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Triple
03-23-2010, 03:49 PM
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Rider
03-23-2010, 03:55 PM
Personally I wouldn't buy that shit but it's your wallet.
Trip
03-23-2010, 03:59 PM
I think its worth it to spend on proven quality when it comes to brakes. They are somewhat important.
azoomm
03-23-2010, 04:00 PM
Personally I wouldn't buy that shit but it's your wallet.

I wouldn't either. Brakes are REALLY important.
ontwo
03-23-2010, 04:01 PM
I think you should go as cheap as possible on the brakes. Save the cash for a cool fender eliminator or tank pad
tommymac
03-23-2010, 04:10 PM
I wouldn't either. Brakes are REALLY important.

Meh you will stop eventualy so whats the big deal :lol:
CrazyKell
03-23-2010, 04:19 PM
I have kevlar lines. I think they're cheaper than braided. Try them.
Particle Man
03-23-2010, 04:24 PM
I figure brakes are like helmets: buy the best you can afford.
BobTheBiker
03-23-2010, 05:04 PM
yep. I wouldnt buy those. name brand only for brake components, just like helmets.
Homeslice
03-23-2010, 07:03 PM
Well $100 for brand-name lines is a ripoff IMO. Isn't that what they charge for Galfer at Cycle Gear? It probably costs them $5-10 to make. :lol:
was92v
03-23-2010, 07:41 PM
For that price it would be worth buying one just to try and tear it up. If you can't pull the ends off or burst it, you know what ya got. If it does come apart, ya also know what ya got, and it didn't cost much to find out...
Amber Lamps
03-23-2010, 07:47 PM
These guys handle Galfer and only charge $5 for custom lengths...they may not be the cheapest though.... I will say this, Galfer has never let me down in any way.
Rangerscott
03-23-2010, 09:31 PM
These guys handle Galfer and only charge $5 for custom lengths...they may not be the cheapest though.... I will say this, Galfer has never let me down in any way.


OEM has never let me down. LOL


The kevlar sounds interesting.
Trip
03-23-2010, 10:38 PM
OEM has never let me down.

I have had some scary moments with OEM squishiness.
No Worries
03-24-2010, 12:02 AM
The material these guys use is automotive grade, so that doesn't really concern me. I wonder about the connections with the fittings and their weather-resistance, however.
I agree. The material is important, but how they crimp the connections together is even more important. I've had a set of Russell braided lines on my Suzuki for over 25 years.
Amber Lamps
03-24-2010, 01:09 AM
Not just custom lengths, but fittings as well. I'm using a master cylinder and calipers that were never originally matched with one another, and the line for one is not a good fit for the other.

The material these guys use is automotive grade, so that doesn't really concern me. I wonder about the connections with the fittings and their weather-resistance, however.

Hey, I forgot to post the link,

I've dealt with these guys before, very helpful.

http://www.cyclebrakes.com/html/galfer_brake_lines.html
Particle Man
03-24-2010, 07:32 AM
I just ordered Galfer lines for my SV - I'll let you know how they are. :)
marko138
03-24-2010, 10:28 AM
I think you should go as cheap as possible on the brakes. Save the cash for a cool fender eliminator or tank pad

:rf:

I have kevlar lines. I think they're cheaper than braided. Try them.

Kevlar expands. Not anywhere near as much as stock rubber, but SS braided is still superior.
Switch
03-24-2010, 10:37 AM
I don't see an issue with it personally. If it is DOT rated, then there you have it. Many people I know have gone to this place in Knoxville, http://www.royalbrassandhose.com/, and gotten braided lines for about $20. As long as the quality is up to snuff, I think you'll be fine. You are just paying for a name with Galfer and Bridgestone, it's not like they get special stainless line that no one else has access to.
Kerry_129
03-24-2010, 10:56 AM
Agreed. The name-brands have a HIGH markup, and I can easily see being able to produce comparable lines for much lower cost. It's just a short length of tubing with 2 swaged ends - very easy to make, and not a lot to screw up.


Kevlar expands. Not anywhere near as much as stock rubber, but SS braided is still superior.

The braided covering has nothing to do with the rigidity of the line - it's just a covering/reinforcement. The increased resistance to expansion - 'squishiness' - is due to the more rigid teflon tubing.
ontwo
03-24-2010, 10:58 AM
But I got a wristband and stickers with my Galfers
Amber Lamps
03-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Agreed. The name-brands have a HIGH markup, and I can easily see being able to produce comparable lines for much lower cost. It's just a short length of tubing with 2 swaged ends - very easy to make, and not a lot to screw up.



The braided covering has nothing to do with the rigidity of the line - it's just a covering/reinforcement. The increased resistance to expansion - 'squishiness' - is due to the more rigid teflon tubing.

Wait, the stainless steel braided cover DOES NOT limit the lines expansion?!?

REALLY? So you could make a rubber line with a teflon inner core and it would be the same?:idk:
Kerry_129
03-24-2010, 11:41 AM
Yep, pretty certain that's the case. If you look at the braiding of the sheath, it's cross-woven. It expands to slip over the tubing, and wouldn't do anything to resist expanding outward if the tubing core expanded (the expansion we're talking about it TINY).

A high-pressure hydraulic line, on the other hand, typically will have a spiral-wound reinforcing wire which actually does reinforce/limit the line's expansion.