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EpyonXero
05-05-2010, 10:17 AM
Im seriously considering deleting my account, not that it will do any good, theyll still have my information and theyll still sell it. This article doesnt even talk about the Facebook "Open Graph" project where as long as you keep your account log in they can track your movements on the web to any site that uses their code on the site. If you see a Facebook Like/Dislike button on a site it means youve been linked to your FB account.

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/05/things-you-need-know-about-facebook

Six Things You Need to Know About Facebook Connections
Commentary by Kurt Opsahl
"Connections." It's an innocent-sounding word. But it's at the heart of some of the worst of Facebook's recent changes.

Facebook first announced Connections a few weeks ago, and EFF quickly wrote at length about the problems they created. Basically, Facebook has transformed substantial personal information — including your hometown, education, work history, interests, and activities — into "Connections." This allows far more people than ever before to see this information, regardless of whether you want them to.

Since then, our email inbox has been flooded with confused questions and reports about these changes. We've learned lots more about everyone's concerns and experiences. Drawing from this, here are six things you need to know about Connections:

Facebook will not let you share any of this information without using Connections. You cannot opt-out of Connections. If you refuse to play ball, Facebook will remove all unlinked information from your profile.

Facebook will not respect your old privacy settings in this transition. For example, if you had previously sought to share your Interests with "Only Friends," Facebook will now ignore this and share your Connections with "Everyone."

Facebook has removed your ability to restrict its use of this information. The new privacy controls only affect your information's "Visibility," not whether it is "publicly available."

Explaining what "publicly available" means, Facebook writes:


"Such information may, for example, be accessed by everyone on the Internet (including people not logged into Facebook), be indexed by third party search engines, and be imported, exported, distributed, and redistributed by us and others without privacy limitations."

Facebook will continue to store and use your Connections even after you delete them. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there. Even after you "delete" profile information, Facebook will remember it. We've also received reports that Facebook continues to use deleted profile information to help people find you through Facebook's search engine.

Facebook sometimes creates a Connection when you "Like" something. That "Like" button you see all over Facebook, and now all over the web? It too can sometimes add a Connection to your profile, without you even knowing it.

Facebook sometimes creates a Connection when you post to your wall. If you use the name of a Connection in a post on your wall, it may show up on the Connection Page, without you even knowing it. (For example, if you use the word "FBI" in a post).

You can send Facebook your comments on the new Connections here.

Rider
05-05-2010, 10:18 AM
I never see the like/dislike button on any other place aside from FB.

Cruzergirl
05-05-2010, 10:39 AM
I saw one on CNN.com...

EpyonXero
05-05-2010, 10:44 AM
I never see the like/dislike button on any other place aside from FB.

This is a new system that just came out. The idea is to make any site on the web, Facebook.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-20003053-36.html

EpyonXero
05-05-2010, 10:48 AM
I saw one on CNN.com...

That means youre still logged in to FB, if you log out the button should go away. Since you were logged in and the button was there, FB now knows that you went to CNN.com and its possible that CNN has some access to your FB information. FB hasnt been clear about what they share with their partners but a lot of people are nervous about this new system.

anthonyk
05-05-2010, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I noticed this on a couple of other sites. CNN had a section that had some of my Facebook friends, and the articles from CNN they liked. Spooky, and almost enough to make me delete my account.

azoomm
05-05-2010, 11:29 AM
I haven't seen it, but I don't stay logged in anymore.

Homeslice
05-05-2010, 12:26 PM
People just don't seem to understand that their need for attention is going to eliminate all their freedom one day.

Kaneman
05-05-2010, 12:39 PM
Read the article earlier this morning and have been thinking about it. I think its time for me to step back from the Facebook world now.

karl_1052
05-05-2010, 01:15 PM
I use firefox, and it is set to clear all history, cache, and login information when it is closed.

I always close it an use a new window when opening sites.

Particle Man
05-05-2010, 01:19 PM
Toss your cookies

Homeslice
05-05-2010, 01:23 PM
FB stores that data internally, such as your "likes" etc......So you're not going to get rid of it by deleting cookies

LeeNetworX
05-05-2010, 01:37 PM
So don't use it.

Captain Morgan
05-05-2010, 01:44 PM
I don't click on too many things on FB. Fucking thing was a pain in the ass when I tried to tell it I didn't want to link information. Kept telling me it wouldn't show up, I'd say ok and delete it, but the fucking message kept popping up anyway. Took at least 5 times of saying I don't want the shit linked before it would delete it. Nice to know FB is keeping the info. Very close to deleting my account. Don't use it for too much, anyway.

Cass
05-05-2010, 01:48 PM
Next thing you know, Google and Facebook are going to join up, and then it really WILL be Skynet.

EpyonXero
05-05-2010, 02:06 PM
FB stores that data internally, such as your "likes" etc......So you're not going to get rid of it by deleting cookies

FB will still have the info that you gave it but deleting cookies and logging out will keep FB info from showing up on other sites.

KSGregman
05-05-2010, 02:11 PM
Is it even possible to "delete" a Facebook account? I saw the option to "de-activate" the account....but not to "delete" it.

Particle Man
05-05-2010, 02:51 PM
FB stores that data internally, such as your "likes" etc......So you're not going to get rid of it by deleting cookies

FB will still have the info that you gave it but deleting cookies and logging out will keep FB info from showing up on other sites.

Epyon said it for me.

Inferno
05-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Alright, this subject kinda pissed me off recently. I was selling my bike, and while at work I responded to few people via my cell phone using my email.

What I saw was a link to my facebook on my reply to their email. I almost never use facebook except talking to a few Marine Corps and Iraq Vet buds, but it had a link to my facebook right there in the email.

WTF? Did this happen to anyone else? Am I an celly noob?

Homeslice
05-05-2010, 06:23 PM
what phone and who is your service?

njchopper87
05-05-2010, 11:39 PM
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/04/how-opt-out-facebook-s-instant-personalization

How to opt out of the info sharing supposedly.

Friday morning Facebook changed its privacy settings layout, making it a bit more challenging to opt out completely. As before, unchecking the "Allow" box is not sufficient because you need to block each Instant Personalization website to fully opt out. However, the previous path (via "Learn More") to the necessary Block Application buttons was removed, with Facebook suggesting instead you first go to the sites (at which point your information is disclosed), and then click "'No Thanks' on the blue Facebook notification on the top of partner sites." To fully opt out, you need to:

1. Go to the Instant Personalization privacy setting and uncheck the "Allow" button. Click confirm. Come back to this page.
2. Go to the page for Microsoft Docs, click Block Application on the page, click Block Application on the pop-up, and click Okay on the next pop-up. Come back to this page.
3. Go to the page for Pandora, click Block Application on the page, click Block Application on the pop-up, and click Okay on the next pop-up. Come back to this page.
4. Go to the page for Yelp , click Block Application on the page, click Block Application on the pop-up, and click Okay on the next pop-up. Come back to this page.
5. Optional: Go to the Facebook Site Governance page, and express your opinion in a comment.

marko138
05-06-2010, 08:03 AM
Facebook is a habitual line stepper. I'm really close to shutting down my account as well. It just get annoying, them constantly trying to make my shit public.

AquaPython
05-06-2010, 09:37 AM
http://geeksaresexy.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/realfacebook.jpg

Homeslice
05-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Dude that's nasty.

Cass
05-07-2010, 07:02 PM
Is it even possible to "delete" a Facebook account? I saw the option to "de-activate" the account....but not to "delete" it.

More info on FB, including a link on deleting... The article is a little lengthy for posting but it makes good points. I snipped it to the 10 reasons (but included the entire listing for the deleting-account part), read the rest at your convenience.

http://www.businessinsider.com/10-reasons-to-delete-your-facebook-account-2010-5


10. Facebook's Terms Of Service are completely one-sided.

9. Facebook's CEO has a documented history of unethical behavior.

8. Facebook has flat out declared war on privacy.

7. Facebook is pulling a classic bait-and-switch.

6. Facebook is a bully.

5. Even your private data is shared with applications.

4. Facebook is not technically competent enough to be trusted.

3. Facebook makes it incredibly difficult to truly delete your account. It's one thing to make data public or even mislead users about doing so; but where I really draw the line is that, once you decide you've had enough, it's pretty tricky to really delete your account. They make no promises about deleting your data and every application you've used may keep it as well. On top of that, account deletion is incredibly (and intentionally) confusing. When you go to your account settings, you're given an option to deactivate your account, which turns out not to be the same thing as deleting it. Deactivating means you can still be tagged in photos and be spammed by Facebook (you actually have to opt out of getting emails as part of the deactivation, an incredibly easy detail to overlook, since you think you're deleting your account). Finally, the moment you log back in, you're back like nothing ever happened! In fact, it's really not much different from not logging in for awhile. To actually delete your account, you have to find a link buried in the on-line help (by "buried" I mean it takes five clicks to get there). Or you can just click here. Basically, Facebook is trying to trick their users into allowing them to keep their data even after they've "deleted" their account.

2. Facebook doesn't (really) support the Open Web.

1. The Facebook application itself sucks.

KSGregman
05-07-2010, 07:31 PM
More info on FB, including a link on deleting... The article is a little lengthy for posting but it makes good points. I snipped it to the 10 reasons (but included the entire listing for the deleting-account part), read the rest at your convenience.

http://www.businessinsider.com/10-reasons-to-delete-your-facebook-account-2010-5

Quality bit of work, this.....thank you.

azoomm
05-07-2010, 10:16 PM
The better idea is to update all the information on the account to bullshit. That is, rather than deactivate.