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[marko138]

For those of us who carry a concealed weapon on a regular basis...has anyone here had to draw their weapon? If so, why?



Me, I've only been carrying for a month. I've not had to draw my weapon, hope I never have to.

[Cutty72]

Yup, didn't have a rifle available to shoot at the coyote. :lol:

I too hope that is all the more I will ever have to draw it for.

[RACER X]

naw

[nhgunnut]

On one Occasion when a former client who made several threats after being incarcerated appeared outside my office causing a disturbance was the only time my handgun cleared the holster for something other than recreation. Police came and dealt with him ( a Taser and 4 officers were involved ) and he never saw my pistol. None the less he is a mentally ill meth freak (rare here in New England) with a history of armed assault. I would have hated to shoot him but at that moment I was as prepared as I ever have been to use deadly force.

[marko138]

On one Occasion when a former client who made several threats after being incarcerated appeared outside my office causing a disturbance was the only time my handgun cleared the holster for something other than recreation. Police came and dealt with him ( a Taser and 4 officers were involved ) and he never saw my pistol. None the less he is a mentally ill meth freak (rare here in New England) with a history of armed assault. I would have hated to shoot him but at that moment I was as prepared as I ever have been to use deadly force.
I'm sure that was intense.

[z06boy]

I've carried concealed for 20 + years and have drawn my handgun twice.

Once at work when a vagrant had snuck into the building at night and was hiding behind a door. I was working in a 40 story building at the time and that was a bit spooky...heard a sound...dark area...and then while pushing a door open...it stops and I hear a thud...it was the guys foot...he was hiding behind the door. This was after business hours.

He immediately about crapped his pants and exited with no problem but I wasn't sure if he was by himself or not so it was kind of weird until I left that night.

The other time was a roadrage type thing...two guys at night tried to block me in and approach me with baseball bats but you should have seen the look on their faces when they saw me sitting there calmly...staring at them and smiling while licking the barrel of my Glock. :whatwhat: Yeah I like using pschcological warfare...it worked...they said something to the fact of "GD...this dudes crazy...let's get the feck out of here" and spun their tires while accelerating quickly away from me. :lol

That's it in 20 + years.

Now I've had my hand on it a few times...ready....but didn't actually have to draw it...mostly work related.

[defector]

Going on 14 years CC and haven't had to yet.
I did once, before I was legally allowed to carry concealed.

[Speedracer42]

I never have, and odds say I never will. But its def an insurance type thing. I feel much better with it than without.

[Kaneman]

Been carrying for 7 years, never had to draw it on a human, but I did kill a couple Water Moccasins while I was out fishing once that weren't deterred by repeated hits from an oar. :lol: Those motherfuckers were determined to get in my boat.

[marko138]

Been carrying for 7 years, never had to draw it on a human, but I did kill a couple Water Moccasins while I was out fishing once that weren't deterred by repeated hits from an oar. :lol: Those motherfuckers were determined to get in my boat.
That would definitely be considered a threat.

[Kaneman]

That would definitely be considered a threat.

It was breeding season and they were extremely aggressive that year. Used to see what would look like a dozen of them rolled up into a ball, having what I assume was a massive reptilian orgy, just goin right down the river.

[marko138]

It was breeding season and they were extremely aggressive that year. Used to see what would look like a dozen of them rolled up into a ball, having what I assume was a massive reptilian orgy, just goin right down the river.
Snakes creep me out.

[Bluestreak]

been carrying for 5+ years and I've never had to draw. I've come close, but it's never cleared the holster.

[tached1000rr]

I've carried concealed legally for about 5 years and never have. As a youngster many moons ago I carried and there were a few times when I'm sure it saved my life. :whistle:

[wildchild]

i don't have CCW but prev once I have had one sitting at the ready. I've had them pulled on me 3 times. Always in North Carolina. LOL

[z06boy]

i don't have CCW but prev once I have had one sitting at the ready. I've had them pulled on me 3 times. Always in North Carolina. LOL

Well you are from Wisconsin...j/k. :rofl:

Seriously though...where in NC ?

[wildchild]

Well you are from Wisconsin...j/k. :rofl:

Seriously though...where in NC ?


LOL thanks.

twice in Fayetteville and once just east of the mountains on our way to Grandmas house.

[z06boy]

LOL thanks.

twice in Fayetteville and once just east of the mountains on our way to Grandmas house.

Fayetteville definitely doesn't surprise me.

[tached1000rr]

Fayetteville definitely doesn't surprise me.

Yep, there's a reason it's often called fayettenam....

[Trip]

had a guy on the dragon pull one on everyone sitting at the overlook, he was pissed about the rice rockets passing him.

[marko138]

had a guy on the dragon pull one on everyone sitting at the overlook, he was pissed about the rice rockets passing him.
What happened when he pulled it? How did this situation end?

[tached1000rr]

had a guy on the dragon pull one on everyone sitting at the overlook, he was pissed about the rice rockets passing him.

He was just crazy! Clearly not an appropriate reason to draw, unless he was somehow saying he was put at imminent risk by the rice rockets!:lol

[Trip]

What happened when he pulled it? How did this situation end?

He yelled a lot and left. No one did anything. They told the cop and gave him his license plate. Don't know if they tracked the guy down or not.

[CasterTroy]

Twice since 93

Once at a light back in the late 90's when carjackings were on kind of a high. I was in my truck at a stoplight downtown in Winston Salem and this dude came running up with what looked like one of those miniature baseball bats you get for being the first 100 in the park...anyway he came running up to the door trying to open it, holding the bat up telling me to "open the fucking door".

Typically this would have rattled me pretty bad, but for some reason I was really calm, and took my pistol from the center console and set it on my leg and looked at him......then he just ran back off.

I'll admit, that by the next stoplight my heart was racing and I was shaking from the rush..but I was rather proud of myself for staying calm.

Second time was just last year...I was in my office which is buried pretty deep in my firm, and I heard the secretary (the boss' daughter) saying "PLEASE LEAVE" so I grabbed the pistol I keep in the bottom of the filing cabinet and walked up front. She and I were the only ones in the office at the time and a crackhead had wondered in talking about how back in 1987 our office was a Dr's office and he had gotten a prescription here, and wanted a refill. :idk: He kept saying it and she had no idea what to do.
I didn’t RAISE the pistol, but rather just had it in my hand down by my side as I walked up.

When he saw me he looked at my hand and simply turned and walked back out. We both had a fit afterwards but laughed it off.
Still…that one had my pulse racing as it happened.

Neither one of these was eventful, or worthy of sending to some soldier of fortune magazine for publishing :lmao: but in both cases, I certainly believe there would have been a different outcome had I not been armed.

[marko138]

He was just crazy! Clearly not an appropriate reason to draw, unless he was somehow saying he was put at imminent risk by the rice rockets!:lol
Even so, if everyone was stopped at the look out that means they passed him. With that, his alleged "danger" or "threat" would have passed as well. So by him stopping and pulling the gun he's now gone from potential "victim" to the aggressor.

[z06boy]

Even so, if everyone was stopped at the look out that means they passed him. With that, his alleged "danger" or "threat" would have passed as well. So by him stopping and pulling the gun he's now gone from potential "victim" to the aggressor.

Correct

[Trip]

Even so, if everyone was stopped at the look out that means they passed him. With that, his alleged "danger" or "threat" would have passed as well. So by him stopping and pulling the gun he's now gone from potential "victim" to the aggressor.

oh he was definitely the aggressor. Everyone at the overlook didn't come from the direction he came from, I believe he was making his way south, so he still had 9 miles to go. People sitting at the overlook were just about to get the chance to pass him. It was preemptive.

[z06boy]

Yep, there's a reason it's often called fayettenam....

Absolutely...I used to live in Dunn...25 miles from there and we'd go up there at night sometimes and it was usually...uh...interesting. :lol:

[marko138]

oh he was definitely the aggressor. Everyone at the overlook didn't come from the direction he came from, I believe he was making his way south, so he still had 9 miles to go. People sitting at the overlook were just about to get the chance to pass him. It was preemptive.
I understand that. My point is just that even if every single person there was a threat to him when they were going down the road, at that point in time they are no longer a threat to him. Him stopping to confront everyone turns the tables on who the threat is.

[tached1000rr]

I understand that. My point is just that even if every single person there was a threat to him when they were going down the road, at that point in time they are no longer a threat to him. Him stopping to confront everyone turns the tables on who the threat is.

I agree, I was just being silly....

[wildchild]

Fayetteville definitely doesn't surprise me.

yeah it was an interesting place. was at Ft Bragg for two years.

[racedoll]

How is it that a few of you can keep it at work? Don't most businesses have a posting that you can't have weapons on the premises?

[Kaneman]

How is it that a few of you can keep it at work? Don't most businesses have a posting that you can't have weapons on the premises?

Can't speak for these guys, but my comfy corporate office job put me in contact with some very dangerous people. Very, very dangerous people. Since my company A) Wouldn't let me use a fake name when I dealt with them B) did nothing to protect me and C) Wouldn't so much as let me carry a pocket knife (I almost got fired for having a Spyderco), I just started carrying my 1911 .45 in my bag or lunch box (and I wore my Spyderco as a boot knife).

Since then, Texas has determined that employers do not have the legal right to keep people from carrying a firearm in their car onto the company parking lot. But, I'm assuming you could still get fired for it, just not arrested or cited.

[Trip]

I understand that. My point is just that even if every single person there was a threat to him when they were going down the road, at that point in time they are no longer a threat to him. Him stopping to confront everyone turns the tables on who the threat is.

I don't understand how a motorcycle is a threat at all to a cage. The car would just knock it out of the way. He was just being a douche.

[t-homo]

I figured he was a cruiser fag or something, even more pathetic that he was in a car.

[Trip]

I figured he was a cruiser fag or something, even more pathetic that he was in a car.

no, they are their own moving weapons, they don't need a gun. Just more alcohol from their saddlebags.

[marko138]

Racedoll...in Pa, your work place is the only place other than home where you can conceal a weapon "on or about your person" without a license. Many work places do state that no weapons are allowed. I currently work for the government. We are not allowed to have weapons in the State capitol building (which I don't think they can legally enforce, but that's another thread...)

When I worked at the local abc tv affiliate they also had a no weapon policy. But to be honest, had I owned a gun when I worked there I woulda carried. I worked overnights and was in really bad parts of town by myself with hundreds of thousands of dollars in video gear. To me, that would have been worth violating the company policy.

[CasterTroy]

How is it that a few of you can keep it at work? Don't most businesses have a posting that you can't have weapons on the premises?


Small southern engineering office with only 7 employee's

We're all pretty much cut from the same mold with the same values....and pretty much all have a gun in our filing cabinets.



Zombies ya know :idk:

[nhgunnut]

How is it that a few of you can keep it at work? Don't most businesses have a posting that you can't have weapons on the premises?
First no , Most businesses do not have such postings. Next there is more than a little indication that such postings are illegal. Yes I know of some ruling that have up held them but there remains a serious question of the individuals rights being infringed upon and several courts have ruled that since a car or locked brief case is the property of the individual the business does not have jurisdiction over the private property. (CHECK YOUR STATE)
I am aware that at least one of the posts was written buy someone who is responsible for the security of others and their company would consider him derelict if he wasn't armed.
I am technically in private practice and contract to state DOC agencies (one of them MA has some of the most prohibitive firearms law in the nation) I have concealed carry permits and as a rule choose to Practice at least 50 miles from my home as a measure of personal security. I carry only in the Leased office Space in the Corrections Centers I do not have to, There is already a Security Force present.

[Rider]

First no , Most businesses do not have such postings. Next there is more than a little indication that such postings are illegal. Yes I know of some ruling that have up held them but there remains a serious question of the individuals rights being infringed upon and several courts have ruled that since a car or locked brief case is the property of the individual the business does not have jurisdiction over the private property. (CHECK YOUR STATE)
I am aware that at least one of the posts was written buy someone who is responsible for the security of others and their company would consider him derelict if he wasn't armed.
I am technically in private practice and contract to state DOC agencies (one of them MA has some of the most prohibitive firearms law in the nation) I have concealed carry permits and as a rule choose to Practice at least 50 miles from my home as a measure of personal security. I carry only in the Leased office Space in the Corrections Centers I do not have to, There is already a Security Force present.

I don't know if it is legal or not but my employer has a no weapons policy. You're not even allowed to have a weapon in your car while it is on the property.

[z06boy]

yeah it was an interesting place. was at Ft Bragg for two years.

I hear ya man. I was down the road a little at Camp Lejeune for a few years not too long after that. When I went to Fayetteville after I joined the Marines I made sure I didn't wear any 'USMC' gear when out bar hopping at night with my civilian friends from Dunn. :lol:

[z06boy]

How is it that a few of you can keep it at work? Don't most businesses have a posting that you can't have weapons on the premises?

I work for a large corporation and nobody here is supposed to be armed at all except for some security guys and off duty police officers that are hired by the bank.

I have worked in regular corporate security and then later executive protection on an off through the years here and they actually bought my Glock 27 for me several years ago. They had me buy it in my name and then accounts payable reimbursed me.

[marko138]

I don't know if it is legal or not but my employer has a no weapons policy. You're not even allowed to have a weapon in your car while it is on the property.

Those are the kinds of policies that a lot of courts have upheld as non-enforceable. But, they would probably still fire you.

[wildchild]

I work for a large corporation and nobody here is supposed to be armed at all except for some security guys and off duty police officers that are hired by the bank.

I have worked in regular corporate security and then later executive protection on an off through the years here and they actually bought my Glock 27 for me several years ago. They had me buy it in my name and then accounts payable reimbursed me.

that's the kind of job I need!! One that buys me guns.

we're not allowed to even hint at having a gun in our vehicles in the parking lot here. I like to mess with people and every now and then park outside of the fence. someone always asks "do you have a gun in your truck today?"
just smirk and walk away, then the whispers start. love it.

[wildchild]

I hear ya man. I was down the road a little at Camp Lejeune for a few years not too long after that. When I went to Fayetteville after I joined the Marines I made sure I didn't wear any 'USMC' gear when out bar hopping at night with my civilian friends from Dunn. :lol:


yeah I just spent as much time as possible in Myrtle Beach. Had that roadtrip down to the minute, in time to have 1/2 hour nap then into formation. LOL

[fnfalman]

The only incident I've ever had was back in 1993. I was at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque then and I "think" that it was a weekend day, probably Saturday. I was driving to lunch with my then honey and we were at a stop light on Central Blvd right at the campus heading east. I heard some engine revving to my left and I looked over to see two youths looking at me revving engine in some POS lowrider. I was in my turbo Probe GT then (loved that car). The light turned green and I stomped it, but as fate decreed, the next light turned red. So the passenger punk stuck his head out & asked me if I think I'm fast. I said yes and he said if I think I'm faster than a bullet.

I pulled out my P220 and the chick started to panick. I just cycled the slide and unchambered the round in there, reached out and threw it in their car. Their eyes popped open. The light turned green and they hauled ass.

The chick then ragged on me about the shit afterward. I told her that I don't take it lightly when people threaten me with physical violence. We broke up soon afterward. Fucking liberal bitch. She did have a hot bod though. Nipples that would poke your eyes out. Too bad this was the pre-digital pocket camera era.

[Trip]

The only incident I've ever had was back in 1993. I was at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque then and I "think" that it was a weekend day, probably Saturday. I was driving to lunch with my then honey and we were at a stop light on Central Blvd right at the campus heading east. I heard some engine revving to my left and I looked over to see two youths looking at me revving engine in some POS lowrider. I was in my turbo Probe GT then (loved that car). The light turned green and I stomped it, but as fate decreed, the next light turned red. So the passenger punk stuck his head out & asked me if I think I'm fast. I said yes and he said if I think I'm faster than a bullet.

I pulled out my P220 and the chick started to panick. I just cycled the slide and unchambered the round in there, reached out and threw it in their car. Their eyes popped open. The light turned green and they hauled ass.

The chick then ragged on me about the shit afterward. I told her that I don't take it lightly when people threaten me with physical violence. We broke up soon afterward. Fucking liberal bitch. She did have a hot bod though. Nipples that would poke your eyes out. Too bad this was the pre-digital pocket camera era.

That's like an epic battle to see who is the biggest douche. You won, good job.

[Kaneman]

That's like an epic battle to see who is the biggest douche. You won, good job.

:lol: Yea, I didn't quite understand that response either? The last thing I'm going to do if someone is threatening me is A) Let them know I'm armed and B) Throw them the bullet from my chamber.

[Cutty72]

I don't know if it is legal or not but my employer has a no weapons policy. You're not even allowed to have a weapon in your car while it is on the property.

GF's employer is the same way. I told her to tell them that I was driving the vehicle that day, and dropped her off.

It sucks that I will not be able to carry at work when I get back either.

[Krypt Keeper]

Been carrying for about 5 yrs with my CCW, use to open carry some mostly during hunting season.

Only time that I felt threatened was at a strip mall parking lot late at night with my wifes cousin. Walking to the car some guy (late teens early 20's in all black suit and shirt, but wearing driving gloves, (think of Hitman minus being bald) was running between cars to cut us off.

I told my buddy to hold on, reach my hand to my gun on my side. It was still mostly covered and holstered. Almost to us he went to reach into his inner suit pocket at the same asking if we have accepted Christ.

I quickly yelled at him to stop kinda startling him before he could finish his sentance. Then asked him if he had a fucking clue how stupid it was to run up on people at night wearing all black and then go reaching into a pocket.

He just mumbled sorry to us. He wanted to give us a card to some church.

[fnfalman]

:lol: Yea, I didn't quite understand that response either? The last thing I'm going to do if someone is threatening me is A) Let them know I'm armed and B) Throw them the bullet from my chamber.

Don't you cycle out your chambered round for a fresh one now and then?

That's as good of a reason as any. Or perhaps you would have preferred that I pointed the gun at them and told them that it's not polite to threaten people?

That's like an epic battle to see who is the biggest douche. You won, good job.

Go big or go home. If you're gonna be a douchebag then be the biggest douchebag there is.

[Kaneman]

Don't you cycle out your chambered round for a fresh one now and then?

That's as good of a reason as any. Or perhaps you would have preferred that I pointed the gun at them and told them that it's not polite to threaten people?



Go big or go home. If you're gonna be a douchebag then be the biggest douchebag there is.


Yes, I do that almost daily, in the privacy of my home...not in front of someone that just threatened me. :lol:

I mean, I guess you could've pointed the gun at them....if you like jail. Me personally, I can't financially afford to shoot someone unless it's very necessary, so I would've looked for an escape route. Maybe you're rich though, what do I know?

[Speedracer42]

Don't you cycle out your chambered round for a fresh one now and then?







What is a "fresh" round? Whatever is in the pipe is as fresh as whats at the top of the mag. Or the middle or bottom for that matter.

[fnfalman]

Yes, I do that almost daily, in the privacy of my home...not in front of someone that just threatened me. :lol:

I mean, I guess you could've pointed the gun at them....if you like jail. Me personally, I can't financially afford to shoot someone unless it's very necessary, so I would've looked for an escape route. Maybe you're rich though, what do I know?

If some stranger were making hints that they're going to shoot you, what are you gonna do?

[fnfalman]

What is a "fresh" round? Whatever is in the pipe is as fresh as whats at the top of the mag. Or the middle or bottom for that matter.

If you keep reusing the first round to chamber and unchamber, eventually the bullet'd work loose from the crimp and pushes further into the casing. When you light that mutha up, it's gonna make a KaBoom in a very unpleasant way for you.

[Kaneman]

If some stranger were making hints that they're going to shoot you, what are you gonna do?

I'm going to look for a solid escape route and move that way immediately.

What I'm not going to do is pull a firearm on someone who asked me if I can outrun a bullet. Once he has shown that he has a deadly weapon and has actually threatened me, then it becomes a different matter.

But my #1 goal is to escape as quickly as possible.

['73 H1 Triple]

I don't know if it is legal or not but my employer has a no weapons policy. You're not even allowed to have a weapon in your car while it is on the property.

My boss likes guns and "kinda knows" who has CCW :yes:

Or perhaps you would have preferred that I pointed the gun at them and told them that it's not polite to threaten people?


I was driving my suburban to pick up my boat from the marina going east on RT 22 outside of Allentown. Some ricer boys in their slammed honda were swerving at my driver's door ( ok, my running board ) and the passenger was making a "gun" with his hand and pointing it at me. I had already removed my 1911 from the holster and had it in my right hand.

I glanced over at the passenger and held up a shiny magazine ( an extra, not from my weapon ) and his eyes went big. All of a sudden ricer boy decided it was time to leave.

I wrote down the plate number if case they had a bullshit story for the police.

~~~~~~~~~~

The only time I pulled my weapon with the intent to shoot was when I worked at my friend's gunshop. A "middle aged" guy came in , looked around for a bit and asked to see a certain double barrel shotgun. Roger checked the shotgun to make sure it was empty and handed it to him. He was looking it over and was turned very slightly away from us.

Next thing we heard was a slight "plunk,plunk" as something was inserted into the chambers.

In an instant, both Roger and I had our .45's leveled at the guy and the other four people in the store ( all friends of ours, two off duty LEO's, our county firearm instructor and another permit holder ) had there guns drawn too. Roger said "One move and you'll get shot"

The guy said very meekly ( without moving) "They're just snap caps". The one off duty cop was closest to him and took the shotgun ( action still open ) from him. Sure enough, there was two brightly colored snap caps in the chamber.

The cop lectured him on his extreme stupidity that almost got him killed. Roger told him to never ,ever come back to the gunshop.

[marko138]

I'm going to look for a solid escape route and move that way immediately.

What I'm not going to do is pull a firearm on someone who asked me if I can outrun a bullet. Once he has shown that he has a deadly weapon and has actually threatened me, then it becomes a different matter.

But my #1 goal is to escape as quickly as possible.

THIS. Holy shit.

My boss likes guns and "kinda knows" who has CCW :yes:



I was driving my suburban to pick up my boat from the marina going east on RT 22 outside of Allentown. Some ricer boys in their slammed honda were swerving at my driver's door ( ok, my running board ) and the passenger was making a "gun" with his hand and pointing it at me. I had already removed my 1911 from the holster and had it in my right hand.

I glanced over at the passenger and held up a shiny magazine ( an extra, not from my weapon ) and his eyes went big. All of a sudden ricer boy decided it was time to leave.

I wrote down the plate number if case they had a bullshit story for the police.

~~~~~~~~~~

The only time I pulled my weapon with the intent to shoot was when I worked at my friend's gunshop. A "middle aged" guy came in , looked around for a bit and asked to see a certain double barrel shotgun. Roger checked the shotgun to make sure it was empty and handed it to him. He was looking it over and was turned very slightly away from us.

Next thing we heard was a slight "plunk,plunk" as something was inserted into the chambers.

In an instant, both Roger and I had our .45's leveled at the guy and the other four people in the store ( all friends of ours, two off duty LEO's, our county firearm instructor and another permit holder ) had there guns drawn too. Roger said "One move and you'll get shot"

The guy said very meekly ( without moving) "They're just snap caps". The one off duty cop was closest to him and took the shotgun ( action still open ) from him. Sure enough, there was two brightly colored snap caps in the chamber.

The cop lectured him on his extreme stupidity that almost got him killed. Roger told him to never ,ever come back to the gunshop.

Wow, talk about an insanely stupid move.

[fnfalman]

I'm going to look for a solid escape route and move that way immediately.

What I'm not going to do is pull a firearm on someone who asked me if I can outrun a bullet. Once he has shown that he has a deadly weapon and has actually threatened me, then it becomes a different matter.

But my #1 goal is to escape as quickly as possible.

Flight maybe your instinct, but fight is mine.

Uncle Sam didn't train me to take flight whenever violence is escalating.

I don't go looking for shit, but shit were to happen, my first instinct is to prepare to eliminate the shit slinger.

[marko138]

Flight maybe your instinct, but fight is mine.

Uncle Sam didn't train me to take flight whenever violence is escalating.

I don't go looking for shit, but shit were to happen, my first instinct is to prepare to eliminate the shit slinger.
I think his instinct is to stay above the law. You could have easily gone to jail for what you did.

[Kaneman]

Flight maybe your instinct, but fight is mine.

Uncle Sam didn't train me to take flight whenever violence is escalating.

I don't go looking for shit, but shit were to happen, my first instinct is to prepare to eliminate the shit slinger.

I'd say Uncle Sam didn't prepare you for the real world very well then. :lol:
I use my brain when violence is escalating, the big one...not the little primitive brain. My life and my family are too important for bravado.

Should there be no other choice, then my wife and I are both armed.

[Tmall]

I'd say Uncle Sam didn't prepare you for the real world very well then. :lol:
I use my brain when violence is escalating, the big one...not the little primitive brain. My life and my family are too important for bravado.

Should there be no other choice, then my wife and I are both armed.


We all know it's just like the movies. Not like the deputy Kyle Dinkheller video where he's screaming for his life as some nutjob shoots him in the face to finish him off after shooting him in the extremities to immobilize him.

We all know, it's nothing like that. The average person can take numerous bullets and shrug em off, getting shot/shooting somebody ain't no thang..

[Kaneman]

We all know it's just like the movies. Not like the deputy Kyle Dinkheller video where he's screaming for his life as some nutjob shoots him in the face to finish him off after shooting him in the extremities to immobilize him.

We all know, it's nothing like that. The average person can take numerous bullets and shrug em off, getting shot/shooting somebody ain't no thang..

I just wanna know what part of his training they taught him to react to a possibly violent situation by fiddling with and unloading his weapon, making his girlfriend squeal, and then showing the threat the ammo out of his firearm. And if he says "Psychological Warfare Training" I'm going to snarf on my fucking monitor.

I started carrying a live firearm when I was 6 years old. Carried it everyday, and I was always taught what should be the #1 rule of firearms.....Don't Fucking Play With Guns.

[quackPOT]

I've had a CCW for over 10 years and I've only had to point my gun at someone once. It was some road raging fool who stopped in front of me and jumped out with an ASP baton and started running towards my truck. He stopped when he saw the gun, cursed me out, then left.

I've drawn more times than I care to remember though. Like 6 months ago, some dumb whore in a Hummer almost caused a multiple car collision at an intersection (she ran the red light turning right). I along with the other cars that she almost hit started flipping her off. I turned into McD's a block down the road and as I finish my order, she pulls up and 5 guys hop out and start talking shit. I ignore them and pull up to the window when 1 of them starts walking up between the building and my side of the car. I drew and told him (he couldn't see my gun) that I was armed and I WILL DEFEND MYSELF if he steps up to my window. He stopped instantly and they all stood there calling me a pussy (yeah, 5 guys against me and I'm the pussy??) until the McD's guy held a phone out the window and said he was calling the police.

I will always have a gun on me as much as legally possible. I also never leave the house without my Emerson K-bit (weak-side carry) and my Emerson Super-Commander (strong-side carry). People are fucking crazy and I refuse to be a victim. I will do everything in my power to be ready to defend my friends and my loved ones from attack.

[fnfalman]

I just wanna know what part of his training they taught him to react to a possibly violent situation by fiddling with and unloading his weapon, making his girlfriend squeal, and then showing the threat the ammo out of his firearm. And if he says "Psychological Warfare Training" I'm going to snarf on my fucking monitor.

I started carrying a live firearm when I was 6 years old. Carried it everyday, and I was always taught what should be the #1 rule of firearms.....Don't Fucking Play With Guns.

How's jacking the slide to eject the chambered round and simultaneously rechamber another round "fiddling"

What part of training? The part that says, "to close with and destroy the enemy with shock and violence."

[wildchild]

Flight maybe your instinct, but fight is mine.

Uncle Sam didn't train me to take flight whenever violence is escalating.

I don't go looking for shit, but shit were to happen, my first instinct is to prepare to eliminate the shit slinger.

so uncle Sam taught you to give away your ammo to an enemy? Aint what I learned but then again I was in combat arms not supply. :lol

[Kaneman]

How's jacking the slide to eject the chambered round and simultaneously rechamber another round "fiddling"

What part of training? The part that says, "to close with and destroy the enemy with shock and violence."

:lol: You're just fucking with me now right?

[marko138]

:lol: You're just fucking with me now right?
I hope so.

[z06boy]

And if he says "Psychological Warfare Training" I'm going to snarf on my fucking monitor.



:rofl: :rofl:

[fnfalman]

so uncle Sam taught you to give away your ammo to an enemy? Aint what I learned but then again I was in combat arms not supply. :lol

Ammo that can be a hazard to yourself should be given to the enemies. Of course if you have had any unconventional warfare training at all, you'd know that.

[wildchild]

considering the identifiers on the back of my MOS I'd say I had a little training in unconventional warfare.

my unit did not have a 54E at the time so i was sent to school for that as well as my artillery MOS.

Nope they still never told me to throw my ammo at the enemy.

[OneSickPsycho]

Twice since 93

Once at a light back in the late 90's when carjackings were on kind of a high. I was in my truck at a stoplight downtown in Winston Salem and this dude came running up with what looked like one of those miniature baseball bats you get for being the first 100 in the park...anyway he came running up to the door trying to open it, holding the bat up telling me to "open the fucking door".

Typically this would have rattled me pretty bad, but for some reason I was really calm, and took my pistol from the center console and set it on my leg and looked at him......then he just ran back off.

I'll admit, that by the next stoplight my heart was racing and I was shaking from the rush..but I was rather proud of myself for staying calm.

Second time was just last year...I was in my office which is buried pretty deep in my firm, and I heard the secretary (the boss' daughter) saying "PLEASE LEAVE" so I grabbed the pistol I keep in the bottom of the filing cabinet and walked up front. She and I were the only ones in the office at the time and a crackhead had wondered in talking about how back in 1987 our office was a Dr's office and he had gotten a prescription here, and wanted a refill. :idk: He kept saying it and she had no idea what to do.
I didn’t RAISE the pistol, but rather just had it in my hand down by my side as I walked up.

When he saw me he looked at my hand and simply turned and walked back out. We both had a fit afterwards but laughed it off.
Still…that one had my pulse racing as it happened.

Neither one of these was eventful, or worthy of sending to some soldier of fortune magazine for publishing :lmao: but in both cases, I certainly believe there would have been a different outcome had I not been armed.

And then you banged her on the boss' desk?

[fnfalman]

considering the identifiers on the back of my MOS I'd say I had a little training in unconventional warfare.

my unit did not have a 54E at the time so i was sent to school for that as well as my artillery MOS.

Nope they still never told me to throw my ammo at the enemy.

What the hell do the gun bunnies know about unconventional warfare?

[wildchild]

apparently nothing

[HokieDNA01]

Ended up in the middle of a gun fight last night while watching the guys on my softball team play their men's league. I'm assuming it was the local kurdish gangs going at it but about 15-20 shots of 9mm were fired from the parking lot about 100 yards away and we all ended up face down in the dirt. Scary. I am FURIOUS at the Nashville PD's response. Took 6 mins to even get someone on the phone at 911, a young cop was sent out and he just smiled and laughed when I told him what happened. He didn't even look to see if anyone was injured in the area, just got back in his car to write some notes. A suspecious car then came in the parking lot and the cop directed him to leave. It was one of the same damn cars that was there during the shooting and he didn't even question him.

I have lost faith that cops are ANYTHING other then note takers and clean up crew with a fancy badge and gun. I will be carrying mine everywhere from now on.

[Kaneman]

I have lost faith that cops are ANYTHING other then note takers and clean up crew with a fancy badge and gun. I will be carrying mine everywhere from now on.

No, unfortunately, they're much more than that. They're the force that actively carries out laws meant to oppress normal people that are not out to kill or harm anyone else. They are tax collectors with guns and power. Hell, I wish they were just note takers and realized as much.

PS, I'm not trying to stalk you around the internets or anything. :lol:

[HokieDNA01]

I just like how when I got pulled over on the bike a few weekends ago, the cop comes flying up, lights and sirens blazing, and takes it super serious (well I was about to open my wallet and let my money fall out into his jurisdiction, of course it was serious business). Yet when 40 people are upset and face down in the dirt cause bullets are flying the take their sweet ass time and don't even seem to care. I really should have gotten that guys badge number.

[Kaneman]

I just like how when I got pulled over on the bike a few weekends ago the cop comes frying up, lights and sirens blazing, and takes it super serious. Yet when 40 people are upset and face down in the dirt cause bullets are flying the take their sweet ass time and don't even seem to care. I really should have gotten that guys badge number.

When you got pulled over there was an opportunity for the city or state to make money, yes, they take that very very seriously.

When they responded to a bunch of gangbangers shooting in the air or whatever, there is no opportunity to make money, so they didn't care.

You should've told the cops there were gangbangers growing pot or something and that there were lots of nice cars ripe to be confiscated. They would've sent the whole state....maybe even the National Guard!

[wildchild]

When you got pulled over there was an opportunity for the city or state to make money, yes, they take that very very seriously.

When they responded to a bunch of gangbangers shooting in the air or whatever, there is no opportunity to make money, so they didn't care.

You should've told the cops there were gangbangers growing pot or something and that there were lots of nice cars ripe to be confiscated. They would've sent the whole state....maybe even the National Guard!


not to mention the fact that it's pretty safe to say that after running your plate number he knew you were not a threat to him. ah, good time to act like a bad ass is right after you figure out it's a safe place to do that.
I've been saying here for years that all the little "i'm a bad ass cowboy" cops should be required to serve at least two weeks per year in the inner city in order to keep their badge.
get stopped by a cop near where I work and it goes like this. "do you have a license?" (yes) "reason I stopped you was....." (ok) "slow the hell down will you?" (yes sir)
I have been stopped here a few times and it almost always goes that way. they have better things to do then play traffic cop. they'll tell you to slow down but they're not writing paperwork.

[ceo012384]

Only when practicing doing so at the range.