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baby Ray
02-18-2010, 01:55 PM
Its been a while, how is everyone.

Sold my scoot and wondering why i can't get it to start.
Things i have done:
charged the battery
removed carb and cleaned out all the bowls
removed all the gas and put in new
checked for spark o.k

? could the battery be strong enough to turn motor but not produced enough power for spark.

could the coils be bad?

pulled the plugs and they are wet so i figured it's getting fuel

any help would be great

Thanks,
Ray

BobTheBiker
02-18-2010, 02:09 PM
you didnt clean your carbs correctly. the pilot jets are clogged because you didnt clean THOSE as well. just because its GETTING fuel doesnt mean its getting the right AMOUNT of fuel.

btw katanas SUCK. from experience.

baby Ray
02-18-2010, 03:16 PM
Thanks for your reply, I tore down the carbs again and pretty sure i got every nook and cranny still nothing, I'm almost certain the are cleaned out, any other suggestions. It's amazing all the shit that came out but wasn't that bad i thought

askmrjesus
02-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Sold my scoot and wondering why i can't get it to start.



Because it's not there anymore? :scratch:

If you checked for spark, and saw some, the coils are not the issue.

Make sure you don't have a pinched vacuum line, and double (triple?) check your jets.

JC

BobTheBiker
02-18-2010, 04:00 PM
on a kat, there is also the possibility that your battery is just dead. just because it can turn it over, and make a spark doesnt mean its good. throw a charger on it, and see how it acts in the moring.

baby Ray
02-18-2010, 04:21 PM
on a kat, there is also the possibility that your battery is just dead. just because it can turn it over, and make a spark doesnt mean its good. throw a charger on it, and see how it acts in the moring.

thats what i'm wondering i have a tender on it but switch back and fourth with the other scoot, I sold the bike to my nephew 1st mistake, for a real good price 2nd mistake now feel bad it won't run. I told him to pick up a new battery maybe this will work

one more thing does anyone know if the petcock is on should gas just poor out or does the vacum help with that, i thought last time i took of the tank gas just poured out when its on now it doesn't.

marko138
02-18-2010, 04:31 PM
thats what i'm wondering i have a tender on it but switch back and fourth with the other scoot, I sold the bike to my nephew 1st mistake, for a real good price 2nd mistake now feel bad it won't run. I told him to pick up a new battery maybe this will work

one more thing does anyone know if the petcock is on should gas just poor out or does the vacum help with that, i thought last time i took of the tank gas just poured out when its on now it doesn't.
It shouldn't. It's all vaccuum on those...or should be. Shouldn't leak out when you disconnect the lines. There are 3 lines on it, right?

baby Ray
02-18-2010, 04:37 PM
It shouldn't. It's all vaccuum on those...or should be. Shouldn't leak out when you disconnect the lines. There are 3 lines on it, right?


ok thanks, it doesn't leak out

BobTheBiker
02-18-2010, 05:11 PM
KAtana petcock is vacuum operated for ON and RES, but PRI will flow like the rivers of babylon without vacuum.

No Worries
02-18-2010, 06:23 PM
Its been a while, how is everyone.

Sold my scoot and wondering why i can't get it to start.
Things i have done:
charged the battery
removed carb and cleaned out all the bowls
removed all the gas and put in new
checked for spark o.k

? could the battery be strong enough to turn motor but not produced enough power for spark.

could the coils be bad?

pulled the plugs and they are wet so i figured it's getting fuel

any help would be great

Thanks,
Ray
If you cleaned a bunch of crap out of the float bowls, you have to do like Bob says and clean the pilot jet and all the bleeds. The choke on my Honda works by air bleeds that raise up the piston/needle. If your jets, bleeds and/or the piston/needle are clogged or sticky, it probably won't run. But if you have spark and wet plugs, and it won't fire at least once, something is wrong. Either the sparkplug wires are on the wrong plugs or you have no compression.

BobTheBiker
02-18-2010, 07:08 PM
NW, you overlooked another potential. it could just be DUMPING gas into each cylinder essentially flooding it before it can even TRY to light off.

baby Ray
02-18-2010, 07:30 PM
NW, you overlooked another potential. it could just be DUMPING gas into each cylinder essentially flooding it before it can even TRY to light off.

I would lean more in this direction cause they are wet when i pull them out, is this still a needle being dirty?

Now its like backfiring out the exhaust, at least earlier it fired now it ain't doing sqaut but turning over

I think the wires are right, 1 and 4 on first coil and 2 and 3 on second coil does any one know?

Gas Man
02-19-2010, 02:24 AM
Are you sure the gas is good?

baby Ray
02-19-2010, 06:09 AM
Are you sure the gas is good?

went and got new gas can and 93 oct from exxon I hope so but the way my luck is no telling

BobTheBiker
02-19-2010, 07:17 AM
you dont NEED 93 octane for that bike so you know. they run great on regular unleaded. rode my friends kat for a few months, beat the piss out of it, learned why they suck, but never had any problems with 87 octane.

marko138
02-19-2010, 09:18 AM
I would lean more in this direction cause they are wet when i pull them out, is this still a needle being dirty?

Now its like backfiring out the exhaust, at least earlier it fired now it ain't doing sqaut but turning over

I think the wires are right, 1 and 4 on first coil and 2 and 3 on second coil does any one know?

Replace the plugs. They are probably fucked by now. My 92 Zuk used to do the same thing. I'd change plugs and it would fire right up. (Make sure the battery is fully charged before you re-start.)

baby Ray
02-19-2010, 06:04 PM
Replace the plugs. They are probably fucked by now. My 92 Zuk used to do the same thing. I'd change plugs and it would fire right up. (Make sure the battery is fully charged before you re-start.)

Thinking last night about what the hell go ahead and replace the plugs, the old were gettn fire but the way gas is you need a touch to get it to burn

replace them and a couple cranks and she fired right up:boobs::boobs:

Thank you all for your responses :rockwoot::rockwoot:

Now can anyone help me with the lotto numbers?

Thanks again everyone

marko138
02-19-2010, 06:58 PM
Whud I tell ya? Glad it worked out.

Gas Man
02-20-2010, 01:56 AM
Awesome!!