Interesting oopsie

[tommymac]

I wonder how this is going to play out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/05/18/2010-05-18_the_transplant_was_supposed_to_give_him_life_in stead_it_gave_him_terminal_cancer.html

[wildchild]

OMG! so he goes through painful surgery twice and still dies? Yeah I would be suing for that one.

Have to admit when I saw the title and your name under it I thought.

Oh shit we're all going to have be his alibi for something. Nah he was in wis that night. yeah yeah that's it. LOL

[tommymac]

I am curious to see exactly whos at fault. their lawyer plays it up like they took a kidney riddled with tumors and just threw it in his body.

Seems like the other hospital got off the hook when they didnt have to release the ladys medical records.

I am not sure its soley the surgeons fault on this, but I dont know what screening was done and how much they did ot ensure it was a healthy organ.

ur hospital does kidney transplants too so I am def going to ask around some when I see the transplant guys.

[HokieDNA01]

I dont know why they would tell him that he couldn't die of uterine cancer if they place cancerous uterine cells in his body. Those cells metastasize and can affect other organs which is why they were on a kidney to begin with. I'm not a doctor and I know that.

[tommymac]

I dont know why they would tell him that he couldn't die of uterine cancer if they place cancerous uterine cells in his body. Those cells metastasize and can affect other organs which is why they were on a kidney to begin with. I'm not a doctor and I know that.

Probably doesnt help being on the cyclosporins and stuff to shut down your immune system. I wonder if that helped speed up the process. Gotta do some research on uterine CA to see where it likes to go.

[goof2]

I dont know why they would tell him that he couldn't die of uterine cancer if they place cancerous uterine cells in his body. Those cells metastasize and can affect other organs which is why they were on a kidney to begin with. I'm not a doctor and I know that.

The way I read it they didn't tell him anything before putting the kidney in him. He and his wife only found out some time after the operation.

[tommymac]

The way I read it they didn't tell him anything before putting the kidney in him. He and his wife only found out some time after the operation.

I am wondering who knew what/how much at the time of the surgery. Did the surgeons have all the info on the donor patient, was some of it witheld or they just figured screw it lets oprerate anyway he doesnt have a uterus.

[Rider]

Note to self: Never accept a transplant from anyone. :tremble:

[sherri_chickie]

Wow!

How the heck did that one slip by? She died of Cancer for God's sake, how could you even donate an organ of someone who died of cancer? Someone seriously screwed up.

They are supposed to be very picky about whether they will use an organ or not based on tests are they not? I know when Shon died they did not use his lungs because of something that popped up on a test. ( think it had something to do with being on the ventilator too long?)

[tommymac]

Wow!

How the heck did that one slip by? She died of Cancer for God's sake, how could you even donate an organ of someone who died of cancer? Someone seriously screwed up.

They are supposed to be very picky about whether they will use an organ or not based on tests are they not? I know when Shon died they did not use his lungs because of something that popped up on a test. ( think it had something to do with being on the ventilator too long?)

You would think so, thats why I am curious as to where the true blame lies. When the lawsuits pop up they go after the places with the deepest pockets, not necessarily whos truly at fault.

From what the article said they dont harvest organs from cancer patients so its strange how this one slipped through.

[goof2]

I am wondering who knew what/how much at the time of the surgery. Did the surgeons have all the info on the donor patient, was some of it witheld or they just figured screw it lets oprerate anyway he doesnt have a uterus.

NYU attempted to sue St. Luke's Cornwall Hospital for not properly screening the kidney which makes me wonder if anyone at NYU was told about the donor kidney being cancerous. Statements in the article make it sound like St. Luke's records pertaining to the kidney aren't going to be released without their voluntary release from the estate of the donor or someone suing the estate of the donor for their release.

[cbrchick]

Crazy....

With no cause of death of the donor woman, perhaps she didn't die of cancer but had a uterine cancer at her death. Cancer might not have been her primary cause of death. But surgeons should recognize a diseased kidney unless there wasn't detectable, physical evidence of cancer.

But you gotta think they do blood tests for tumor markers or something before they harvest and donate a kidney. We pull off a tonne of blood when someone is going to be a donor. I can't remember what tests they do as the donor coordinator comes to over see everything to make sure nothing's screwed up with the prep.

Shame....

Kidney's usually do well it seems post transplant.

[tommymac]

There arent realy any good tumor markers for uterine cancer that I could find but I would think they would still check some of the others. I still think theres some sort of coverup here.

[Tsunami]

Didn't the article say that the kidney was covered in tumors when they transplanted it??

[tommymac]

Didn't the article say that the kidney was covered in tumors when they transplanted it??

Yeah the asshat lawyer said it was to grab headlines:td: the doctors found out 2 months later but apparently didnt reveal that info or did nothing about it.

[tommymac]

Now theyre saying they didnt know this lady had cancer untill after she died.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/05/19/2010-05-19_his_new_kidney_was_time_bomb_more_than_2_months _before_docs_knew_it_was_filled_w.html

[sherri_chickie]

That was interesting.. Makes sense too. Autopsies can take quite a while to be done and reports completed.

[tommymac]

NYU not held liable for the mans death.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/05/28/2010-05-28_jury_finds_nyu_not_liable_in_death_of_tranplant _patient_vincent_liew_donor_kidne.html

[Tsunami]

NYU not held liable for the mans death.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/05/28/2010-05-28_jury_finds_nyu_not_liable_in_death_of_tranplant _patient_vincent_liew_donor_kidne.html

That is such horseshit!

That poor woman should be compensated in some form for what happened.