An interesting lunch-hour

[Papa_Complex]

This happened right across the street from the school, around 1:00pm today.

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery2/d/57276-3/P4160279.jpg

[Papa_Complex]

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery2/d/57291-3/P4160283.jpg

[pauldun170]

I bet you it was caused by someone stealing a pear from a cunt with allergy problems who responded to the query "Show yer nipples" with "What am I, Black?"

[Rider]

I believe those "Now Open" signs should be turned off. :lol

[pauldun170]

I believe those "Now Open" signs should be turned off. :lol

:lol:

[the chi]

Did the face of the builing just fall off?

[Rider]

Did the face of the builing just fall off?

Not just the face, the entire wall. What you see there is the backside of the interior drywall.

[Trip]

Did the face of the builing just fall off?

no, that's the way it was built, they like the crappy look

[Papa_Complex]

This building was built in the 1890s and has been renovated more times than I can count, just in the 12 years that I've worked here. The top and bottom of that open section have steel girders, but all that you can see in the opening as Rider states; steel strapping and the back of the drywall.

As to "Now Open" it should more likely read "Was just opened, now closed."

[askmrjesus]

Don't fuck with the Salad King.

He'll eat the face right off your building.

JC

[Particle Man]

Don't fuck with the Salad King.

He'll eat the face right off your building.

JC
:lol:

[Papa_Complex]

Don't fuck with the Salad King.

He'll eat the face right off your building.

JC

That's what you get for opening a sushi joint next to the best Thai food in town.

Ninja wimps.

[Rider]

This building was built in the 1890s and has been renovated more times than I can count, just in the 12 years that I've worked here. The top and bottom of that open section have steel girders, but all that you can see in the opening as Rider states; steel strapping and the back of the drywall.

As to "Now Open" it should more likely read "Was just opened, now closed."

You can see the new brick facade that was put on top of the original brick job without additional supports. The original wall just couldn't take the weight of the facade. There should have been a beam under the facade to support the weight.

[CrazyKell]

I only see red x's. :(

[Papa_Complex]

Sorry Kell, I updated my pics after a brief edit and it screwed up the link. Should be fixed now in the OP.

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery2/d/57285-3/P4160281_crop.jpg

[Papa_Complex]

You can see the new brick facade that was put on top of the original brick job without additional supports. The original wall just couldn't take the weight of the facade. There should have been a beam under the facade to support the weight.

If you look carefully, there's a massive steel girder at the bottom of the section that collapsed.

[CrazyKell]

You work across from Salad King?

What's that place like?

[askmrjesus]

You work across from Salad King?

What's that place like?

Today, extremely busy.

JC

[Kaneman]

I didn't know Mexicans did construction in Canada too.

[Dave]

what you dont see is chuck norris banging a hooker on the other side of that wall

[Rider]

what you dont see is chuck norris banging a hooker on the other side of that wall

I call bullshit. I don't see the shape of a woman's head protruding trough the drywall.

[Dave]

I call bullshit. I don't see the shape of a woman's head protruding trough the drywall.

it got crushed against the solid oak headboard which is the exact size and shape as the hole. Her corpse is still in there oozing from both ends. Go look

[Papa_Complex]

You work across from Salad King?

What's that place like?

Like I said, best Thai in Toronto. I'll take a picture when they reopen :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

I didn't know Mexicans did construction in Canada too.

It was 1890-something, so I'd blame the Irish.

[Particle Man]

It was 1890-something, so I'd blame the Irish.

:beer:

[TommyHotWheel]

I bet you it was caused by someone stealing a pear from a cunt with allergy problems who responded to the query "Show yer nipples" with "What am I, Black?"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/TommyHotWheel/i-see-what-you-fucking-did-there.jpg?t=1271469004Well played sir...

[Dnyce]

in the first pic, it appeared to be a bicycle under the rubble....

[Papa_Complex]

There were 2 or 3 bikes under there. It was hard to tell how many for sure. There are at least two locking posts under that mess and there are frequently 2 bikes to a post.

[Papa_Complex]

Just thought I'd post an update. They closed the street and sidewalk past this building, the day that this incident happened. It's STILL blocked. That section of the building has been torn down to the second floor ceiling line.

It's STILL closed. It's a protected "heritage building" and the owners are apparently in Mumbai. It's suspect that it will turn into a case of "demolition by neglect."

In the meanwhile, two lanes of traffic are closed on one of the busiest surface streets in the city, because of this. Two restaurants will likely go bankrupt, if they haven't already. Maybe 50 people are out of work. I think that it's time the city started billing the owners for what they've done.

[Papa_Complex]

And now, after all this time with that building still unrepaired, it has burnt to the ground. Surprised?

What a day to leave my camera at home.

[Particle Man]

And now, after all this time with that building still unrepaired, it has burnt to the ground. Surprised?

What a day to leave my camera at home.

did anyone save the Tata at the end? :D

[Papa_Complex]

Say what?

Story here: http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110103/110103_fire/20110103/?hub=CP24Home

No Tatas. Tatas all gone.

[Homeslice]

So let me get this straight, they put fake bricks over real bricks?

[tallywacker]

Well had to get insurance money somehow.

[Papa_Complex]

So let me get this straight, they put fake bricks over real bricks?

It's an old style of construction referred to as "double-brick." Both the internal and external walls are brick, usually with a small void in between. In this case nothing else was used to reinforce the construction so when the mortar deteriorated, the wall came down.

[sherri_chickie]

Just watching the news. It burnt down.

[Papa_Complex]

Yup, pretty much to the ground. It's just a shell of barely able to stay upright brick walls now.

[Captain Morgan]

And now, after all this time with that building still unrepaired, it has burnt to the ground. Surprised?

What a day to leave my camera at home.

No cell phone camera?

[Papa_Complex]

No cell phone camera?

I don't believe in them. A phone is a phone, not a Swiss Army Knife. Couldn't have gotten anything worth keeping, anyway. The lights I was backlit in the Library building and those lights can't be turned off. If they could have been, I could have gotten a spectacular shot of two firemen, right outside the window, with the hose running and the fire right behind them.

... if I'd had a camera.

... if I could control the lighting.

... but I didn't and couldn't.

[azoomm]

I don't believe in them. A phone is a phone, not a Swiss Army Knife. Couldn't have gotten anything worth keeping, anyway. The lights I was backlit in the Library building and those lights can't be turned off. If they could have been, I could have gotten a spectacular shot of two firemen, right outside the window, with the hose running and the fire right behind them.

... if I'd had a camera.

... if I could control the lighting.

... but I didn't and couldn't.
And, we are back to THAT conversation :lol:

[Rangerscott]

Send in your photos of when the wall fell.

I thought the flashy news intros where bad in my area. I bought had a photosensitive epileptic seizure.

[Papa_Complex]

Then:

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery2/d/57272-3/P4160278.jpg

Now:

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery2/d/78709-3/R1051180.JPG

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery2/d/78712-3/R1051181.JPG

Sorry for the quality of the shots.

[Papa_Complex]

At this point, they're assuming arson. It seems that they have video of someone entering the property, prior to the fire. Since the only police camera is likely blocked from seeing past the hoardings, the footage likely came from our cameras.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/christie-blatchford/firefighters-face-increasing-peril-as-vacant-death-traps-proliferate/article1860962/

[Papa_Complex]

So now, more than 2 years later, they've made an arrest in this arson case.


Yonge St. arson: Arrest made in major fire at Toronto heritage building (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1227200--yonge-st-arson-arrest-made-in-major-fire-at-toronto-heritage-building)

Kaleigh Rogers
Staff Reporter

Police say the arrest of a 53-year-old Toronto man in connection to a 2011 blaze that destroyed a Yonge St. heritage building will likely lead to more charges in relation to other fires around the city.

Stewart Poirier was brought into police custody Friday for failing to comply with probation and for allegedly threatening death to a resident at the Toronto Community Housing building where he was staying.

Police say an interview with Poirier and evidence from the investigation led to his arrest in connection with a fire in January of last year at 335 Yonge St. — a Toronto landmark that once housed the former Empress Hotel — as well as a fire on Thursday at a TCH building on Sackville St.

Poirier now faces nine charges, including arson and attempted murder. At the time of the arrest, he was serving probation after spending six months in jail for an arson conviction for a fire on Jarvis St. in February 2011.

Police say it’s likely further charges will be laid as they continue their investigation.

“We’re looking into a number of previous occurrences within our own division and certainly within the downtown city core,” Toronto police Insp. Gary Meissner said, adding the evidence currently indicates the acts were “deliberate and calculated.”

The 2011 six-alarm blaze froze Yonge St. traffic, brought 32 trucks and 125 firefighters to the scene, put three firefighters in hospital and completely destroyed the 123-year-old landmark building.

“(The fire) had a cascading effect . . . on the commerce, the tourism, the safety and well-being of individuals frequenting that area as well as on fire emergency services and other emergency personnel,” Meissner said, calling the charges a “significant arrest” for Toronto police.

Now merely an empty, fenced-off lot, 335 Yonge St.’s next-door neighbour HMV still bears the charred reminders of the blaze on its external wall.

Owners of the building and property, the family-owned Lalani Group, are still under investigation in relation to last year’s fire, according to police. The company did not respond to a request for an interview on Monday.

Part of the building, The Salad King — a popular haunt for nearby Ryerson University students — was destroyed in the fire and had to relocate to a second-floor location across Yonge St.

General manager and son of the owners, Alan Liu, said business has never quite been the same.

“Having lost that one year, there is a break in Ryerson students that know about Salad King. Some of them haven’t been told about us. We’re trying to recapture that market,” Liu said.

“It’s just kind of tragic. Every day at our restaurant we oversee the old location and it’s an empty lot.”

Poirier is set to appear in court on Thursday.

With files from Alexandra Bosanac

[Papa_Complex]

Well it's finally over with. They gave the guy who was charged in this, and a couple of other arsons a 10 year sentence.