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pauldun170
02-23-2010, 04:10 PM
http://jalopnik.com/5478280/man-trades-in-16-million-bugatti-veyron-for-corvette-zr1-doesnt-look-back

pauldun170
02-23-2010, 04:13 PM
From the comments:

Q: Who trades in a Veyron for a Corvette?
A: The same guy that puts a jesus fish on a Veyron

z06boy
02-23-2010, 04:15 PM
Things that make you go humm....

I wonder how much "cash" went with the ZR1 ?

pauldun170
02-23-2010, 04:25 PM
oops wrong forum

however

Service anywhere: Chevy.

Nosebleed rarity: Bugatti.

You know what else is nosebleed rare? Pyramids. There aren't that many, not even when you count up the third-world wannabes in South America (even though their biggest is more massive than the Pyramid of Cheops). And Hope Diamonds. And Paris Hiltons.

You can't take any of those anywhere. They're too high-maintenance, too high-profile, too too that there's no way to have one without making a scene. What if you want crazy fast without having every slackjawed dropout pointing at you and your pet pelican saying, "Dude, that's a Lamborghini." Who needs it? You want video of Paris playing Bobbing for Knobs with your bookshelf in the background making its internet debut, or would you rather have a few happy years of circus sex with a deliciously flexible but visually anonymous Cirque du Soleil reject?

Homeslice
02-23-2010, 04:37 PM
Good choice IMO...........the ZR1 undoubtedly handles better, and is probably just as quick. Looks better too IMO. :shrug:

z06boy
02-23-2010, 04:38 PM
Good choice IMO...........the ZR1 undoubtedly handles better, and is probably just as quick. Looks better too IMO. :shrug:

It definitely looks better imho. Probably does handle better but not sure about the quicker part.

marko138
02-23-2010, 04:40 PM
Both are sick cars. I'd love to have a Vette...the one with the carbon roof.

smileyman
02-23-2010, 04:41 PM
I'll pose another unthought of but plausible scenario. You outrun cops to your residence. Not saying you should but it can happen. Or someone in your neighborhood complains...Isnt it easier to use some plausible deniability and say ' well officer it wasny my corvette they saw', rather than 'well yes i do own a Veyron, but I've been home all day'

Advantage anonymity! Like my friend on the very visible LSU Tigers themed Busa, someone that sticks out usually gets to pay the ticket.

z06boy
02-23-2010, 04:44 PM
I'll pose another unthought of but plausible scenario. You outrun cops to your residence. Not saying you should but it can happen. Or someone in your neighborhood complains...Isnt it easier to use some plausible deniability and say ' well officer it wasny my corvette they saw', rather than 'well yes i do own a Veyron, but I've been home all day'

Advantage anonymity! Like my friend on the very visible LSU Tigers themed Busa, someone that sticks out usually gets to pay the ticket.

Very true and I had a lot of "fun" in my old 5.0 Vortech Supercharged Mustang several years back. :lol:

Vettes are a dime a dozen too...I know...but mine stands out a little which doesn't work in my favor when playing around...as you referenced.

Avatard
02-23-2010, 04:48 PM
The Bug is an overly hight-tech, finicky solution to a simple HP problem.

Americans have made cars just as fast, without ten radiators.

z06boy
02-23-2010, 04:52 PM
The Bug is an overly hight-tech, finicky solution to a simple HP problem.

Americans have made cars just as fast, without ten radiators.

Yeah when I first heard the tech bits on that I couldn't believe ten freakin' radiators !! :whatwhat:

Watching the guy hit 253 mph in it on video was pretty cool though and so was the race against the British Jet both on "TopGear" I believe.

goof2
02-23-2010, 05:04 PM
From the comments:

I'm guessing this owner is the same guy that had the McLaren F1 he imported tested by one of the American magazines. I remember reading the test at the time and wondering who the fuck puts a Jesus fish on a $1 million+ supercar.

ETA: read the link contained in the main article about maintaining a Veyron. If you actually drive the car you are going to pay the equivalent of a ZR1 every couple of years in maintenance.

Dave
02-23-2010, 05:42 PM
The Bug is an overly hight-tech, finicky solution to a simple HP problem.

Americans have made cars just as fast, without ten radiators.

we do however give you a plastic window with a fantastic view of a plastic engine cover. Ghey

goof2
02-23-2010, 06:06 PM
we do however give you a plastic window with a fantastic view of a plastic engine cover. Ghey

Most of what you see (the silver) is the top of the supercharger/intercooler assembly. There is plastic (blue and black) surrounding it to cover the plumbing and belts though.

Dave
02-23-2010, 07:28 PM
Most of what you see (the silver) is the top of the supercharger/intercooler assembly. There is plastic (blue and black) surrounding it to cover the plumbing and belts though.

:wtfru:

defector
02-23-2010, 08:09 PM
At least he didn't get suckered into paying for the undercoating. That's how they get ya. :lol

defector
02-23-2010, 08:11 PM
:wtfru:
I thought it was a roots style supercharger,meaning top of the engine - not front / side of the engine?
*Still covered though...

goof2
02-23-2010, 08:21 PM
:wtfru:

Recognize anything? I believe that top part is part of the assembly.

Homeslice
02-23-2010, 08:23 PM
So wait a minute, there is really a Punisher logo on the air intake duct, or did you paste that on there Dave :lol:

goof2
02-23-2010, 08:27 PM
I just noticed your writing on the picture. That is not the supercharger. In response, you=idiot!

squidward
02-24-2010, 02:33 AM
I just noticed your writing on the picture. That is not the supercharger. In response, you=idiot!

Power steering pump......supercharger.....what's the difference? :lol

Amber Lamps
02-24-2010, 03:01 AM
I'm not sure why he didn't just sell the car for $500,000 and then buy the Corvette and pocket the rest or spend it on strippers or something...seems silly.

goof2
02-24-2010, 08:48 AM
I'm not sure why he didn't just sell the car for $500,000 and then buy the Corvette and pocket the rest or spend it on strippers or something...seems silly.

What do you mean? It wasn't a straight trade, the guy got some cash in addition to the ZR1.

Dave
02-24-2010, 09:58 AM
Power steering pump......supercharger.....what's the difference? :lol

meh last i heard that tacky plastic boat used a centrifugal. Me being wrong doesnt change the fact that the window is unessesarily ugly/tacky/ricey and has no real purpose or place. And slice, no i didnt add the logo. Maybe amarok got to the pic before me :lol:

pauldun170
02-24-2010, 09:58 AM
fyi:
UPDATE: The Bugatti traded in belonged to Carlton Beal, Jr., who runs a petroleum company in Midland Texas. He's previously owned a Lamborghini Diablo and McLaren F1 but, despite this, a friend of his describes him as an "amazing down-to-earth person." We'd imagine if you've sampled a Veyron, Diablo and F1 you'd be interested in also trying an American-made car that can compete with them.

Dave
02-24-2010, 10:00 AM
fyi:

a mosler photon? :Lol:

z06boy
02-24-2010, 10:13 AM
meh last i heard that tacky plastic boat used a centrifugal. Me being wrong doesnt change the fact that the window is unessesarily ugly/tacky/ricey and has no real purpose or place. And slice, no i didnt add the logo. Maybe amarok got to the pic before me :lol:

Tacky plastic boat ? :lol: I like everything about that car...except for the window...I do agree on that.

So wait a minute, there is really a Punisher logo on the air intake duct, or did you paste that on there Dave :lol:


Close but not the Punisher...that's Jake and is the emblem for Corvette C5R and C6R Racing...

Punisher...

http://www.granateseed.com/futilepodcast/wp-content/uploads/punisher_skull.jpg

Jake...(his eyes are the cutout of the Corvette flags)

http://store.corvettemuseum.com/images/store_images/ORN_JAKE_RACING.jpg

http://www.c5racer.com/catalog/images/bad-boy-vette-jake-racing-decal-black.jpg

marko138
02-24-2010, 10:16 AM
Bad ass logo.

Dave
02-24-2010, 10:17 AM
Tacky plastic boat ? :lol: I like everything about that car...except for the window...I do agree on that.




Close but not the Punisher...that's Jake and is the emblem for Corvette C5R and C6R Racing...

Punisher...

http://www.granateseed.com/futilepodcast/wp-content/uploads/punisher_skull.jpg

Jake...(his eyes are the cutout of the Corvette flags)

http://store.corvettemuseum.com/images/store_images/ORN_JAKE_RACING.jpg

http://www.c5racer.com/catalog/images/bad-boy-vette-jake-racing-decal-black.jpg

they're still making up for the eighties with me. That and the seats. :Lol:

z06boy
02-24-2010, 10:27 AM
they're still making up for the eighties with me. That and the seats. :Lol:

Everything car wise pretty much sucked in the 80's didn't it ? The seats in the ZR1 ?

Homeslice
02-24-2010, 10:29 AM
Hmm, that skull sucks compared to the Punisher's. It looks like a helmet, not a head.

z06boy
02-24-2010, 10:31 AM
Hmm, that skull sucks compared to the Punisher's. It looks like a helmet, not a head.

Well you thought it was the Punisher so I guess that works for them. :lol:

Rider
02-24-2010, 10:32 AM
Hmm, that skull sucks compared to the Punisher's. It looks like a helmet, not a head.

Umm corvette racing? A helmet seems appropriate.

Homeslice
02-24-2010, 10:35 AM
Umm corvette racing? A helmet seems appropriate.

If racers wear hard-hats like construction workers :idk:

Rider
02-24-2010, 10:39 AM
If racers wear hard-hats like construction workers :idk:

Have some imagination.

z06boy
02-24-2010, 10:42 AM
Umm corvette racing? A helmet seems appropriate.

:lol: I didn't even think of that. It doesn't look too bad on the car imho...

http://www.corvetteracing.com/history/2007releases/lagunaseca/images/JakeGraphics.jpg

shmike
02-24-2010, 10:43 AM
I'm impressed that Mr. Beal put over 20,000 miles on the Bugatti. :dthumb:

z06boy
02-24-2010, 10:45 AM
Have some imagination.

Well it's not interior design or clothing fashion so.....

Rider
02-24-2010, 10:46 AM
Well it's not interior design or clothing fashion so.....

:lol

Dave
02-24-2010, 10:51 AM
Everything car wise pretty much sucked in the 80's didn't it ? The seats in the ZR1 ?

removeable roof cranks?

goof2
02-24-2010, 10:54 AM
meh last i heard that tacky plastic boat used a centrifugal. Me being wrong doesnt change the fact that the window is unessesarily ugly/tacky/ricey and has no real purpose or place. And slice, no i didnt add the logo. Maybe amarok got to the pic before me :lol:

To each their own.:shrug:

z06boy
02-24-2010, 11:03 AM
removeable roof cranks?

I "think" my 78 that I bought in the late 80's had that with the T-Tops...can hardly remember. I know that there was a big problem with theft of the T-Tops and Targa roofs so maybe that was their reasoning ? I honestly don't know.

My 72 was a Vert and I never owned one from the 80's.

z06boy
02-24-2010, 11:07 AM
To each their own.:shrug:

Now that's better...at least it actually shows something.

Dave
02-24-2010, 11:37 AM
Now that's better...at least it actually shows something.

seriously.

karl_1052
02-24-2010, 03:05 PM
we do however give you a plastic window with a fantastic view of a plastic engine cover. Ghey

yup, Ghey and ricey
http://www.priceofhistoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/ferrari-f40-4.jpg
http://www.khulsey.com/stockphotography/ferrari-f50-v12-engine-cover.jpeg
http://image.caraudiomag.com/f/8216927/caep_0804_02_z+2006_ferrari_f430_spider_engine+rea r_view.jpg

The 430 shows about as much as the vette does.

Dave
02-24-2010, 03:13 PM
yup, Ghey and ricey
http://www.priceofhistoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/ferrari-f40-4.jpg
http://www.khulsey.com/stockphotography/ferrari-f50-v12-engine-cover.jpeg
http://image.caraudiomag.com/f/8216927/caep_0804_02_z+2006_ferrari_f430_spider_engine+rea r_view.jpg

The 430 shows about as much as the vette does.

on the f car, no. On the vette, yes.

shmike
02-24-2010, 03:17 PM
yup, Ghey and ricey
http://www.priceofhistoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/ferrari-f40-4.jpg

Did you just post a pic of a Fiero40 as the counter argument to the claim of rice? :lol

karl_1052
02-24-2010, 03:20 PM
Did you just post a pic of a Fiero40 as the counter argument to the claim of rice? :lol

:lol:

I never even looked at the pic, just posted the first F40 pic I found.

No wonder his rice is blacked out.

Homeslice
02-24-2010, 03:26 PM
Uh, on a Ferrari the view is a lot more substantial than just seeing a square intercooler.

If Chevy really wanted to provide a good view, they would have given it a front-mount IC so that we could actually see the engine.

Dave
02-24-2010, 03:42 PM
Did you just post a pic of a Fiero40 as the counter argument to the claim of rice? :lol

i knew that looked ''off'' damn tiny phone screen :lol:

Homeslice
02-24-2010, 03:47 PM
The Chinese factory that built that body kit should be hunted down and nuked.

goof2
02-24-2010, 08:07 PM
Uh, on a Ferrari the view is a lot more substantial than just seeing a square intercooler.

If Chevy really wanted to provide a good view, they would have given it a front-mount IC so that we could actually see the engine.

It has a roots type blower and an air to liquid intercooler. Mounting the intercooler up front would accomplish nothing and create some downsides.

ETA: With the F40 you see 2 square intercoolers and some intake runners and that is about it.

Rangerscott
02-24-2010, 10:16 PM
Would be cool if they did a "come see it" thing. I'd hop on my bike and go see that purty little thing.


The lagoon girl has been stripped.

http://jalopnik.com/5465116/texas-bugatti-insurance-adjuster-photos-show-a-seriously-stripped-veyron/gallery/

Particle Man
02-24-2010, 10:38 PM
Did you just post a pic of a Fiero40 as the counter argument to the claim of rice? :lol

hahahaha :lmao:

RACER X
02-24-2010, 11:40 PM
sure are alot of bugatti;s running around TX

Apoc
02-25-2010, 12:25 AM
:lol: I didn't even think of that. It doesn't look too bad on the car imho...

http://www.corvetteracing.com/history/2007releases/lagunaseca/images/JakeGraphics.jpg

I'd trade my right nut for that car!

RACER X
02-25-2010, 01:53 AM
Friend of a friend knows the guy. He's not hurting for money at all. Here's a couple of his other cars...

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn145/hybredGT/PICT6406.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn145/hybredGT/PB230042.jpg

:?:

got the red jesus fish on them also.......

Dave
02-25-2010, 02:01 AM
man i dont know why you would put an ichthys on an exotic. wtf mate

goof2
02-25-2010, 08:29 AM
Here is a capture of the Road and Track issue I mentioned before testing (I believe) his McLaren F1 sporting the Jesus fish and Texas plates.

Homeslice
02-25-2010, 08:55 AM
Because it's Texas. Everyone has to announce their religion instead of keeping it personal.

z06boy
02-25-2010, 09:00 AM
I definitely like his taste in cars and wish I had his $$$.

unknownroad
04-20-2010, 12:28 PM
It has a roots type blower and an air to liquid intercooler. Mounting the intercooler up front would accomplish nothing and create some downsides.


But... then you'd be ABLE TO SEE THE ENGINE. Don't you understand? If you can SEE IT, then you can paint it mauve with tasteful chartreuse highlights! :bash:

Homeslice
04-20-2010, 02:36 PM
What can I say, being able to see mechanical parts adds to the appeal. The fun of owning a car isn't simply about how fast it is.

unknownroad
04-20-2010, 04:53 PM
Actually, i really enjoy looking at the mechanicals of a vehicle as well, but modern engines just don't lend themselves to it.

That's why i just don't get "car guys" who hate on the Veyron. Yes, it's far more complex (and expensive) than a consumer automobile has any right to be, but it manages to do some remarkable things, and as an engineering exercise it's absolutely fascinating.

Homeslice
04-20-2010, 05:24 PM
Well "car guys" actually like to drive, and all accounts are that the Veyron is rather one-dimensional........In other words it's fast, but its heavy weight prevents it from being tossed around as much as a McLaren or something like that. Plus the front end styling leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

Also, it isn't hard to build an intake manifold that's nice to look at. Or tubular exhaust headers for that matter. Most Ferrari and Alfa Romeo engines look great.

The only reason most manufacturers don't bother making their engines look nice anymore is because they cover it with those stupid plastic shrouds.

Dave
04-20-2010, 08:08 PM
Well "car guys" actually like to drive, and all accounts are that the Veyron is rather one-dimensional........In other words it's fast, but its heavy weight prevents it from being tossed around as much as a McLaren or something like that. Plus the front end styling leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

Also, it isn't hard to build an intake manifold that's nice to look at. Or tubular exhaust headers for that matter. Most Ferrari and Alfa Romeo engines look great.

The only reason most manufacturers don't bother making their engines look nice anymore is because they cover it with those stupid plastic shrouds.

this. All the ls engines look like lumpy dogshit. Again window on a vette is dumb

z06boy
04-21-2010, 09:56 AM
this. All the ls engines look like lumpy dogshit. Again window on a vette is dumb

Yeah I like my lumpy dogshit a bit manicured. :lol: I don't care for the window on the ZR1 either.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced7859be6d18d00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced785af0d504c00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Dave
04-21-2010, 10:04 AM
nice

Sean
04-21-2010, 11:31 AM
Well "car guys" actually like to drive, and all accounts are that the Veyron is rather one-dimensional........In other words it's fast, but its heavy weight prevents it from being tossed around as much as a McLaren or something like that. .

You realize it's a GT car and not a track car like the F1, right?

unknownroad
04-21-2010, 12:59 PM
Well "car guys" actually like to drive, and all accounts are that the Veyron is rather one-dimensional........In other words it's fast, but its heavy weight prevents it from being tossed around as much as a McLaren or something like that.

There's more to driving than going fast on a track. It's not a track car :idk: That doesn't change the fact that it's world-record fast, crams an astonishing amount of hardware under an aerodynamic body, and almost every detail is crafted like a fine watch. I'd love to take one apart :rockwoot:

karl_1052
04-21-2010, 02:54 PM
There's more to driving than going fast on a track. It's not a track car :idk: That doesn't change the fact that it's world-record fast, crams an astonishing amount of hardware under an aerodynamic body, and almost every detail is crafted like a fine watch. I'd love to take one apart :rockwoot:

All run by VW electrics.

I will take the british electrics of the McLaren over that, thanks.:lol:

Homeslice
04-21-2010, 03:23 PM
You realize it's a GT car and not a track car like the F1, right?

Of course. But wasn't the question "why do car guys criticize it?"

GT cars get criticized all the time, this isn't the first. Supras and 3000GT's were other examples.

And as far as the F1 being a track car, I have never heard anyone use such a classification. You can use an F1 on the street just fine. All street cars sold to consumers are just that: Street cars. Whether they perform well on the track doesn't make them a track car. It's just like bikes -- Manufacturers don't sell "track bikes"........They sell street bikes, and people take them and turn them into track bikes if they feel like it.

fasternyou929
04-21-2010, 03:45 PM
sure are alot of bugatti;s running around TX

Yeah, one driven into a lake and one traded for a Vette. Those Texans sure are rich. :lol: