Steering Damper?

[Full Throttle]

What kind of dampener should i get for my R6. Its a 2000. I have no idea what would be good. I looked at Ohlins and Pitbull but they are so different i have no idea what im looking for.

[Sean]

Are you having that much of an issue with headshake?

[OTB]

Personally, I'd use a hose.

But if'n you want to get rid of a little headshake, a Scott's steering damper would work just fine...........

[CrazyKell]

Linear piston > rotary and Ohlins is better than all!

[Full Throttle]

Are you having that much of an issue with headshake?
No im not having any really. On the way to school this morning it felt like i was stuck to a railroad track. The thing is great i just thought it was highly recommended to get one.

Personally, I'd use a hose.

But if'n you want to get rid of a little headshake, a Scott's steering damper would work just fine...........

Ill look into the Hose lol and ill check out Scott's

Linear piston > rotary and Ohlins is better than all!
Alright good deal.

But what i was really looking for was the model of the dampener. I know where to look to find one but there are so many to choose from on their websites idk what to choose.

[z06boy]

Personally, I'd use a hose.

But if'n you want to get rid of a little headshake, a Scott's steering damper would work just fine...........

Linear piston > rotary and Ohlins is better than all!

Agreed. Hard to beat Ohlins linear BUT I know a few that have had great luck with their Scott's rotary as well.

There's also the GPR rotary but I do know that several people had issues with the older units leaking. The newer ones may be better.

http://www.speedycom.co.uk/shop/pictures/thumbnails/t_16709.jpg

[Rider]

I never had an issue on the GSXR with headshake. Come to think of it, I've never experienced headshake on any bike I've ridden.

[Dave]

Agreed. Hard to beat Ohlins linear BUT I know a few that have had great luck with their Scott's rotary as well.

There's also the GPR rotary but I do know that several people had issues with the older units leaking. The newer ones may be better.

http://www.speedycom.co.uk/shop/pictures/thumbnails/t_16709.jpg

Paul bird kawasaki runs em ;). And alistair fagan from fast bikes can't shut his fat gob about the gpr. Good enough for me

[z06boy]

I never had an issue on the GSXR with headshake. Come to think of it, I've never experienced headshake on any bike I've ridden.

So far me either. We don't have one on our R6 and it does concern me since the wife rides it the most but again...never experienced it on that or any other bike I've owned.

[z06boy]

Paul bird kawasaki runs em ;). And alistair fagan from fast bikes can't shut his fat gob about the gpr. Good enough for me

Yep...definitely not a problem buying one as far as I'm concerned either...just saw some people having issues with leaking in the older ones but even then...there was no safety issue with them at all and I "think" just replacing a seal even corrected that.

[Dave]

I never had an issue on the GSXR with headshake. Come to think of it, I've never experienced headshake on any bike I've ridden.

I caught a bad case on the f1 once. Not fun. Nearly highsided

[Rider]

I caught a bad case on the f1 once. Not fun. Nearly highsided

Yeah I've seen videos of it happening, I just don't know how to get into that situation.

[Trip]

I had some shake under heavy braking on the SV. The 600rr had one from OEM that was really good. The BMWs antilock linked brakes are nice, so I haven't experienced it yet. Plus because of the suspension setup, the BMW sorted squats instead of diving.

[karl_1052]

I have had headshake, but I just keep on the gas, and it smooths out.

[Cutty72]

I'm actually surprised I haven't experienced it on the Buell with its crazy geometry. But it's been rock solid for me all the time. Granted, I don't push it like some of you guys. I think the GPR is the only option for me anyway.

[marko138]

I never had an issue on the GSXR with headshake. Come to think of it, I've never experienced headshake on any bike I've ridden.
Me either, but thats probably b/c both of my bikes have had a damper on them. :lol:

[Sean]

No im not having any really. On the way to school this morning it felt like i was stuck to a railroad track. The thing is great i just thought it was highly recommended to get one.



Then you don't need a steering damper, you need either to inflate your tire (that's a symptom of low tire pressure) or get one that isn't flat spotted.

[marko138]

Tire pressure should be part of your daily pre-ride inspection.

[Dave]

Yeah I've seen videos of it happening, I just don't know how to get into that situation.

Uneven pavement was all it took. Luckily whoever wrote the nj state test manual did an excellent job and I knew how to save it.

[Trip]

Tire pressure should be part of your daily pre-ride inspection.

you just like blowing things.

[Dave]

Buuurn

[marko138]

you just like blowing things.

Fag.

[CrazyKell]

To those that have never had it, I hope you never experience it.

I had a very near tank slapper on a trip with my father. So bad that my feet came off the pegs and I thought i was coming off the bike right then and there. I saved it but it is the only thing in my riding career that has ever seriously shaken me. I couldn't eat for days. And when I lose my appetite....you know something's up! :lol:

[goof2]

No im not having any really. On the way to school this morning it felt like i was stuck to a railroad track. The thing is great i just thought it was highly recommended to get one.

I've never had any headshake but I think Yamaha tweaked the geometry a bit for 2001 since the 99s and 00s got a reputation for it.

But what i was really looking for was the model of the dampener. I know where to look to find one but there are so many to choose from on their websites idk what to choose.

The Ohlins model number is SD 150 for the 99-02 R6. Be prepared though, most places want $550 or more for the damn thing. I like Ohlins and all but I don't like them that much.

[smileyman]

I have a GPR on my 05 ZX6 and it has saved me several times. No problems at all with the functioning.

My Buell has shaken me up several times and I am definetly in the market. Acceleration wobbles have been severe and I almost crashed landing a sweet mono to hard once.

[Homeslice]

Go with GPR, they are a way better deal than Scotts or Ohlins. They are also low profile and look very nice, available in different colors. The one that's pictured above is outdated, here is the most recent design.....

[CrazyKell]

Go with GPR, they are a way better deal than Scotts or Ohlins. They are also low profile and look very nice, available in different colors. The one that's pictured above is outdated, here is the most recent design.....


Are you crazy? Ohlins above anything else. Nothing wrong with GPR but no way are they "better" than Ohlins. :skep:

[Rider]

Are you crazy? Ohlins above anything else. Nothing wrong with GPR but no way are they "better" than Ohlins. :skep:

Price to performance ratio is better with GPR. Sure, the Ohlins is better but you are going to pay through the ass.

[Trip]

Are you crazy? Ohlins above anything else. Nothing wrong with GPR but no way are they "better" than Ohlins. :skep:

You are thinking of Ohlins shocks, GPR for the price comparison is a better buy.

[CrazyKell]

Price to performance ratio is better with GPR. Sure, the Ohlins is better but you are going to pay through the ass.

No one said anything about price. I'm not performing a price comparison or a dollars to value ratio. I'm just saying, Ohlins is a better damper (and shock too Trip! :lol:).

[marko138]

No one said anything about price. I'm not performing a price comparison or a dollars to value ratio. I'm just saying, Ohlins is a better damper (and shock too Trip! :lol:).
Actually, Homeslice specifically mentioned "better deal" as in PRICE.

[Trip]

No one said anything about price. I'm not performing a price comparison or a dollars to value ratio. I'm just saying, Ohlins is a better damper (and shock too Trip! :lol:).

Well you want to add these things when you are considering. It's not like shocks, ohlins isn't by far the best like it is in the shock world. You will find more scotts and gprs on race bikes at a wera race than you will ohlins. The difference isn't that huge.

[Homeslice]

Are you crazy? Ohlins above anything else. Nothing wrong with GPR but no way are they "better" than Ohlins. :skep:

Has a scientific comparison been conducted?

Everyone thinks Ohlins is the shit, but they have no proof. Just because the name is more well-known doesn't mean the product is superior.

[CrazyKell]

Price to performance ratio is better with GPR. Sure, the Ohlins is better but you are going to pay through the ass.

Has a scientific comparison been conducted?

Everyone thinks Ohlins is the shit, but they have no proof. Just because the name is more well-known doesn't mean the product is superior.

Oh right. No I did not perform any scientific tests before posting this.

There's a reason everyone thinks Ohlins is the shit. :wink:

And dude mentioned in his first post about Ohlins. So he obviously knows what they cost and if he wants to spend the money (on either new or used) in MY OPINION (one shared by many a people) it is superior to the GPR.

And in many people's opinions linear piston (ie. Ohlins) is superior to rotary (ie. GPR). So based on this information.....OHLINS IS SUPERIOR. :boobs:

[Homeslice]

"Dude" most likely only mentioned Ohlins because it's a household name. Not because he's willing to pay that much.

And I've never heard people saying linear is superior to rotary. IMO, linear is an outdated design, it has more likelihood of breaking down because there are multiple force vectors pushing on the bearings and internal seals.

[Trip]

BTW, scotts = ohlins, it's an ohlins design

[CrazyKell]

And I've never heard people saying linear is superior to rotary. IMO, linear is an outdated design, it has more likelihood of breaking down because there are multiple force vectors pushing on the bearings and internal seals.


Have you done a scientific study to confirm this? :lol

[Homeslice]

No, but that's why I said IMO. Unlike others who say "Ohlins is the best" without saying "IMO", like as if it's established fact :lol: redflip

[z06boy]

BTW, scotts = ohlins, it's an ohlins design

Yep

[CrazyKell]

No, but that's why I said IMO. Unlike others who say "Ohlins is the best" without saying "IMO", like as if it's established fact :lol: redflip


Well obviously it's my opinion since I'm saying it. I don't think I need to preface everything with IMO for people to know it's my opinion! :?:

[smileyman]

Maybe Kell likes to pay thru tha ass? LOL.

Really Ohlins makes top quality stuff, BUT they also put their name on some lower tier stuff as well. Fo instance, the Ohlins damper that came on the ZX10 oem wasn't as nicely adjustable or effective as their retail dampers. Also the Ohlins that comes oem on prilias and say the R1 SP are not up to the same spec as the WSBK ohlins stuff. For that matter neither is the drop in 25mm kits. But they are better than stock fork internals

So i have to side with rider.

[racedoll]

You also have options (or did at one time) of a reactive damper. One that knows when you need it. Then there are others that you have to set yourself as well as remember to "unset" when you are at low speeds, otherwise you risk dumping your bike over.

[Dave]

The You also have options (or did at one time) of a reactive damper. One that knows when you need it. Then there are others that you have to set yourself as well as remember to "unset" when you are at low speeds, otherwise you risk dumping your bike over.

The hyperpro rsc is still available but are very prone to leaks

[Full Throttle]

Damn yall blew up my thread lol. I don't post for one day and it goes from 3 responses to 5 pages lol.

But since i'm not experiencing any head-shake and i didn't experience any yesterday in my 152 mile trip then i suppose i'm fine. but i haven't had a chance to really take her through the twisty's as of yet for the simple reason i'm not 100% comfortable with the bike yet. only had it week and it was in the shop half of that time so I've had very little riding time with it. In another week or so when school is out ill be able to go and ride through some mountains and see how she does. But I've had her in 100+ with no problem as of yet (Fingers Crossed).

[Dave]

sprint and bitubo are supposed to be very good as well

[Hydrant]

I have the Hyperpro RSC on the TLR. It's been on for 4-5 years now and I haven't developed any leaks with it. The stock one wasn't horrible, but I would notice that the steering was stiff if you were riding when it was colder.

[DLIT]

Agreed. Hard to beat Ohlins linear BUT I know a few that have had great luck with their Scott's rotary as well.

There's also the GPR rotary but I do know that several people had issues with the older units leaking. The newer ones may be better.

http://www.speedycom.co.uk/shop/pictures/thumbnails/t_16709.jpg

Scotts has Ohlins technology in them. I have a Scotts on my R6, works great. And I have Ohlins suspension which is fucking killer!

[Dave]

I have the Hyperpro RSC on the TLR. It's been on for 4-5 years now and I haven't developed any leaks with it. The stock one wasn't horrible, but I would notice that the steering was stiff if you were riding when it was colder.

One od the few I've heard of that hadnt

[Rangerscott]

I have a SCOTTS damper but I think it needs to be cracked open and checked. You can feel the nice fluid resistance. But right before full left or right, it gives out. Not sure if thats suppose to happen or not.

[Homeslice]

^ It's supposed to be like that. And with the Scotts you can adjust the point when it happens.

[Gas Man]

Yep, there is a setting on the side of the scotts that adjusts how far out does it release.

[Rangerscott]

^ It's supposed to be like that. And with the Scotts you can adjust the point when it happens.

Ok. I can hear an air pocket squish inside it. Wasn't sure if that was suppose to be like that.

[Homeslice]

There will always be a little air, but if it sounds like its too much you can bleed it