What bike is this?

[CasterTroy]

So Brian's wife is ready to start selling his stuff.

This is harder for me than I thought it'd be honestly.....emotionally....but anyway.

I'm about an hour away from the bikes, so I'm trying to do this from somewhat long-distance.

What model and year Honda could this be? Brian was proud of this bike, but I can't for the life of me remember what he told me it was.

http://www.troybaker.com/55/honda.jpg

[Dave]

looks like a cb 350 i think

[Rider]

1964 CB77

Edit, I was off by a year.

[marko138]

Looks like it's in great shape.

[CasterTroy]

Looks like it's in great shape.

it is...other than the fuel leak from the rotten hose

[marko138]

it is...other than the fuel leak from the rotten hose
Should be an easy fix.

[CasterTroy]

1964 CB77

Edit, I was off by a year.

Thanks so much!

[BobTheBiker]

thats a GORGEOUS vintage Honda. I almost thought it was a Dream 305, but the front isnt right to be that, so CB77 is probably it.

[CasterTroy]

Also told it may be a late 60's CB160?!?

[Rider]

Also told it may be a late 60's CB160?!?

No it's absolutely a CB77

http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/honda_cb77.jpg

This is a CB160

http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/1968-cb160.jpg

[BobTheBiker]

That too is possible. I know for sure its a late 50's-1970 model, and not likely to be much newer. I'd take that pic over to SOHC4.net and see what the old timers and vintage guys there say. they know their shit ENTIRELY too well.

[askmrjesus]

No it's absolutely a CB77

Agreed.

AKA the 305 SuperHawk.

There was also a CB77 247cc Hawk, but I'm not sure if those made it here, or not.

Check the engine #

JC

[CasterTroy]

perfect!

Thanks...I'll check the engine the next time I'm down there, but I can get started researching values now to know what we may get for it

[CasterTroy]

Confirmation

1964 Honda the VIN is CP771000600

Thanks to all

[askmrjesus]

Confirmation

1964 Honda the VIN is CP771000600

Thanks to all

Well that is interesting.

You either have something quite rare for the US, or the B is rubbed down, and looks like a P.

The CP 77, was a police model SuperHawk, (not used here, as far as I know).

JC

[marko138]

Well that is interesting.

You either have something quite rare for the US, or the B is rubbed down, and looks like a P.

The CP 77, was a police model SuperHawk, (not used here, as far as I know).

JC
Conspiracy.

[Rider]

Confirmation

1964 Honda the VIN is CP771000600

Thanks to all

Where is my prize?

[askmrjesus]

Conspiracy.

No, I think that requires a hovercraft, or a Nazi Spaceship.

JC

[marko138]

No, I think that requires a hovercraft, or a Nazi Spaceship.

JC
Those Nazi's had some wild weapons back in the day...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SdvOaYSEN7I/AAAAAAAA-SI/hCuIZHg9fpA/s640/tyjrthjdbhcfdbcv.jpg

[CasterTroy]

Well that is interesting.

You either have something quite rare for the US, or the B is rubbed down, and looks like a P.

The CP 77, was a police model SuperHawk, (not used here, as far as I know).

JC

That was taken from the title :idk:

Maybe NCDMV screwed up?!!? I'll check the actual bike this weekend if it doesn't ice us in

[askmrjesus]

That was taken from the title :idk:

Maybe NCDMV screwed up?!!? I'll check the actual bike this weekend if it doesn't ice us in

Here's a little tidbit I found, (and likely a good place to advertise the bike for sale):

http://www.honda305.com/fr/cb77_F12.htm

Edit: Link doesn't go where I thought it did, here's the text:

CYP77 Police Superhawk

Here is Paul Strassmaier's statement - the most extensively researched body of CYP77 information to date...

"The bike is the first model CYP. It's a little confusing, but here's how it went:

Type (CYP77) 1963-64: This bike featured the Honda "type 2" motor, dual carbs, but a 360 degree crank and one set of points. The points covers are hard to find, and actually say "Type 2". Also has 17" wheels, special fenders, chainguard, solo seat, handlebars and switches, needle stop in big white speedo, patrol lights and a friction drive siren. The siren control is a dual perch on the clutch side of the handlebar that accommodates a C100 lever. When you pull back the small lever (which is located under the clutch lever) is pushes the spindle against the rear tire and starts the siren turning. The bike also has a full rear bumper, and one more setting on the ignition switch that provides power to the speedo (to hold the needle), and the patrol lights (to keep them on) after the bike stops. Another interesting feature is that on the CYP the patrol lights do not flash like other police bikes. I may adapt a flasher just because that sounds goofy not to have them flash.

Type CP77: Looks very much like a CB77, except that they painted it white, painted the fenders and sidecovers white, still had 18" wheels, and basically the same CB77 motor (I've heard the oil pump is different), and still had the siren and patrol lights, but no ticket box or rear bumper (had a little white rack behind the solo seat). Probably an effort to streamline production by using more SuperHawk parts in the bike. I haven't seen any of these bikes, but I have factory photos.

Late CP77: I've seen many of these coming out of Canada. In my CP77 parts book it lists them as "discontinued in year of manufacture". These bikes have CP77 numbers, but were not painted white, and didn't have any special parts from the factory, with the exception that many had turn signals..."

Since yours has turn signals, the last entry is my guess.


JC

[CasterTroy]

awesome info!!! and thanks for the link

[Kaneman]

Also told it may be a late 60's CB160?!?

Now you have to take back all that smack talking you did about AMJ in the mod forum. :lol:

[Kerry_129]

Wow - beautiful condition!
I wonder what something like that is worth?

[tommymac]

Kinda curious myself, wonder if the mrs would notice it in the garage :lol:

[askmrjesus]

To the right guy: 3-5K, depending on condition.

JC

[tommymac]

To the right guy: 3-5K, depending on condition.

JC

if I do well in the big super bowl pool I am in :lol:

[CasterTroy]

OK so Brian's widow dug up the 4 page letter from the last owner explaining where the bikes been and why it's what it is.

I'm just repeating what I read...I'm sure some southern Californian with a superiority complex will immediately get online and debunk anything and everything said. But at this point…I don’t care.

The original owner was a pilot that flew for an American based airline that shipped goods out of Japan in the 40’s. At the time of his era Japan was not allowed to have an airline to ship goods, and he did a great deal of transport for Honda of Japan. When the first TUBE-frame version came out, the original owner was given one as a gift from Honda….the emblem on the side says Honda Dream 300. The title is CP77 and not CB77. He was given a Japanese version that he flew home to California.
He rode it 200 miles and then dropped it in a parking lot, breaking a mirror. He then decided that his limbs and body were far too valuable as a pilot to injure and GAVE the bike to a very good friend. This friend rode the bike 10k miles and was told by a dealer after a service that the bike was too rare to just “ride” so he put it in an aluminum shed for 20 yrs forgetting it was there. After a friend discovered it, he then gave that friend the bike, because it had acquired surface rust, and he feared it was worthless. Of course it just turned out to be JUST surface rust and cleaned up fine. This friend was a good friend of Brian’s father and told him about it, and said if he wanted it, he could have it for $300 but he’d have to drive to Michigan and get it.. Brian’s father then told Brian, and the NEXT DAY Brian left to get the bike from NC.

[z06boy]

This has to be BS because...just kidding...I'm not even from California. :lol:

Seriously though...cool story/history and it will be interesting to find out what it is actually worth. Good luck with the sale.