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karl_1052
01-27-2010, 02:25 PM
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/metzeler-sportec-m5-interact/

CasterTroy
01-27-2010, 02:26 PM
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Gas Man
01-27-2010, 05:57 PM
That's kinda cool.

askmrjesus
01-27-2010, 06:03 PM
Gimmick.

I can already tell how far you lean without a scale.

JC

Dave
01-27-2010, 06:28 PM
who couldnt honestly hit the five?

dReWpY
01-27-2010, 06:35 PM
gimmick, but pretty neat idea, i always use the puff marshmellow man, when he is gone, job well done :lol:

that being said i am a lil surprised about how the buell leans compared to the rc, i have been on the actual side wall of the pp on the rc, but can only barely hit the absolute edge of the corsaIIIs on the buelll, i know alot has to do with the rim size difference, buts its still a surprise to this retard

tommymac
01-27-2010, 06:49 PM
gimmick, but pretty neat idea, i always use the puff marshmellow man, when he is gone, job well done :lol:

that being said i am a lil surprised about how the buell leans compared to the rc, i have been on the actual side wall of the pp on the rc, but can only barely hit the absolute edge of the corsaIIIs on the buelll, i know alot has to do with the rim size difference, buts its still a surprise to this retard

Killing the ole michelin man :lol:

I still have room to go on the buell but the 2 times I had it out and wanted to rail the road conditions were less than optimal :(

smileyman
01-27-2010, 07:48 PM
I have leaned out CBRs, Buells, and SVs. The Buell and SV were totalled...

dReWpY
01-27-2010, 08:26 PM
what kinda buell was it?

smileyman
01-27-2010, 09:09 PM
08 1125R. I lowsided no biggie. 4700 in damage. I am having her rebuilt.

Trip
01-27-2010, 09:10 PM
who couldnt honestly hit the five?

A lot of people. Five is easy. I have killed numerous Michelin Men and Pitchforks.

Thumper996
01-27-2010, 09:10 PM
Gimmick.

I can already tell how far you lean without a scale.

JC

Yea, same hear and i lean this sucker enough to drag a peg and a knee and that is getting her way over.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Thumper996/CRF%20450%20Engine/CRFEngineRebuild048.jpg

Trip
01-27-2010, 09:11 PM
08 1125R. I lowsided no biggie. 4700 in damage. I am having her rebuilt.

you already wrecked your new bike? When was this?

smileyman
01-27-2010, 09:17 PM
you already wrecked your new bike? When was this?
Oct 25th at 12:30 pm. It is still at the dealer, I have a new titanium plate and bone graft to boot.

Dave
01-27-2010, 09:32 PM
A lot of people. Five is easy. I have killed numerous Michelin Men and Pitchforks.


thats seriously frightening. i suck, live in a not very curvy state and can easily get that far over

derf
01-27-2010, 09:36 PM
thats seriously frightening. i suck, live in a not very curvy state and can easily get that far over

Go up into the Jackson/Minallipan area, or out into PA and there are more than enough curves

Amber Lamps
01-27-2010, 09:36 PM
Oct 25th at 12:30 pm. It is still at the dealer, I have a new titanium plate and bone graft to boot.

I'm sorry to hear about that bro! You know for $4700 you could probably just about buy a new one... Honestly, not trying to be nasty, just saying...

smileyman
01-27-2010, 10:18 PM
True but I thought she deserved a second chance. I am taking the opportunity to install red badywork, a 21.5 degree rake kit, fender eliminator, stickier tires, and a slip on. It'll have a new subframe and forks and swingarm. Some might call it a rebuild, i'll call it 'Smileyized'

Amber Lamps
01-27-2010, 10:31 PM
True but I thought she deserved a second chance. I am taking the opportunity to install red badywork, a 21.5 degree rake kit, fender eliminator, stickier tires, and a slip on. It'll have a new subframe and forks and swingarm. Some might call it a rebuild, i'll call it 'Smileyized'

So they totalled it and you bought it back?

Dave
01-27-2010, 10:36 PM
Go up into the Jackson/Minallipan area, or out into PA and there are more than enough curves

i usually head southeast to chatsworth and parts unknown

dReWpY
01-27-2010, 11:22 PM
Yea, same hear and i lean this sucker enough to drag a peg and a knee and that is getting her way over.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Thumper996/CRF%20450%20Engine/CRFEngineRebuild048.jpg

Did u ever take this bike to nss under the lights?

Thumper996
01-27-2010, 11:49 PM
Did u ever take this bike to nss under the lights?

Yep yep, she was there last August on Friday night along with her sister the KTM950 Supermoto. Of course you know which one had faster lap times, the CRF.

The little one lung fourfifty will only do 99 MPH (GPS reading), but she kills the turns. I am dragging peg and knee like crazy in right hander turn three and killing around the bottom of NASCAR 3 and 4.

She is a blast at Barber as well. I kinda got in trouble with the Rider coach last time at Barber for passing sport bikes on the outside in several turns.

You really have to be on your game riding one of these with sportbike riders of equal riding skill as yourself or you will run all over them entering a turn, because you hardly use any breaks on this sucker and dive way later into turns than a sportbike rider of equal riding skill.

If i get her back out on the street i will let you throw a leg over her, she is easy to ride and will make you want to get rid of your sport bike.

tommymac
01-27-2010, 11:55 PM
Yep yep, she was there last August on Friday night along with her sister the KTM950 Supermoto. Of course you know which one had faster lap times, the CRF.

The little one lung fourfifty will only do 99 MPH (GPS reading), but she kills the turns. I am dragging peg and knee like crazy in right hander turn three and killing around the bottom of NASCAR 3 and 4.

She is a blast at Barber as well. I kinda got in trouble with the Rider coach last time at Barber for passing sport bikes on the outside in several turns.

You really have to be on your game riding one of these with sportbike riders of equal riding skill as yourself or you will run all over them entering a turn, because you hardly use any breaks on this sucker and dive way later into turns than a sportbike rider of equal riding skill.

If i get her back out on the street i will let you throw a leg over her, she is easy to ride and will make you want to get rid of your sport bike.

I almost killed my self following one into turn 1 at beaver. I passed him on the straight, then he repassed me going into one. Was a clean pass but I was like you sneaky bastid :lol: so I tried following him through the turn and quickly realized this isnt going to work:wtfru: not realy sure how I amde the turn or soiled my underwear but I learned not to follow motards through turns :lol:

Thumper996
01-28-2010, 12:10 AM
I almost killed my self following one into turn 1 at beaver. I passed him on the straight, then he repassed me going into one. Was a clean pass but I was like you sneaky bastid :lol: so I tried following him through the turn and quickly realized this isnt going to work:wtfru: not realy sure how I amde the turn or soiled my underwear but I learned not to follow motards through turns :lol:

Yea, when i get her out on the street i tell my buddies to not judge their turn entry speeds based on my speed as i enter turns waaayyyyyyy faster on a motard than i do on my sport bikes.

I know what you mean on the striaghts at track days, the sportbikes get you about midway down the striaght and you have to line up a bike or so to their right or left entering the turn as it is like they threw out a parachute when they hit their braking point and you are still WFO. It can be a little scary, but inside the helmet its fun as hell passing sportbikes in a turn on a dirt bike draggin peg and knee. They know you are there cause the sucker has a pretty healthy breath if you know what i mean.

tommymac
01-28-2010, 12:48 AM
Yea, when i get her out on the street i tell my buddies to not judge their turn entry speeds based on my speed as i enter turns waaayyyyyyy faster on a motard than i do on my sport bikes.

I know what you mean on the striaghts at track days, the sportbikes get you about midway down the striaght and you have to line up a bike or so to their right or left entering the turn as it is like they threw out a parachute when they hit their braking point and you are still WFO. It can be a little scary, but inside the helmet its fun as hell passing sportbikes in a turn on a dirt bike draggin peg and knee. They know you are there cause the sucker has a pretty healthy breath if you know what i mean.

I have had a few battles with motards on the somewhat smaller tracks I will overtake em on the straights and they would catch me a few turns later. on the larger tracks like summit they just cant compete with the longer straightaway.

dReWpY
01-28-2010, 01:41 AM
Yep yep, she was there last August on Friday night along with her sister the KTM950 Supermoto. Of course you know which one had faster lap times, the CRF.

The little one lung fourfifty will only do 99 MPH (GPS reading), but she kills the turns. I am dragging peg and knee like crazy in right hander turn three and killing around the bottom of NASCAR 3 and 4.

She is a blast at Barber as well. I kinda got in trouble with the Rider coach last time at Barber for passing sport bikes on the outside in several turns.

You really have to be on your game riding one of these with sportbike riders of equal riding skill as yourself or you will run all over them entering a turn, because you hardly use any breaks on this sucker and dive way later into turns than a sportbike rider of equal riding skill.

If i get her back out on the street i will let you throw a leg over her, she is easy to ride and will make you want to get rid of your sport bike.


I think I have been on the track with you before when I had the rc, hell I think I even pitted near you and lined up right next to you lol

tommymac
01-28-2010, 01:50 AM
I think I have been on the track with you before when I had the rc, hell I think I even pitted near you and lined up right next to you lol

Yoju dont have a huge trailer/toyhauler do you? I remember a guy on an RC down at summit a couple of years ago.

dReWpY
01-28-2010, 02:09 AM
nah, i know rc's are rare, but i actually ride to the td's tape up the lights and letter rip

karl_1052
01-28-2010, 08:03 AM
So they totalled it and you bought it back?

That would be sweet if they gave him MSRP, he could buy 2.

Kerry_129
01-28-2010, 08:29 AM
Great - I wonder how many bikes will get chucked due to consciously trying to 'go for a 5' (just like I've seen happen a few times when someone is making a goal of 'getting a knee down'). :shrug:


nah, i know rc's are rare, but i actually ride to the td's tape up the lights and letter rip

:dthumb: That takes some confidence & endurance! :lol: (assuming you're not talking about just nss - but still, riding home after a trackday... whew!)

smileyman
01-28-2010, 09:16 AM
I have had a few battles with motards on the somewhat smaller tracks I will overtake em on the straights and they would catch me a few turns later. on the larger tracks like summit they just cant compete with the longer straightaway.

When I was club racing my SV in the CMRA they used 'Lightweight GP' as a catch all class. We had Air cooled Ducs, SVs, 125 GP frames and any and all cc Motards. Made for a 3 wave start and lots of crazy action.

Cutty72
01-28-2010, 10:04 AM
who couldnt honestly hit the five?

A few people I know weren't there yet when I left. Both had been riding for a couple years.
One, on a ZX6R, after riding with him one time I told him I refused to ride with him, but would help teach him... in the parking lot, so he could learn to turn/lean etc. He did agree and got better, but still dangerous on the street.

Another is a friend of a friend, put 1000 miles on a 250 ninja before picking up a FZ6. He dropped the FZ 3 blocks from the dealership on a sandy corner. Ever since then he's just been scared. Then again, he thinks I'm crazy the way I lean over the bike.

Both of those guys were probably between the 2 and 3.

gimmick, but pretty neat idea, i always use the puff marshmellow man, when he is gone, job well done :lol:

that being said i am a lil surprised about how the buell leans compared to the rc, i have been on the actual side wall of the pp on the rc, but can only barely hit the absolute edge of the corsaIIIs on the buelll, i know alot has to do with the rim size difference, buts its still a surprise to this retard

Remember that the Corsa and the PP have different profiles as well
When I replaced the tires first thing I did was to go out on the highway and weave back and forth in my lane to "scuff" the tires a bit. On the Corsa's, I had a good 1/8" or so of chicken strip. On the PP it was right to the edge, on the rears at least.
Just another thing to keep in mind.

CasterTroy
01-28-2010, 01:28 PM
She is a blast at Barber as well.

I hesitate to take mine to Barber, as CMP has two areas that I can only go 105 and I get raped for that stretch....I too reel several back in in the corners, but with 2 straights, it's hard to make headway.

Is Barber as bad?

Trip
01-28-2010, 01:33 PM
I hesitate to take mine to Barber, as CMP has two areas that I can only go 105 and I get raped for that stretch....I too reel several back in in the corners, but with 2 straights, it's hard to make headway.

Is Barber as bad?

Barber has to be worse, it has several long straights. A lot longer than CMP and a lot more of them.

Thumper996
01-28-2010, 02:08 PM
It is kind of a double edge sword. I typically run Intermidiate class, which is where i belong anyway. If i have a sport bike that is running pretty much my lap time i can usually get them and hammer thru the turns enough to eventualy not allow them to overtake me in the striaght. Once i reach that milestone its all over, they are no catching me again.

The real problem is you pretty much run the motards flat out, so if you get stuck behind a sportbike entering a turn they kill your momentum and lap times.

Still fun though, i hope to do Barber, Nashville (it's 15 min form my house) and little Tally. Little tally should be perfect for the motard.

Rider
01-28-2010, 02:14 PM
Even the newest of newbs could get to the 5. I had my tires scrubbed sidewall to sidewall within 6 months of riding on the street for the first time.

smileyman
01-28-2010, 02:57 PM
Scrubbin to the edges is easy, just ride fast and dont use any body position/lean. The bike will hafta lean farther without you hanging off and walla, no strips.

Or go gung ho and hang off while running ridiculously low lean and risk getting killed due to not having any margin for error. All so you can brag about how shredded your tire is...

Tmall
01-28-2010, 03:15 PM
Scrubbin to the edges is easy, just ride fast and dont use any body position/lean. The bike will hafta lean farther without you hanging off and walla, no strips.

Or go gung ho and hang off while running ridiculously low lean and risk getting killed due to not having any margin for error. All so you can brag about how shredded your tire is...

Walla?

dReWpY
01-28-2010, 03:29 PM
walla=imagic sound

Kerry_129
01-28-2010, 03:35 PM
To all the '5 is easy, anybody can do it' guys - When is the last time you've looked at the chicken-strips at a typical bike-night? :lol:

Tmall
01-28-2010, 03:36 PM
walla=imagic sound

Oh, "voila" the french word for "ta-da, there it is". Gotcha.

CasterTroy
01-28-2010, 03:40 PM
It is kind of a double edge sword. I typically run Intermidiate class, which is where i belong anyway. If i have a sport bike that is running pretty much my lap time i can usually get them and hammer thru the turns enough to eventualy not allow them to overtake me in the striaght. Once i reach that milestone its all over, they are no catching me again.

The real problem is you pretty much run the motards flat out, so if you get stuck behind a sportbike entering a turn they kill your momentum and lap times.

Still fun though, i hope to do Barber, Nashville (it's 15 min form my house) and little Tally. Little tally should be perfect for the motard.

I run intermediate, but at CMP they run both Int/adv at the same time.....the advanced sportbike riders typically can get around me once.....but only ONE (some CCS racer) can get around me 2 times in a 20 minute session at CMP :lmao: (he was friggin NUTS and passed ME in a corner)

I can't claim to get far enough ahead in the curves for any of the sportbikes to NOT catch me again on those straights. If you can do it.....you must be right at the threshold of sponsership on a motard (hats off)

dReWpY
01-28-2010, 03:42 PM
I run intermediate, but at CMP they run both Int/adv at the same time.....the advanced sportbike riders typically can get around me once.....but only ONE (some CCS racer) can get around me 2 times in a 20 minute session at CMP :lmao: (he was friggin NUTS and passed ME in a corner)

I can't claim to get far enough ahead in the curves for any of the sportbikes to NOT catch me again on those straights. If you can do it.....you must be right at the threshold of sponsership on a motard (hats off)

dudes quick

karl_1052
01-28-2010, 04:01 PM
To all the '5 is easy, anybody can do it' guys - When is the last time you've looked at the chicken-strips at a typical bike-night? :lol:

On my 190/50 I am below the tail of that elephant, and 190/50s suck, and I suck even more.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2hns4lk.jpg

Tmall
01-28-2010, 04:26 PM
On my 190/50 I am below the tail of that elephant, and 190/50s suck, and I suck even more.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2hns4lk.jpg

This, I'm under the pitchfork on the corsa 3 on front of my bike, and I am NOT good. :lol

racedoll
01-28-2010, 09:57 PM
To all the '5 is easy, anybody can do it' guys - When is the last time you've looked at the chicken-strips at a typical bike-night? :lol:

It is sad, but this is one of the first things I look at when checking out another bike.

Thumper996
01-28-2010, 11:10 PM
It is sad, but this is one of the first things I look at when checking out another bike.

I got to agree with you there, i am usually looking at other bikes tires when we meet for a group ride. If they are toast or huge chicken strips i am keeping my distance till i see how they ride.

I consider myself an average rider, but i don't want to get taken out by someone on wore out tires or riding over their head.

Thumper996
01-28-2010, 11:14 PM
I can't claim to get far enough ahead in the curves for any of the sportbikes to NOT catch me again on those straights. If you can do it.....you must be right at the threshold of sponsership on a motard (hats off)

haha, i got a good chuckle out of that, dude i am way to old to be racing bikes. It's all about having fun, isn't it.....

dReWpY
01-28-2010, 11:19 PM
I got to agree with you there, i am usually looking at other bikes tires when we meet for a group ride. If they are toast or huge chicken strips i am keeping my distance till i see how they ride.

I consider myself an average rider, but i don't want to get taken out by someone on wore out tires or riding over their head.

You know what's funny about that, on Saturday someone asked me if I had just been to the track

Thumper996
01-28-2010, 11:26 PM
You know what's funny about that, on Saturday someone asked me if I had just been to the track

Yea it was 70, 141, 96 :dribble:

racedoll
01-30-2010, 09:49 PM
I got to agree with you there, i am usually looking at other bikes tires when we meet for a group ride. If they are toast or huge chicken strips i am keeping my distance till i see how they ride.

I consider myself an average rider, but i don't want to get taken out by someone on wore out tires or riding over their head.

Makes sense, though I don't generally ride with people I don't know and if I do I keep my distance regardless.

Kerry_129
01-31-2010, 02:24 AM
I've ridden with you a couple of times now Thumper - I think you're being a little on the modest side. :)

dReWpY
01-31-2010, 03:24 AM
I've ridden with you a couple of times now Thumper - I think you're being a little on the modest side. :)

This.

CasterTroy
01-31-2010, 12:35 PM
I've ridden with you a couple of times now Thumper - I think you're being a little on the modest side. :)

I've rode with you I think twice (back in the Clay & Brian days at shady) and if you're impressed.....dude must be quick

OreoGaborio
01-31-2010, 05:09 PM
I got to agree with you there, i am usually looking at other bikes tires when we meet for a group ride. If they are toast or huge chicken strips i am keeping my distance till i see how they ride.

I consider myself an average rider, but i don't want to get taken out by someone on wore out tires or riding over their head.
I usually run my teammate's Pirelli race take-offs on my street bike when he's done with them (my own take-offs are 160's, my street bike takes a 180). A lot of street-only riders look at me like I've got three heads when they look at my tires. It always makes me chuckle :p

If they ask, I usually tell em the truth & say the tires have some race laps on em... but sometimes I'll play it up a bit & either just give them a head nod as if to say "yeah, that's right... I'm fast" or say I shredded em on my favorite back roads :D

Thumper996
01-31-2010, 11:11 PM
I usually run my teammate's Pirelli race take-offs on my street bike when he's done with them (my own take-offs are 160's, my street bike takes a 180). If they ask, I usually tell em the truth & say the tires have some race laps on em... :D

Yea good to think about, but track tires typically ball up rubber way more than than you can get on the street, so that kind of gives it away.

Over the past two years i have had tow riders go down while i was leading the group ride. Both had really worn out front tire and this most likely played a hufe factor in the crashes.

Thumper996
01-31-2010, 11:18 PM
Makes sense, though I don't generally ride with people I don't know and if I do I keep my distance regardless.

I was sorta the same way, but a buddy of mine and i talked and we wanted to try and meet some other riders this past year. We chose another forum and went to some rides. Needless to say the first friggin ride a guy goes off in the woods and totals his bike. I hated it, the rider was ok, but i had a bad taste in how the ride was going so we busted off and did the rest of the ride on own. Third ride with the same forum and another guy goes down, by now i am having serious thought about riding with new people.

Ended up sticking with it and rode maybe 8 to 10 rides with new riders this year including a ride last week with 9 riders. Of those 9 i think i had only ridden with maybe 2 or 3 of them before and maybe only once or twice. We had a good ride.

Anyway i am Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy of topic here and rambling.

Hurry up spring......

tommymac
01-31-2010, 11:20 PM
I usually run my teammate's Pirelli race take-offs on my street bike when he's done with them (my own take-offs are 160's, my street bike takes a 180). A lot of street-only riders look at me like I've got three heads when they look at my tires. It always makes me chuckle :p

If they ask, I usually tell em the truth & say the tires have some race laps on em... but sometimes I'll play it up a bit & either just give them a head nod as if to say "yeah, that's right... I'm fast" or say I shredded em on my favorite back roads :D

I messed with a few guys like that when I put my takeoffs on my futura, one guy was hip to what I did and was like what ya go tfor a track bike. Told him dont go blowin me up like that :lol: all the squids think I did that on the priller.

Thumper996
01-31-2010, 11:27 PM
Gettin back to the chicken strip issue. I am trying to figure out how to change the pegs on my KTM950SM as i am drggin the crap out of them before the chicken strips are all gone. I am looking at these, but they are not made for the KTM

http://www.mfw-wolf.de/en/products/motorcycle-footrests/vario-mounting-brackets

I have tinkered with my wifes SV650S pegs and think i can buy a setup for the SV and make them work on the Katoom with a little work.

I want to so the opposite of what was done on this thread where they lowered the pegs.

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?p=324363#post324363

marko138
02-01-2010, 11:46 AM
Won't the stupid numbers be worn the hell off really quick?

CrazyKell
02-01-2010, 02:36 PM
Won't the stupid numbers be worn the hell off really quick?
Not on your tire. ;)

marko138
02-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Not on your tire. ;)
Ouch.

CrazyKell
02-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Ouch.

Said with L.O.V.E.

marko138
02-01-2010, 03:37 PM
Said with L.O.V.E.
Sure didn't seem like it.

CrazyKell
02-01-2010, 03:47 PM
Sure didn't seem like it.

Better? :boobs:

marko138
02-01-2010, 03:53 PM
Better? :boobs:
Sure.

CrazyKell
02-01-2010, 03:54 PM
Sure.


Okay. :didntdo:

dReWpY
02-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Boobs make everything better

CrazyKell
02-01-2010, 05:37 PM
Boobs make everything better

this

ceo012384
02-01-2010, 09:56 PM
1. Someone is going to end up suing them after they crash from trying to get the marks gone :lol:

2. I think the elephant and marks at the edge mean "if you're using that much tire on the street it probably means you're a fatass and not a fastass"

dReWpY
02-01-2010, 10:13 PM
Hey, I resemble that comment!

tommymac
02-02-2010, 07:31 AM
1. Someone is going to end up suing them after they crash from trying to get the marks gone :lol:

2. I think the elephant and marks at the edge mean "if you're using that much tire on the street it probably means you're a fatass and not a fastass"

That wouldnt surprise me that one would, yo uknow guys are going to be like look I am down to #3 what # can you get to.

marko138
02-02-2010, 10:07 AM
1. Someone is going to end up suing them after they crash from trying to get the marks gone :lol:

2. I think the elephant and marks at the edge mean "if you're using that much tire on the street it probably means you're a fatass and not a fastass"

:lol: Look at this douche's new name. :lmao: