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dReWpY
05-29-2010, 04:09 PM
stolen from another forum

"I hope these people rot in hell for what they've done, and warning, the video is pretty disturbing. Seeing people do this to defenseless animals makes me irrate.
http://www.cantonrep.com/newsnow/x289837620/Hidden-video-shows-Ohio-cows-beaten
CLEVELAND —
An animal welfare group said Tuesday that a graphic video it secretly recorded shows workers at a dairy farm beating cows with crowbars, stabbing them with pitchforks and punching them in their heads.

The video was recorded (WARNING: video is extremely disturbing. Discretion is advised.) in an undercover investigation at Conklin Dairy Farms Inc., said Mercy For Animals, a not-for-profit group that publicizes what it calls cruel practices in the dairy, meat and egg industries and promotes a vegan diet.

The video shows workers holding down newborn calves and stomping on their heads. It shows one worker wiring a cow’s nose to a metal bar near the ground and repeatedly beating it with another bar while it bleeds.

Conklin Dairy Farms, a fourth-generation family operation based in Plain City, said it takes the care of its cows and calves very seriously and had reviewed the video.

“The video shows animal care that is clearly inconsistent with the high standards we set for our farm and its workers, and we find the specific mistreatment shown on the video to be reprehensible and unacceptable,” Gary Conklin, of Conklin Dairy Cattle Sales LLC, said Tuesday night in an e-mailed statement. “We will not condone animal abuse on our farm.”

The company said it would interview its farm workers and anyone found to have willfully abused the cows or calves would be fired.

Last year, Mercy For Animals, which is based in Chicago, released a video showing workers at an Iowa egg hatchery tossing male chicks into a grinder. Industry groups said such instantaneous euthanasia was a common practice because male chicks can’t lay eggs or be raised quickly enough to be sold for meat.

Mercy For Animals’ executive director, Nathan Runkle, said the cow video was shot between April 28 and Sunday by an undercover worker at the dairy, about 25 miles northwest of Columbus. He said the documented abuse violates Ohio’s anti-animal cruelty statute.

The group presented the video and the evidence it collected to the prosecutor’s office in Marysville. The prosecutor’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment late Tuesday.

Video link.
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/"

Avatard
05-29-2010, 04:16 PM
Not gonna click the link. I don't know if I can stand one more "disturbing video".

I can't engage on this topic for a number of reasons.

1) Animal cruelty is always horrific
2) humans do even worse to each other, hard to get too bent about animals
3) I like milk, meat, and other agricultural products far too much

I hope they punish whoever these people were.

dReWpY
05-29-2010, 04:18 PM
i am all about eating meat and and shooting game when used for food and find hunting very enjoyable but torturing animals for no reason is bullshit

Avatard
05-29-2010, 04:22 PM
Absolutely. It's pure cowardice, abusing a helpless creature.

dReWpY
05-29-2010, 04:34 PM
ppl like this piss me off more then the ppl milking the system

Particle Man
05-29-2010, 05:17 PM
If you're trying to make a pun, it would be "udder"ly. :nee:

sick either way.

Kaneman
05-29-2010, 07:25 PM
That's why I buy all my milk from Braums.

Porkchop
05-29-2010, 08:51 PM
Plain City is like 30 minutes from me. That town should be fucking wiped off the face of this planet....

Amber Lamps
05-29-2010, 11:32 PM
Absolutely. It's pure cowardice, abusing a helpless creature.

Wow...

ppl like this piss me off more then the ppl milking the system

Wow X 2

If you're trying to make a pun, it would be "udder"ly. :nee:

sick either way.


Wow X 3

Amber Lamps
05-29-2010, 11:37 PM
Look, it sucks that people are this way and I don't condone this type of behavior BUT I'm here to tell you that this type of behavior is learned and it has been going on forever. Does that make it right? No, but I've seen it so many times. When people are put in charge of other life for a job, it always seems to get this way. Look at the cruelty cases in rest homes, prisons, day care centers, POW camps, mental institutions, schools, farms, animal shelters, etc... I guess we are just like that as a species....

Porkchop
05-30-2010, 02:20 AM
Look, it sucks that people are this way and I don't condone this type of behavior BUT I'm here to tell you that this type of behavior is learned and it has been going on forever. Does that make it right? No, but I've seen it so many times. When people are put in charge of other life for a job, it always seems to get this way. Look at the cruelty cases in rest homes, prisons, day care centers, POW camps, mental institutions, schools, farms, animal shelters, etc... I guess we are just like that as a species....

This. Very deep AL....

Dave
05-30-2010, 03:17 AM
Look, it sucks that people are this way and I don't condone this type of behavior BUT I'm here to tell you that this type of behavior is learned and it has been going on forever. Does that make it right? No, but I've seen it so many times. When people are put in charge of other life for a job, it always seems to get this way. Look at the cruelty cases in rest homes, prisons, day care centers, POW camps, mental institutions, schools, farms, animal shelters, etc... I guess we are just like that as a species....

now if the rest of the population could figure that out we might actually advance as a species.

NONE_too_SOFT
05-30-2010, 07:37 AM
last night i grilled lobster and i died a little inside when i had to drop the fucker in the pot to pre-cook him a little bit. i swear he was looking at me like "helllllppppppp".

He was delicious though.

pauldun170
05-30-2010, 11:21 AM
That's horrible.
I bet the sex is good.

Dave
05-30-2010, 01:12 PM
last night i grilled lobster and i died a little inside when i had to drop the fucker in the pot to pre-cook him a little bit. i swear he was looking at me like "helllllppppppp".

He was delicious though.

Its a bug. I don't know how you can feel compassion for something with fifty legs

NONE_too_SOFT
05-30-2010, 01:21 PM
Its a bug. I don't know how you can feel compassion for something with fifty legs

Whats wrong with bugs? they're just like you and me.

well more like you, than me.

Switch
05-30-2010, 01:33 PM
That's fucked up. I watched the video, well, parts, I couldn't watch the whole thing.

Someone should just go beat the shit out of the people in the video I mean, within an inch of their life.

NONE_too_SOFT
05-30-2010, 01:39 PM
That's fucked up. I watched the video, well, parts, I couldn't watch the whole thing.

Someone should just go beat the shit out of the people in the video I mean, within an inch of their life.

isnt that exactly what they WANT you to do? dont fight violence with violence... these men need hugs.

Avatard
05-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Its a bug. I don't know how you can feel compassion for something with fifty legs

Fuck that...it's a bug, with a bunch of legs and fucking antennae, and it lives literally eating crap off the bottom...fuck compassion, why the fuck are you eating that?

http://poopnugget.com/files/puke.gif

'73 H1 Triple
05-30-2010, 02:35 PM
I didn't watch the video but I can guarentee that is NOT standard practice on any farm.

I grew up on a farm and you do everything you can to keep all your animals calm. Stress greatly reduces milk output in cows and there is no way you kill an animal that is all stressed out. They don't taste as good due to adrenalin and other chemicals released in the bloodstream during stress.

Find the cowards ( no pun intended) and tie their ankles with rope about 12" apart. Then put them in a field with a pissed off 2000 lb + bull.

Karma's a bitch

Amber Lamps
05-30-2010, 03:00 PM
I didn't watch the video but I can guarentee that is NOT standard practice on any farm.

I grew up on a farm and you do everything you can to keep all your animals calm. Stress greatly reduces milk output in cows and there is no way you kill an animal that is all stressed out. They don't taste as good due to adrenalin and other chemicals released in the bloodstream during stress.

Find the cowards ( no pun intended) and tie their ankles with rope about 12" apart. Then put them in a field with a pissed off 2000 lb + bull.

Karma's a bitch

I didn't say that it's normal on EVERY farm but did you grow up on a dairy factory? That's what these are. I've been to these places in my old work and I've seen this behavior first hand. Again, I'm not talking a "Charlotte's Web" type family farm... I've been to these places where they tie down the calf's legs to stop them from moving around and keep them tender. The cow's never leave a stall, the chickens are in small cages, the turkeys packed in pens, etc... :idk:

itgirl
05-30-2010, 04:50 PM
can't watch the video. what i don't know won't hurt me. if i had to look the animals i eat in the face before i snacked on them i guarantee i'd be a vegetarian.

Kaneman
05-30-2010, 05:03 PM
I didn't say that it's normal on EVERY farm but did you grow up on a dairy factory? That's what these are. I've been to these places in my old work and I've seen this behavior first hand. Again, I'm not talking a "Charlotte's Web" type family farm... I've been to these places where they tie down the calf's legs to stop them from moving around and keep them tender. The cow's never leave a stall, the chickens are in small cages, the turkeys packed in pens, etc... :idk:

As stated, for a dairy farm, mistreating the cattle is extremely non-productive.

'73 H1 Triple
05-30-2010, 05:07 PM
I didn't say that it's normal on EVERY farm but did you grow up on a dairy factory? That's what these are. I've been to these places in my old work and I've seen this behavior first hand. Again, I'm not talking a "Charlotte's Web" type family farm... I've been to these places where they tie down the calf's legs to stop them from moving around and keep them tender. The cow's never leave a stall, the chickens are in small cages, the turkeys packed in pens, etc... :idk:

No, not a dairy factory but a dairy farm. Probably about 60 head of milking cows. You'd get yelled at for making the cows run into the barn :lol: ( lightning storms were the only exception ).

Calf pens were small but they were never tied down.

Kaneman
05-30-2010, 05:16 PM
can't watch the video. what i don't know won't hurt me. if i had to look the animals i eat in the face before i snacked on them i guarantee i'd be a vegetarian.

Or you could be aware of certain truths and act on them. In this case by doing your best to research where your food comes from and buy accordingly.

Nothing good ever came from having your head in the sand.

Amber Lamps
05-30-2010, 05:18 PM
As stated, for a dairy farm, mistreating the cattle is extremely non-productive.

So is tossing around product when you work at Best Buy but the workers there do it every week... So is mistreating the animals at a pet stote but people do it... so is mistreating patients at a hospital but nurses do it... so is surfing the net at work...
News flash employees don't always consider what is best for the company...

Homeslice
05-30-2010, 06:18 PM
Billy Joe :lol: :lol:

Billy Joe Gregg Jr., 25, of Delaware, Ohio, is being held in jail on $100,000 bond on 12 counts of cruelty to animals. If convicted, Gregg faces 90 days in jail and a fine of $750 on each misdemeanor count.

Gregg was identified in the Mercy For Animals video as the Conklin worker stomping calves' heads and beating tied-down cows with metal rods at a local dairy farm. He told a Marysville judge Thursday that he needed to be out of jail, so that he could care for his own animals and complete a degree in law enforcement (what a surprise :lol:) at Columbus State College.

Gregg told the judge at his Thursday arraignment that he is a wounded Iraq war veteran. On the video, Gregg is seen carting guns into the milk house, firing them on the farm and talking about stealing M-16 rifles from the U.S. Army while in Iraq.

Avatard
05-30-2010, 06:37 PM
That's not even funny. God forbid, this asshole becomes a cop.

Wow, just wow. :mad:

EpyonXero
05-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Rednecks hate animals.

Switch
05-30-2010, 11:09 PM
if i had to look the animals i eat in the face before i snacked on them i guarantee i'd be a vegetarian.

Meh, that wouldn't bother me for the fact that if I were doing the killing, I would do it as humanely and quickly as possible.

I've had to "put down" an animal before. It was a kitten that slept in the engine bay of my mom's car. When she started the car, the radiator fan mangled the cat, yet it was still alive.

The things going through my mind were only how to end its life as quickly as possible. I went inside and grabbed a pistol and shot it in the head. It sucked, it's not something you particularly want to do. I mean, you want to end its suffering, but you never actually imagine yourself shooting a domesticated animal.

That being the case, I was unprepared for the involuntary muscle spasms after I shot it.

So, my synopsis of the whole situation is, sometimes you have to do something that, without context, is terrible. But given the entirety of the situation, I felt it was the right thing to do.

All that is to say, these guys are just taking out their sick aggression on these animals who cannot defend themselves. It's disgusting brutality. If this guy ever becomes a cop, I have extreme pity on his jurisdiction.

Particle Man
05-31-2010, 07:55 AM
As stated, for a dairy farm, mistreating the cattle is extremely non-productive.

the big corporate ones couldn't care less. :(

this is the reason all my meat and milk and such comes from local small dairy farms.

Amber Lamps
05-31-2010, 10:06 AM
the big corporate ones couldn't care less. :(

this is the reason all my meat and milk and such comes from local small dairy farms.

That's all I'm trying to say. Almost every time I've been to one of these places, I've seen some sort of brutality. Employee ''A" has to move X number of cows, chickens, turkeys, etc from holding area "A" to processing area "B" before he can go home... I know most of you push pencils for a living but you must have had a moment at some time when you've become frustrated at an inanimate object and slammed it, thrown it, tore it up, etc. Now lets say that this object that is keeping you from completing your task has a mind of it's own...:idk: That pen really IS hiding, those reports ARE ruining themselves, etc. Again, I don't condone this behavior but I have definitely lost my temper at work with lifeless mechanical objects that SEEMED to be purposely thwarting my progress, especially when I was younger.

When you work with animals, in these numbers, every day they must become "product". No more important than the parts that fly down an assembly line to a factory worker. I'm very glad that I don't work with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of living things that must sometime seem to be absolutely born to ruin my day.:panic: If they were smart, they'd figure out a way to put these cows in a coma, feed them intravenous, bag their waste, harvest the product and use the meat for dog food when they can no longer produce milk. Kinda like the Matrix or Blade....:idk:

Kaneman
05-31-2010, 11:23 AM
So is tossing around product when you work at Best Buy but the workers there do it every week... So is mistreating the animals at a pet stote but people do it... so is mistreating patients at a hospital but nurses do it... so is surfing the net at work...
News flash employees don't always consider what is best for the company...

No shit dude, I didn't say they didn't do it.

Homeslice
05-31-2010, 11:26 AM
Why would a small local dairy be any less likely to abuse animals than a large corporate one?

In my experience, small companies of ANY kind have less red tape & formality.

azoomm
05-31-2010, 11:29 AM
Why would a small local dairy be any less likely to abuse animals than a large corporate one?

In my experience, small companies of ANY kind have less red tape & formality.

At a smaller farm, it's their personal livelyhood. They understand that stressing the cows, even ONE cow, will directly affect their bottom line.

I haven't watched the video, and won't. Humans suck.

sherri_chickie
05-31-2010, 02:09 PM
There is a reason I like animals more than most people. My parents treat their livestock like family,seriously, most of the cows have names. How can you eat a pet named " Squinty?" People are always commenting on how we have the most docile cows they have ever seen...lol

Beating and abusing animals is not going to solve any problems with them!! I hope the abusers rot in jail.