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lauralynne
03-12-2010, 11:00 PM
I'm having a disagreement with my mother in law. They're going ot put their house on the market but...they're both smokers. heavy duty, yellow walls, dirty window smokers. 2+ packs a day EACH. She says that people won't care about the smell. They're going to repaint, clean the windows, and take out possibly replace the carpets. But it still stinks.
Do people care?
Will buyers be turned off? I know I am - I can't hardly stand being in her house for any period of time even when she's NOT smoking in front of me. But I MAY be overreacting...
Tmall
03-12-2010, 11:15 PM
Never in a thousand years would I buy a smelly house. Especially not one that smelled like cigarettes.
pauldun170
03-12-2010, 11:16 PM
I'm having a disagreement with my mother in law. They're going ot put their house on the market but...they're both smokers. heavy duty, yellow walls, dirty window smokers. 2+ packs a day EACH. She says that people won't care about the smell. They're going to repaint, clean the windows, and take out possibly replace the carpets. But it still stinks.
Do people care?
Will buyers be turned off? I know I am - I can't hardly stand being in her house for any period of time even when she's NOT smoking in front of me. But I MAY be overreacting...
I know one person who spent 800K on a place, had it professionally cleaned twice and ended up moving right back out because of the smell.
Thats with a repaint
CrazyKell
03-12-2010, 11:22 PM
I wouldn't even look at the place.
unless they are smokers, people care. smokers ruin shit.
a nonsmoker can pick up immediately on the stench of smoking no matter what you do to the house, especially the amount they smoke.
Rangerscott
03-12-2010, 11:27 PM
Repainting WILL NOT get rid of the smell. They'll probably have to sale it their selves cause I doubt a realtor would even touch it.
not a chance id buy a smoked in home. And I smoke.
Phenix_Rider
03-12-2010, 11:51 PM
unless they are smokers, people care. smokers ruin shit.
a nonsmoker can pick up immediately on the stench of smoking no matter what you do to the house, especially the amount they smoke.
Agreed, no chance in hell. It sucks being in a smoking hotel room for 5 minutes, even after everything's cleaned. From the sounds of it, there's more smoke pouring out the windows than the chimney of that house.
Cars are the same way- like the dead pig in a 'Vette. Just no way to get the stench out.
unless they are smokers, people care. smokers ruin shit.
a nonsmoker can pick up immediately on the stench of smoking no matter what you do to the house, especially the amount they smoke.
this. yuck. :td:
Gas Man
03-13-2010, 12:26 AM
NO WAY in hell I would buy it. I hate smoker stench.
They do have that new scent eliminator paint
http://dutchboy.com/refresh/faq/
I suggest they use allot of it.
Plus new carpet, and new furniture.
thunderex
03-13-2010, 12:39 AM
not a chance id buy a smoked in home. And I smoke.
I don't smoke anymore but I wouldn't have bought this house we currently own if it reeked of cig smoke and I smoked at the time, about a pack a day or so.
Yeh, not gonna sell the house like that. Buy new carpet, furniture, paint, and have the house proffesionally deodorized.
I passed on a few houses wjen I was buying because they smelled like smoke or smelled like cat piss.
Any good realator will say the same thing as this thread
cbrchick
03-13-2010, 07:54 AM
No way in hell. If I walked into a house like that, I'd walk right out. We bought a condo like that... We'll it didn't reek of smoke but the people did smoke in there. I couldn't figure out what the yellow stuff was running down the walls (before we painted) when the shower steamed up. Nicotine. Disgusting. the carpets were gross as well.
Tell her she's nuts.
Show her this thread :)
tommymac
03-13-2010, 07:57 AM
I prety much agree with everyone else. They should make the renovations before putting it on the market. They will get far less than what its worth because of this esp the way the market is right now.
Flexin
03-13-2010, 09:00 AM
I have a friend that moved out of her condo and movrd to to another province. She rented out her condo and said they could not smoke. The guy did anyway. When she went to rent it to someone else they all walked. In the end she had to have someone come in to clean it so she could sell. She did end up selling but it was hard. This guy smoked less then them and it was only for about 5 months.
They need pros to come in and clean that place. The carpet has to go and so does most of what they own. Smoke will get into everything. They should pay to stage the house and use that stuff. They can put the nasty stuff they own in storage.
When i owned my detail shop, the smoked in cars were a bitch to do.
James
Looni2ns
03-13-2010, 09:29 AM
Cleaning the windows and painting the walls isn't going to cut it. They'll have to paint everything (including the ceilings) w/Kilz, then repaint. Also, HVAC ducting will need to be cleaned. Carpet, wall paper, etc. has to go, too. All drapes, curtains will need to be washed/cleaned. And, that's just the beginning. Then, they can't smoke in the house EVER again.
Having someone come in and stage the house will be a good wake up call for them.
Good luck!
Homeslice
03-13-2010, 09:54 AM
How stupid would you have to be to smoke IN your home? Your patio or deck is only 10 feet away. :scratch:
Hire a professional deodorizer, using their steam ion machine or whatever it's called. Only thing is, they need to remove the carpet and strip/scuff the paint BEFORE they deodorize the place.
Kaneman
03-13-2010, 09:58 AM
How stupid would you have to be to smoke IN your home? Your patio or deck is only 10 feet away. :scratch:
This.
When I went out of state for a few months my Mom picked my clothes up for me so she could store them. She put them in a back closet, in a room that never gets used. Her and my stepdad both smoked inside at the time. When I got my clothes back I had to wash them 4 separate times to get the smell out.
The house you're describing is probably soaked to the studs with foul odor....good luck on that!
Cutty72
03-13-2010, 10:29 AM
I agree with all comments above.
Flexin
03-13-2010, 11:52 AM
Donate it to the local fire department for fire training then rebuild.
James
Cutty72
03-13-2010, 12:41 PM
Our local FD is no longer allowed to do controlled burns. It sucks ass.
Sometimes however, old houses just happen to start on fire when the FD is around and ready. :lol:
lauralynne
03-13-2010, 01:01 PM
she won't consult a realator until it's TIME to sell - I am guessing there's not anyone who will touch it.
To top it ALL off - it's a manuafactured home. Which probably just needs to go to the junk yard at this point. Sad. They owe a lot of money on it still.
Just one more thing to disagree with her about. She's slipped into Looneyville in the last 6 months, this is just one more thing she's gone off the deep end about (her husband started gambling compulsively, stole and pawned our gun collection, they're filing bankruptcy and she thinks she can retire this year and sell their house....I've got news for her...)
For as much as I hate drama - I could write a book sometimes...
Kaneman
03-13-2010, 01:35 PM
Dang that blows. Stole your gun collection? Did you get it back?
I do not put up with BS. I would cut my own Mom out of my life if she was Mother Teresa herself for that kind of drama.
maybe she figures she can retire, if she moves in with you guys! :lol:
and, if they are gonna file, why bother with the house? May as well just stop paying for it.
Particle Man
03-13-2010, 02:05 PM
eff that. If it smells like smoke I'm outta there.
Gas Man
03-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Dang that blows. Stole your gun collection? Did you get it back?
I do not put up with BS. I would cut my own Mom out of my life if she was Mother Teresa herself for that kind of drama.
echo
goof2
03-13-2010, 03:06 PM
Manufactured homes typically don't have shit for resale and it sounds like this one might be worth less than most. I think your mother in law is going to be in for a rude awakening when she does talk to a realtor.
eff that. If it smells like smoke I'm outta there.
Ya, it used to be pretty common for people to smoke in their home, I know. But damn, nowadays, most people who do it live in shitholes. Why the fuck would you ruin a good home with cigarette smoke? And again, im a smoker!
101lifts2
03-13-2010, 05:06 PM
This.
When I went out of state for a few months my Mom picked my clothes up for me so she could store them. She put them in a back closet, in a room that never gets used. Her and my stepdad both smoked inside at the time. When I got my clothes back I had to wash them 4 separate times to get the smell out.
The house you're describing is probably soaked to the studs with foul odor....good luck on that!
But dope smell is ok, right?:lol
I wouldn't buy a house that someone smoked in. Nasty.
Flexin
03-13-2010, 05:30 PM
Our local FD is no longer allowed to do controlled burns. It sucks ass.
Sometimes however, old houses just happen to start on fire when the FD is around and ready. :lol:
LOL. I did hear something about them being stopped in a lot of places. Where there is a will there is a way.
James
Kaneman
03-13-2010, 06:03 PM
But dope smell is ok, right?:lol
I wouldn't buy a house that someone smoked it. Nasty.
Don't know, never been around or smelt dope. It rots your teeth out though, so it must be pretty nasty. Still, I doubt it would stick around like tar/nicotine does.
'73 H1 Triple
03-13-2010, 08:18 PM
she won't consult a realator until it's TIME to sell - I am guessing there's not anyone who will touch it.
To top it ALL off - it's a manuafactured home. Which probably just needs to go to the junk yard at this point. Sad. They owe a lot of money on it still.
Just one more thing to disagree with her about. She's slipped into Looneyville in the last 6 months, this is just one more thing she's gone off the deep end about (her husband started gambling compulsively, stole and pawned our gun collection, they're filing bankruptcy and she thinks she can retire this year and sell their house....I've got news for her...)
For as much as I hate drama - I could write a book sometimes...
Plain and simple that is theft. I would press charges in a heartbeat and get my stuff back.
NO free passes for theives :gofurslf:
lauralynne
03-14-2010, 01:24 AM
we got the whole collection back from pawn...and keeping family ties intact is important right now...but it's definately strike 1 (and probably 2).
I don't htink she'll be able to sell the house at all. IF she can find a realator to list it for her in the first place.
I truly think she's gone insane. I mean legitimately off her rocker. 6 months ago, she was NOT like this. She asked for advice, took it or at least listened to it. But now everything is different. I really think something in her brain snapped. I'm only sticking around long enough to see if it's permanent or not.
'73 H1 Triple
03-14-2010, 10:14 AM
Good to hear you got it back, safe to assume every single firearm?
Good luck with the rest of the situation.
Jeff
Rangerscott
03-14-2010, 11:16 AM
Dope smells worse than cigs. I love how some dope smokers dont think dope smells.
Rider
03-14-2010, 11:29 AM
Dope smells worse than cigs. I love how some dope smokers dont think dope smells.
Smells fantastic unburnt.
lauralynne
03-14-2010, 11:37 AM
we did get all the guns back - $3k in pawn tickets later. *sigh*
Kaneman
03-14-2010, 11:46 AM
Smells fantastic unburnt.
I think they're talking about meth/crack, not the sweet, sweet smell of good ganja.
If 101 was referring to ganja as "dope", well then it does have a VERY strong odor....but it absolutely does not stick like cigarettes. Weed smokers don't have yellow ceilings and walls either. Get your drug lingo right, "dope" refers to heavy shit.
Laura, this situation is crazy to me, what benefit is it to keep these people in your life? I can see if they're rich and you're going to inherit something, then sure, there's an end game. But damn. I am VERY pro-family and am tight with all my family and would die for them, etc. etc.....right up until the point they steal something as important as my guns from me and fucking PAWN them. I'd never mess with them again.
'73 H1 Triple
03-14-2010, 11:53 AM
we did get all the guns back - $3k in pawn tickets later. *sigh*
I will refrain from cussing up a blue streak but if I wasn't reimbursed immediately, I WOULD press charges.
You already purchased them once, having to purchase YOUR stolen firearms back is plain bullshit.
Rider
03-14-2010, 11:53 AM
You can clean it up. When my grandma died we had to do this to her house. We had to re-primer all the walls before any paint went on, ceiling included. All carpet and pad replaced. All window coverings thrown out and replaced. Tile in the kitchen and bathrooms had to be scrubbed clean and the windows had to be scrubbed. All the trim work had to be painted. Door hardware scrubbed, kitchen cabinets and appliances replaced... . the whole works. It was a lot of money to make it livable to non smokers, but in So-cal it sold in less than 3 days on the market and at a hefty profit(about 23 times more than what they paid for it).
Captain Morgan
03-14-2010, 12:33 PM
Manufactured home that's been smoked in heavily...not a chance. They're pretty much screwed.
azoomm
03-14-2010, 12:50 PM
Manufactured home that's been smoked in heavily...not a chance. They're pretty much screwed.
That's what I was thinking. Blech.
eta: kharma?
Homeslice
03-14-2010, 01:36 PM
Hmm, I've heard tons of people call pot "dope". It's more accurate to use it for heroin, but people still do it.
Never heard it being used for meth or coke though.
Manufactured home that's been smoked in heavily...not a chance. They're pretty much screwed.
This is exactly what my grandparents' house was like. A few months after my grandmother passed, we decided to bulldoze her house. The house was so far out in the sticks, it wouldn't have been worth trying to make it non-smoky to sell.
racedoll
03-14-2010, 03:40 PM
Cleaning the windows and painting the walls isn't going to cut it. They'll have to paint everything (including the ceilings) w/Kilz, then repaint. Also, HVAC ducting will need to be cleaned. Carpet, wall paper, etc. has to go, too. All drapes, curtains will need to be washed/cleaned. And, that's just the beginning. Then, they can't smoke in the house EVER again.
Having someone come in and stage the house will be a good wake up call for them.
Good luck!
Our house had been smoked in years ago. There are times I can still smell it and the cat piss, which pisses me off to no end. We did the Kilz as primer on the ceiling, walls, and hardwood floors (before carpeting).
If our basement wouldn't be a swimming pool, I would do the same down there. I know that is where a lot of the smell is coming from. But it still sucks.
Dope smells worse than cigs. I love how some dope smokers dont think dope smells.
Pot doesnt smell bad, first of all.
Second, the smell doesnt stick around like cigs do.
But, I wouldnt smoke pot in a house of my own either. Hash wouldn't be a problem though, as it has a light, sweet smell.
Gas Man
03-14-2010, 06:45 PM
Pot may smell worse than cigs IMO
Captain Morgan
03-14-2010, 08:47 PM
Pot may smell worse than cigs IMO
Maybe, but I can't imagine people smoke pot the way they do cigs. For one, the cost would be outrageous, and for the other, they'd never get a damn thing done.
'73 H1 Triple
03-14-2010, 10:07 PM
Maybe, but I can't imagine people smoke pot the way they do cigs. For one, the cost would be outrageous, and for the other, they'd never get a damn thing done.
plus they'd be eating all the time :lol:
Gas Man
03-15-2010, 12:12 AM
Yeah that.
lauralynne
03-15-2010, 12:15 AM
Maybe, but I can't imagine people smoke pot the way they do cigs. For one, the cost would be outrageous, .
Ok - honest to goodness question - obviously smoke for smoke, pot is more expensive. But given that my MIL spokes over $20 a DAY in cigarettes...how much pot is that? Like a "casual smoker" amount or more like a "duude where's my job" amount?
Rider
03-15-2010, 08:46 AM
Ok - honest to goodness question - obviously smoke for smoke, pot is more expensive. But given that my MIL spokes over $20 a DAY in cigarettes...how much pot is that? Like a "casual smoker" amount or more like a "duude where's my job" amount?
I don't know current prices but back in high school $20/day by yourself is a lot. That's roughly equivalent to 10 joints or 8-10 bowls.
the chi
03-15-2010, 09:55 AM
Manufactured home that's been smoked in heavily...not a chance. They're pretty much screwed.
This. Ick. That is so nasty. I'd say she's pretty much out of luck and go with the whole bankruptcy thing and forget trying to sell it. Unless they have good land that its sitting on, theres no way.
:dribble:Ok - honest to goodness question - obviously smoke for smoke, pot is more expensive. But given that my MIL spokes over $20 a DAY in cigarettes...how much pot is that? Like a "casual smoker" amount or more like a "duude where's my job" amount?
About 2 grams. Not very much.
pauldun170
03-15-2010, 12:11 PM
I'm amazed by how much people smoke.
Its one thing if you smoke a 1/2 a pack to a full pack a day but how people can start puffing away 2-4 packs a day is just beyond me.
Thats like lab experiment smoking...
KSGregman
03-15-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm amazed by how much people smoke.
Its one thing if you smoke a 1/2 a pack to a full pack a day but how people can start puffing away 2-4 packs a day is just beyond me.
Thats like lab experiment smoking...
I amazed that people smoke AT ALL....
I mean, it's not like the negative consequences of that habit haven't been fully documented. It just seems so....self destructive...voluntarily self destructive. I don't understand it. I get the "I'm addicted, it's difficult to stop" thing...to a point....but what I don't understand is the "I've not smoked before, but even armed with everything I know about the consequences, I'm going to START smoking."
Why?!
Kaneman
03-15-2010, 12:33 PM
Ok - honest to goodness question - obviously smoke for smoke, pot is more expensive. But given that my MIL spokes over $20 a DAY in cigarettes...how much pot is that? Like a "casual smoker" amount or more like a "duude where's my job" amount?
Around here $20 will get you one gram, not two.
Around here $20 will get you one gram, not two.
Serious?
25-30$ will get you 3.5 grams of primo bud up this way.
I paid 15 for a gram last summer when we were dry, and I was about ready to quit at that price :lol:
Rider
03-15-2010, 01:01 PM
Around here $20 will get you one gram, not two.
Damn. I remember when 2-3 grams was $10.
Damn. I remember when 2-3 grams was $10.
Ya, but your old! :lol:
I remember when joints were 3 for 5$ too though, so I guess im not that young.
Kaneman
03-15-2010, 03:08 PM
Damn. I remember when 2-3 grams was $10.
Well you can still get Mexican dirt weed at $30 for 15 grams....but its absolute shit. Aside from the odor concealing chemicals they put in there, it contains male plant leaves as well as female buds, plus all the fan leaves and other shit you wouldn't want to smoke. Fucking gross.
LeeNetworX
03-15-2010, 03:41 PM
Just read the initial post.
My brother-in-law and his wife were house hunting the past couple of months and they were about to put a bid on a house they loved. The house smelled like smoke and it was disgusting, but their understanding was the carpets were going to be replaced in the house so they waited. Even after the new carpets and a "professional cleaning" the house still stunk and they passed.
So it does matter to some people for sure.
karl_1052
03-15-2010, 06:32 PM
Pot doesnt smell bad, first of all.
Second, the smell doesnt stick around like cigs do.
But, I wouldnt smoke pot in a house of my own either. Hash wouldn't be a problem though, as it has a light, sweet smell.
Without a propane torch, hot knives are hard to do outside.;)
BTW, last time I bought, it was $6/g of hash.
lauralynne
03-15-2010, 06:36 PM
they don't own the land, they rent a space in a park. And we've been pushing them to sell for several years now because the land around the park is being bought up hand over fist by developers and they're bulding $400k homes. It's only a matter of time before the park gets sold and they end up owing $35k on a house that they can't move to another park and don't have the money to buy a lot even out in the boonies.
anyway - it's good to know that I'm not that far off the mark in thinking that you just can't sell a stinky house, even to people who smoke. She's off her rocker - this is just further proof.
it's going to be an interesting year...
Gas Man
03-15-2010, 08:35 PM
I amazed that people smoke AT ALL....
I mean, it's not like the negative consequences of that habit haven't been fully documented. It just seems so....self destructive...voluntarily self destructive. I don't understand it. I get the "I'm addicted, it's difficult to stop" thing...to a point....but what I don't understand is the "I've not smoked before, but even armed with everything I know about the consequences, I'm going to START smoking."
Why?!
I'm with ya. 100%
I would think that cig smoking like it has been in the past is a dieing breed. I can't believe that kids would even attempt to start. I have a couple of guys at work that didn't and then started... I'm talking full grown 25+ yrs old men with wife and kids. Started smoking last year! I'm mean for christ sake. Are you kidding me?
And yes that is a retorical question Farley!
Rangerscott
03-15-2010, 08:52 PM
Pot doesnt smell bad, first of all.
Second, the smell doesnt stick around like cigs do.
But, I wouldnt smoke pot in a house of my own either. Hash wouldn't be a problem though, as it has a light, sweet smell.
Ya....................it does.
I got better things to buy with my money than cigs/dope/crack/rocks/incents/sticky icky/dildos/pcp/needles/grass/and jenkem.
101lifts2
03-15-2010, 11:42 PM
I think they're talking about meth/crack, not the sweet, sweet smell of good ganja.
If 101 was referring to ganja as "dope", well then it does have a VERY strong odor....but it absolutely does not stick like cigarettes. Weed smokers don't have yellow ceilings and walls either. Get your drug lingo right, "dope" refers to heavy shit.
Laura, this situation is crazy to me, what benefit is it to keep these people in your life? I can see if they're rich and you're going to inherit something, then sure, there's an end game. But damn. I am VERY pro-family and am tight with all my family and would die for them, etc. etc.....right up until the point they steal something as important as my guns from me and fucking PAWN them. I'd never mess with them again.
Most people use the term dope for weed. Yes technically to drug users it is referred to as the heavy shit (herion), but to the masses it basically means drugs in general. Kinda like "germs" for viruses and bacteria.
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