No smoking

[tommymac]

Apparently they passed a no smoking rule on this entire jobsite, not sure if its DEP or skanska, but smoking is forbidden anywhere on the jobsite. I dont smoke so it doesnt affect me either way. Whats funny is my office is in the back of the jobsite and theres a door just outside that kinda goes nowhere. This has become the new smoking spot. I am wondering how long before the powers that be catch on to this.

i was talking with an engineer about it and he said a handful of management people are taking it very seriously, so this should be interesting. The ban went into effect yesterday so its only a matter of time before someone finds out theyre comming back here. Esp since some of these management people do come back here to see/talk with me about various things.

[Trip]

good, I am tired of smokers

[marko138]

good, I am tired of smokers
This.

[askmrjesus]

good, I am tired of smokers

This.

Some hard hats can't smoke on the job, and that affects you how?

Buncha whiny bitches.

JC

[Rider]

They banned smokinf anywhere on the property here about 2 years ago, but 2 weeks ago MI passed a smoking ban in ALL public locations. :rockwoot:

[Trip]

Some hard hats can't smoke on the job, and that affects you how?

Buncha whiny bitches.

JC

Cause I work on an operating and construction site with hard haters. The fuckers got kicked out of buildings here and they congregate at the entrances. We finally got these little roped off areas for them to smoke, but they still get caught smoking right where people walk through. Smoking is nasty and I don't want to be forced to be around it.

[defector]

My wife's work is now tobacco free, so now all the smokers hang out on the sidewalk (off company property), puffing away.

Reminded me of high school.

[Trip]

What pisses me off too is smokers can get away with taking 15 min breaks every hour or so, but a nonsmoker tries to pull off that shit and the whip gets cracked.

[marko138]

They banned smokinf anywhere on the property here about 2 years ago, but 2 weeks ago MI passed a smoking ban in ALL public locations. :rockwoot:

Pa passed that a few years ago and there are so many loop holes it's totally worthless.

What pisses me off too is smokers can get away with taking 15 min breaks every hour or so, but a nonsmoker tries to pull off that shit and the whip gets cracked.


Exactly. Total horseshit.

[OneSickPsycho]

What pisses me off too is smokers can get away with taking 15 min breaks every hour or so, but a nonsmoker tries to pull off that shit and the whip gets cracked.

As a former smoker, I totally agree. Many of my smoke breaks were less about me needing a smoke, and more about me being sick of dealing with bullshit and wanting a break. I know the same went for many of my smoking compadres...

[tommymac]

Some hard hats can't smoke on the job, and that affects you how?

Buncha whiny bitches.

JC

Funny thing is its not even the field guys its all the office staff here. We have about 250 workers in the field right now and apparently few if any of them smoke. But theres a bunch of office people who do. its kinda like HS with them sneaking away to go outside for a puff. its just a matter of time before they get found out. The secretary/receptionist is a big time smoker and sh ecant keep her motuh shut so I ma sure she will blow up the spot for the rest of them :lol:

[askmrjesus]

Cause I work on an operating and construction site with hard haters. The fuckers got kicked out of buildings here and they congregate at the entrances. We finally got these little roped off areas for them to smoke, but they still get caught smoking right where people walk through. Smoking is nasty and I don't want to be forced to be around it.

I don't like the smell of livers and onions, you want to regulate that too?

All you fucking lung pussies act like you're going to get cancer and fall over dead, just because you had to walk within 20 feet of a smoker.

Whahh. Sack the fuck up.

JC

[Rider]

I don't like the smell of livers and onions, you want to regulate that too?

All you fucking lung pussies act like you're going to get cancer and fall over dead, just because you had to walk within 20 feet of a smoker.

Whahh. Sack the fuck up.

JC

So if some homo(t-rock) wants to rape you in the ass you'd be ok with it? It won't give you cancer.

[tommymac]

So if some homo(t-rock) wants to rape you in the ass you'd be ok with it? It won't give you cancer.

Could give him an std though :lol:

[Trip]

I don't like the smell of livers and onions, you want to regulate that too?

We did in our office. Anyone who tries to cook nasty food in the microwave better not work on our little section.

[tommymac]

We did in our office. Anyone who tries to cook nasty food in the microwave better not work on our little section.

That I cant stand, esp if someone shows up with fish, it stinks up the whole place.

[wildchild]

used to work with a couple russians. OMG everythign they cooked for lunch reeked of garlic and other nasty seasonings. our entire office area smelled like their lunch.

[askmrjesus]

So if some homo(t-rock) wants to rape you in the ass you'd be ok with it? It won't give you cancer.

Yes, because being ass raped and walking past someone who is minding their own fucking businesses, is EXACTLY the same thing...

Did you medal in the Special Olympics, or were you one of the "gold star for everyone" crowd?

JC

[Rider]

Yes, because being ass raped and walking past someone who is minding their own fucking businesses, is EXACTLY the same thing...

Did you medal in the Special Olympics, or were you one of the "gold star for everyone" crowd?

JC

Blowing smoke in someones face is not minding your own business whether it is intentional or not.

[askmrjesus]

Blowing smoke in someones face is not minding your own business whether it is intentional or not.

Oh please.

Nobody is blowing smoke in your face. You walk by, catch a tiny whiff that impacts you for all of 2-3 seconds, and it's the end of the fucking candy-pants universe.

JC

[tommymac]

Oh please.

Nobody is blowing smoke in your face. You walk by, catch a tiny whiff that impacts you for all of 2-3 seconds, and it's the end of the fucking candy-pants universe.

JC

At this site cigarette smoke is the least of ones worries with all the concrete dust and fumes from some of the chemicals being used.

Now theyre arguing over designated smoking areas and one of the main superintendants is against it. if nothing else its keeping me entertained this afternoon.

[Amber Lamps]

What pisses me off too is smokers can get away with taking 15 min breaks every hour or so, but a nonsmoker tries to pull off that shit and the whip gets cracked.

This!

I had a boss that smoked and would take breaks WITH the other smokers but if a non smoker stopped working....:panic:

[Kaneman]

I don't like the smell of livers and onions, you want to regulate that too?

All you fucking lung pussies act like you're going to get cancer and fall over dead, just because you had to walk within 20 feet of a smoker.

Whahh. Sack the fuck up.

JC

This. Goddamn people are weak these days.

[askmrjesus]

At this site cigarette smoke is the least of ones worries with all the concrete dust and fumes from some of the chemicals being used.

Well that's just it, forest for the trees.

A diesel city bus drives by, no one cares. Light up a cigarette, and you're a war criminal, hell bent on the destruction of all that's holy.

Whiny.

Fucking.

Babies.

JC

[Trip]

Well that's just it, forest for the trees.

A diesel city bus drives by, no one cares. Light up a cigarette, and you're a war criminal, hell bent on the destruction of all that's holy.

Whiny.

Fucking.

Babies.

JC

What if people fart in your face, will you take exception to that?

[tommymac]

What if people fart in your face, will you take exception to that?

Farts are funny though :lol:

[Kaneman]

What if people fart in your face, will you take exception to that?

Hey, if he's tall enough to fart in my face standing up then I probably wouldn't say shit to him! :lol:

[askmrjesus]

What if people fart in your face, will you take exception to that?

When you find the nirvana that guarantees you a right to never be nasally offended, please take Rider with you.

I'll be outside, having a smoke, in the real world.

JC

[tommymac]

When you find the nirvana that guarantees you a right to never be nasally offended, please take Rider with you.

I'll be outside, having a smoke.

JC

better be on your own time :lol:

[Trip]

When you find the nirvana that guarantees you a right to never be nasally offended, please take Rider with you.

I'll be outside, having a smoke, in the real world.

JC

Well that's not an answer. Do you mind if people rip a nice stinking one in front of you? Or a some 300 lbs bitch with god awful BO decides you are her new friend and wants to have a lengthy chat?

I don't mind if you smoke, but please do it in your little designated areas. I won't come over there and say anything. :lol:

[askmrjesus]

Well that's not an answer. Do you mind if people rip a nice stinking one in front of you? Or a some 300 lbs bitch with god awful BO decides you are her new friend and wants to have a lengthy chat?

It's not an answer because the question is stupid.

They're already trying to regulate how much fat, salt, and sugar we're "allowed" to use, you want to outlaw gassy food and fat bitches too?

I don't mind if you smoke, but please do it in your little designated areas. I won't come over there and say anything. :lol:

You better not.

I'm already pissed off that I can't even smoke in a fucking bar, because some happy assholes decided it wasn't "fair".

What's funny, is that all the talk about personal liberty, and how everyone is fed up with PC bullshit, goes right out the window when it comes to cigarettes.

JC

[Trip]

What's funny, is that all the talk about personal liberty, and how everyone is fed up with PC bullshit, goes right out the window when it comes to cigarettes.

JC

Because non smokers really hate smoking. It's nasty. You don't mind it because it's what you do, the rest of us don't want to be around that shit so we don't really care when they take it away from you guys.

[azoomm]

Would you like to sign my petition against lung cancer?

That was the question I was asked by someone collecting signatures to get the request for a ban against smoking in public areas onto the ballot in Austin.

She might as well have asked me if I wanted to sign a petition against killing baby kittens.

Though, people voted - it passed. I just found it a shady way to collect signatures. If it would have passed on it's own measure, why not be honest with the first question?

[tommymac]

Would you like to sign my petition against lung cancer?

That was the question I was asked by someone collecting signatures to get the request for a ban against smoking in public areas onto the ballot in Austin.

She might as well have asked me if I wanted to sign a petition against killing baby kittens.

Though, people voted - it passed. I just found it a shady way to collect signatures. If it would have passed on it's own measure, why not be honest with the first question?

its all about shock value to get you to buy into that sort of stuff. kinda like the new anti smoking commercials that show pics of lungs riddled with cancer.

[askmrjesus]

Because non smokers really hate smoking. It's nasty. You don't mind it because it's what you do, the rest of us don't want to be around that shit so we don't really care when they take it away from you guys.

That's my point. Non-smokers seem to believe that personal liberty should only apply to them.

You pushed us out of offices, restaurants and buildings in general. For the most part, we tried to see it your way. You have a problem with indoor smoke, we get that. Now you want to push us off the sidewalks and local parks as well.

So, on behalf of smokers everywhere, we would like to cordially invite you to eat shit, and bark at the moon.

JC

[AquaPython]

They're already trying to regulate how much fat, salt, and sugar we're "allowed" to use, you want to outlaw gassy food and fat bitches too?


i have been lobbying to outlaw fat bitches for YEARS!

[dReWpY]

i have been lobbying to outlaw fat bitches for YEARS!

this!

[Amber Lamps]

its all about shock value to get you to buy into that sort of stuff. kinda like the new anti smoking commercials that show pics of lungs riddled with cancer.

Oh yea because everyone knows that smoking has nothing to do with cancer...:whosr:

[Amber Lamps]

That's my point. Non-smokers seem to believe that personal liberty should only apply to them.

You pushed us out of offices, restaurants and buildings in general. For the most part, we tried to see it your way. You have a problem with indoor smoke, we get that. Now you want to push us off the sidewalks and local parks as well.

So, on behalf of smokers everywhere, we would like to cordially invite you to eat shit, and bark at the moon.

JC

When you can show me how my not smoking adversely affects your health, well being and happiness.... I'm 100% for personal liberties that DON'T affect me. You can do whatever you want as long as I don't have to hear it, see it, smell it, etc...


BTW what happened to all of our eco-warriors? Do you know how long it takes for a cigarette butt to break down? Do you know how much nicotine (a poison) and other chemicals are introduced into the soil and groundwater from butts? Do you realize that the same chemicals are released into the air from smoking that are released from cars? You don't call that pollution?:idk:

Oh and you love to call my intelligence into question, how incredibly stupid do you have to be to use something that gives ZERO benefits and that you know will eventually bring you to a horrible and pain full death? Now that's a "dim bulb"!

[Amber Lamps]

Well that's not an answer. Do you mind if people rip a nice stinking one in front of you? Or a some 300 lbs bitch with god awful BO decides you are her new friend and wants to have a lengthy chat?

I don't mind if you smoke, but please do it in your little designated areas. I won't come over there and say anything. :lol:

No, no, no that's not good enough! They are like gays, and other fringe groups, it's not good enough to be able to do something, the rest of us must accept it. We must have it in our faces, we must experience it with them.... I don't know, go ahead and kill your selves but if it were up to me, you wouldn't get state sponsored health care, right along with the obese, homosexuals, drug addicts, etc.

[upshift]

I like this thread and I have only read maybe half. From what I've gathered we have people on one side wearing "Emphysema FTW!" t-shirts and the other side wearing "I like my clean air, leave it alone!" shirts. :lol

I myself don't have a problem with smoking/smokers but I'm glad it's outta the stores, offices, etc... because it's a health hazard. That and the smell isn't all that great. And everyone is talking about lung cancer like it's the only risk, which it's not. I work in the medical field and I have seen what it can do and it's sad. I did find it amusing however when I was jokingly told by a doctor to tell a patient to cut their 5 packs a week down to one and they could afford their med. It may sound bad to say but the doc had a point: the patient would gladly spend $25+ a week on cigarettes but spending near what they pay for cigarettes on a prescription? Out of the question.

[Amber Lamps]

I like this thread and I have only read maybe half. From what I've gathered we have people on one side wearing "Emphysema FTW!" t-shirts and the other side wearing "I like my clean air, leave it alone!" shirts. :lol

I myself don't have a problem with smoking/smokers but I'm glad it's outta the stores, offices, etc... because it's a health hazard. That and the smell isn't all that great. And everyone is talking about lung cancer like it's the only risk, which it's not. I work in the medical field and I have seen what it can do and it's sad. I did find it amusing however when I was jokingly told by a doctor to tell a patient to cut their 5 packs a week down to one and they could afford their med. It may sound bad to say but the doc had a point: the patient would gladly spend $25+ a week on cigarettes but spending near what they pay for cigarettes on a prescription? Out of the question.

Whenever someone comes up to me with a cigarette in one hand and a beer in the other saying how they wish they could afford a bike, I tell them that the payment is already in their hands.

[101lifts2]

Since I smoked for 4 years I understand why people smoke. My take is this....You should be able to smoke in designated INDOOR areas that are ventilated. Bars should also have designated areas to smoke. This go outside stuff in the Northern states is pure bullshit IMO. You go to a bar to smoke, drink and pick up chicks.

[Amber Lamps]

Since I smoked for 4 years I understand why people smoke. My take is this....You should be able to smoke in designated INDOOR areas that are ventilated. Bars should also have designated areas to smoke. This go outside stuff in the Northern states is pure bullshit IMO. You go to a bar to smoke, drink and pick up chicks.

I think there should be smoking bars and non smoking bars. The smoking bars should have to get special licensing or something. BTW obviously "MOST" people don't go to bars to smoke or these laws would never be passed. I don't think that people shouldn't be allowed to smoke, I just think that I shouldn't have to deal with it. I really don't think that is too unreasonable.

[derf]

I think there should be smoking bars and non smoking bars. The smoking bars should have to get special licensing or something. BTW obviously "MOST" people don't go to bars to smoke or these laws would never be passed. I don't think that people shouldn't be allowed to smoke, I just think that I shouldn't have to deal with it. I really don't think that is too unreasonable.

My buddy Alex (never eifel towered a girl with him, but I screwed his wife 10 years before he did) has a bar and once the smoking ban was enacted he lost most of his bussiness, so to bring bussiness back he made his bar smaller, fired 1/4 of his workers and brought smoking back once he was under the size limits. He's doing more bussiness than ever now

[Amber Lamps]

My buddy Alex (never eifel towered a girl with him, but I screwed his wife 10 years before he did) has a bar and once the smoking ban was enacted he lost most of his bussiness, so to bring bussiness back he made his bar smaller, fired 1/4 of his workers and brought smoking back once he was under the size limits. He's doing more bussiness than ever now

Oh hey I live in NC, I know people smoke!:lol: I just hate the smoker's attitude of, "hey, if you don't want to deal with our stench, then stay at home". The worst part is how most bars don't have adequate ventilation to deal with that many people smoking inside.

[Adeptus_Minor]

You pushed us out of offices, restaurants and buildings in general. For the most part, we tried to see it your way. You have a problem with indoor smoke, we get that. Now you want to push us off the sidewalks and local parks as well.


That's life in the land of the free...
Your right to choose for yourself is absolutely protected... but I'll be goddamned if they can't legislate everything around it until making anything but the "socially acceptable" choice is as expensive, painful, and inconvenient as humanly possible.

[marko138]

Tigger, you've never made more sense than you are in this thread. Do your thing, son.

[itgirl]

your right to smoke ends where my nose begins...

[derf]

Fuck you all.

I have always made somewhat of an effort to no blow smoke in peoples faces. 99% of the time I step away or walk downwind, and for a while that was okay, then folks started to complain that even no being around it will affect you

[Rider]

Hey AMJ,

I really don't give a fuck if you smoke. I smoked for a couple of years and I get it. Both my parents smoke so I was around it my entire childhood. I now choose not to smoke and I'd appreciate it if you don't make me inhale a known carcinogen. Smoke all you want, I'm not saying you can't, just respect my wishes and don't make me breath your smoke or make my clothes smell like smoke.

[wildchild]

Whenever someone comes up to me with a cigarette in one hand and a beer in the other saying how they wish they could afford a bike, I tell them that the payment is already in their hands.

that is so true. i had a neighbor say just that while doing just that, he was talking about my kids dirtbike that his kid was looking at like a kid in a candy store. "wish I could afford a bike like that for my kid" I did tell him to quit his two favorite habits and he would be able to. that didn't seem to be an idea he was in favor of.

[tommymac]

I was glad they did away with smoking in bars. Just commin ghome and not having all your clothes wreak of smoke was a win for me ;)

[askmrjesus]

When you can show me how my not smoking adversely affects your health, well being and happiness....

That's an easy one. I'd be much happier if you weren't such a self important drama queen.

I'm 100% for personal liberties that DON'T affect me. You can do whatever you want as long as I don't have to hear it, see it, smell it, etc...

Sorry princess, it's not my job to spin your bed around at night, so the stars can revolve around you.


BTW what happened to all of our eco-warriors? Do you know how long it takes for a cigarette butt to break down?

Yes, about the same amount of time it takes to break down a disposable diaper. You want to save the world, go kill a baby.

Do you know how much nicotine (a poison) and other chemicals are introduced into the soil and groundwater from butts?

No, and neither do you. I would guess that it's far less than the amount of poisons created by all the electronic gizmos you throw away over the course of a year, so WTF is your point?

Do you realize that the same chemicals are released into the air from smoking that are released from cars?

I know! How cool is that? If only they made nicotine powered cars that would fit in a shirt pocket...

You don't call that pollution?:idk:

No, I call it happy hour.


Oh and you love to call my intelligence into question, how incredibly stupid do you have to be to use something that gives ZERO benefits and that you know will eventually bring you to a horrible and pain full death? Now that's a "dim bulb"!

What? No benefits? I like it, that's a benefit. You hate it. That's another benefit.

No, no, no that's not good enough! They are like gays, and other fringe groups, it's not good enough to be able to do something, the rest of us must accept it. We must have it in our faces, we must experience it with them.... I don't know, go ahead and kill your selves but if it were up to me, you wouldn't get state sponsored health care, right along with the obese, homosexuals, drug addicts, etc.

I really don't give a shit if you accept it or not. I don't even like you, so what do I care? As smokers go, I'm very polite about it. I go out of my way to keep my little habit to myself, but no, that's not good enough for you lung-O-nistas. You won't be happy until everyone is just like you.

Well tough shit cupcake. If you see me walking down the sidewalk smoking, feel free to haul your lily ass to the other side of the street.

JC

[marko138]

That's an easy one. I'd be much happier if you weren't such a self important drama queen.



Sorry princess, it's not my job to spin your bed around at night, so the stars can revolve around you.




Yes, about the same amount of time it takes to break down a disposable diaper. You want to save the world, go kill a baby.



No, and neither do you. I would guess that it's far less than the amount of poisons created by all the electronic gizmos you throw away over the course of a year, so WTF is your point?



I know! How cool is that? If only they made nicotine powered cars that would fit in a shirt pocket...



No, I call it happy hour.




What? No benefits? I like it, that's a benefit. You hate it. That's another benefit.



I really don't give a shit if you accept it or not. I don't even like you, so what do I care? As smokers go, I'm very polite about it. I go out of my way to keep my little habit to myself, but no, that's not good enough for you lung-O-nistas. You won't be happy until everyone is just like you.

Well tough shit cupcake. If you see me walking down the sidewalk smoking, feel free to haul your lily ass to the other side of the street.

JC
Did not read.

[askmrjesus]

Did not read.

Do not care.

JC

[goof2]

What? No benefits? I like it, that's a benefit. You hate it. That's another benefit.

JC

:lol

The propaganda about smoking really seems to have set in with a lot of people here. The funny thing is much of that propaganda is paid for by the cigarette companies themselves. I'm amazed that so many of you are able to function on a daily basis without ever having anything intrude upon your personal existence. If you go out in public you can expect to have to deal with, you guessed it, the public. This includes occasionally having brief encounters with things you may not want to smell, hear, or see.

[Kaneman]

:lol

The propaganda about smoking really seems to have set in with a lot of people here.

Well if Americans have proven anything in the past 200+ years its that they are complete suckers for some good propaganda.

[goof2]

Well if Americans have proven anything in the past 200+ years its that they are complete suckers for some good propaganda.

True, and to be fair that tendency worked in favor of the cigarette companies for quite a while. It has swung back so hard the other direction that now people appear to believe that even thinking about having a cigarette will give them melanoma while actually smoking one will riddle their body with cancer before they can put it out.

[Kaneman]

True, and to be fair that tendency worked in favor of the cigarette companies for quite a while. It has swung back so hard the other direction that now people appear to believe that even thinking about having a cigarette will give them melanoma while actually smoking one will riddle their body with cancer before they can put it out.

Actually, that's pretty much exactly what they taught my son in "P.E." about cigarettes and marijuana. They are poisonous and they will kill you if you use them.

[azoomm]

True, and to be fair that tendency worked in favor of the cigarette companies for quite a while. It has swung back so hard the other direction that now people appear to believe that even thinking about having a cigarette will give them melanoma while actually smoking one will riddle their body with cancer before they can put it out.

Right, hence the action by the team to get signatures. OMG NOZ!! CANCER!?!! I HAS TO STOP CANCER!!

I don't like cigarette smoke. I used to smoke, and the smell gets to me. That means, I will frequent places that don't have it. It's quite simple, really.

But then, I'm not for regulation on anything. It's made us a society that can't make choices because they are all made for us.

[Kaneman]

But then, I'm not for regulation on anything. It's made us a society that can't make choices because they are all made for us.

And its so easy to see why. People will regularly and openly admit that they're all for true freedom....as long as its a freedom they agree with based on their own personal history.

[azoomm]

And its so easy to see why. People will regularly and openly admit that they're all for true freedom....as long as its a freedom they agree with based on their own personal history.

Pffffffft

Oh wait.

MY freedoms are important!! I get it.

[Kaneman]

With the end result of that mentality, ironically being, that none of us are free partially because of it.

[marko138]

With the end result of that mentality, ironically being, that none of us are free partially because of it.
We lost our freedom long before they started banning smoking, chief.

[Kaneman]

We lost our freedom long before they started banning smoking, chief.

So because we began losing freedoms long ago we should just continue down the same road, ace?

[goof2]

We lost our freedom long before they started banning smoking, chief.

True freedom is a nice concept in the abstract but it is impossible to implement. There are too many things one person desires to be free to do that impinge upon the freedoms of others. True freedom for all cannot exist in a functioning society.

[marko138]

So because we began losing freedoms long ago we should just continue down the same road, ace?
Good luck turning things around.

[Kaneman]

Good luck turning things around.

Small changes for the better can be seen here and there, though they're usually overshadowed by larger changes in the wrong direction. But it is apathetic attitudes, like the one you are displaying here, that really prevent forward steps or progression.

[marko138]

Small changes for the better can be seen here and there, though they're usually overshadowed by larger changes in the wrong direction. But it is apathetic attitudes, like the one you are displaying here, that really prevent forward steps or progression.
Ok.

[azoomm]

True freedom is a nice concept in the abstract but it is impossible to implement. There are too many things one person desires to be free to do that impinge upon the freedoms of others. True freedom for all cannot exist in a functioning society without common sense.

Fixed it for you.

[VatorMan]

True freedom is a nice concept in the abstract but it is impossible to implement. There are too many things one person desires to be free to do that impinge upon the freedoms of others. True freedom for all cannot exist in a functioning society.

True freedom disappeared the second 2 cavemen got together and formed a clan. (Bible people and AMJ-refer to Adam and Eve, Adam lost true freedom the minute Eve opened her yap)
The thought of no rules scares the heck out of any sane person.

[goof2]

Fixed it for you.

There is nothing to fix. True freedom is an illusion as demonstrated by this thread. If I am free to smoke as I wish it means the rest of the public is loosing the freedom to be free from that smoke. If, on the other hand, regulations are put in place to make the public free from my smoke it comes at the expense of my freedom to smoke.

There is no common sense involved in the concept of true freedom. It is black and white. Complaining about when this country started to "loose its freedom" makes the incorrect assumption that it was ever truly free and harks back to a time that never actually existed.

[tommymac]

Damn all this and I was just stating how I thought it was funny how the smokers had to scramble here to find a place to get their fix :lol:

[Kaneman]

There is nothing to fix. True freedom is an illusion as demonstrated by this thread. If I am free to smoke as I wish it means the rest of the public is loosing the freedom to be free from that smoke. If, on the other hand, regulations are put in place to make the public free from my smoke it comes at the expense of my freedom to smoke.

There is no common sense involved in the concept of true freedom. It is black and white. Complaining about when this country started to "loose its freedom" makes the incorrect assumption that it was ever truly free and harks back to a time that never actually existed.

But your concept is flawed because the public IS free from your smoke, they just have to go around it. And nobody here is even advocating for the right to smoke wherever "I damn well please!" No, we're arguing for a common-sense compromise.

[Trip]

The propaganda about smoking really seems to have set in with a lot of people here. The funny thing is much of that propaganda is paid for by the cigarette companies themselves. I'm amazed that so many of you are able to function on a daily basis without ever having anything intrude upon your personal existence. If you go out in public you can expect to have to deal with, you guessed it, the public. This includes occasionally having brief encounters with things you may not want to smell, hear, or see.

I have never said anything about cancer, my problem with it is it's disgusting. It is disgusting, that's not propaganda.

There are certain places where I expect it and I choose not go there if I don't want to be around. Work is not one of those places. I do not work in a place where it isn't expected or encouraged. If you can't man up and do your work without needing a smoke, you are a sissy. That's not my problem. It isn't professional to have to skip out on work every hour for an addiction or make the entire office suffer for it.

Bars are one place it is expected, that's part of a bar. Outlawing it there is stupid and you are driving them other places where they don't need to be to smoke up.

Restaurants, no, hold your fucking dirty habit til after you finish your meal and go ruin the interior of your car.

[Kaneman]

I have never said anything about cancer, my problem with it is it's disgusting. It is disgusting, that's not propaganda.

There are certain places where I expect it and I choose not go there if I don't want to be around. Work is not one of those places. I do not work in a place where it is expected or should be encouraged. If you can't man up and do your work without needing a smoke, you are a sissy. That's not my problem. It isn't professional to have to skip out on work every hour for an addiction or make the entire office suffer for it.

Bars are one place it is expected, that's part of a bar. Outlawing it there is stupid and you are driving them other places where they don't need to be to smoke up.

Restaurants, no, hold your fucking dirty habit til after you finish your meal and go ruin the interior of your car.


All very valid points. It IS disgusting, it smells horrible and can be very offensive.

And you should never be forced to eat somewhere that stinks, or work somewhere that stinks, etc. etc. That's why YOU have freedom of choice as well.

[azoomm]

I have never said anything about cancer, my problem with it is it's disgusting. It is disgusting, that's not propaganda.

There are certain places where I expect it and I choose not go there if I don't want to be around. Work is not one of those places. I do not work in a place where it isn't expected or encouraged. If you can't man up and do your work without needing a smoke, you are a sissy. That's not my problem. It isn't professional to have to skip out on work every hour for an addiction or make the entire office suffer for it.

Bars are one place it is expected, that's part of a bar. Outlawing it there is stupid and you are driving them other places where they don't need to be to smoke up.

Restaurants, no, hold your fucking dirty habit til after you finish your meal and go ruin the interior of your car.

What happens when someone decides that dirty gingers are disgusting. Or, that motorcycles are a danger to the world around them? Or, come on... you have more sense than all this.

You have a choice. Use your power of choice rather than just trying to take someone else's freedoms away by imposing your choice.

[VatorMan]

What happens when someone decides that dirty gingers are disgusting. Or, that motorcycles are a danger to the world around them? Or, come on... you have more sense than all this.

You have a choice. Use your power of choice rather than just trying to take someone else's freedoms away by imposing your choice.

Dirty gingers ARE disgusting. However, as long as two people cannot agree, there will be rules. And rules are a guarantee to piss one of the two people off.

[Trip]

And you should never be forced to eat somewhere that stinks, or work somewhere that stinks, etc. etc. That's why YOU have freedom of choice as well.

You don't really have that choice prior to enacting legislation, most places offered smoking sections to make that extra profit and they didn't have good ventilation and the smokers ruinied the joint. You pretty much couldn't go to these places. Office buildings that allowed smoking were utterly disgusting. If companies want to create sections of buildings or seating areas that provide proper ventilation for you guys, that's great. If they don't, I am sorry I will support every move to ban you guys from everything.

[Rider]

What happens when someone decides that dirty gingers are disgusting. Or, that motorcycles are a danger to the world around them? Or, come on... you have more sense than all this.

You have a choice. Use your power of choice rather than just trying to take someone else's freedoms away by imposing your choice.

That's already been decided.


Fucking little kids is disgusting but you want to allow people to do that so that they can still have their freedoms?

[Trip]

You have a choice. Use your power of choice rather than just trying to take someone else's freedoms away by imposing your choice.

What choice, I am really opposed to it, so I have no choice. I can only not go. That's not a fucking choice. You guys have a choice to smoke prior to, take a break, or after you leave.

[Kaneman]

What choice, I am really opposed to it, so I have no choice. I can only not go. That's not a fucking choice. You guys have a choice to smoke prior to, take a break, or after you leave.

You choose with your money, you spend at places that are smoke free or that have proper ventilation. Very simple. Even before regulations started going in place there were plenty of smoke-free restaurants, I know because those are the ones my parents always took us to.

[Trip]

You choose with your money, you spend at places that are smoke free or that have proper ventilation. Very simple. Even before regulations started going in place there were plenty of smoke-free restaurants, I know because those are the ones my parents always took us to.

Not around here, besides NC, this is tobacco central. There wasn't any smoke free restaurants that I can recall before the law banning them from restaurants came into effect. It's much nicer now.

Your solution still leaves me with one choice, don't go. I dislike it too much to try and put up with it, so I don't have a choice, I have one option.

[Kaneman]

Not around here, besides NC, this is tobacco central. There wasn't any smoke free restaurants that I can recall before the law banning them from restaurants came into effect. It's much nicer now.

Your solution still leaves me with one choice, don't go.

Its nicer to you, which is the point I'm making.

[Trip]

Its nicer to you, which is the point I'm making.

Well you guys went from having the world to having designated areas. I can see why you are mad, but the rest of us got tired of putting up with that shit everywhere.

[Kaneman]

Well you guys went from having the world to having designated areas. I can see why you are mad, but the rest of us got tired of putting up with that shit everywhere.

I don't smoke, so it doesn't affect me. Even when I did smoke I never did it in places where other people would be affected by it. Its a personal choice I made because I'm not a cocksucker. Many other people are cocksuckers, and I realize that.

Ultimately though, what citizens are doing by supporting total bans on smoking is allowing the Government more power through regulation to come in and affect someone's everyday life. Yes, you shouldn't have to sit in a smoke filled office...I'm not opposed to your right to be nicotine/second-hand smoke free. However, these total bans do not allow private business owners the freedom to choose how they want to run their own business.

If I want to open up Kaneman's Motherfucking Hookah and Porno Bar then that's my business and don't come in there if you don't want to hit a giant hookah and watch some 20 year old takin' it in the back. Or a restaurant, or a bar, or anything else privately owned.

[marko138]

Well you guys went from having the world to having designated areas. I can see why you are mad, but the rest of us got tired of putting up with that shit everywhere.
I like you today.

[tommymac]

I like you today.

its the kinder gentler marko :lol: I guess you still hate me today

[marko138]

its the kinder gentler marko :lol: I guess you still hate me today
Keep up your shit and might.

[goof2]

But your concept is flawed because the public IS free from your smoke, they just have to go around it. And nobody here is even advocating for the right to smoke wherever "I damn well please!" No, we're arguing for a common-sense compromise.

"Loss of freedom, loss of freedom!!!" say the people who hold up the concept of absolute freedom drafted by men who owned other people as property and saw no need for women to enjoy freedom or rights.:lol

[goof2]

I have never said anything about cancer, my problem with it is it's disgusting. It is disgusting, that's not propaganda.

There are certain places where I expect it and I choose not go there if I don't want to be around. Work is not one of those places. I do not work in a place where it isn't expected or encouraged. If you can't man up and do your work without needing a smoke, you are a sissy. That's not my problem. It isn't professional to have to skip out on work every hour for an addiction or make the entire office suffer for it.

Bars are one place it is expected, that's part of a bar. Outlawing it there is stupid and you are driving them other places where they don't need to be to smoke up.

Restaurants, no, hold your fucking dirty habit til after you finish your meal and go ruin the interior of your car.

I was generalizing. I hope you realize your view of smoking at work is a generalization as well. When I have worked in an office environment I only smoked during the allowed break times and lunch.

[Kaneman]

"Loss of freedom, loss of freedom!!!" say the people who hold up the concept of absolute freedom drafted by men who owned other people as property and saw no need for women to enjoy freedom or rights.:lol

But upheld by men who felt freedom for all was important enough to sacrifice more blood than was spilled in all other American wars combined.

[goof2]

Well you guys went from having the world to having designated areas. I can see why you are mad, but the rest of us got tired of putting up with that shit everywhere.

Here smoking is banned in all restaurants and pretty much any bar that serves food. It was put on the ballot and a majority voted for it. It doesn't bother me at all. I don't mind giving up indoor areas to nonsmokers, especially when it is done through a vote rather than by fiat (like NYC).

What I do ask is when you come across me standing outside those establishments as far away from the door as possible and trying to avoid blowing smoke on or around people please don't bitch and moan about how I should be restricted to some magical place where my disgusting activity will never in any way affect anyone else.

[goof2]

But upheld by men who felt freedom for all was important enough to sacrifice more blood than was spilled in all other American wars combined.

To be fair that war was more about freedom for all, as long as you aren't toting around a vag.:shrug:

[Kaneman]

To be fair that war was more about freedom for all, as long as you aren't toting around a vag.:shrug:

And society progressed. Due to the industrialization that was enacted during and following the Civil War women were able to have a voice to begin their own crusade for equal rights.

Progression. Its NOT the devil.

[azoomm]

I don't smoke.

I don't like smoke.

[Cruzergirl]

I don't smoke.

I don't like smoke.

Me neither.

Hell, I don't even like being in a car behind someone who is smoking. And don't get me started about the jackasses that throw their butts out the window so that I have to practice my avoidance techniques!


And hey, shouldn't you be studying or something?! :backingout: :)

[goof2]

And society progressed. Due to the industrialization that was enacted during and following the Civil War women were able to have a voice to begin their own crusade for equal rights.

Progression. Its NOT the devil.

I agree. Some hold a view that absolute freedom existed at some time in our country's history and what we are doing today takes away from that. That time never existed. My point is essentially the same one you made 3 hours ago. Sometimes when one person's "freedom" is taken away it is a consequence of creating more "freedom" for another person. Conversely, when one person is celebrating some additional "freedom" they now enjoy, it is without thought to any restrictions of the "freedom" of another that may result.

[Amber Lamps]

:lol

The propaganda about smoking really seems to have set in with a lot of people here. The funny thing is much of that propaganda is paid for by the cigarette companies themselves. I'm amazed that so many of you are able to function on a daily basis without ever having anything intrude upon your personal existence. If you go out in public you can expect to have to deal with, you guessed it, the public. This includes occasionally having brief encounters with things you may not want to smell, hear, or see.

"propaganda"? Father-smoked, throat and lung cancer, Grandfather-smoked, lung cancer, 3 uncles smoked- cancer, cancer and cancer. Sister-smoked, lung cancer, brother- smoked- throat then lung cancer. It is not propaganda that smoking causes cancer, are you seriously that delusional?
omg some of you believe in man made global warming but you don't believe that smoking causes cancer, really?:idk:

Dealing with the public means that I have to put up with anything you decide to produce? Heck, maybe I'll blow off some chlorine gas every few minutes because I like it...deal with it. Maybe I'll shoot pepper spray into your face every once in a while... deal with it.

[Amber Lamps]

Actually, that's pretty much exactly what they taught my son in "P.E." about cigarettes and marijuana. They are poisonous and they will kill you if you use them.

and that's not true? Do you want your son to be a drug addict? Pot heads and smokers are in reality drug addicts, right?:idk:

[Amber Lamps]

That's an easy one. I'd be much happier if you weren't such a self important drama queen.



Sorry princess, it's not my job to spin your bed around at night, so the stars can revolve around you.




Yes, about the same amount of time it takes to break down a disposable diaper. You want to save the world, go kill a baby.



No, and neither do you. I would guess that it's far less than the amount of poisons created by all the electronic gizmos you throw away over the course of a year, so WTF is your point?



I know! How cool is that? If only they made nicotine powered cars that would fit in a shirt pocket...



No, I call it happy hour.




What? No benefits? I like it, that's a benefit. You hate it. That's another benefit.



I really don't give a shit if you accept it or not. I don't even like you, so what do I care? As smokers go, I'm very polite about it. I go out of my way to keep my little habit to myself, but no, that's not good enough for you lung-O-nistas. You won't be happy until everyone is just like you.

Well tough shit cupcake. If you see me walking down the sidewalk smoking, feel free to haul your lily ass to the other side of the street.

JC

Admit it, you're too weak and pathetic to break the habit. All smokers say the same weak crap, "I like smoking"...whatever. You are a drug addict. Pure and simple, all the bull crap and posturing in the world won't change that fact. You are committing suicide in slow motion. Have fun hacking up what's left of your lungs...:panic:

[Amber Lamps]

Damn all this and I was just stating how I thought it was funny how the smokers had to scramble here to find a place to get their fix :lol:

"fix" a very correct and astute use of the word.

[Amber Lamps]

But upheld by men who felt freedom for all was important enough to sacrifice more blood than was spilled in all other American wars combined.

Nope, more American lives were lost in the Civil War than all others combined.

[goof2]

"propaganda"? Father-smoked, throat and lung cancer, Grandfather-smoked, lung cancer, 3 uncles smoked- cancer, cancer and cancer. Sister-smoked, lung cancer, brother- smoked- throat then lung cancer. It is not propaganda that smoking causes cancer, are you seriously that delusional?
omg some of you believe in man made global warming but you don't believe that smoking causes cancer, really?:idk:

Dealing with the public means that I have to put up with anything you decide to produce? Heck, maybe I'll blow off some chlorine gas every few minutes because I like it...deal with it. Maybe I'll shoot pepper spray into your face every once in a while... deal with it.

All 4 grandparents smoked heavily for over 40 years. 1 died at 89, 2 died in their 90s, one is healthy and will be having her 90th birthday party this summer. 3 never got or still haven't gotten cancer. One had it, was treated, recovered, and died from something else. I'm sorry you had to deal with all that cancer in your family and I'm sure smoking played a role, but even for smokers that is outside the norm.

The propaganda isn't that the risk of cancer, heart disease, emphysema, or dying at a young age increases by smoking. I'm sure there are people out there who dispute that but I'm not one of them. The propaganda isn't that smokers increase their risk of these things, the propaganda is that they WILL develop these things due to smoking.

[goof2]

Nope, more American lives were lost in the Civil War than all others combined.

I'm pretty sure the Civil War is the war he was referring to.

[Amber Lamps]

All 4 grandparents smoked heavily for over 40 years. 1 died at 89, 2 died in their 90s, one is healthy and will be having her 90th birthday party this summer. 3 never got or still haven't gotten cancer. One had it, was treated, recovered, and died from something else. I'm sorry you had to deal with all that cancer in your family and I'm sure smoking played a role, but even for smokers that is outside the norm.

The propaganda isn't that the risk of cancer, heart disease, emphysema, or dying at a young age increases by smoking. I'm sure there are people out there who dispute that but I'm not one of them. The propaganda isn't that smokers increase their risk of these things, the propaganda is that they WILL develop these things due to smoking.

Okay so you can point to a few people who are "resistant" and ignore the millions that prove that smoking causes cancer? My family is the norm in this case, your family is the exception. IMHO of course. We don't have to speculate or listen to "propaganda", Take 100 lung cancer patients and ask them if they smoke...what do you think the outcome will be?

[Amber Lamps]

I'm pretty sure the Civil War is the war he was referring to.

Oh I thought that he was referring to the Revolutionary War considering the "country establishment" talk... The country was almost 100 years old during the Civil War.:idk:

[goof2]

Okay so you can point to a few people who are "resistant" and ignore the millions that prove that smoking causes cancer? My family is the norm in this case, your family is the exception. IMHO of course. We don't have to speculate or listen to "propaganda", Take 100 lung cancer patients and ask them if they smoke...what do you think the outcome will be?

All doing what you are suggesting proves is smoking increases a person's risk of getting lung cancer, something I already agreed with. What you are looking for is the chance of a smoker developing lung cancer over the course of their life. According to a study done in Canada in the late 80s around 17% of male smokers develop lung cancer and around 11% of female smokers develop lung cancer. I didn't post my family's history to demonstrate the norm. Their history is abnormal, but so is your family's.

Oh I thought that he was referring to the Revolutionary War considering the "country establishment" talk... The country was almost 100 years old during the Civil War.:idk:

I was the one referring to the founding fathers and put it in context by saying they believed it was OK to own people as property. Kaneman's statement "But upheld by men" indicating to me it was a different group of men, not the ones who established our freedom, and the "who felt freedom for all" tells me he was referring to the Civil War as the founders didn't care about "all" (but as I said, neither did the Civil War guys if the all was the half with girl parts)

[upshift]

That's an easy one. I'd be much happier if you weren't such a self important drama queen.

Since when have personality traits been a health hazard? :skep:

[tommymac]

Okay so you can point to a few people who are "resistant" and ignore the millions that prove that smoking causes cancer? My family is the norm in this case, your family is the exception. IMHO of course. We don't have to speculate or listen to "propaganda", Take 100 lung cancer patients and ask them if they smoke...what do you think the outcome will be?

Not to mention a lot of the other problems smoking is linked to.

Another factoid is nicotine is the most addicitve "drug" currently known and is actualy worse than heroin.

[Amber Lamps]

All doing what you are suggesting proves is smoking increases a person's risk of getting lung cancer, something I already agreed with. What you are looking for is the chance of a smoker developing lung cancer over the course of their life. According to a study done in Canada in the late 80s around 17% of male smokers develop lung cancer and around 11% of female smokers develop lung cancer. I didn't post my family's history to demonstrate the norm. Their history is abnormal, but so is your family's.



I was the one referring to the founding fathers and put it in context by saying they believed it was OK to own people as property. Kaneman's statement "But upheld by men" indicating to me it was a different group of men, not the ones who established our freedom, and the "who felt freedom for all" tells me he was referring to the Civil War as the founders didn't care about "all" (but as I said, neither did the Civil War guys if the all was the half with girl parts)

this country was founded on inequality, on that we can agree.

You have a right to property, unless you are an American Indian

You have a right to freedom, unless you are black

You have the right to vote, unless you are a woman

etc

[Amber Lamps]

Not to mention a lot of the other problems smoking is linked to.

Another factoid is nicotine is the most addicitve "drug" currently known and is actualy worse than heroin.

Hence smokers=drug addicts. Next, crack addicts will be lobbying to be allowed to smoke crack in bars. Excuse us for not being dope fiends. Please pardon us for not being more understanding and allowing you to practice your disgusting/filthy addiction in our presence...

[askmrjesus]

Admit it, you're too weak and pathetic to break the habit. All smokers say the same weak crap, "I like smoking"...whatever. You are a drug addict. Pure and simple, all the bull crap and posturing in the world won't change that fact. You are committing suicide in slow motion. Have fun hacking up what's left of your lungs...:panic:

Yes, I can admit that. I'm a drug addict. The question is, what business is that of yours? Did I ask for your fucking opinion? No, and yet here you are...

Okay so you can point to a few people who are "resistant" and ignore the millions that prove that smoking causes cancer? My family is the norm in this case, your family is the exception. IMHO of course. We don't have to speculate or listen to "propaganda", Take 100 lung cancer patients and ask them if they smoke...what do you think the outcome will be?

If I recall correctly, you just got over throat cancer yourself. I'm sorry that your family has the genes of sickly albino hamsters, but it sounds to me like they were going to get cancer anyway. I've already had it. I won. I'm the Chuck Fucking Norris of health problems. I don't worry about cancer, cancer worries about me.

At the end of the day, smoking is just like anything else. You pay your money, and you take your chances. As much as I hate to quote the Greatfull Dead, "I may be going to hell in a bucket baby, but at least I'm enjoying the ride."

Since when have personality traits been a health hazard? :skep:

Think about it. :lol:

Hence smokers=drug addicts. Next, crack addicts will be lobbying to be allowed to smoke crack in bars. Excuse us for not being dope fiends. Please pardon us for not being more understanding and allowing you to practice your disgusting/filthy addiction in our presence...

Again, who the fuck asked you to be understanding? You don't have the right to not "allow" me to do anything. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your "presence", and stick it up your ass, (providing there's still some room in there, next to your head).

JC

[upshift]

Think about it. :lol:

Well maybe if you let it bother you that much to affect your health then yeah, but if you let it affect you that much, well, you need to check your priorities.

[HokieDNA01]

almost all my friends smoke and I have no problem with it. What I do have a problem with is them throwing their butts on my driveway, yard, landscaping like they will just desolve in a few hours/days. I HATE picking that shit up.

[goof2]

almost all my friends smoke and I have no problem with it. What I do have a problem with is them throwing their butts on my driveway, yard, landscaping like they will just desolve in a few hours/days. I HATE picking that shit up.

That is why I "field strip" my butts (knock the cherry off and roll up the end to make sure it is out) and throw them in an outside trashcan or my pocket.

[Rider]

That is why I "field strip" my butts (knock the cherry off and roll up the end to make sure it is out) and throw them in an outside trashcan or my pocket.

Most don't though. Most just flick the butts out the window of their car because they don't want to be bothered to empty the ash tray in their car. :wtfru:

[HokieDNA01]

That is why I "field strip" my butts (knock the cherry off and roll up the end to make sure it is out) and throw them in an outside trashcan or my pocket.

Well you are a rarity. Most smokers I see just throw them on the ground.

[goof2]

Most don't though. Most just flick the butts out the window of their car because they don't want to be bothered to empty the ash tray in their car. :wtfru:

Don't get me wrong, I fire them out of the car window (after checking rearview for motorcycles first). There is a difference to me between putting them in an already littered median vs. dropping them in someone's lawn.

[Trip]

We need to make up a game like "punch buggy" where it's socially acceptable to kick a smoker in the balls when they litter their butts.

[Rider]

Don't get me wrong, I fire them out of the car window (after checking rearview for motorcycles first). There is a difference to me between putting them in an already littered median vs. dropping them in someone's lawn.

So because there are already butts there that makes it ok?

[Trip]

Looks like China has found a use for them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100513/sc_nm/us_butts

[caveman]

What pisses me off too is smokers can get away with taking 15 min breaks every hour or so, but a nonsmoker tries to pull off that shit and the whip gets cracked.

Thats why you take a non-smokers smoke break and roll out for a quick 5-10 min walk around the site. I know where you work, Trip, and there has to be lots of acreage you can just go walk around if you want to.

Caveman

[Trip]

Thats why you take a non-smokers smoke break and roll out for a quick 5-10 min walk around the site. I know where you work, Trip, and there has to be lots of acreage you can just go walk around if you want to.

Caveman

LOL, they gave us pagers, they find us

[Rider]

LOL, they gave us pagers, they find us

Put that battery in backwards. When the ask why you didn't respond say "oh shit, how did that happen? " :lol

[caveman]

LOL, they gave us pagers, they find us

leave that stupid thing on your desk so when the page you from your own phone they see it goin off right in their face as if to say, "Kiss my @$$!!!"

I usually just disappear deeper into the plant and hide for a while.

[Amber Lamps]

Yes, I can admit that. I'm a drug addict. The question is, what business is that of yours? Did I ask for your fucking opinion? No, and yet here you are...



If I recall correctly, you just got over throat cancer yourself. I'm sorry that your family has the genes of sickly albino hamsters, but it sounds to me like they were going to get cancer anyway. I've already had it. I won. I'm the Chuck Fucking Norris of health problems. I don't worry about cancer, cancer worries about me.

At the end of the day, smoking is just like anything else. You pay your money, and you take your chances. As much as I hate to quote the Greatfull Dead, "I may be going to hell in a bucket baby, but at least I'm enjoying the ride."



Think about it. :lol:



Again, who the fuck asked you to be understanding? You don't have the right to not "allow" me to do anything. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your "presence", and stick it up your ass, (providing there's still some room in there, next to your head).

JC

I have my head up my ass? Um I'm not the one whose had cancer and is still smoking. You must have to run a periscope out your belly button to see where you're going!

[goof2]

So because there are already butts there that makes it ok?

Works for me.

[was92v]

This thread has a lot of people in it that have a truly filthy, nasty, disgusting habit. It's called being an asshole. For some reason most of you guys seem to think it makes you seem smart, witty or intelligent, but in fact it just makes you an asshole. You guys are like some arrogant frat boy gaping sphincter. "Hey, let's act tough on the web. I can act like I'm a real man and fuck with people because they can't get to me." The reality is Oh yes they can.

""We need to make up a game like "punch buggy" where it's socially acceptable to kick a smoker in the balls when they litter their butts. ""

Real cute smart guy. Grow up.
This place is like a fucking daycare center.

[pauldun170]

This thread has a lot of people in it that have a truly filthy, nasty, disgusting habit. It's called being an asshole. For some reason most of you guys seem to think it makes you seem smart, witty or intelligent, but in fact it just makes you an asshole. You guys are like some arrogant frat boy gaping sphincter. "Hey, let's act tough on the web. I can act like I'm a real man and fuck with people because they can't get to me." The reality is Oh yes they can.

""We need to make up a game like "punch buggy" where it's socially acceptable to kick a smoker in the balls when they litter their butts. ""

Real cute smart guy. Grow up.
This place is like a fucking daycare center.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/36/Jessica_Biel_Butt_Jiggle_x50.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=4137)

[Amber Lamps]

This thread has a lot of people in it that have a truly filthy, nasty, disgusting habit. It's called being an asshole. For some reason most of you guys seem to think it makes you seem smart, witty or intelligent, but in fact it just makes you an asshole. You guys are like some arrogant frat boy gaping sphincter. "Hey, let's act tough on the web. I can act like I'm a real man and fuck with people because they can't get to me." The reality is Oh yes they can.

""We need to make up a game like "punch buggy" where it's socially acceptable to kick a smoker in the balls when they litter their butts. ""

Real cute smart guy. Grow up.
This place is like a fucking daycare center.

Whatever, I'm sure that he was kidding BUT there are anti-littering laws, maybe you should pay a fine every time you flick a butt out the window or drop one on the ground. Heck, sounds like a great way to get more money into city/state treasuries. I'm going to write a letter to my congressman tomorrow.

[tommymac]

Whatever, I'm sure that he was kidding BUT there are anti-littering laws, maybe you should pay a fine every time you flick a butt out the window or drop one on the ground. Heck, sounds like a great way to get more money into city/state treasuries. I'm going to write a letter to my congressman tomorrow.

problem is cops have to put effort into enforcing that. its easier sitting on the sid eof the road nailing speeders than to catch people tossing stuff out their window.

I wish they would because god knows how many time we have been hit by stuff tossed out the window of a car ahead of us.

[Amber Lamps]

problem is cops have to put effort into enforcing that. its easier sitting on the sid eof the road nailing speeders than to catch people tossing stuff out their window.

I wish they would because god knows how many time we have been hit by stuff tossed out the window of a car ahead of us.

this!

[anthonyk]

This thread has a lot of people in it that have a truly filthy, nasty, disgusting habit. It's called being an asshole. For some reason most of you guys seem to think it makes you seem smart, witty or intelligent, but in fact it just makes you an asshole. You guys are like some arrogant frat boy gaping sphincter. "Hey, let's act tough on the web. I can act like I'm a real man and fuck with people because they can't get to me." The reality is Oh yes they can.

""We need to make up a game like "punch buggy" where it's socially acceptable to kick a smoker in the balls when they litter their butts. ""

Real cute smart guy. Grow up.
This place is like a fucking daycare center.

:scratch:
I've been drinking (a lot), but I don't think that's the reason you're making no sense. :skep:

What the hell are you saying?

[marko138]

:lol:

[the chi]

I had a friend tell me the other day her brother got a blue garbage bag in the mail, along with a littering note from the state of Texas that stated something along the lines of "pick up your butts". I think he was fined with littering too.

[marko138]

Nice.

[tommymac]

Win