Anyone know anything about Inground Pools?

[Particle Man]

I'm beating my head against the wall here.

My mother has a 20'X40' inground pool. I'm the primary caretaker.

For some reason, I'm having a hell of a time with cloudy water.

pH is perfect. Alkalinity is perfect.

Chlorine is mid-range but seems to be up and down from day to day.

This is the first time I've ever had this problem. WTF

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[Mikey]

Have you tried shocking it? That has always been my sort of "reset button" when I would run into that sort of an issue.

[Particle Man]

Have you tried shocking it? That has always been my sort of "reset button" when I would run into that sort of an issue.

Yeah - I've shocked the crap out of it to see if it would help. No dice.

I may do it again just for giggles.

Thanks for the suggestion though. I'm scratching my head here.

[Rangerscott]

Dead hooker at the bottom. How old is the filter sand?

[Particle Man]

Dead hooker at the bottom.

crap - I KNEW I forgot something.

:wtfru:










:lol:

[ericr]

I know that's why I have "friends with pools" :lol:

Seriously, take a water sample to the local pool store, they'll test it and fix you right up and save you a bunch of hassle.

Take the dead hooker out first ;)

[njchopper87]

Shocking is the goto for my grandpa too.. if for some reason that doesn't work he just takes a sample to be tested at the place he bought the pool from and they tell him what to do. Last time they told him to add calcium or some shit.. he doesn't use chlorine though.

[Captain Morgan]

Has it been raining a lot there? granted, I would think shocking it would take care of it, but hard telling.

[the chi]

Go with the "take it to the pool store" option, save yourself time, headache and cash.

[goof2]

Rangerscott mentioned the filter. Is it a sand filter or a pleated filter element (like a large oil filter)? If it is the pleated kind take it out of the housing and clean all the crap off it with decent pressure from a hose nozzle. If it is the sand kind when was the last time you backwashed it? If either type of filter is real dirty the water will never get clear. Also already mentioned was shocking it. You said you already did that. The pool looks like it has a vinyl/plastic liner. You may want to be a bit careful with too many shock treatments and a vinyl/plastic liner pool as the material can wear out quick as hell. If it is vinyl/plastic I would get the water tested before shocking it again. Good luck.

[marko138]

I know they are nice to swim in, but not when they got that stankonia in them like yours apparently does.

[Particle Man]

Cartridge filter. Pressure washed this morning and two days ago and two days before that.

Marko that's the funny thing: the water smells fine and it isn't slimy or anything. Mom brought water down and they said all levels are perfect. Gonna see if the filter gets anymore out then bring another water sample down.

Frustrating as hell.

It has rained the past week or so but it was cloudy before that.

Oh well. Let's see what happens.

[Rangerscott]

Its just like a lake. Stop whining and get in. " Ew. I cant swim in nothing but super clean water."

Pools on cruise ships in the middle of the ocean and lake houses with swimming pools. Wigga plz.

Its just like a lake. Stop whining and get in. " Ew. I cant swim in nothing but super clean water."

Pools on cruise ships in the middle of the ocean and lake houses with swimming pools. Wigga plz.

[racedoll]

I know that's why I have "friends with pools" :lol:

Seriously, take a water sample to the local pool store, they'll test it and fix you right up and save you a bunch of hassle.

Take the dead hooker out first ;)

Take it to the store although I had one year that I couldn't get mine clear. It was cloudy for a while. I'll have to ask Mom what we did to clear it up...

EDIT: Mom said it was the sand in the filter.

[Smittie61984]

I remember at my parent's house we had an above ground but had green water for a while. Shit was perfect and I forgot what they did but I think they had to shock it and something else to fix it. Hell I kind of liked the green water.

[Trip]

Sorry my bad, I come up to NY when you aren't there and poop in the pool.

[Particle Man]

Its just like a lake. Stop whining and get in. " Ew. I cant swim in nothing but super clean water."

Pools on cruise ships in the middle of the ocean and lake houses with swimming pools. Wigga plz.

Its just like a lake. Stop whining and get in. " Ew. I cant swim in nothing but super clean water."

Pools on cruise ships in the middle of the ocean and lake houses with swimming pools. Wigga plz.
I didn't say I wasn't swimming in it. If I wasn't getting hounded to clear it up I honestly wouldn't care.

[Angee]

Did the city recently do anything with the water like flush the lines? I'm thinking hard water issues...

[Particle Man]

Did the city recently do anything with the water like flush the lines? I'm thinking hard water issues...

City :lmao: (well water where she is).




(this sucker stays filled year-round - 25,000 gallons of water ain't cheap :lol:)

[Angee]

City :lmao: (well water where she is).




(this sucker stays filled year-round - 25,000 gallons of water ain't cheap :lol:)

DO I look psychic?? :lol Well water BLOWS! Stained the tile in the shower, the jacuzzi and everything else it touched. Landlord got us on city water, but the stench of sulfur still lingers in the pipes...nasty stuff. If she's using water conditioners could the levels be off? (that's assuming she has to top the water off occasionally)

[Particle Man]

DO I look psychic?? :lol Well water BLOWS! Stained the tile in the shower, the jacuzzi and everything else it touched. Landlord got us on city water, but the stench of sulfur still lingers in the pipes...nasty stuff. If she's using water conditioners could the levels be off? (that's assuming she has to top the water off occasionally)

nope, never has to be topped off. It stays pretty level (after a few good rainstorms it has to be drained actually).

Um, you're using the wrong kind of well water. Gotta get the good stuff: underground spring with no sulfur in the area. Poland Spring from the tap. :rockwoot:

Of course, my well is almost 200 feet deep because I'm on a hill (THAT wasn't cheap either :lol:)

[NONE_too_SOFT]

milky white huh...

have there been any "miraculous conceptions" in your family recently?

[Particle Man]

er, no

[stermp66]

how long are you running the filter? cant tell from the picture that well but does it have alot of stuff floating in the water if you look in it? Does the filter have a pressure gauge and is it showing any pressure? if not the filter you have been preesure washing may have a hole in it letting the dirty un filtered water just flow back to the pool water will follow the easies route. if all of this is good, then you need to add some clarifier to the water, it will adhere to the particle making them large engough for the filter to grab them?

[Particle Man]

nope, nothing floating in the water. Pressure is around 15 psi when the pump is in high speed (which is normal when the filter is clean on this particular setup). It's definitely filtering out things like pollen and stuff cuz it was dirty when I pulled it out to clean it.

I did throw some clarifier in there yesterday so we'll see what happens.

Apparently, there are several other people where I work having the exact same problem and they narrowed it down to the large amount of rainfall and a higher than normal pollen count.

I'm gonna let it run for a few days and bring another sample down to the pool place to see what they say. After that, to hell with it: I'm fine swimming in cloudy water. :lol:

[pauldun170]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2zY8WvqYU8&feature=related

[Trip]

nope, nothing floating in the water.

I scoop out the evidence before I leave, but the bacteria remain.

[stermp66]

as long as your clorine level is good your safe to swim in it, it just looks like crap lol, if it is pollen then the clarifer will help to pull it out of the water. Let the filter run just watch the gauge as it will start to climb and the rate of flow the pump is pushing back to the pool will decrease as the pollen or whatever is in the water gets trapped in the filter.

[marko138]

I know a kid who dumped in the school pool once.

[Trip]

I know a kid who dumped in the school pool once.

I have left my soldiers in a few neighborhood community pools after late night swims. Scares me to think how many others have as well. Gross.

[marko138]

I have left my soldiers in a few neighborhood community pools after late night swims. Scares me to think how many others have as well. Gross.
Yeah, we saw this turd at the bottom and were like ":wtf:". Gym teacher told us to get in...the chlorine would take care of it.

[Amber Lamps]

I have left my soldiers in a few neighborhood community pools after late night swims. Scares me to think how many others have as well. Gross.

and you wonder why I wouldn't go swimming with you characters during the rally?...:lol:

[marko138]

and you wonder why I wouldn't go swimming with you characters during the rally?...:lol:
Seems like a wise move now, doesn't it?

[Amber Lamps]

Seems like a wise move now, doesn't it?

Yep!:rockwoot:

[Sean]

I have a guy that shows up once a week and takes care of it. I suggest you hire a guy :P

[Trip]

and you wonder why I wouldn't go swimming with you characters during the rally?...:lol:

Well it's a good thing you don't know what we did to your bed when Chris let us in the cabin.

I have a guy that shows up once a week and takes care of it. I suggest you hire a guy :P

He is the guy :lol:

[Particle Man]

He is the guy :lol:

Truth :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

I have a guy that shows up once a week and takes care of it. I suggest you hire a guy :P

Yea well it'll give his wife something to do... Brown Chicken, Brown Cow!!!

[CrazyKell]

In this hot weather (I assume you're having a "heat wave" too since you're quite close to me) you'll have a much harder time keeping it clear. It could be that and the pollen.

Algicide okay?

[Mudpuppy]

when in doubt drain some water and add fresh.. sometimes you can overdo it with chemicals, etc. and you end up with a volatile chemical soup that now becomes even more of an issue because you have too many chemicals in play.. of course make sure your filter is clean.. if it is a cartridge get some good filter cleaner from the pool store, follow the directions (usually soak it overnight then let it dry in the sun before replacing) and then after 24 hours start to go to work on the cloudy issue.. if it is another type of filter how long has the media been in there? if in doubt get a pool company to come check it out.. and pool stores always do free water samples and some are better than others but remember they are there to sell chemicals so a lot of them will just have you chasing your tail adding hundreds of dollars of chemicals..

i ran several commercial public use inground pools and part of my normal routine was to drain some water and add fresh every couple of days.. that kept the pool in check for the most part.. then the rest was depending on usage - chemical amount, shocking, etc.

[Particle Man]

Choosing an inground pool cleaner is the best to remove all the dirt and debris of your swimming pool on regular basis. It also does the job within a considerable amount of time. There are 3 types of pool cleaners like manual, automatic and robotic cleaners. Choose the one which best suits to your pool. There are increase in chances of dirt accumulation collecting at the walls and floors of this in-ground swimming pool. This in turn may make your pool looks like muddy.

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Inground Pools (http://www.prestigepools.com.au)

Are you serious? Your 1st post is this? :lol

I smell :spam:

In this hot weather (I assume you're having a "heat wave" too since you're quite close to me) you'll have a much harder time keeping it clear. It could be that and the pollen.

Algicide okay?
Yeah, it really seems to be the pollen. Pretty much everyone around has been having issues with keeping their pool clear this year because of the crazy freakin' weather. It'll start to clear and then we'll get either a massive rain storm or it'll get so un-Godly hot with a crazy-high pollen count.

oh well. I'm chalking it up to a funky weather year.

[Cruzergirl]

Bummer about the pool. You've probably already thought about this but... I recently learned that you shouldn't shock the pool during the day (when its sunny). It is best done after the sun goes down. We had that problem in the SO's pool for a while (the friend who was caring for it didn't know this...).

Good luck...

[Mudpuppy]

depends on what kind of shock you use..

[Particle Man]

Bummer about the pool. You've probably already thought about this but... I recently learned that you shouldn't shock the pool during the day (when its sunny). It is best done after the sun goes down. We had that problem in the SO's pool for a while (the friend who was caring for it didn't know this...).

Good luck...yep, evenings after the sun goes down.

Lo and behold, it's clearing up now and nothing has changed

Damn weather.

[pauldun170]

Switch to saltwater.

[Mudpuppy]

and throw in some black piranha.. then invite the in laws over..

[Particle Man]

Switch to saltwater.

In upstate NY? :lol: right

[pauldun170]

In upstate NY? :lol: right3

There aren't anyplaces that can't do the switch for you?

A few people we know switched over this year. Pool co came, swapped out some filters\lines\in their system and did what they needed to do.

All I know is that it fucking rocks. Awesome to swim in and no more "treatments".
All theyv've had to do so far is scoop out the typical debris.

[Particle Man]

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There aren't anyplaces that can't do the switch for you?

A few people we know switched over this year. Pool co came, swapped out some filters\lines\in their system and did what they needed to do.

All I know is that it fucking rocks. Awesome to swim in and no more "treatments".
All theyv've had to do so far is scoop out the typical debris.

what about recovery in the spring after the snow? We use a Loop Loc cover so water/snow etc filters through.

[pauldun170]

what about recovery in the spring after the snow? We use a Loop Loc cover so water/snow etc filters through.

Salt doesn't go anywhere, however you have to make sure that the balance of whatever the fuck other stuff they put in it is good.
I'm not positive as I'm going off word of mouth so a google search would be more reliable than me running my mouth.

[askmrjesus]

:spam:

[goof2]

Installing inground pools can really help you to increase the value of your property and fetch you a better price when you are looking to sell the property in the future. In ground pools will have more value than on ground pools.

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Inground Pools (http://www.prestigepools.com.au)

How convenient that you have a link to a pool company in your signature.:lol

[Mikey]

How convenient that you have a link to a pool company in your signature.:lol

And a total of two posts, both of which are in this thread. ;)

[Evadd]

Installing inground pools can really help you to increase the value of your property and fetch you a better price when you are looking to sell the property in the future. In ground pools will have more value than on ground pools.

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ty not only for the spam, but also for being wrong. inground pools do NOT raise your property or resale value. they are a money pit. for someone who wants it, that's fine (i plan to have one when i buy), but someone shouldn't expect to get more (or even the same) out of it what you put into it.

now, :db: and gtfo.

[Particle Man]

Funny this thread came back up. It's clear as freakin' crystal right now and I haven't changed a thing. :lol:

[Rider]

I should delete the spam..... oh wait, I can't do that anymore. :lol

[OneSickPsycho]

ty not only for the spam, but also for being wrong. inground pools do NOT raise your property or resale value. they are a money pit. for someone who wants it, that's fine (i plan to have one when i buy), but someone shouldn't expect to get more (or even the same) out of it what you put into it.

now, :db: and gtfo.

Depends on where you live... In Florida it does raise your property value some, but in most places it won't.

No home improvement will yeild a 100%+ ROI... Pools just happen to be one of the lowest ROI's regardless of where you live. And really, owning a pool isn't all that expensive... building a pool on the other hand...

[Cutty72]

Pretty sure me having a pool would drop my prop value. Though I do get a nice wading pool in my back yard every spring :lol:

[Porkchop]

I remember at my parent's house we had an above ground but had green water for a while. Shit was perfect and I forgot what they did but I think they had to shock it and something else to fix it. Hell I kind of liked the green water.

My best friends family has an above ground that is a tad green right now. Its algae, but they are finding it real hard to get rid of. It just kind of falls to the bottom and is too far from the filter inlet.

DO I look psychic?? :lol Well water BLOWS! Stained the tile in the shower, the jacuzzi and everything else it touched. Landlord got us on city water, but the stench of sulfur still lingers in the pipes...nasty stuff. If she's using water conditioners could the levels be off? (that's assuming she has to top the water off occasionally)

We have well water... Its soft as fuck and never clouds even a wine glass. Maybe the landlord should.... change the sulfer and rust filters every 3-4 months??? :lol

[OneSickPsycho]

My best friends family has an above ground that is a tad green right now. Its algae, but they are finding it real hard to get rid of. It just kind of falls to the bottom and is too far from the filter inlet.



We have well water... Its soft as fuck and never clouds even a wine glass. Maybe the landlord should.... change the sulfer and rust filters every 3-4 months??? :lol

I do four steps...

1) Sweep it.
2) Shock it immediately after sweeping, with the pump running - allow pump to run overnight.
3) Run the vacuum the next day for about 6 hours (takes all the shit that settled to the bottom).
4) Run the pump as normal.

My shit's gotten pretty green real quick as I was having trouble keeping chlorine in it during a few weeks of retarded heat and no rain. That process kicked it's ass.

[Dave]

Just pee in it

[Particle Man]

My best friends family has an above ground that is a tad green right now. Its algae, but they are finding it real hard to get rid of. It just kind of falls to the bottom and is too far from the filter inlet.



We have well water... Its soft as fuck and never clouds even a wine glass. Maybe the landlord should.... change the sulfer and rust filters every 3-4 months??? :lol

Get the algaecide that's elemental copper. Algae goes away in like a day.

[Trip]

Sorry my bad, I come up to NY when you aren't there and poop in the pool.

yep still at it

[Rangerscott]

Just pee in it


That's what I do. It's sterile.

[Particle Man]

On my way to jump in the damn thing right now. It's HOT.

[Rangerscott]

Its a lovely 77F here.

[Particle Man]

Its a lovely 77F here.

87.

[Flexin]

87.

About 91 here.

James

[Evadd]

That's what I do. It's sterile.

sterile to YOU. the rest of us don't want your cooties.

[Particle Man]

About 91 here.

James

And now: 50. WTF.

[Evadd]

Inground pools are the great pools. Most inground pool designs are large enough to give you swimming space and even small inground pools will blend right into your patio for amazing pool parties. This type of pools will add value to your property. Inground pool prices are a little bit more as compared with the above ground pools.

why haven't you been banned yet?

[Mikey]

why haven't you been banned yet?

This.

[Sean]

Jason has disappeared and my pool is green with algae, mostly on the sun side. I put a bunch of chlorine tabs in there but I don't even own any good equipment to clean up the pool. What do I need to buy / do?

Funny I post this, I was a pool boy in high school, but that was a millennia ago.

[Particle Man]

Jason has disappeared and my pool is green with algae, mostly on the sun side. I put a bunch of chlorine tabs in there but I don't even own any good equipment to clean up the pool. What do I need to buy / do?

Funny I post this, I was a pool boy in high school, but that was a millennia ago.
Algaecide. Dump it in and wait for the algae to die and sink then vacuum. All better.

[Sean]

Guess I need to buy a vacuum...

[goof2]

Guess I need to buy a vacuum...

Is it a concrete (gunite) or plastic liner pool? Rounded or lots of sharp corners?

When you do the algaecide you will probably need to spread some liquid chlorine around the perimeter as well to activate the algaecide. Keep the pump running at least a couple hours, if not more, to distribute the chemicals in the water. Once the water clears up either vacuum the pool or, if one will work in your pool, get an automatic robot that will vacuum it for you. Once that is done if you have a paper element filter you should remove it and hose it out really well and check for tears. If you have a sand filter you should backwash it until the water coming out is clear. After that if you maintain the chlorine (most important) and PH levels it should stay clear for a while.