Konig Wheels

[Rider]

Do any of you guys know anything about Konig wheels? Apparently my OEM wheels on my Maxima need replacing. The paint/clear coat is flaking off around the tire bead and the bead is not seating properly so air is slowly leaking out. The guy at the shop recommended some Konig Zero In wheels. I know these are pretty inexpensive wheels but remember this is a 13yo car so I don't want to spend a lot of money on wheels. Just wondering what you car guys think.


Konig Zero In:
http://image.modified.com/f/22472972/modp_0908_02_o+august_2009_mod_gear+konig_zero_in_ wheel.jpg

[pauldun170]

They are part of Icon Helmet'ss "rimz" line.

(In other words...no idea...but if i were you...don't get em wet and don't feed tham after midnight)

[defector]

Wow. The pic of the wheel is actual size.

[Homeslice]

They've been one of the biggest brands for years. Nothing wrong with them.

I would price-check on Tire Rack though.

Also make sure the "offset" measurement is close to yours, otherwise they will stick out or stick in too much.

[defector]

So are the wheels pitted around the bead area?

[Rider]

So are the wheels pitted around the bead area?

Yes they are pitting too.

They've been one of the biggest brands for years. Nothing wrong with them.

I would price-check on Tire Rack though.

Also make sure the "offset" measurement is close to yours, otherwise they will stick out or stick in too much.

How can I tell what the OEM offset is?

[marko138]

Say, I can't really see that pic. Can you make it a little bigger?

[Homeslice]

Offset is usually stamped on the wheel, it'll say something like "35mm" or "50mm"

If not, just call Tirerack they can look it up.

[Rider]

Say, I can't really see that pic. Can you make it a little bigger?

I didn't want to bother you with old man glasses to go along with your old man shoes.

[marko138]

I didn't want to bother you with old man glasses to go along with your old man shoes.
Sucker.

[Cutty72]

Not a bad brand at all. We fitted quite a few sets when I worked at the dealership with not complaints.
Like said, be sure that the offset is matched, or very close.

[Homeslice]

I just can't see how pitted/peeling paint would cause a noticeable air leak. How much pressure does it drop a week?

[pauldun170]

I just can't see how pitted/peeling paint would cause a noticeable air leak. How much pressure does it drop a week?

I've had that problem before. My old Probe had the factory chrome rims and at the ten year mark one of the rims would no longer seal. I had it fixed. At the the 13 year mark another rim started to leak.

It got to the point where I'd drop about 5psi a day

[Rider]

Not a bad brand at all. We fitted quite a few sets when I worked at the dealership with not complaints.
Like said, be sure that the offset is matched, or very close.

Yeah it looks like the +40mm offset is a very common size.

[Rider]

I just can't see how pitted/peeling paint would cause a noticeable air leak. How much pressure does it drop a week?

I haven't measured the pressure before filling it. I'll just notice it's visibly low and fill it to 35psi. Today the pressure was way down to like 10psi so I took it to discount tire where I bought the tire to have them check for a nail. No punctures anywhere. So 25 psi over probably 2 weeks is a lot. The service tech showed me how the clear coat was just flaking off badly. 13 years in the salt belt isn't a bad lifespan for rims.

[defector]

Yes they are pitting too.




I would have them wire brush it and hit it with bead sealer. Should stop the leak. It will make it a bitch to break the bead when it is time for new tires, but that really isn't your problem is it?

[Riceaholic]

I had a set on my Prelude for a few years. They were pretty nice. Easy to get center caps for also because they're a pretty common brand.

[Homeslice]

Yeah it looks like the +40mm offset is a very common size.

The lower the offset, the more the rims will stick out. If you want them to stick out a bit more, you could safely drop it to like 35-36mm.

[Rider]

The lower the offset, the more the rims will stick out. If you want them to stick out a bit more, you could safely drop it to like 35-36mm.

I don't want them to stick out. The OEM look is fine with me. I looking for some used 18'' Inifiti rims now.

[Homeslice]

I've had that problem before. My old Probe had the factory chrome rims and at the ten year mark one of the rims would no longer seal. I had it fixed. At the the 13 year mark another rim started to leak.


You, mad pimpin with chrome rims? Did you buy it new?

[Rider]

You, mad pimpin with chrome rims? Did you buy it new?

No chrome rims...yuck! and yes I bought it new.

[pauldun170]

You, mad pimpin with chrome rims? Did you buy it new?

1995 Probe GT factory chrome wheels.
I bought it second hand in 1999 from a dealer.
Great car
Literally drove the wheels off it.

[pauldun170]

No chrome rims...yuck! and yes I bought it new.

BAH :lol:

Thread reading FAIL!!!

[Amber Lamps]

Do any of you guys know anything about Konig wheels? Apparently my OEM wheels on my Maxima need replacing. The paint/clear coat is flaking off around the tire bead and the bead is not seating properly so air is slowly leaking out. The guy at the shop recommended some Konig Zero In wheels. I know these are pretty inexpensive wheels but remember this is a 13yo car so I don't want to spend a lot of money on wheels. Just wondering what you car guys think.


Konig Zero In:
http://image.modified.com/f/22472972/modp_0908_02_o+august_2009_mod_gear+konig_zero_in_ wheel.jpg

I don't know what these cost but you could get your old rims stripped and powder coated for less than $200 I'd bet.

[TYEster]

Typical 350Z forum response "Crap wheels because their not Volks"


I say their decent and can't be hard to refinish or replace since every Discount Tire, NTB and low-budget tire dealer around here stocks them.

[Homeslice]

Do a search on wheel weights first.......One model of wheel might be 10 lbs heavier than another even though they look similar

[Rider]

Do a search on wheel weights first.......One model of wheel might be 10 lbs heavier than another even though they look similar

I think these wheels are 18lbs. Lighter than OEM that's for sure.

[Rider]

I don't know what these cost but you could get your old rims stripped and powder coated for less than $200 I'd bet.

Yeah but I go for several days without my car. At least not in the winter. When spring comes around and I am riding the bike them maybe. Besides I can sell the OEM rims of the Maxima board for probably $200 for the set. That will offset the cost of these new rims. Remember, this car is going to be my son's car in less than 3 years. I'm not spending mad money on it nor am I going to spend much time on labor to refinish the OEM rims. If my son want's the OEM rims, I'll keep them and let him refinish them. I have better things to do with my time.

[Flexin]

I just can't see how pitted/peeling paint would cause a noticeable air leak. How much pressure does it drop a week?

The chrome rims on the Oldsmobile I had started peeling and they would drop air way to fast. Killed a set of front tires. I replaced mine with Konig because it was cheaper then trying to get the OEM rims chromed again.


James

[Homeslice]

I think these wheels are 18lbs. Lighter than OEM that's for sure.

Yeah that's pretty good. Are they the same width and diameter?

[Flexin]

I would have them wire brush it and hit it with bead sealer. Should stop the leak. It will make it a bitch to break the bead when it is time for new tires, but that really isn't your problem is it?

That works great on steal rims but not so good on chrome.

James

[Rider]

Yeah that's pretty good. Are they the same width and diameter?

Yes they are.

[Homeslice]

The chrome rims on the Oldsmobile I had started peeling and they would drop air way to fast. Killed a set of front tires. I replaced mine with Konig because it was cheaper then trying to get the OEM rims chromed again.


James

So is it just chrome that has a problem? I guess chrome flakes are thicker than paint flakes? Because I haven't heard of anybody with regular-painted wheels who experienced this problem.

[Rider]

So is it just chrome that has a problem? I guess chrome flakes are thicker than paint flakes? Because I haven't heard of anybody with regular-painted wheels who experienced this problem.

The guy at the shop said it was a common occurrence in MI. Oh and I found out the OEM wheels are 6.5" wide and these Konigs are 7". Does that matter?

[Flexin]

So is it just chrome that has a problem? I guess chrome flakes are thicker than paint flakes? Because I haven't heard of anybody with regular-painted wheels who experienced this problem.

Much thicker. On mine it was hard to rip off. It is thicker than paper and stiff. They tried to clean mine and then seal them but it didn't help. When I wreaked two good tires I had enough.

James

[Homeslice]

Powdercoating would last longer than paint, from what I heard. But, it doesn't look as good as a decent paint/clearcoat job.

[Cutty72]

The guy at the shop said it was a common occurrence in MI. Oh and I found out the OEM wheels are 6.5" wide and these Konigs are 7". Does that matter?

means you can put a wider tire on there if you want.

shouldn't cause an issue with your current tires unless they are on the narrow end of what fits on a 6.5" rim.

[Homeslice]

The guy at the shop said it was a common occurrence in MI. Oh and I found out the OEM wheels are 6.5" wide and these Konigs are 7". Does that matter?

Both OEM and Konig are 40mm offset, right?

Then the only thing that'll happen is that the new rims will stick out 0.25" more (not 0.5").

What tire size do you plan on using? I would go either 215 or 225........That's as wide as you should go on 7" rims, otherwise you get too much sidewall bulge & flex.

[Rider]

Both OEM and Konig are 40mm offset, right?

Then the only thing that'll happen is that the new rims will stick out 0.25" more (not 0.5").

What tire size do you plan on using? I would go either 215 or 225........That's as wide as you should go on 7" rims, otherwise you get too much sidewall bulge & flex.

Both are 40mm offset. OEM tire size is 215/55-16

[Homeslice]

Hmm, 55 series is quite a high profile these days.

Me personally, I would switch to a 225/50, it would give you 10mm more tire width, and it would lower the car by about 6mm (not a noticeable difference), and stiffen the sidwall a bit (since lower-profile tires are stiffer). Plus it's a more common size, so you would have more tire choices.

[Rider]

Hmm, 55 series is quite a high profile these days.

Me personally, I would switch to a 225/50, it would give you 10mm more tire width, and it would lower the car by about 6mm (not a noticeable difference), and stiffen the sidwall a bit (since lower-profile tires are stiffer). Plus it's a more common size, so you would have more tire choices.

That's what I was thinking.

Over on the Maxima board I found a set of brand new 235/45-18 for cheap($400 OBO) I don't even know if 235's on OEM offset would fit in my wheel well. That would look sweet though.

[Homeslice]

I like to use tirerack's website to see whether a certain wheel/tire combination will fit, because they've already test-fitted everything and know whether it will work. When you enter your make and model, they only list stuff that will fit. Also they will include hub-centric rings with your purchase, to fill in the gap between your hub and the new wheels.

[101lifts2]

I haven't measured the pressure before filling it. I'll just notice it's visibly low and fill it to 35psi. Today the pressure was way down to like 10psi so I took it to discount tire where I bought the tire to have them check for a nail. No punctures anywhere. So 25 psi over probably 2 weeks is a lot. The service tech showed me how the clear coat was just flaking off badly. 13 years in the salt belt isn't a bad lifespan for rims.

A trick (if the wheel is not pitted) is to remove the wheel and use motor oil as a sealant. Works great.

That sticky goop shit that the tire places use works great as well. But, the tire shop should have submerged the thing in water.

[OneSickPsycho]

I'd hit up Craigslist to find some gangsta who just upgraded his wheels and is selling his stockers, with tires for $100.

[Rider]

Paid for the wheels last Friday, and they had to have them shipped over from Detroit so they should go on tomorrow or Friday. These Konigs were $505 OTD so I figur if I clean up the OEM rims and refinish them I should be able to make most of that money back up. The OEM wheels are $500 new each. My wheels have no cube rash at all so a little clean up and a fresh clear coat and I should be able to sell them on the Maxima board for at least $400 for the set.

[marko138]

I'd hit up Craigslist to find some gangsta who just upgraded his wheels and is selling his stockers, with tires for $100.
Now there's a plan.

[Rider]

Now there's a plan.

I don't want anyone's rejects. It's just how I roll.

[Homeslice]

I don't want anyone's rejects. It's just how I roll.

Word to that. Most of the time when people sell something it's because it's fucked in some way.

[Rider]

Word to that. Most of the time when people sell something it's because it's fucked in some way.

Yep and the new rims are on now. :rockwoot: I should go take a pic. I'll be right back.

[Rider]

Yes the cars is dirty I know but it's winter in MI, whats a motherfucker to do?

[Homeslice]

Any change in handling? Should accel & brake better too because of the lighter wt.

[marko138]

Don't like.

[Rider]

Any change in handling? Should accel & brake better too because of the lighter wt.

I haven't had a chance to open it up as the shop is only a few miles from work. I did notice though at moderate acceleration the RPM wound out a little quicker. Braking I didn't pay much attention. I'll take note on the drive home.

[Rider]

Don't like.

Might look better with the tires cleaned up. I'm also planning on painting the calipers red the match the wheel stripe.

[Cutty72]

but the car is blue/green? :idk:

[Rider]

but the car is blue/green? :idk:

Sage green.

[Cutty72]

that too.

[Homeslice]

Don't like.

Valuable input.

[Rider]

that too.

You think it would look better if I removed the red wheel stripe?

[Homeslice]

I haven't had a chance to open it up as the shop is only a few miles from work. I did notice though at moderate acceleration the RPM wound out a little quicker. Braking I didn't pay much attention. I'll take note on the drive home.

Also if you're 225/50 now the diameter is less, so quicker to wind up

[Rider]

Also if you're 225/50 now the diameter is less, so quicker to wind up

I'm still on the 215/55 since the tires were still good. On the next set of tires I'll got 225/50. Also since the tires are non directional, I think they put a couple of the tires back on turned around so the old non armor-all'd side is facing out now. I'll have to fix that when i get home and treat it with some armor-all.

[Cutty72]

You think it would look better if I removed the red wheel stripe?

yes

[Rider]

yes

I can't, I found out it's actually painted on. Oh and steering response is much quicker. Accelerates a little quicker but I haven't noticed a difference in braking. I already had awesome brakes on it. Brembo rotors with Hawk HPS pads.

[marko138]

Valuable input.

You're welcome, princess.

[Mrs. Colleen]

I was going to tell you I like mine but I guess it is a little too late for my opinion. :lol:

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