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pauldun170
03-09-2010, 11:50 AM
Palin Crossed Border For Canadian Health Care
Sam Stein Sam Stein
Mon Mar 8, 12:26 pm ET

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin -- who has gone to great lengths to hype the supposed dangers of a big government takeover of American health care -- admitted over the weekend that she used to get her treatment in Canada's single-payer system.

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada," Palin said in her first Canadian appearance since stepping down as governor of Alaska. "And I think now, isn't that ironic?"

The irony, one guesses, is that Palin now views Canada's health care system as revolting: with its government-run administration and 'death-panel'-like rationing. Clearly, however, she and her family once found it more alluring than, at the very least, the coverage available in rural Alaska. Up to the age of six, Palin lived in a remote town near the closest Canadian city, Whitehorse.

Officials at several hospitals in that area declined to give out information on patient visits.

Related blogs: Lincoln Mitchell: Sarah Palin's Canadian Health Care, Dean Baker: Governor Palin's Crazed

Smittie61984
03-09-2010, 12:28 PM
If the Republicans put her up as their presidential candidate, she won't need to cross the border anymore. Obama will have it for sure in his easily won second term.

anthonyk
03-09-2010, 12:32 PM
Uh, did I read right that she was 6 years old at the time?

Smittie61984
03-09-2010, 12:35 PM
Uh, did I read right that she was 6 years old at the time?

It doesn't matter. Sarah Palin is evil. I also heard in the 5th grade she cheated on her math test and didn't play nicely with others at recess.

azoomm
03-09-2010, 12:57 PM
Sounds like more people need to get her new book - especially if 6-year-olds are involved.

[chuckle] http://www.goingrouge.net/

Papa_Complex
03-09-2010, 01:26 PM
We should send her a retroactive bill just for floating that absolute bullshit "death panel" talking point. With interest applied.

Avatard
03-09-2010, 02:24 PM
It really doesn't matter if she was 6, or 66, the fact that she has had to receive healthcare from Canadians should have made her realize NOW that healthcare is broken, and needs reform. The irony is not lost here, regardless.

She should know better. She's just a dumb cunt.

Evil? I dunno if she rises to the level of evil. I don't think she's smart enough to be evil.

pauldun170
03-09-2010, 02:28 PM
Actually, when she was 6 we had a different health care system.

Papa_Complex
03-09-2010, 02:35 PM
Actually, when she was 6 we had a different health care system.

But we didn't.

pauldun170
03-09-2010, 02:43 PM
But we didn't.

When she was 6?
Depends on where you lived I guess.
You guys still had some changes in store in 1970

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/pubs/system-regime/2005-hcs-sss/time-chron-eng.php

Homeslice
03-09-2010, 02:46 PM
It doesn't matter. Sarah Palin is evil. I also heard in the 5th grade she cheated on her math test and didn't play nicely with others at recess.

She isn't evil, she's just unqualified for any top political job. The only reason she became governor was because of looks and a chirpy personality.

Papa_Complex
03-09-2010, 02:51 PM
When she was 6?
Depends on where you lived I guess.
You guys still had some changes in store in 1970

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/pubs/system-regime/2005-hcs-sss/time-chron-eng.php

In bureaucracy, not concept. It had to do with government concepts like DREE (Department of Regional Economic Expansion) that took money from the "have" Provinces, in order to shore up the "have not" Provinces. In practise this meant taking out more money from Ontario and Quebec than was necessary, then redistributing it among all Provinces as a fund for specific projects, like Provincially funded health care.

I'm generally opposed to having someone else have a job because they take and then hold on to my money, so that they can give it back to me at a later date. My preference is that when it isn't necessary to take the money in the first place, they don't.

pauldun170
03-09-2010, 02:52 PM
She isn't evil, she's just unqualified for any top political job. The only reason she became governor was because of looks and a chirpy personality.

Thats the thing about political jobs
You don't have to be qualified in anything.

Avatard
03-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Thats the thing about political jobs
You don't have to be qualified in anything.

Primarily because people have confused it with celebrity.

pauldun170
03-09-2010, 03:02 PM
In bureaucracy, not concept. It had to do with government concepts like DREE (Department of Regional Economic Expansion) that took money from the "have" Provinces, in order to shore up the "have not" Provinces. In practise this meant taking out more money from Ontario and Quebec than was necessary, then redistributing it among all Provinces as a fund for specific projects, like Provincially funded health care.

I'm generally opposed to having someone else have a job because they take and then hold on to my money, so that they can give it back to me at a later date. My preference is that when it isn't necessary to take the money in the first place, they don't.

In 2008 I went ape shit learning the intracasies of health care systems but have allowed 97% of that leak out of my ass (since for me there is no practical use for this knowledge and living in the US...such information is frowned upon ).

I really didn't go to deep into Canada because...well I don't know. Other systems just seemed more interesting at the time.

If we are planning more health care discussions concerning the Canadian system.
I'm going to need to brush up.
Thats all I'm saying.

Homeslice
03-09-2010, 03:06 PM
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Thats the thing about political jobs
You don't have to be qualified in anything.

The same could be said for almost ANY job, except a handful of situations like lawyers who HAVE to have a law degree or doctors who HAVE to have a medical degree, or like a pilot where you need to have a certain number of hours flying a certain type of plane.

The difference is, politicians can actually affect the lives of the people, so one would hope they have some qualifications & knowledge.

Papa_Complex
03-09-2010, 03:11 PM
In 2008 I went ape shit learning the intracasies of health care systems but have allowed 97% of that leak out of my ass (since for me there is no practical use for this knowledge and living in the US...such information is frowned upon ).

I really didn't go to deep into Canada because...well I don't know. Other systems just seemed more interesting at the time.

If we are planning more health care discussions concerning the Canadian system.
I'm going to need to brush up.
Thats all I'm saying.

What you'll learn is something that the American Right hasn't gotten yet; we don't have a national health care system. What we have is a national health care POLICY, that is expressed in as many ways as we have Provinces and Territories. The mandate is a single-payer system. How that system is expressed is up to the individual governments to decide.

Certainly there are common threads to it in the various jurisdictions, but that's largely because there are certain models that meet the mandate better than others. How the Federal money is spent is up to the Provinces to determine, as long as it goes to meeting the requirements of health care.

pauldun170
03-09-2010, 03:21 PM
What you'll learn is something that the American Right hasn't gotten yet; we don't have a national health care system. What we have is a national health care POLICY, that is expressed in as many ways as we have Provinces and Territories. The mandate is a single-payer system. How that system is expressed is up to the individual governments to decide.

Certainly there are common threads to it in the various jurisdictions, but that's largely because there are certain models that meet the mandate better than others. How the Federal money is spent is up to the Provinces to determine, as long as it goes to meeting the requirements of health care.

From what I recall, what we think of as nationalized health care exists (at least in the developed world) in only one place.
Great Britian.

Papa_Complex
03-09-2010, 03:23 PM
From what I recall, what we think of as nationalized health care exists (at least in the developed world) in only one place.
Great Britian.

Actually they have a two-tier health care system; parallel pay-for care and socialized medicine. France is the nearest likely analogue, from what I recall of their system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMiqlXQaWQY

pauldun170
03-09-2010, 03:33 PM
Actually they have a two-tier health care system; parallel pay-for care and socialized medicine. France is the nearest likely analogue, from what I recall of their system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMiqlXQaWQY

In the UK, doctors are state employees and Hospitals are state intitutions.
I can't recall how many private docs\clinics there are.

In France?

Papa_Complex
03-09-2010, 03:40 PM
In the UK, doctors are state employees and Hospitals are state intitutions.
I can't recall how many private docs\clinics there are.

In France?

State employees, IIRC. You may be right about Britain. Admittedly it's been quite a while since I looked into it. From what I remember even though you would be treated at a NHS hospital, you could purchase a greatly increased level of service and care with personal funds. This was used to help fund National Health. While a government facility, it was almost like being in a private hospital.