They said no

[CrazyKell]

So, I want a dog.

My lease agreement with my landlords says "pets need to be approved". I emailed asking what their guidelines for pets were.

In Canada, according to the Tenant's Act, Landlords can't say no to pets as long as they're not a disturbance or danger.

But, my landlords said no. I don't want to push the issue because I like where I live but....

I really want a dog!!!!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Trip]

Did they give you an explanation why they said no? Could you ask for one if they didn't give you one?

Press the issue, but do it in a 'nice' way without resorting to referring to the tenant act directly.

[derf]

I hate dogs and I'm trying to think of the best way to get rid of my neigbors dog. The damn thing barks all day long and she goes away every weekend and it barks

[tommymac]

I hate dogs and I'm trying to think of the best way to get rid of my neigbors dog. The damn thing barks all day long and she goes away every weekend and it barks

antifreeze, highpowered rifle. Ifit was warmer you could borrow a friends python, 21 feet of pure evil will make quick work of any dog.

[the chi]

Are you dealing with a lease company or an individual?

[t-homo]

antifreeze, highpowered rifle. Ifit was warmer you could borrow a friends python, 21 feet of pure evil will make quick work of any dog.

That would be awesome to watch.

[derf]

antifreeze, highpowered rifle. Ifit was warmer you could borrow a friends python, 21 feet of pure evil will make quick work of any dog.

I've thought about it, but the dog is inside her house

[tommymac]

That would be awesome to watch.

Seen it happen once was cool and scary at the same time since said dogs owner was in the other room at the time of the incident.

[t-homo]

Bet he was pissed. I am trying to talk my roommates into letting me get a ball python or king snake this summer/fall.

[tommymac]

Bet he was pissed. I am trying to talk my roommates into letting me get a ball python or king snake this summer/fall.

they dont know, story is the dog ran out hte back door when no one wa slooking and was never found. I actualy helped them hang lost dog flyers.

[JoJoYZF]

So, I want a dog.

My lease agreement with my landlords says "pets need to be approved". I emailed asking what their guidelines for pets were.

In Canada, according to the Tenant's Act, Landlords can't say no to pets as long as they're not a disturbance or danger.

But, my landlords said no. I don't want to push the issue because I like where I live but....

I really want a dog!!!!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I have two dogs, so all you have to do is drive all the way to this dumb ass place called cleveland and youd be more than welcome to play with them.

[Apoc]

Push it... Fuck,I went so far as calling human rights on people who wouldnt rent me and tmall a place. :lol: We got it too. What a mess that was.


:lol

[Particle Man]

push it... then go piss on their doorsteps.

[askmrjesus]

I've thought about it, but the dog is inside her house

Mailslot.

Problem solved.

Kell, they said no, but did they really mean it?

Get a dog. Hell, get three. Speak truth to power! Show 'em who's boss! Get the biggest goddamn dog you can find and name her "Landlord Terminator Alien Predator the Third".

A "Fuck With Me and I'll Kill Your Mother" T-Shirt, wouldn't hurt either.

Unless it was too small.

JC

[CrazyKell]

Well they emailed me back with a "I hope you're not thinking of getting a dog. The barking/running would be a problem for the people below you" kind of response.

I live in a century house that has been converted into apartments. My landlords (and the owners) live on the main floor. There are two apartments on the second floor, and then I am on the 3rd floor (attic).

I just don't know that I want to start the fight. I had researched dogs to find one that was more suitable to living here. But...maybe one day. :(

[Adeptus_Minor]

Wow, sorry Kell :(
Technically my complex has a weight limit of 40 lbs for dogs, but I've seen dogs that are every bit of 60+ around.
Lilly is ~52 lbs and I was afraid they weren't going to allow her.
However, the girl I was dealing with in the management office agreed to overlook the weight discrepancy. She's just 40 lbs, right? :whistle::wink:

Now, about the running and barking issue, thankfully Lilly isn't barking much. (occasionally when I leave her crated)
However, I'm just waiting until the downstairs neighbors get tired of her jumping and galloping sounds :lol:

Personally I'd push the issue a little. If they have a pet allowance in their lease docs, it makes no sense to deny you out of hand.

[cbrchick]

Well they emailed me back with a "I hope you're not thinking of getting a dog. The barking/running would be a problem for the people below you" kind of response.

I live in a century house that has been converted into apartments. My landlords (and the owners) live on the main floor. There are two apartments on the second floor, and then I am on the 3rd floor (attic).

I just don't know that I want to start the fight. I had researched dogs to find one that was more suitable to living here. But...maybe one day. :(


If you lived in the basement, then I can see them perhaps allowing a small, non-barking dog (hard to find).

But if I were below you and had to listen to a dog running around on my ceiling and barking and chasing a ball, I'd be seriously annoyed.

It's prolly not the best place to own a dog. A cat or fish or other creature, but not a dog.

Kirsty

[racedoll]

I just don't know that I want to start the fight. I had researched dogs to find one that was more suitable to living here. But...maybe one day. :(

Maybe you need to educate them on whatever dog you are wanting. Or if you know someone with that type of dog ask to keep it for a weekend as a trial for your landlords to make a more accurate decision. :shrug:

[karl_1052]

If you lived in the basement, then I can see them perhaps allowing a small, non-barking dog (hard to find).

But if I were below you and had to listen to a dog running around on my ceiling and barking and chasing a ball, I'd be seriously annoyed.

It's prolly not the best place to own a dog. A cat or fish or other creature, but not a dog.

Kirsty

get annoyed all you want. The law states the landlord cannot prevent her from owning a dog.
If a dog is well trained, it will not bark, and will behave when told. When Kelly is away, it can be crate trained.
Both of my dogs are silent when they are in their crate.

Is the landlord going to ban crying babies, or kids that run around next?

Get what you want, and if the landlord has a problem with it, tell him he can file a complaint with the housing board. See how far that gets him.

[G-Rex]

Whoa whoa hold up here.

You signed a lease right? I assume the clause actually reads "need to be approved" as you stated? That clause isn't in there to slight you. It's also for the protection of your neighbors rights, much like Kirsty outlined.

If you don't like it, I'd say the next option is to move if you feel that strongly about getting a pet.

I really like the "fuck it do what you want" mentality. Maybe when I looked to move in the landlord told me pets weren't allowed, thereby making the place more attractive to me because of allergies, noise levels, or what have you. Here somebody else comes and says screw it, I don't have to play by the same rules everyone else signed up for.

They kinda left a gray area they shouldn't have. Either allow pets of a certain size, or don't. When they say "need to be approved", that opens it up to alot of interpretation unfortunately, and that's not entirely fair to you, I will admit.

Regardless, you knew there was a chance you couldn't have one when you signed the lease and moved in, you really shouldn't be shocked or surprised when they said no.

[t-homo]

It is the landlord's house, first and foremost, and you pay to get to live there. If you signed the paper that said that the pets need to be approved, and whatever other rules were in the lease, you need to follow em. You should respect them and your neighbors who also follow the rules. No one likes a noisy neighbor.

[karl_1052]

Whoa whoa hold up here.

You signed a lease right? I assume the clause actually reads "need to be approved" as you stated? That clause isn't in there to slight you. It's also for the protection of your neighbors rights, much like Kirsty outlined.

If you don't like it, I'd say the next option is to move if you feel that strongly about getting a pet.

I really like the "fuck it do what you want" mentality. Maybe when I looked to move in the landlord told me pets weren't allowed, thereby making the place more attractive to me because of allergies, noise levels, or what have you. Here somebody else comes and says screw it, I don't have to play by the same rules everyone else signed up for.

They kinda left a gray area they shouldn't have. Either allow pets of a certain size, or don't. When they say "need to be approved", that opens it up to alot of interpretation unfortunately, and that's not entirely fair to you, I will admit.

Regardless, you knew there was a chance you couldn't have one when you signed the lease and moved in, you really shouldn't be shocked or surprised when they said no.

Sorry Trace, but the landlord tennant act trumps signed leases, and she is well within her legal right to own a dog. She could complain that the landlord did not even consider it as agreed, he/she just refused.

Pets are considered family members when it comes to renting, and rental units cannot be refused on the basis of having or getting a pet.

Q6: The landlord says I must either move out or get rid of my pet; Do I?

A6: Only if the pet is dangerous, causes allergic reactions or causes problems for other tenants or the landlord, must you get rid of your pet or consider moving elsewhere as per Landlord application to terminate tenancy based on animals.

Even if you signed a lease with a "no pets" clause, if the pet is not a problem for anybody they can not enforce it; such no pets clauses are invalid under the law.

You do not have to move or get rid of the pet unless the Board issues a written order to do so.

[G-Rex]

Sorry, Karl..I see what you're saying, and I agree that's apparently the law there. It's wrong though.

Basically, the landlord has no rights? You take one away, what's next? Oh, they didn't pay for 3 months? That's ok, they weren't making any undue noise..

The landlord tenant act should be rewritten.

If I'm a landlord, and I just spent $3k putting carpet in my house, and I specifically didn't have pets for a reason, and I go to rent it, I'd be pissed if anybody could just come in and ignore the rules I laid down in the lease agreement that THEY signed.

It's stupid.

[t-homo]

Sorry, Karl..I see what you're saying, and I agree that's apparently the law there. It's wrong though.

Basically, the landlord has no rights? You take one away, what's next? Oh, they didn't pay for 3 months? That's ok, they weren't making any undue noise..

The landlord tenant act should be rewritten.

If I'm a landlord, and I just spent $3k putting carpet in my house, and I specifically didn't have pets for a reason, and I go to rent it, I'd be pissed if anybody could just come in and ignore the rules I laid down in the lease agreement that THEY signed.

It's stupid.

I completely agree. It amazes me how many people can't see the property owners point of view on issues like this. It's about as bad as people thinking businesses are bad for trying to make money.

[tommymac]

Sorry, Karl..I see what you're saying, and I agree that's apparently the law there. It's wrong though.

Basically, the landlord has no rights? You take one away, what's next? Oh, they didn't pay for 3 months? That's ok, they weren't making any undue noise..

The landlord tenant act should be rewritten.

If I'm a landlord, and I just spent $3k putting carpet in my house, and I specifically didn't have pets for a reason, and I go to rent it, I'd be pissed if anybody could just come in and ignore the rules I laid down in the lease agreement that THEY signed.

It's stupid.

Things may be a little different in canada, and even among states here. In NY the laws def favor the tennants. We looked into that when we left our appt things got a little ugly at the end with our LL.

We told him we were getting 2 cats at first, he was abit pissed about the 3rd one though, and he didnt know about the snakes, untill he came in without our permission a few times.

The appt was also very illegal so he would make threats to try to get us out and we would just call him on it. In the end I think we stiffed him a half months worth of rent and he prolly lost at least another month of the place being empty.

[CrazyKell]

If you lived in the basement, then I can see them perhaps allowing a small, non-barking dog (hard to find).

But if I were below you and had to listen to a dog running around on my ceiling and barking and chasing a ball, I'd be seriously annoyed.

It's prolly not the best place to own a dog. A cat or fish or other creature, but not a dog.

Kirsty

I totally get that. If I had wanted to be a dick I would've just gotten the dog. I really didn't know what they'd say and knew I needed to ask. I'm just kind of bummed.

To be fair though, I hear everything my neighbours below me do. That includes the rough Friday night sex (complete with a headboard on the side of the road on garbage day :O) from the one girl, and the kids and cats running around, not to mention the daily arguments, from the other couple. :idk:

Whoa whoa hold up here.

You signed a lease right? I assume the clause actually reads "need to be approved" as you stated? That clause isn't in there to slight you. It's also for the protection of your neighbors rights, much like Kirsty outlined.

If you don't like it, I'd say the next option is to move if you feel that strongly about getting a pet.

I really like the "fuck it do what you want" mentality. Maybe when I looked to move in the landlord told me pets weren't allowed, thereby making the place more attractive to me because of allergies, noise levels, or what have you. Here somebody else comes and says screw it, I don't have to play by the same rules everyone else signed up for.

They kinda left a gray area they shouldn't have. Either allow pets of a certain size, or don't. When they say "need to be approved", that opens it up to alot of interpretation unfortunately, and that's not entirely fair to you, I will admit.

Regardless, you knew there was a chance you couldn't have one when you signed the lease and moved in, you really shouldn't be shocked or surprised when they said no.

I'm just bummed. I'm not going to do anything to piss them off. They are alright landlords and I really like where I live. This is a big decision for me and it doesn't just come down to whether I want a dog or not. It's a decision that affects the next 15 years of my life. I'm nowhere near ready to buy a house so it's not just whether I want to live in this apartment or not. Realistically I could be out on my ass tomorrow if the landlords chose (sell the house, etc. etc.) so I need to make the decision based on finding other apartments as well as keeping this one. I'm just not ready to move or anything so for now I won't be getting a dog (I won't consider any other pet).

I completely agree. It amazes me how many people can't see the property owners point of view on issues like this. It's about as bad as people thinking businesses are bad for trying to make money.

The landlords make a lot of money. There are things completely NOT up to code in this place and they are by no means hurting. I totally see their point of view.

I'm not exactly one of those people that's going to have a loud dog that wrecks the place. :rolleyes: But I can completely appreciate that they don't want a dog, and even though I'm well within my rights as put forward by the Tenant's Act to get one, I am not going to push the issue.

[t-homo]

The landlords make a lot of money. There are things completely NOT up to code in this place and they are by no means hurting. I totally see their point of view.



You would be hard pressed to find ANY house completely up to code. Codes change during building of new houses so even they aren't 100% before being lived in a lot of times.

[Kaneman]

You only live once. Do what you want if you know the law is going to support you. Or just look for a new place and move when you can. Or come down here and play with my dogs.

[Rangerscott]

Until you own your own place I'd let it go. The "fuck you" attitude that some suggest doesnt work out like how you think it out in your brain.

You're gonna have constant problems with your landlords and maybe your neighbors too. Ya, you only live once but constantly getting bitched at isn't a way to live life. Wait till marriage for that.

[Adeptus_Minor]

If we're going for fairness, they really ought to have a "children must be approved" clause in there too.
I've known a lot of children that are way more annoying than dogs in close quarters living.

[Rangerscott]

If we're going for fairness, they really ought to have a "children must be approved" clause in there too.
I've known a lot of children that are way more annoying than dogs in close quarters living.

Tru dat. I was home searching the one I was looking at was decent on the outside but redone on the inside. I look to the west neighbor house and know why the realtor took such a close up pic of the house. The other house was falling apart, no grass, crayon/marker scribble all over the house, and kids running around like they're on candy acid.

[karl_1052]

Sorry, Karl..I see what you're saying, and I agree that's apparently the law there. It's wrong though.

Basically, the landlord has no rights? You take one away, what's next? Oh, they didn't pay for 3 months? That's ok, they weren't making any undue noise..

The landlord tenant act should be rewritten.

If I'm a landlord, and I just spent $3k putting carpet in my house, and I specifically didn't have pets for a reason, and I go to rent it, I'd be pissed if anybody could just come in and ignore the rules I laid down in the lease agreement that THEY signed.

It's stupid.

As a landlord, you should be aware of the laws in place. If you don't like them, invest your money elsewhere.
I would never want to be a landlord, there are too many headaches and the laws do side with the tennants.

And lease agreements should never go against the written laws, that is just asking for a void contract.

[karl_1052]

This is a big decision for me and it doesn't just come down to whether I want a dog or not. It's a decision that affects the next 15 years of my life. I'm nowhere near ready to buy a house so it's not just whether I want to live in this apartment or not. Realistically I could be out on my ass tomorrow if the landlords chose (sell the house, etc. etc.)

No landlord can evict you, even if new owners take over, without either 60 days notice(if you are on month to month) or unless your lease is up.
And if you are on month to month, landlords can give you 60 days for any reason.
I prefered to be reasonable with my landlords in the past, but that is only because they were reasonable with me.
If your agreement is for him to consider you getting a dog/stereo/kid(whatever) and he did not even consider it, then he is not living up to his end of the signed agreement.

Whether you get a dog or not, you should learn your rights as a tennant.

[G-Rex]

I'm just not ready to move or anything

No landlord can evict you, even if new owners take over, without either 60 days notice(if you are on month to month) or unless your lease is up.
And if you are on month to month, landlords can give you 60 days for any reason.

There you go. Kel doesn't want to move. If she forced the issue to get a dog and won, she could very well be looking for a place to live with only 2 months notice to do so. Sounds pretty clear cut to me.

Kel, I think the next time you look for a place to live, look for a place that doesn't mind pets. :)

[cbrchick]

get annoyed all you want. The law states the landlord cannot prevent her from owning a dog.
If a dog is well trained, it will not bark, and will behave when told. When Kelly is away, it can be crate trained.
Both of my dogs are silent when they are in their crate.

Is the landlord going to ban crying babies, or kids that run around next?

Get what you want, and if the landlord has a problem with it, tell him he can file a complaint with the housing board. See how far that gets him.

Guess I've been lucky. I've never rented anything from anyone or been a tenant. I'm not in the practice of making trouble for myself, i.e. doing something that is specified otherwise. It's never as easy as "it's against the tenancy act", just do what you want.

And I am also considerate. I wouldn't get a dog in an apartment or dwelling that sits on top of another person's home. Your dogs may be well trained, most aren't and most make noise.

Anyway...It's much easier to live in places that allow dogs. Many of my friends live in dog friendly places/apartments.

[marko138]

Buy your own house, make your own rules. Problem solved.

[tommymac]

Buy your own house, make your own rules. Problem solved.

troof, but i dont think my neighbors liked it when we had a party and my freind left on his sportster with straightpipes at 3am. :lol:

[Tmall]

There you go. Kel doesn't want to move. If she forced the issue to get a dog and won, she could very well be looking for a place to live with only 2 months notice to do so. Sounds pretty clear cut to me.

Kel, I think the next time you look for a place to live, look for a place that doesn't mind pets. :)

They can give you a notice to quit. But, if you disagree or think it's retalitory you can sit on a board and have them mediate the decision. If they gave her the notice shortly after a disagreement, she would most likely win and have the dwelling as long as she wanted it.

I had this happen with a troublesome landlord. He tried to terrorize the tenants, I pulled him aside and told him if he didn't fuck off, I'd report every single thing I'd noted him doing "Including going through other people's mail boxes". I had a notice to quit a week later, and a meeting with the rentals board two weeks after that.

We won, I pretty much had the run of the place. Anything he tried to do after without actual evidence of me doing anything wrong would have been considered harassment.

I stayed there for several months after completely problem free. He even stopped frivilous complaints.

The rights are in place for a reason. Like Karl said, if the landlords can't abide by them, that's their problem and the law trumps their lease every time..

[Tmall]

But, I probably still wouldn't have bought a dog.

[CrazyKell]

The rights are in place for a reason. Like Karl said, if the landlords can't abide by them, that's their problem and the law trumps their lease every time..

This is so true. They must know the tenant's act and if they don't that's their own foolishness. I'm not a bad tenant and have been very flexible with a lot of things.

But, I probably still wouldn't have bought a dog.

Ya, I just don't want the hassle it would cause. I would be getting a small dog that would cause minimal disturbance, but it's still not fair for me to do that. :idk:

[Apoc]

[QUOTE=Tmall;327865]They can give you a notice to quit. But, if you disagree or think it's retalitory you can sit on a board and have them mediate the decision. If they gave her the notice shortly after a disagreement, she would most likely win and have the dwelling as long as she wanted it.

I had this happen with a troublesome landlord. He tried to terrorize the tenants, I pulled him aside and told him if he didn't fuck off, I'd report every single thing I'd noted him doing "Including going through other people's mail boxes". I had a notice to quit a week later, and a meeting with the rentals board two weeks after that.

We won, I pretty much had the run of the place. Anything he tried to do after without actual evidence of me doing anything wrong would have been considered harassment.

QUOTE]

I remember that asshole! I met him the day after I bought the Monte Carlo, lol. That was a good weekend.

[wildchild]

just a complete assumption on my part but, didn't you just move there not that long ago? within a year or so?

just wondering if maybe the landlord considers the other tenants with families more "senior" and therefore said no so that they would not be disturbed, not worrying about you, as you are the "new kid" and being a single young woman you're probably going to move when you meet a guy.

i would ask for a chance at having one. that said i will warn you i have two dogs. a cute little poodle, so tiny you can hardly hear her walk across the floor, her bark however will almost shatter glass.
the other is a 60 pound boxer, she walks like a freight train going through a tunnel with it's horn blaring, but, she hardly ever barks and if she does it means something is in the yard that shouldn't be.

i only say that because it's easy to say get a small dog for the good of the neighbors but they do tend to be louder in the long run with the barking.

[CrazyKell]

just a complete assumption on my part but, didn't you just move there not that long ago? within a year or so?

I moved in last May after coming back from the UK.

and being a single young woman you're probably going to move when you meet a guy.

No. Not now, not ever.

i would ask for a chance at having one.

Meh. I want a dog so badly but I'm not going to push it. I'll just have to wait until I live somewhere that allows this option. :idk:

[karl_1052]

I remember that asshole! I met him the day after I bought the Monte Carlo, lol. That was a good weekend.

Did your best friend have a Chysler Imperial with one door?:lol:

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[t-homo]

Did your best friend have a Chysler Imperial with one door?:lol:

http://i50.tinypic.com/23k3w3k.jpg

Holy shit, I just started watching that show. It is hilarious.

[Tmall]

Holy shit, I just started watching that show. It is hilarious.

Give it a couple episodes...

I'll get some pics of my bike in front of the trailer park this year, it's on a nice stretch of road that joins some twisties and is near a gorgeous beach.

[t-homo]

Give it a couple episodes...

I'll get some pics of my bike in front of the trailer park this year, it's on a nice stretch of road that joins some twisties and is near a gorgeous beach.

Yeah I am part way into season two. I think I like it because it makes me feel better about myself.

[Rider]

Fuck em, get a dog anyway. From what I understand It's pretty hard to evict someone anyway. As long as you are paying rent, what the fuck are they going to do? You may loose your deposit, but that's a small price to pay.

[CrazyKell]

Fuck em, get a dog anyway. From what I understand It's pretty hard to evict someone anyway. As long as you are paying rent, what the fuck are they going to do? You may loose your deposit, but that's a small price to pay.

You're right. Fuck 'em. I'm getting a dog anyways. I like living in constant turmoil because of a disagreement with my landlord. :rolleyes: What better way to be a good tennant than to say fuck 'em and do what they've asked me not to do.

Can they evict me for getting a dog? NO

Am I going to get a dog anyways? NO!

[karl_1052]

Hey Kell, how is the neighbours radio doing? lol

Just saying

[RACER X]

(this is z, again, laziness prevails! LOL)

spoken out of TRUE laziness, and knowing it gets damn cold there... i wouldn't get a dog if i lived in the 3rd floor apartment. That means 3 flights of stairs and going out q4-6h to let the dog pee/poop. no wayz. i'd wait until living on first floor apartment. LOL
(especially because it's so damn cold and you'd have to bundle up too!)

[CrazyKell]

(this is z, again, laziness prevails! LOL)

spoken out of TRUE laziness, and knowing it gets damn cold there... i wouldn't get a dog if i lived in the 3rd floor apartment. That means 3 flights of stairs and going out q4-6h to let the dog pee/poop. no wayz. i'd wait until living on first floor apartment. LOL
(especially because it's so damn cold and you'd have to bundle up too!)

I thought of that too. :lol:

[marko138]

(this is z, again, laziness prevails! LOL)

spoken out of TRUE laziness, and knowing it gets damn cold there... i wouldn't get a dog if i lived in the 3rd floor apartment. That means 3 flights of stairs and going out q4-6h to let the dog pee/poop. no wayz. i'd wait until living on first floor apartment. LOL
(especially because it's so damn cold and you'd have to bundle up too!)
That would be my main reason for not gettin one if I lived in an apartment.

Now, I just open the back door, out goes dog while I wait in the warm kitchen. When he strolls back up I open the door and in he comes.

[z06boy]

You're right. Fuck 'em. I'm getting a dog anyways. I like living in constant turmoil because of a disagreement with my landlord. :rolleyes: What better way to be a good tennant than to say fuck 'em and do what they've asked me not to do.

Can they evict me for getting a dog? NO

Am I going to get a dog anyways? NO!

Good decision imho.

I love dogs...had them most of my life and have one now HOWEVER I also own a Townhome that I lease to another couple and have NO PETS in the lease and that's the way I want it. The law is different here though...I own it and can decide if I want pets in there or not. The reason I won't let them is because I don't trust people to be responsible owner's and don't feel like dealing with it. :idk:

In your case...I actually see the owner's point about you living above other people...pups run and play and that would be annoying to the ones below.

All of these people suggesting you get one anyway because the owner can't do anything...well in the very first post it states something about "unless they are a disturbance"...and the pup running around probably would be imho. :idk:

I'd just hold off until I moved. I totally understand you wanting a dog...my dog is cool.

[z06boy]

I hate dogs and I'm trying to think of the best way to get rid of my neigbors dog. The damn thing barks all day long and she goes away every weekend and it barks

That would be annoying as he11 !! Please don't do the antifreeze thing...unless it's for the irresponsible owner of course.

Bet he was pissed. I am trying to talk my roommates into letting me get a ball python or king snake this summer/fall.


My little Ball Python is turning out to be pretty cool now that we've gotten used to eachother. :lol:

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[t-homo]

That is badass.

[marko138]

That is badass.
Gross.

[t-homo]

Gross.

Aww. Is marko afraid of snakes?

[marko138]

Aww. Is marko afraid of snakes?
Yes. Very much.

[t-homo]

Haha when I was a little kid my grandma would always cut up my rubber snakes with her hoe before she realized they were fake.

[marko138]

Haha when I was a little kid my grandma would always cut up my rubber snakes with her hoe before she realized they were fake.
Funny. :lol

[t-homo]

I've wanted a snake for probably 3 years now, but all of my roommates keep saying no. Bitches.

[wildchild]

(this is z, again, laziness prevails! LOL)

spoken out of TRUE laziness, and knowing it gets damn cold there... i wouldn't get a dog if i lived in the 3rd floor apartment. That means 3 flights of stairs and going out q4-6h to let the dog pee/poop. no wayz. i'd wait until living on first floor apartment. LOL
(especially because it's so damn cold and you'd have to bundle up too!)

we got our toy poodle when we lived in an apt. she is litter box trained for that reason.

[marko138]

I've wanted a snake for probably 3 years now, but all of my roommates keep saying no. Bitches.
Good for them.