Rush your stroke wife to the Hospital = Jail Time

[Trip]

Fucked up...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jun/19/newlyweds-want-answers-for-arrest/

Aline Wright's honeymoon this week included a rush to the hospital and a trip to jail for her husband.

"They handcuffed him in front of my room," she said Friday, an hour after being released from Erlanger hospital.

Both Mrs. Wright and her husband, Eric Jesse Wright, 27, work at Erlanger. She is an emergency room nurse, he is a nurse technician who served as a medic in Iraq with the U.S. Army.

Mrs. Wright, 22, also is a cancer survivor whose left leg was amputated above the knee and who suffers from a heart condition as a result of previous chemotherapy.

On Wednesday night, she started showing symptoms of a possible stroke, she said. Her husband checked her physical reactions and decided she needed to be rushed to the hospital.


The couple, who were married June 13 at the Yellow Deli, lives near Missionary Ridge and knew they were a 10-minute drive from the hospital. With horn honking and headlights flashing, Mr. Wright rushed his wife to the hospital, running a couple of red lights along the way, his wife said.

"All the lights were green except the last two," she said.

After the car crossed through one of those lights, a Chattanooga police patrol car followed behind, its own lights flashing. The couple initially thought the officer was helping them get to the hospital, since they were so close, Mrs. Wright said.

Instead, when they pulled up to the emergency room entrance, Officer James Daves approached.

"The first words he said were, 'I'm going to arrest you,'" Mrs. Wright said, tearing up as she described the scene nearly two days later in a friend's Signal Mountain home.

Mr. Wright wasn't taken into custody on Wednesday, his wife said, and he tried to turn himself in to authorities on Thursday but was told by jail officers that his name wasn't in their computer database.

On Friday, Erlanger security officers took him out of her hospital room and delivered him to Chattanooga police, Mrs. Wright and family friends say.

Mr. Wright was booked into Hamilton County Jail on Friday morning on seven charges, according to court records, including assault on police, disorderly conduct, reckless endangerment, felony evading arrest, registration expired and two counts of traffic signals violation.

Family friends said late Friday that Mr. Wright was released from jail after paying a $7,500 bond.

The Hamilton County General Sessions Court website lists his trial date as July 9.

Lt. Kim Noorbergen, Chattanooga police spokeswoman, said there was a supervisory complaint filed against Officer Daves following the incident. The officer's supervisor, Sgt. Anthony Easter, reviewed the complaint and determined that "no policy violations, rules or procedures or laws were broken," she said.

Mr. Wright can request an internal affairs investigation on Officer Daves, officials said. Family friends confirmed late Friday afternoon that the couple plans to file that request Monday.

Time is of the essence in a potential stroke because brain tissue can suffer irrevocable damage with each passing minute, according to a signed letter from Erlanger Dr. Francis M. Fesmire. A copy of that letter, provided by Mrs. Wright, states that "therapies for acute stroke are most effective the earlier that treatment is initiated."

Dr. Fesmire wrote the letter asking for leniency in the charges filed against Mr. Wright.

On Wednesday, after she was placed in a room at Erlanger, hospital security came in and told Mr. Wright that Chattanooga police had issued arrest warrants for him, Mrs. Wright said. When he wasn't taken into custody Thursday after going to the jail, the couple thought their problem was solved.

But about 9 a.m. Friday, Erlanger police officers came to their room, asked Mr. Wright into the hall, handcuffed him and transported him out of the building to waiting Chattanooga police, she said.

Erlanger spokeswoman Jennifer Homa said whenever there are felony arrest warrants for an occupant of the hospital, Erlanger security will detain and transport that person to the custody of the outside police agency.

[tallywacker]

Most of those charges will be dropped. I know people that have ran and got caught and most of their charges were dropped and they had no excuse to run.

[derf]

Me thinks that there is more to the story based on the list of charges. But I bet it was a dick cop too who didnt want to hear that the wife was going to the hospital, and made the situation worse by trying to arrest the guy right away rather than asses the situation

[pauldun170]

Don't do anything wrong ...
Including assault on police,
disorderly conduct,
reckless endangerment,
felony evading arrest,
registration expired
two counts of traffic signals violation.

In the classic time honored tradition of american opinion I declare him guilty until proven innocent of all charges.

Shoulda tazed his ass right there in the hospital room.
Officers jobs are hard therefore we should assume this guy is an pedo-gang banging-homosexual-anti troops-peta lovin-atheist-liberal-illegal alien-meth addict welfare acuser who should be castrated and deported to guantanamo because he hates freedom.
Thats unless he rides a motorcycle. something like a RC-51 or HawkGT.
If thats the case then that officer should clearly be kicked off the force.

[Kaneman]

Me thinks that there is more to the story based on the list of charges. But I bet it was a dick cop too who didnt want to hear that the wife was going to the hospital, and made the situation worse by trying to arrest the guy right away rather than asses the situation

Don't count on there being more to the story....this was a big local story when it went down. This fucking cocksucker is still on the force BTW, I believe he was rehired in Oklahoma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jJsFdnckU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nezRJ4XiXBc

[pauldun170]

The liberal media at it again. Obviously we do not have all the facts and should take the following article with a grain of salt.

UPDATE: Officer accused of blocking ER on paid leave
CHATTANOOGA (WRCB) - The Chattanooga Police Department tells Eyewitness News it has placed the officer accused of barring a couple from entering the Erlanger Medical Center emergency room on paid administrative leave pending an investigation.

Officer James Daves is on paid administrative leave pending an Internal Affairs investigation of the incident that occurred at Erlanger Medical Center involving Eric "Jesse" Wright and Aline Wright.

This is not the first incident that has led to an investigation for Officer James Daves. Channel 3 Eyewitness News has confirmed that Officer Daves had been suspended without pay in September 2008. His suspension lasted for five days.

Aline Wright told WRCB Officer Daves blocked the entrance to the emergency room at Erlanger Medical Center after her husband Eric "Jesse" Wright ran a red light while attempting to get her to the emergency room. Aline, a cancer survivor, was showing symptoms of having a stroke at the time she was rushed to the hospital.

A warrant was issued for Jesse, and he was subsequently arrested.

The Chattanooga Police Department tells Channel 3 Eyewitness News that because an Internal Affairs investigation has been launched into this incident, they will not make any further comments about the case.

[the chi]

The hubby probably told the cop to get the hell out of his way so he could save his wife, thus the assault.

I can understand both sides tho. The hubby should have at least used his cell to contact 911 and tell them he was coming so they could have sent an officer to escort, tho from the article, maybe he did since they thought the cop was there to escort them.

[Smittie61984]

I can understand both sides tho. The hubby should have at least used his cell to contact 911 and tell them he was coming so they could have sent an officer to escort, tho from the article, maybe he did since they thought the cop was there to escort them.

I was thinking that too. No way they are dumb enough to think that them running a red light (horns and lights flashing or not) would cause a cop to think "stroke".

Both Mrs. Wright and her husband, Eric Jesse Wright, 27, work at Erlanger. She is an emergency room nurse, he is a nurse technician who served as a medic in Iraq with the U.S. Army.

Mrs. Wright, 22, also is a cancer survivor whose left leg was amputated above the knee and who suffers from a heart condition as a result of previous chemotherapy.

God damn. In the words of Sean Hannity, they are great Americans. Stories like this remind you that your life doesn't suck as much as you think it does.

I hope everything is dropped based on how awesome those people are.

[pauldun170]

I was thinking that too. No way they are dumb enough to think that them running a red light (horns and lights flashing or not) would cause a cop to think "stroke".



God damn. In the words of Sean Hannity, they are great Americans. Stories like this remind you that your life doesn't suck as much as you think it does.

I hope everything is dropped based on how awesome those people are.


:lol:
The officers supporters are already trying to counter with "he's a veteran too" cards.
In order for the officer to counter the Wrights, he needs a dead dog, an autistic child and three bouts of swine flu. Thats just to up his ranking to parity.

After that I think they have to arm wrestle while dressed in scuba gear at the bottom of a shark tank.

"Police officers jobs are HARD" vs nurses

[Smittie61984]

:lol:


"Police officers jobs are HARD" vs nurses

What about vs an Army Medic (the guy getting arrested)?

[pauldun170]

What about vs an Army Medic (the guy getting arrested)?

It depends on how recently an episode of MASH was run.
Sometimes if a war movie is on and a lead character screams "MEDIC" that can have an effect too, but it really comes down to the movie.

[Kaneman]

I wanna know why the Cop was previously suspended without pay....

[Trip]

I wanna know why the Cop was previously suspended without pay....

me too

[Kaneman]

Makes me wish I still had all my lil' P.I. tools...

[6doublefive321]

Is this guy the worst cop ever? If he wanted to arrest the driver so bad, why didn't he take him down at the hospital? Its not like the guy went missing. Nothing about this story makes sense.

A few months ago when a similar situation took place with an NFL player, the player was cuffed at the entrance to the hospital. I don't get it.

[Kaneman]

A few months ago when a similar situation took place with an NFL player, the player was cuffed at the entrance to the hospital. I don't get it.

That's what the video I posted up top was, that one was crazy too...here in Dallas, Tx.

[the chi]

Not that I condone the cops actions, but as far as the husband showing up at the jail, while it sounds good, it doesnt really work that way. All the crap they filed on him would take at least a day to get into the system to even show a warrant for him whenhe showed up, IF thats how they handled matters there. Arresting him at the hospital was in rather poor taste tho, since they could have called him and told him to present himself at the station for arrest.

[Homeslice]

Typical for cops.........Get all mad when a citizen tries to break traffic laws as much as they themselves do.

"Only officers know how to drive fast".......yeah right.

[Smittie61984]

It depends on how recently an episode of MASH was run.
Sometimes if a war movie is on and a lead character screams "MEDIC" that can have an effect too, but it really comes down to the movie.

Gotcha. I'll have to check my TV schedule and see if Saving Ryan's Priva... I mean Saving Private Ryan is on.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Breaking the law is breaking the law. he knew what he was doing. Had he ran one of those two lights and hit a van full of kids this would be a different story. The EMS could have just as easily treated her at his house as they could have in the ER, if not sooner when triage and assessment is factored in.

She wasnt bleeding or in immediate danger of loosing her life. She could have been given a blood thinner and anti-coagulant even easier via the paramedics. Not to mention that the symptoms of stroke can easily be confused with heat stroke or fatigue, two things a chemo patient would be easily susceptible too.


Somebody get Tommy in here for his 2c though, im just going off what i know from my facility and its red tape bullshit with the ER.

[Sixxxxer]

I doubt he Literally Blew the light...He probably stopped at it saw that it was clear to pass and then went thru it...And your right breaking the law IS breaking the law...But werent laws meant to be broken??

Cut me a break, Thats BS and the Cop is a Fuckbag

[pauldun170]

I doubt he Literally Blew the light...He probably stopped at it saw that it was clear to pass and then went thru it...And your right breaking the law IS breaking the law...But werent laws meant to be broken??

Cut me a break, Thats BS and the Cop is a Fuckbag

I think if he literally blew the light he would have gotten electrocuted and fallen.

[ericr]

Not saying the cops didn't go overboard on either case but common...what are 98%+ cases of people not stopping for a cop??? Drugs, DUI, fleeing from a crime etc. The cop is not gonna stop and say, "oh sure, go on in the hospital I believe you".

HAve some sense, get on the phone and call 911 and ask for an escort if you think the amber lamps cant' get to you quicker than you can get to them. And the football player should have stopped immediately and told the cop the situation and asked for an escort if he hadn't already called for one.

As soon as you don't stop for a cop, he's going to assume you're up to some criminal activity, and I would assume the same thing if I was a cop. They have a dangerous job and most cops that get killed are from routine traffic stops when someone pulls a gun on them. You don't think they're on edge after you run from them???

Don't get me wrong, some cops go way overboard and those are the ones you hear about on the news, not the other 98% that do a great job for next to nothing pay.

When my dad had his heart attack my mother took him to the ER. NOT speeding or running red lights, and when he got worse she called the amberlamps to come meet them part way which they did (hospital is 20 mi away here). She didnt get arrested cause she didn't break the law or run from a cop, go figure.

[Captain Morgan]

Me thinks that there is more to the story based on the list of charges. But I bet it was a dick cop too who didnt want to hear that the wife was going to the hospital, and made the situation worse by trying to arrest the guy right away rather than asses the situation

Not saying the cops didn't go overboard on either case but common...what are 98%+ cases of people not stopping for a cop??? Drugs, DUI, fleeing from a crime etc. The cop is not gonna stop and say, "oh sure, go on in the hospital I believe you".

No, but common sense would tell you that horn honking, lights flashing, pulling up to hospital indicates something is wrong. Go with the guy into the ER and take care of the situation inside. Don't cause him grief or block him from getting his wife into ER. Wait for him to talk to people inside the hospital, get her checked in, then handle the situation.

I'm on a cop's side a good portion of the time, but I think this situation needed some use of common sense.

[ericr]

No, but common sense would tell you that horn honking, lights flashing, pulling up to hospital indicates something is wrong. Go with the guy into the ER and take care of the situation inside. Don't cause him grief or block him from getting his wife into ER. Wait for him to talk to people inside the hospital, get her checked in, then handle the situation.

I'm on a cop's side a good portion of the time, but I think this situation needed some use of common sense.

I'm not necessarily on the cops side on either of these cases but you have to think about what you're doing in situations like this. It's the same as if you're carrying a concealed weapon and stop someone from commiting a crime. When the cops get there and you have a gun in your hand...you're the bad guy until they figure out what happened and you'll get shot if you don't immediatly follow their instructions to drop your gun etc. Doesn't matter if you did right, they're out to protect themselves and the "public". Again, i'm not saying they all do a great job at this, just playing devils' advocate.

It is hard for most people to think clearly in an emergency situation though and that makes it tough for everyone in cases like these. My problem is I tend to be almost too calm in some emergeny situations and people can think I don't give a damn, but I'm just assessing what's happening and I can usually act clearly and concisely then.

[Captain Morgan]

I agree, and probably should have clarified that most likely, the couple needed to use some common sense in the situation. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to rush past the cop or yelled at him, etc. They possibly didn't even try to explain to the cop, just rushed into the ER. I imagine both parties were at fault in this one.

[Evadd]

i think the whole thing is pretty simple. the cop was right to chase the car. however, once he saw a man pulling his stroke-having one-legged wife out of the car, he should have said "oh shit" instead of "i'm going to arrest you", and helped the guy out, rather than still try to stop him. the guy in the cop's uniform was way out of line once he found out what was really happening.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Hey, the guy knew he was breaking the law. he did it to save his wifes life, maybe. So he must have understood the risks. Its still admirable, but he's pretty much like a mild version of batman. He's not the abulance his wife needed, but he's the one she deserved.

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

[Sixxxxer]

Nts do you understand the severity of a stroke and its effects on the human body? You would rather waste time waiting for the ambulance to come to your house? No thanks...the response time of driving yourself and your loved one to the hospital is ten fold over the ambulance response time...when you said her life wasn't in immediate danger...well that's just ignorance...just because someone isn't bleeding or losing a limb doesn't meant there not in immediate need of medical attention.

And with the ryan moats incident when the cop was threatening to tow the car I would said fuck it tow the damn thing and let me go to my dying mothers side...and people wonder why the world has such a dislike for police officers...granted most of the time they only get chastized by the bad they do and very rarely do we see the good cop stories in the world...but still...they are a symbol of "to protect and serve" your not protecting shit when you act like this

[cbrchick]

She wasnt bleeding or in immediate danger of loosing her life. She could have been given a blood thinner and anti-coagulant even easier via the paramedics. Not to mention that the symptoms of stroke can easily be confused with heat stroke or fatigue, two things a chemo patient would be easily susceptible too.


Somebody get Tommy in here for his 2c though, im just going off what i know from my facility and its red tape bullshit with the ER.

Uh....

You have to have a fairly hi-probability or lack of resources to give someone thrombolitics without a CT of their head. You don't know if it's a stroke caused by a clot or by a bleed in their head...

So no, paramedics can't give thinners based on their assessment. (not here anyway)

And stroke symptoms vs heat stroke and fatigue are easily differentiated.

I've never confused either for one another. Big differences between the two. IV fluids wont fix a stroke.

But as far as buddy calling EHS, I agree. If it's 10 mins away, call the paramedics.

Here we have a 3-6 hour window from the onset of symptoms to treat a clot based stroke with thinners. If you rush to the hospital, run red lights, and possibly cause more accidents by speeding... not the smartest thing to do.

Lights and sirens and a dedicated emergency vehicle do a lot to get people out of your way safely....

As far as the police officer... over reaction to a degree for sure....

[tommymac]

Nts do you understand the severity of a stroke and its effects on the human body? You would rather waste time waiting for the ambulance to come to your house? No thanks...the response time of driving yourself and your loved one to the hospital is ten fold over the ambulance response time...when you said her life wasn't in immediate danger...well that's just ignorance...just because someone isn't bleeding or losing a limb doesn't meant there not in immediate need of medical attention.

And with the ryan moats incident when the cop was threatening to tow the car I would said fuck it tow the damn thing and let me go to my dying mothers side...and people wonder why the world has such a dislike for police officers...granted most of the time they only get chastized by the bad they do and very rarely do we see the good cop stories in the world...but still...they are a symbol of "to protect and serve" your not protecting shit when you act like this

And whayt if their heart stops or they stop breathing? The ambulance has stuff on board to address that, thye can also assess the pt and if it does look like a stroke will call a notification and hopefully take them to a stroke center. When we get a stroke call we have CT cleared and waiting and neurology is uauly already in the ER to asess the pt and we can get TPA on board in under an hr in most cases.


I dont know anyone in their right mind who would give thrombolytics without a CT unless you want to find a career in something other than the medical field.

[VatorMan]

I'm sure I would have done the same thing. However, I do understand why he either needs an escort or and ambulance. You don't think clearly when you are personally involved.

[Amber Lamps]

I'm sure I would have done the same thing. However, I do understand why he either needs an escort or and ambulance. You don't think clearly when you are personally involved.

:idk: I have personally run several people to the hospital in my lifetime, to include my finance' who passed away the third time... I understand that you running your loved one to the hospital is probably quicker than waiting for an amberlamps to show up and then take her BUT I don't think that you have a "right" to run lights, etc. I honestly didn't run any lights. I did speed though. It's a tough situation but it'll become a lot tougher if in your panic, you get into an accident in your haste.

[azoomm]

i think the whole thing is pretty simple. the cop was right to chase the car. however, once he saw a man pulling his stroke-having one-legged wife out of the car, he should have said "oh shit" instead of "i'm going to arrest you", and helped the guy out, rather than still try to stop him. the guy in the cop's uniform was way out of line once he found out what was really happening.

This is what I was thinking. I mean, making chase is all fine and good, but when they pull into an ER and start getting a clearly disabled person out of the vehicle maybe a bit of an explanation.

It makes me sad.

[Kaneman]

:idk: I have personally run several people to the hospital in my lifetime, to include my finance' who passed away the third time... I understand that you running your loved one to the hospital is probably quicker than waiting for an amberlamps to show up and then take her BUT I don't think that you have a "right" to run lights, etc. I honestly didn't run any lights. I did speed though. It's a tough situation but it'll become a lot tougher if in your panic, you get into an accident in your haste.

All great points, even ambulance drivers don't just blatantly run red lights, cops are the only ones who do that...and then even rarely.

Around here though many of the lights we have to sit at are completely empty and could easily be run safely....as long as there isn't a cop hiding somewhere waiting to make the city some more bling bling.

BTW dude, did you say your fiance passed away for the third time, as in you've had three fiancee's die on you...or that you ran her three times and she passed on the third?

[Trip]

All great points, even ambulance drivers don't just blatantly run red lights, cops are the only ones who do that...and then even rarely.

Around here though many of the lights we have to sit at are completely empty and could easily be run safely....as long as there isn't a cop hiding somewhere waiting to make the city some more bling bling.

BTW dude, did you say your fiance passed away for the third time, as in you've had three fiancee's die on you...or that you ran her three times and she passed on the third?

They don't run a lot because a lot can trigger the light to change to green.

[Kaneman]

They don't run a lot because a lot can trigger the light to change to green.

Not around here, we have old school lights on timers. Hence the waiting and waiting and waiting at lights on a regular basis. Only the more wealthy cities like Plano and Frisco have super-lights. My info may be dated, as its been about 5 years since I rode with any local ambulance.

BTW, you would think lights and sirens make it safer to break the laws, but they actually have the opposite effect. You'd almost have to see it happen to fully understand how bad it is, but people flat freak the fuck out when they here lights and sirens. And I don't mean a few people here and there, I mean A LOT of people. They will swerve right in front of you, slam on the brakes right in front of you, dart into intersections....all because of the panic induced by the lights and sirens on the ambulance. Its fucking unreal...and I honestly wouldn't believe it unless I had witnessed it so many times. Seriously, every code 3 call you respond to is like that.

It would be so much safer to ditch the lights and sirens and just run fast, blipping as needed....but you can't do that out of lawsuit concerns. If you are driving an ambulance, doing 15mph over the speed limit, and you hit someone, you and your ambulance company are fucked. But if you do it with lights and sirens on you'll probably be ok.

So, as to the original story, and this man's ability to drive fast and run redlights without lights and sirens, he has the capability to be safer than an ambulance. If he was just running straight through red lights without looking first, then yea...he was a danger. But if he was stopping and checking as I suspect he would've been, then there was very little public danger. I've been running red lights and speeding on a daily basis and have never caused an accident.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Nts do you understand the severity of a stroke and its effects on the human body? You would rather waste time waiting for the ambulance to come to your house? No thanks...the response time of driving yourself and your loved one to the hospital is ten fold over the ambulance response time...when you said her life wasn't in immediate danger...well that's just ignorance...just because someone isn't bleeding or losing a limb doesn't meant there not in immediate need of medical attention.

And with the ryan moats incident when the cop was threatening to tow the car I would said fuck it tow the damn thing and let me go to my dying mothers side...and people wonder why the world has such a dislike for police officers...granted most of the time they only get chastized by the bad they do and very rarely do we see the good cop stories in the world...but still...they are a symbol of "to protect and serve" your not protecting shit when you act like this

Sixxer, we have a 32 bed unit dedicated to stroke victims on our 9th floor, which i visit fairly frequently, i think i have a grasp of the implications of what a stroke is, how it is caused, and its effects on the human body.

Uh....

You have to have a fairly hi-probability or lack of resources to give someone thrombolitics without a CT of their head. You don't know if it's a stroke caused by a clot or by a bleed in their head...

So no, paramedics can't give thinners based on their assessment. (not here anyway)

And stroke symptoms vs heat stroke and fatigue are easily differentiated.

I've never confused either for one another. Big differences between the two. IV fluids wont fix a stroke.

But as far as buddy calling EHS, I agree. If it's 10 mins away, call the paramedics.

Here we have a 3-6 hour window from the onset of symptoms to treat a clot based stroke with thinners. If you rush to the hospital, run red lights, and possibly cause more accidents by speeding... not the smartest thing to do.

Lights and sirens and a dedicated emergency vehicle do a lot to get people out of your way safely....

As far as the police officer... over reaction to a degree for sure....

At general we have stroke teams available for this, but yea, typically treatment is going to be delayed until a proper assessment is done in radiology. I'm in school for such, actually.

And im only going to assume that a nurse tech wouldnt be able to clearly see and assess the symptoms of a stroke patient. Granted he had military training, but i doubt stroke management was part of a field medics training.

Either way factor in the fact that its a loved one, and the emotional stress and lack of good judgment that would cause, and you have good potential to do more damage than good.

More than anything im playing devils advocate people, but i've also clearly state that i dont think he did the WRONG thing. i just dont think we should be so aghast that he's being punished for committing a crime. there's an old saying about the best intentions...

[Trip]

The guy has come out and said yeah he ran the lights, he deserves those tickets. He thinks the other shit is bullshit though.

[Kaneman]

There is NO guarantee the ambulance is going to arrive at your house within any given time frame, as we've seen again and again on the nightly news. In a life or death situation I'll use my own car.

[tommymac]

Either way factor in the fact that its a loved one, and the emotional stress and lack of good judgment that would cause, and you have good potential to do more damage than good.

Excellent point. I have run stroke codes in the ER and its usualy a prety chill thing to do(only becasue I have done it before) but if its a friend or family member that can change things drastically.

had to say what training/credentials this guy has. We have some techs that can spot problems out a mile away and others that I swear forget to breathe sometimes, but out here they realy try to hammer the issue of time in case of strokes since its so critical in getting TPA on board if theyre cadidates for it.

We had a bad one sunday night actualy, got a notification of someone with SVT comming in, I figure ok thats easy, thats the easiest algorythm for me. Turns out EMS did EVERYTHING in the field so I am like ok what now. We ge tthe heart rate down to about 120, she sstill altered and not realy communicating. We figure maybe she stroked out, lets scan her head. Shes got a huge bleed in her brain. Def didnt see that one comming.

[tommymac]

The guy has come out and said yeah he ran the lights, he deserves those tickets. He thinks the other shit is bullshit though.

Agreed. Given the situation, anyone will take a few tickets over the alternative.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

There is NO guarantee the ambulance is going to arrive at your house within any given time frame, as we've seen again and again on the nightly news. In a life or death situation I'll use my own car.

You're going off what you see on the news. As in you're going off the exception, not the rule. any given day in the ER at least 50 ems workers are going to come through our doors every hour.

[tommymac]

You're going off what you see on the news. As in you're going off the exception, not the rule. any given day in the ER at least 50 ems workers are going to come through our doors every hour.

Theyre too busy picking up all the assholes who need prescription refills or have a cold to actualy tend to people who are actualy sick :td:

[azoomm]

The guy has come out and said yeah he ran the lights, he deserves those tickets. He thinks the other shit is bullshit though.

Right.

That's the problem here. He took responsibility for breaking the law, thought that it was justified but owned the idea that it's a black and white system. The cop blocking the entrance and not rendering assistance is bullshit - as is the arrest.

[Kaneman]

You're going off what you see on the news. As in you're going off the exception, not the rule. any given day in the ER at least 50 ems workers are going to come through our doors every hour.

Sure, and local statues say Medstar has to be at your door in a code 3 situation within 7 minutes. As of 5 years ago they were doing that about 65% of the time, the other 35% they were later. I'm not going solely off what I've seen on the news, I'm also basing it on experience having been late to many scenes myself.

[Trip]

Sure, and local statues say Medstar has to be at your door in a code 3 situation within 7 minutes. As of 5 years ago they were doing that about 65% of the time, the other 35% they were later. I'm not going solely off what I've seen on the news, I'm also basing it on experience having been late to many scenes myself.

The Knoxville Area has failed to meet standards the last several times they have done the statistics. It's amazing they haven't been replaced yet because Knoxville uses a contractor.

[Kaneman]

The Knoxville Area has failed to meet standards the last several times they have done the statistics. It's amazing they haven't been replaced yet because Knoxville uses a contractor.

Private ambulance companies are pretty fucked up all around. City Fire Departments, at least in well run cities, tend to do much better with EMS response. I've never heard of a private ambulance company around here meeting their goals for response times.

So yea, I'll take my chances with my own car. I can do basic first aid just fine, and can get to the hospital in under 10 minutes....unless I get pulled over by some fucktard cop of course.

[Trip]

Private ambulance companies are pretty fucked up all around. City Fire Departments, at least in well run cities, tend to do much better with EMS response. I've never heard of a private ambulance company around here meeting their goals for response times.

So yea, I'll take my chances with my own car. I can do basic first aid just fine, and can get to the hospital in under 10 minutes....unless I get pulled over by some fucktard cop of course.

We have city services in the little city I live in, I am happy about that shit. No contractor for us.

[Amber Lamps]

All great points, even ambulance drivers don't just blatantly run red lights, cops are the only ones who do that...and then even rarely.

Around here though many of the lights we have to sit at are completely empty and could easily be run safely....as long as there isn't a cop hiding somewhere waiting to make the city some more bling bling.

BTW dude, did you say your fiance passed away for the third time, as in you've had three fiancee's die on you...or that you ran her three times and she passed on the third?

She had asthma and I ran her to the hospital 3 separate times before she died.

[Trip]

All charges dropped, bad press is powerful stuff.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jun/22/chattanooga-all-charges-dropped-against-man-rushin/

All seven charges against a Chattanooga man who ran two red lights last week while rushing his wife to the hospital have been dropped, the district attorney’s office said today. Eric Jesse Wright was charged with assault on police, disorderly conduct, reckless endangerment, felony evading arrest, registration expired and two counts of traffic signals violation. He was booked into Hamilton County Jail Friday and released on bond.
He was taking his wife, Aline, to Erlanger hospital Wednesday night, believing that she was suffering a stroke.
Officer James Daves, who saw Mr. Wright run the red lights and followed him to Erlanger with lights flashing, has been placed on paid administrative leave until an internal affairs investigation is completed, police officials said.

[101lifts2]

Cop was outta line...but good the charges were dropped.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

one time i broke my arm snowboarding and we sped to the hospital. a cop pulled us over. i showed him my broken arm, and then he pulled his gun on me and cold cocked the driver, and stole my wallet.

[Trip]

one time i broke my arm snowboarding and we sped to the hospital. a cop pulled us over. i showed him my broken arm, and then he pulled his gun on me and cold cocked the driver, and stole my wallet.

good, you deserved it

[NONE_too_SOFT]

i meant to say the cop gave the driver a cold cut and then let us go.

[Full Throttle]

This is the traffic cam that caught Jesse Wright running the light. He did not slow down and actually almost hit the officer. He used very bad judgement when it came to this light. It could of turned out very badly. However i do believe i would of rushed to the hospital myself as well but i wouldn't of ran the lights like he just did. He probably just developed tunnel vision and didn't even notice there were lights there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRlupwhAxpQ&feature=player_embedded

[Full Throttle]

I live here in Chattanooga and 95% of the time no one but yourself is stopped at a light after dark. Especially on that side of town. Once you get to Market street that a different story but i'm willing to bet he was on McCallie Ave,Rossville Blv, or 3rd Street and all thre are dead after dark and are the fastest way to Erlanger.

[Captain Morgan]

Ok, that video tells a bit of a different story. Now, anyone have video of the confrontation at the ER? The guy definitely should have stopped for that light, no doubt about it.

[Full Throttle]

Im sure there is a video but it probably wont ever get posted. It would make the Officer probably look really bad. But the news cast i saw stated the officer grabbed Jesse Wright as he was getting his wife out of the car and Jesse flung the cops arm off him and scratched him in the process and thats where the Assault charges came into play. But when it comes to the traffic light he most certainly should of slowed down. The damn light was about to change anyways lol.

[Kaneman]

Wow, he did actually almost kill the cop involved. It could've been handled better, but the outcome is satisfactory. A dying wife is no excuse to kill an uninvolved party.

[Full Throttle]

Thats how i feel. However with that said i still would of rushed her myself to the hospital and probably ran the light just not the way he did. ie Slowdown and drive through

[pauldun170]

This is the traffic cam that caught Jesse Wright running the light. He did not slow down and actually almost hit the officer. He used very bad judgement when it came to this light. It could of turned out very badly. However i do believe i would of rushed to the hospital myself as well but i wouldn't of ran the lights like he just did. He probably just developed tunnel vision and didn't even notice there were lights there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRlupwhAxpQ&feature=player_embedded

I would have definitely ticketed the driver and paid a homeless guy to kick him in the balls for that bullshit.

[Full Throttle]

I would have definitely ticketed the driver and paid a homeless guy to kick him in the balls for that bullshit.

:LOL: Yea he needed some punishment. He deserved some of the tickets

[Kaneman]

Thats how i feel. However with that said i still would of rushed her myself to the hospital and probably ran the light just not the way he did. ie Slowdown and drive through

Maybe my opinion was originally flawed in support of the driver because I have actual training on how to drive Code 3, and was looking at it as more of a common sense issue. I didn't imagine he was blatantly running red lights...but there you have it.

My bad on that. Rushing to the hospital or even running red lights is one thing, but I have no doubt if that cop hadn't noticed the driving coming he would be dead right now. It would've impacted right on the driver's side.

[pauldun170]

For anyone in emergency services (enforecement,fire or medical), the rule is usually
"You blow the light you take ownership of the intersection - You are responsible for EVERYONE at the intersection. Before going through, confirm that all traffic is stopped/controlled and only go through when it is safe to do so.

Since most nurses (once you exclude the valuable medical service they provide to society...)are fucking self absorbed idiots who think they know better than everyone else it is no suprise that shithead would barrel through an intersection like that.

Since most cops are self absorbed "woe is me everybody owes me something" + "All civilians are lesser than me...I'm am above you all" crybaby deuchebags its no surpise that he cuffed em.

Since most of the internetz has huge veiny cyber cocks its no suprise we layed the smak down on both the perps and po-po.

[Particle Man]

and paid a homeless guy to kick him in the balls for that bullshit.

awesome use of natural resources :lol:

[pauldun170]

awesome use of natural resources :lol:

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