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pauldun170
01-27-2010, 11:22 AM
http://vehiclehistory.gov/

Fed launches national auto database to curb theft, fraud. Only took 17 years

You may or may not know this, but that used vehicle on sale at your local dealership with a "clean" title could have been wrecked, stolen or involved in a flood. So much for the pristine title that you looked at before purchasing the vehicle. Congress and the Justice Department have known about this problem for decades and in 1992 the nation's governing body ordered the creation of a national database to show which vehicles were involved in thefts or other incidents.

That's a step in the right direction for sure, one that took a full 17 years to come to fruition. The feds have finally released the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System, a comprehensive list of 300 million vehicles. The national database will reportedly save Americans $4 billion to $11 billion per year in fraudulent claims. That's a lot of money because there are a lot of fraudulent transactions every year. Experian claims there were 185,000 damaged vehicles that were retitled in another state, providing a fraudulent clean bill of health. The Detroit News says over one million vehicles are stolen each year and retitled in another state.

Now that the federal database is online, customers and dealers will be able to find out whether the vehicle was salvaged, scrapped or reported stolen almost anywhere in the U.S. Unfortunately, only 77 percent of vehicles are covered under the new database because five states opted not to participate. The five states not participating are Oregon, Illinois, Mississippi, Kansas and the District of Columbia. All four states reportedly cited budget problems as the reason for not being included in the registry.

Customers and dealers can go to vehiclehistory.gov for more information. There are even links to a pair of government-approved sites where you can run a Vehicle Identification Number for $4.95. It may be a bit annoying to pay for a service that was provided largely by federal tax dollars, but it beats the heck out of purchasing a vehicle that was in a serious accident or was found in six feet of water.
http://www.autoblog.com/

Dave
01-27-2010, 11:23 AM
bad idea

karl_1052
01-27-2010, 01:44 PM
carfax?

askmrjesus
01-27-2010, 02:52 PM
bad idea

Lemme guess, 4th Amendment? :lol:

JC

derf
01-27-2010, 08:07 PM
carfax?

My thoughts exactly

Dave
01-27-2010, 08:17 PM
Lemme guess, 4th Amendment? :lol:

JC

enthusiast. its hard enough to find clean projects as it is. i dont need big brother's dick any deeper in my hobbies than it already is

BobTheBiker
01-27-2010, 08:36 PM
Carfax is a huge scam. they only report what is reported to the insurance company, or what is in fact reported to anyone.

what carfax DOES NOT do, is tell you if a car was wrecked in bumfuck and fixed in some rednecks yard and never spoken of to insurance.

Adeptus_Minor
01-28-2010, 01:36 AM
what carfax DOES NOT do, is tell you if a car was wrecked in bumfuck and fixed in some rednecks yard and never spoken of to insurance.

Well, I don't think ANY database or system can prevent fraud on that level... and if it could, I'm not sure I'd want it.
That'd be way too invasive.

Flexin
01-31-2010, 01:59 AM
carfax?

Carfax misses a lot. They say Car Proof is better. Thats what I used when I sold cars.

James

101lifts2
01-31-2010, 02:48 AM
So now I gotta go to Oregon to jack cars to sell in Cali?

Used car prices just went up boys.

101lifts2
01-31-2010, 02:53 AM
I love it how the government toutes how much the taxpayer is going to save, when in fact it is not their intention at all. Why would the government care if insurance companies are frauded? They don't. What they do care about is better control over it's people.

Tmall
01-31-2010, 11:12 AM
Well, I don't think ANY database or system can prevent fraud on that level... and if it could, I'm not sure I'd want it.
That'd be way too invasive.



How is that fraud? If you don't claim something and fix it yourself, are you obligated to report it to your ins company?

Flexin
01-31-2010, 11:30 AM
How is that fraud? If you don't claim something and fix it yourself, are you obligated to report it to your ins company?

Not that I know about. I have had small accidents where I paid to fix my car myself. One required a new hood, bummper, headlight mounts and a few other odds and ends. I had a body shop paint the parts and then instslled it all myself. There was no need to call the insurance company because they were not paying for it.

The next owner knew about the accident because it was my brother.

James