The Mat Leinart era begins

[tommymac]

Looks like kurt warner is hanging em up

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4870096

So is he a hall of Fame QB or not

[t-homo]

Saw a little of that on FSN.

[Curb]

yes! there are QBs in the hall who have done less...a couple of them are named Dan

[Rider]

Yeah I heard this was speculation on Monday. I'd say yes on the HoF induction.

[tommymac]

Yeah I heard this was speculation on Monday. I'd say yes on the HoF induction.

I think so too, jus tnot sure if he will be a first year of eligibility guy. seems a lot of guys from recent times are going in so you have to wonder if that kind of dilutes the meaning of it.

[Rider]

I think so too, jus tnot sure if he will be a first year of eligibility guy. seems a lot of guys from recent times are going in so you have to wonder if that kind of dilutes the meaning of it.

He may not be a first year inductee but he will become one at some point. Favre will go in before him.

[tommymac]

He may not be a first year inductee but he will become one at some point. Favre will go in before him.

if he ever retires :lol:

[Rider]

if he ever retires :lol:

True but with the way he got hit in the NFC championship game even with the great OL Min has, I'd be surprised if he wasn't done.

[tommymac]

True but with the way he got hit in the NFC championship game even with the great OL Min has, I'd be surprised if he wasn't done.

maybe but at the same time minny has a lot of pieces in place for another title run if he does stay, if he retires theyre screwed unless childress can pry mcnabb away from philly.

[t-homo]

Favre definitely gets seniority over Warner. Warner shouldn't get it, imo. He did well his first couple seasons, then a couple recently, but he isn't hall of fame worthy.

[tommymac]

Favre definitely gets seniority over Warner. Warner shouldn't get it, imo. He did well his first couple seasons, then a couple recently, but he isn't hall of fame worthy.

That seems to be the debate on him, plus he wasnt a full time starter till he was 28. makes ya wonder what would have happened if trent green never got hurt.

[t-homo]

Warner worked at a fucking grocery store after college. He didn't even get drafted.

[tommymac]

Warner worked at a fucking grocery store after college. He didn't even get drafted.

Dont forget his years in arena ball.

it makes for a great story and all but i am up in the air about his HOF credentials. Dont want it to be like you win a super bowl as a QB and are guaranteed a spot in the hall.

[t-homo]

Dont forget his years in arena ball.

it makes for a great story and all but i am up in the air about his HOF credentials. Dont want it to be like you win a super bowl as a QB and are guaranteed a spot in the hall.

Exactly. Trust me, I loved watching him play for the Rams when they won the superbowl, and the couple seasons right in there, but HoF should be reserved for truly amazing QBs.

[tommymac]

Exactly. Trust me, I loved watching him play for the Rams when they won the superbowl, and the couple seasons right in there, but HoF should be reserved for truly amazing QBs.

Also have to add in the years with the giants and even at first with az he was supposed ot keep the spot warm and teach the young up and comming QB's with Eli and Leinart.

I am wondering if leinart stopped partying and thinking hes at usc and gets to work. Hes got an amazing offense to work with, so they could make HIM look good.

[Kaneman]

He's a definite Hall of Famer, he'll be in and deserves it IMO. Sad to see him go, I like watching the old guys play.

[smileyman]

I think he gets the nod. He wasnt a career standout, but did have a successful career and a bowl ring doesnt hurt. Plus he is the kind of story the NFL will want to endorse. Self made guy who worked his way in the hard way. Probably a second round inductee but he's in.

[defector]

He's a definite Hall of Famer, he'll be in and deserves it IMO. Sad to see him go, I like watching the old guys play.

Top 5 in most of the important passing categories, and a true team leader. Yeah, I would say he gets in, as he should.

BTW, the same dude that flattened him also got Favre in the next game.

[marko138]

Dude is first ballot. He's a top notch QB and a standup dude.

[Curb]

If you look at Warner as a person as well as a football player, he belongs there more than anyone. He is a great Humanitarian off the field and true team leader on it. Like I said before, there are men in there who have done less in their lives and on the field. If I had a vote he would be at the top of the list of the class of 2015. But seeing as the world is going to end in 2012 him nor Farve will get in:lol:

[marko138]

If you look at Warner as a person as well as a football player, he belongs there more than anyone. He is a great Humanitarian off the field and true team leader on it. Like I said before, there are men in there who have done less in their lives and on the field. If I had a vote he would be at the top of the list of the class of 2015. But seeing as the world is going to end in 2012 him nor Farve will get in:lol:
Good observation.

[smileyman]

ESPN had a sidebar saying that Warner was number 3 NFL all time pass rating...That's a big stat and I had no idea

[marko138]

ESPN had a sidebar saying that Warner was number 3 NFL all time pass rating...That's a big stat and I had no idea
He's got the numbers for sure.

[karl_1052]

He's got the numbers for sure.


NFL records
Highest completion percentage in a single game (regular season) - 92.3% (24/26) (9/20/09) [35]
Most Yards Passing, Super Bowl (Game) - 414 yards vs. Tennessee Titans (only QB to pass for 400+ yards in the Super Bowl; also owns 2nd and 3rd highest yardage total in Super Bowl with 377 against the Pittsburgh Steelers and 365 against the New England Patriots).[36][37]
Most Yards Passing, Super Bowl (Career) - 1,156
Most Yards Passing, Playoffs (Single Season) - 1,147 (in 2009).
Most touchdown passes in a single postseason - 11 (in 2009, tied w/Joe Montana, who did it in 1990).
Highest career completion percentage, Playoffs - 66.5%
Highest rate of games w/300+ yards passing (min. 100 games played) - 41.9% (52/124)[38]
Most Yards Passing in the first two games of a season (2000) - 827[39]
Most Consecutive Games w/300+ Yards Passing - 6 (tied w/ Steve Young and Rich Gannon)[40]
Most Games with a perfect Passer Rating, Career (regular season only) - 3 (tied w/Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger)[41]
Only NFL quarterback to throw 40 touchdowns and win a Super Bowl in the same season (1999).
Only quarterback to throw for over 14,000 yards with two different teams (St. Louis Rams, Arizona Cardinals)
One of only 2 players in NFL history to throw 100 touchdown passes with two different teams (Fran Tarkenton is the other)
Tied Dan Marino as the fastest player to pass for 30,000 yards. He accomplished this in 114 games.
Tied Johnny Unitas with 4 consecutive games with a passer rating over 120 (against Brett Favre and the 10-1 Vikings on 12/6/2009)
Only Quarterback never to be shutout in a game
Highest average passing yards per game on Monday Night Football - 329.4 (min 7 games)
Tied Daryle Lamonica with throwing 5 touchdown passes in two different playoff games.
Warner is the second quarterback to make Super Bowl starts with two different teams joining Craig Morton (1970 Dallas Cowboys and 1977 Denver Broncos). He also became the third quarterback in NFL history to win a conference championship with two different teams, following Craig Morton and Earl Morrall.
Warner is the only starting quarterback in the history of the NFL to win 2 NFL Championship games in a DOME Stadium in two different cities. In 2001, hosted in St. Louis against Philadelphia, Rams win 29-24, and 2008 hosted in Phoenix against Philadelphia, Cardinals win 32-25.
Warner also retired ranking second in several categories:

2nd Highest Average Passing Yards Per Game, Career (Min. 100 games) - 260.4 yards/game (Peyton Manning is first)[42]
2nd Highest career passer rating, Playoffs - 102.8 (Bart Starr is first)
2nd oldest quarterback to throw for 30 touchdowns in a season - Aged 37 in 2008 (Brett Favre is the oldest, aged 40 in 2009)

That is not counting his community work.

[defector]

That is not counting his community work.

Only QB to not be shut out. Now that is a fucking stat.

[marko138]

That list is longer than I realized.

[Curb]

i see a lot of names on that list that are already in the HoF

[smileyman]

Well thats it then, he's bona fide!

[EpyonXero]

Exactly. Trust me, I loved watching him play for the Rams when they won the superbowl, and the couple seasons right in there, but HoF should be reserved for truly amazing QBs.

Taking St. Louis and Arizona to the Superbowl is pretty amazing to me.

[CrazyKell]

HoF?

[tommymac]

HoF?

Hall of fame

[Curb]

HoF?

Hall of famewomen :rolleyes:

[marko138]

HoF?
There are men talking in here, you gotta go.

[Curb]

There are men talking in here, you gotta go.
:lmao: