a natural disaster. It suffered years of supporting a dying industry. Throwing money at Detroit isn't going to save it. :shrug:

:scared:

At the time haiti is a 3rd world country that bareley functioned and was living off a lot of aid anyway. So now were going to rebuild them and still have to support them anyway.

Kaneman

01-27-2010, 11:05 AM

Okay, I am not typically one to get into a political debate, but Detroit did not suffer a natural disaster. It suffered years of supporting a dying industry. Throwing money at Detroit isn't going to save it. :shrug:

:scared:

Who gives a fuck you know? Where's the sense of pride in a nation? Detroit may suck balls, but it has given the rest of the country a lot over the years...would it be so horrible if we used $X Million to breathe some life into it instead of rebuilding a country that was already in shambles?

Homeslice

01-27-2010, 11:39 AM

wildchild

01-27-2010, 11:43 AM

yeah of course we did have very limited trade with Haiti as in, we can't, and there were those pesky travel warnings issued 7 months ago because 60 americans were kidnapped and some killed. but yeah i guess when they need money then they think we're ok.

Kaneman

01-27-2010, 11:45 AM

Not to mention a lot of the aid money ends up going to thugs.

Yes, and not thugs that have thuglife tattoos and wear baggy pants...but actual thugs that wouldn't bat an eye at murdering a starving family.

Dave

01-27-2010, 12:11 PM

Who gives a fuck you know? Where's the sense of pride in a nation? Detroit may suck balls, but it has given the rest of the country a lot over the years...would it be so horrible if we used $X Million to breathe some life into it instead of rebuilding a country that was already in shambles?

we shouldnt be using public money to fix a goddamned thing. Not here not there not anywhere. As for detroit, aint it about time for ocp to buy it up, raze it and build ''delta city''?

Kaneman

01-27-2010, 12:18 PM

we shouldnt be using public money to fix a goddamned thing. Not here not there not anywhere. As for detroit, aint it about time for ocp to buy it up, raze it and build ''delta city''?

The govt' is always going to get half of what you earn, so with all that money they might as well fix up a few shitholes here in the U.S.

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t357/NBachers/OCP.jpg

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 01:04 PM

Yes, and not thugs that have thuglife tattoos and wear baggy pants...but actual thugs that wouldn't bat an eye at murdering a starving family.

We don't give foreign aid to places like Haiti just to help them out, we give them money so they won't come HERE.

JC

Kaneman

01-27-2010, 01:05 PM

We don't give foreign aid to places like Haiti just to help them out, we give them money so they won't come HERE.

JC

:lol: We (Texas) should've rebuilt New Orleans in that case!

tommymac

01-27-2010, 01:07 PM

We don't give foreign aid to places like Haiti just to help them out, we give them money so they won't come HERE.

JC

Oh but they do, theres little haiti in miami and another large community up in brooklyn.

wildchild

01-27-2010, 01:08 PM

We don't give foreign aid to places like Haiti just to help them out, we give them money so they won't come HERE.

JC

nice thought but...we've already had a few haitian children arrive here. parents were killed so we'll let great american's adopt them, sob sob. won't be long and more will follow.

dReWpY

01-27-2010, 01:34 PM

cant branjuliena just adopt the entire fucking country and the whole mess be done?

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 01:40 PM

Oh but they do, theres little haiti in miami and another large community up in brooklyn.

If we don't send them some money, there's going to be a BIG fucking Haiti in Miami soon. :lol:

JC

pauldun170

01-27-2010, 01:46 PM

The last thing you want to do is cut off all aid to place like Haiti.

The problem with festering shitholds is that they become breeding grounds for very small, very bad little things.

tommymac

01-27-2010, 01:47 PM

If we don't send them some money, there's going to be a BIG fucking Haiti in Miami soon. :lol:

JC

well as of now theyre allowed to enter the country and are giving the illegals a chance to stay provided theyre not fellons:whatwhat:

karl_1052

01-27-2010, 01:51 PM

At the time haiti is a 3rd world country that bareley functioned and was living off a lot of aid anyway. So now were going to rebuild them and still have to support them anyway.

Not to mention they are in the situation they are in because of corrupt governments deforesting the whole country, and stealing all the wealth.
That used to be enough to start a revolution.

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 01:57 PM

seems like now days it's not as fasionable to help out Americans who are suffering. Makes you look so much more like a true giver of life if you give your money internationally.

interesting point, they readily churned out 100 million for aid to haiti but theres a ton of stuff here thats still a mess too.

cant branjuliena just adopt the entire fucking country and the whole mess be done?

Hmmm.

How to sum up this thread...

Wait, I have an idea...

JC

Homeslice

01-27-2010, 02:26 PM

Oh great, a Coach toddler purse. Wonder if anything's actually in it..........looks like it wouldn't even hold a diaper.

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 02:28 PM

Oh great, a Coach toddler purse. Wonder if anything's actually in it..........looks like it wouldn't even hold a diaper.

It never fails...:lol:

JC

shmike

01-27-2010, 02:31 PM

It never fails...:lol:

JC

Just when I start to feel sorry for the guy...

:lol

Homeslice

01-27-2010, 02:31 PM

It never fails...:lol:

JC

Not my fault other guys are too pussy to comment about clothes/fashion.

Also I have two older sisters, so what do you expect.

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 02:38 PM

Not my fault other guys are too pussy to comment about clothes/fashion.

Also I have two older sisters, so what do you expect.

I think you should go get a job with the E! network.

You could stand on red carpets and ask people "Who" they're wearing.

Of course, that would be cheating, since you'd already know anyway. :lol:

JC

tommymac

01-27-2010, 02:41 PM

I think you should go get a job with the E! network.

You could stand on red carpets and ask people "Who" they're wearing.

Of course, that would be cheating, since you'd already know anyway. :lol:

JC

We would have ot get him some ed hardy shirts first :lol:

tommymac

01-27-2010, 03:04 PM

this should stir up some controversey too

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/01/27/2010-01-27_paul_shirley_haiti.html

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 03:53 PM

this should stir up some controversey too

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/01/27/2010-01-27_paul_shirley_haiti.html

"Paul Shirley, whose brief NBA career included 18 games and 33 points with three teams over three seasons, is not in the giving mood."

Fuck, I've seen water boys with better stats.

"In a brief statement announcing the firing, the cable sports giant wrote: "The views he expressed on another site of course do not at all reflect our company's views on the Haiti relief efforts. He will no longer contribute to ESPN."

Back to the bench, asshole. :lol:

JC

Gas Man

01-27-2010, 05:45 PM

Okay, I am not typically one to get into a political debate, but Detroit did not suffer a natural disaster. It suffered years of supporting a dying industry. Throwing money at Detroit isn't going to save it. :shrug:
:scared:

Yeah but it wasn't a dying industry till the trade agreement.

And beyond that... the other large part of the problem is...
Not to mention a lot of the aid money ends up going to thugs.

The city of detroit and therefor Wayne county is full of corrupt thug bullshit! The largest being the infamous Kwame Kilpatrick. Trust me I know cause I live in Wayne county and Detroit has dragged down the county for decades!! As far as I'm concerned when they elected that thug POS KK guy... they got what they deserve!

Who gives a fuck you know? Where's the sense of pride in a nation? Detroit may suck balls, but it has given the rest of the country a lot over the years...would it be so horrible if we used $X Million to breathe some life into it instead of rebuilding a country that was already in shambles?

Exactly!! Fuck Haiti!! if they aren't willing to help themselves then they deserve whatever comes their way.

we shouldnt be using public money to fix a goddamned thing. Not here not there not anywhere. As for detroit, aint it about time for ocp to buy it up, raze it and build ''delta city''?

I would luv that!

We don't give foreign aid to places like Haiti just to help them out, we give them money so they won't come HERE.

JC

Never considered that... interesting!

Hmmm.

How to sum up this thread...

Wait, I have an idea...

JC

???

askmrjesus

01-27-2010, 06:01 PM

???

Don't make me explain it.

That would suck all the funny out.

JC

Gas Man

01-27-2010, 06:04 PM

Don't make me explain it.

That would suck all the funny out.

JC
Sorry... nevermind... I multi quoted and the pic dind't carry.

I totally agree. I HATE people adopting foreign kids!! There are plenty of american kids that need adopting!!!

defector

01-27-2010, 06:17 PM

this should stir up some controversey too

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/01/27/2010-01-27_paul_shirley_haiti.html

Dear Haitians –

First of all, kudos on developing the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Your commitment to human rights, infrastructure, and birth control should be applauded.

As we prepare to assist you in this difficult time, a polite request: If it's possible, could you not re-build your island home in the image of its predecessor? Could you not resort to the creation of flimsy shanty- and shack-towns? And could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

Sincerely,

The Rest of the World

Sounds like a cheap bit from the Jim Rome show.

tommymac

01-27-2010, 06:19 PM

Dear Haitians –

First of all, kudos on developing the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Your commitment to human rights, infrastructure, and birth control should be applauded.

As we prepare to assist you in this difficult time, a polite request: If it's possible, could you not re-build your island home in the image of its predecessor? Could you not resort to the creation of flimsy shanty- and shack-towns? And could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

Sincerely,

The Rest of the World

Sounds like a cheap bit from the Jim Rome show.

Could be him trying to advance his own career too. At least now people know who he is.

defector

01-27-2010, 06:21 PM

Could be, since his original career choice didn't go so well.

tommymac

01-27-2010, 06:23 PM

Could be, since his original career choice didn't go so well.

Cause a little controversey, and piss people off by speaking your mind, someone will hire you.

karl_1052

01-27-2010, 06:34 PM

Not my fault other guys are too pussy to comment about clothes/fashion.

Also I have two older sisters, so what do you expect.

We expect you to be a man and not wear their underwear all the time.:?:

Homeslice

01-27-2010, 07:58 PM

We expect you to be a man and not wear their underwear all the time.:?:

:lol:

TommyHotWheel

01-27-2010, 11:42 PM

I hear Bay is scouting Detroit as a movie location, he could blow up half of the city and I doubt anyone would care.

Gas Man

01-28-2010, 02:00 AM

I hear Bay is scouting Detroit as a movie location, he could blow up half of the city and I doubt anyone would care.
Universal has been scoping doing a great deal of movie making here. The state cut the taxes to do so BIG TIME. We need the jobs here!

karl_1052

01-28-2010, 07:58 AM

We would have ot get him some ed hardy shirts first :lol:

and a GSXR. redflip

Homeslice

01-29-2010, 12:49 AM

and a GSXR. redflip

Good call, as I'm already going to be ditching this for a gix-750

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:28 PM

The fall of Detroit has been the Red Wings lately.

tommymac

01-29-2010, 02:33 PM

The fall of Detroit has been the Red Wings lately.

because the lions and tigers already suck

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:34 PM

because the lions and tigers already suck
Yeah, and have for a LONG fucking time. And will continue to suck for the foreseeable future.

Detroit = FAILBOAT.

And I'm going there in 2 weeks. :lol:

tommymac

01-29-2010, 02:37 PM

At least they got rid of matt millen

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:37 PM

At least they got rid of matt millen
Yeah, and some shitty network picked him up.

tommymac

01-29-2010, 02:38 PM

Yeah, and some shitty network picked him up.

thats their problem now. hes ok as a commentator but obviously siucks as a GM

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:39 PM

thats their problem now. hes ok as a commentator but obviously siucks as a GM
He sucks at life.

tommymac

01-29-2010, 02:40 PM

He sucks at life.

theres much worseout there though

he still blows away joe theisman and paul mcguire

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:41 PM

theres much worseout there though

he still blows away joe theisman and paul mcguire
Ok, I'll give ya that. Those two fucks are something else.

Rider

01-29-2010, 02:41 PM

Yeah, and have for a LONG fucking time. And will continue to suck for the foreseeable future.

Detroit = FAILBOAT.

And I'm going there in 2 weeks. :lol:

When was the last time a Superbowl was played in PA? How about the NBA finals? How about the Frozen Four? The Final Four? The Ryder Cup? The World Series.... These are all recent events in Detroit.

tommymac

01-29-2010, 02:43 PM

Ok, I'll give ya that. Those two fucks are something else.

my fiancee wouldnt let me watch the game sif they were announcing it because I would throw stuff at the tv, even if we were at someon eelses house :lol:

When was the last time a Superbowl was played in PA? How about the NBA finals? How about the Frozen Four? The Final Four? The Ryder Cup? The World Series.... These are all recent events in Detroit.

How many teams or players from detroit won any of those events :lol:

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:43 PM

When was the last time a Superbowl was played in PA? How about the NBA finals? How about the Frozen Four? The Final Four? The Ryder Cup? The World Series.... These are all recent events in Detroit.
What? Who cares. Sucka, we play our games in teh fucking weather. You ass clowns have shiny new domes. It's the only way to attract fans. The teams sure as fuck aren't a draw.

tommymac

01-29-2010, 02:44 PM

What? Who cares. Sucka, we play our games in teh fucking weather. You ass clowns have shiny new domes. It's the only way to attract fans. The teams sure as fuck aren't a draw.

the domes keep the stray bullets out too :lol:

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:45 PM

the domes keep the stray bullets out too :lol:
No shit. Can't see your target you have much better chance of survival if you're in there.

Rider

01-29-2010, 02:49 PM

The only dome that we have is Ford Field. Baseball is still outside an they have a great draw. Oh well JLA is inside but so is the Igloo and every other arena in the country.

marko138

01-29-2010, 02:55 PM

The only dome that we have is Ford Field. Baseball is still outside an they have a great draw. Oh well JLA is inside but so is the Igloo and every other arena in the country.
No shit. But your teams suck ballz. We've got plenty of recent champs in the Keystone State, jag off.

t-homo

01-29-2010, 02:58 PM

Just watched the last 15 or so minutes of a blues game. Tried to watch one last night on fox sports midwest, but while tv guide said it was a game, it was best damn sports show. Gay.

Rider

01-29-2010, 03:07 PM

No shit. But your teams suck ballz. We've got plenty of recent champs in the Keystone State, jag off.

Oh yeah the 76ers are a powerhouse. Oh and the Pirates, yeah more like butt pirates and the Flyers.... no need to elaborate here. How many Big 10 titles does Penn St have? Not as many as UM.

marko138

01-29-2010, 05:30 PM

Oh yeah the 76ers are a powerhouse. Oh and the Pirates, yeah more like butt pirates and the Flyers.... no need to elaborate here. How many Big 10 titles does Penn St have? Not as many as UM.
Are you being serious right now? The Sixers? Who watches basketball? No one I know. Pirates, eh...can't say much about them.

What have the Wolverines, the Tigers, the Pistons, the Lions, the Wings, or the Spartans done for you lately? Allow me to answer, nothing.

Walk on home, boy.

tommymac

01-29-2010, 05:41 PM

Are you being serious right now? The Sixers? Who watches basketball? No one I know. Pirates, eh...can't say much about them.

What have the Wolverines, the Tigers, the Pistons, the Lions, the Wings, or the Spartans done for you lately? Allow me to answer, nothing.

Walk on home, boy.

NY isnt that bad, we have the yankmees (even though I hate them) the giants and jets, the sabres are playing well, basketball, well they suck and who cares. Collegeball not much here syracuse is about it and they havent been realy good in a long time.