Guess where this Big UGLY Mother came from.

[Phenix_Rider]

Don't think I need to say much.

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Craziest part is, it's still holding air. I need a good tire gauge (and a wash, chain lube, and adjustment) before I ride it again, but I think the belts deflected the nail without letting it actually puncture. I couldn't get the licorice stick repair down through the path of the nail, but there's no hissing. I still plan to get new tires as soon as I can afford to, and before any long/fast rides. But at least I don't have to go out and buy cheap shit tires RIGHT NOW.

[pauldun170]

I wouldn't ride on it

[Particle Man]

Eff THAT :eek:

[derf]

Just throw some 2 part epoxy on it and it will be fine

[tommymac]

Swap that bugger out, I have some track takeoffs if need be for now.

[Gas Man]

Thru the side wall!! Not even my cheap ass would ride that!!!

[Amber Lamps]

Oh no not this debate again...:panic: OMG what is the worst case scenario here? He'll get a flat. That's it, there will be no sudden tire failures or what not. He is right, the belts obviously deflected the nail and it never pierced anything but the tread that gets worn off anyway. See if you can get some rubber cement in there just for the heck of it and ride on.:rockwoot:

[Phenix_Rider]

It's only through the rubber. Those angles don't show it, but where it came out the side is the same depth as the tread grooves. It did not penetrate any of the belts. I wouldn't do a long trip on it, or ride interstate, but I think it will be okay riding six miles at less than 55mph. Until I get a good tire gauge to track the pressure, I'm driving the truck to work. I should be able to get new tires with my next paycheck.

So where's a good place to get tires in Philly?
I know there was a great internet deal on Pirelli Angels, but I don't want to save $50 by buying online only to spend $100 to have them mounted.

[Rangerscott]

i would have left it.

[dReWpY]

jakewilson.com look the the multiple threads here, they are cheap as shit now

[marko138]

Yeowtch.

[Rangerscott]

Plug it you panzy.

[derf]

So where's a good place to get tires in Philly?
I know there was a great internet deal on Pirelli Angels, but I don't want to save $50 by buying online only to spend $100 to have them mounted.


Anywhere you buy tires here you will spend $$$ mounting them. I have gotten in the habit of taking both wheels off and dropping them off at the local shop, and $40 and an afternoon later they are mounted. if you take the wheels off the bike yourself it is cheaper than if you have them do it.

I've been using Mount Holley Powersport on rt38 in NJ. The last 2 times I had them change tires they did both wheels in under 30 minutes over my lunch break

[Rangerscott]

Look on craigslist. A bunch of people buy mounting equipment and will usually do it for you for a lot less money or a case of beer.

[Phenix_Rider]

Anywhere you buy tires here you will spend $$$ mounting them. I have gotten in the habit of taking both wheels off and dropping them off at the local shop, and $40 and an afternoon later they are mounted. if you take the wheels off the bike yourself it is cheaper than if you have them do it.

I've been using Mount Holley Powersport on rt38 in NJ. The last 2 times I had them change tires they did both wheels in under 30 minutes over my lunch break

Yeah, there's no way I'd let anyone take the wheels off my bike. I HATE letting them mount tires, and if I had the money, I'd buy a machine to do it myself.

[tommymac]

Yeah, there's no way I'd let anyone take the wheels off my bike. I HATE letting them mount tires, and if I had the money, I'd buy a machine to do it myself.

if youre up for a road trip LMK got a no mar machine and stands ;)

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah, there's no way I'd let anyone take the wheels off my bike. I HATE letting them mount tires, and if I had the money, I'd buy a machine to do it myself.

under $100 at Harbor Freight, another $30 for Mojo blocks and you'll never pay someone else to change your tire again.

[marko138]

under $100 at Harbor Freight, another $30 for Mojo blocks and you'll never pay someone else to change your tire again.
Thats quite a deal. Especially since no one but me could scratch my wheels. Thats my biggest fear with letting someone else do it.

[Amber Lamps]

Thats quite a deal. Especially since no one but me could scratch my wheels. Thats my biggest fear with letting someone else do it.

Well, I have had dealerships scratch my wheels so....

[Gas Man]

Man I need to get the tire machine. Could bolt it right to the lift when needed and into rafter when not. Hmmmm. I will need a new rear this year. AL, post up the links again. I may hv to get ordering.

[Rangerscott]

You don't want to use the HF tire changer right out of the box. Let me find the website where a guy added non-scratching stuff to his.


Well crap. I think I found the link, but most of the pics are gone. The guy just bought some of the pastic type cutting boards and made pieces to fit on the tire changer anywhere it would touch the rim. You put pieces on the rim holders and a flat piece down on the bead breaker.


*edit*

Found it cause I'm awesome.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273223

[Amber Lamps]

You don't want to use the HF tire changer right out of the box. Let me find the website where a guy added non-scratching stuff to his.

You can find it here, I did a large write up, posted videos detailing the mods necessary to make the changer scratch proof. Very easy, very cheap.

[Rangerscott]

You can find it here, I did a large write up, posted videos detailing the mods necessary to make the changer scratch proof. Very easy, very cheap.

Don't talk to me, Mr I dont want to buy your crap.

[Amber Lamps]

Don't talk to me, Mr I dont want to buy your crap.

Oh yea? Mr I want as much as they are going for on line for a used unit...:lol:
"They are selling on Amazon for $250, so that's what I want for mine...":wink:

[Rangerscott]

Oh yea? Mr I want as much as they are going for on line for a used unit...:lol:
"They are selling on Amazon for $250, so that's what I want for mine...":wink:

Different model dip and it wasnt used.

[azoomm]

Getting just about any changer is a good idea - but getting a No-Mar bar to use with it is a better idea. They're the best and won't fuck up your rims...

[Rangerscott]

I will be getting me this when I'm do for a tire change. Last time with me bringing the wheels and tires in, the cheapest was $60 and it didn't take them more than 10 minutes to do it. Now with two bikes that's $120 I can spend on a new tire.







































I love you tigger.

[Phenix_Rider]

if youre up for a road trip LMK got a no mar machine and stands ;)

Got a grill? :lol:

I'll take you up on that offer, but have to wait till closer to next payday (the 10th) to order. Jake Wilson has free shipping and $220 for the set.

[Amber Lamps]

Different model dip and it wasnt used.

Not!
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?omid=113&ref=dealtime&utm_id=9&utm_source=Dealtime&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GRNUVI885T&sku=GRNUVI885T

It was $249 I swear but at $267 with free shipping, close.

[The Awesome]

Oh no not this debate again...:panic: OMG what is the worst case scenario here? He'll get a flat. That's it, there will be no sudden tire failures or what not.

Have you ever gotten a flat while riding? I have, and it's not a lot of fun when you tip it into a corner and the rear tire tries to pass the front. I don't know about you, but I won't chance hitting the deck over a tire that won't hold air, especially if I know ahead of time that the tire is suspect. We can file that one under "stupid hurts".

[Amber Lamps]

Have you ever gotten a flat while riding? I have, and it's not a lot of fun when you tip it into a corner and the rear tire tries to pass the front. I don't know about you, but I won't chance hitting the deck over a tire that won't hold air, especially if I know ahead of time that the tire is suspect. We can file that one under "stupid hurts".

Um no, I've been riding for almost 30 years but I've never had a flat tire.....:lol: I can tell when my tire is 5 lbs low, well before this flat induced accident you describe. In my experience, sport bike tires tend to go flat once parked, I have theories but that has been my experience. I don't care if he throws his money away... His tire never lost air in the first place so your argument is actually quite stupid.

Maybe you should throw a tire away every time it gets dirty, runs over a rock, etc as well... who knows? Why take the chance? I mean now you've really gone off the deep end in tire paranoia. The tire was never punctured. Have you never run a tire down to the threads? Did it suddenly explode as soon as you touched them with the road?

Seriously guys, I've had people on this board caution me against tire explosions if the pressure is 2 lbs higher than they "think" it should be. Now if the outer tread is at all damaged, you'll run the risk of a catastrophic failure!!! I am SO glad that tires aren't as fragile as some of you believe! Get on YouTube and watch a video on how tires are made. You may learn something and may even be able to put aside some of your fears... Besides, "Mr Awesome", he's not scrapping his pegs through the Gap on a super sport machine, he's riding his Ninja 650 back and forth to work. Yeesh!

[tommymac]

Got a grill? :lol:

I'll take you up on that offer, but have to wait till closer to next payday (the 10th) to order. Jake Wilson has free shipping and $220 for the set.

A grill a pool and good beer in the fridge, you know I dont funk around :lol:

[Phenix_Rider]

A grill a pool and good beer in the fridge, you know I dont funk around :lol:

:rofl: My gf might try to ditch me for you.

[Amber Lamps]

:rofl: My gf might try to ditch me for you.

Well who wouldn't? That Tommy is one sexy beast!!! All bs aside bro, take it easy and keep an eye on it but I honestly think that you'll be alright.

[Gas Man]

You can find it here, I did a large write up, posted videos detailing the mods necessary to make the changer scratch proof. Very easy, very cheap.
Link to your thread?

[Amber Lamps]

Link to your thread?

Here ya go, you posted in it btw... Lots of chatter but some good info as well.

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=9228&highlight=harbor+freight

[Gas Man]

Yeah I found it... but wasn't sure if that was the same thing you were talking about.

So you bought this
http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcycle-tire-changer-attachment-42927.html

Then did the little plastic piece mods to it.

Which bar are you running?

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah I found it... but wasn't sure if that was the same thing you were talking about.

So you bought this
http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcycle-tire-changer-attachment-42927.html

Then did the little plastic piece mods to it.

Which bar are you running?

stock bar with some mods detailed in the thread. it works great, no scratches.

[Rangerscott]

Tigger. You're Mr. Awesome you sexy beast you. I always say that tires are over priced. Are they? I mean with them being mostly synthetic material and a lot less rubber than they used to be (saw it on a WWII history show so I'm now a tire expert by the way), you'd think they would be cheaper.

[Gas Man]

But tt is the part right lon? Only $60?

I think bolting it to the lift will work great. Then I can have it at either ground level or raised up. Of coarse will need to position it so u can use it and still have a bike on the lift. Ya know the one missing a rim or two.

[Cutty72]

Getting just about any changer is a good idea - but getting a No-Mar bar to use with it is a better idea. They're the best and won't fuck up your rims...

Anyone used or seen in person the cycle hill changer?
Supposed to be made by no-mar, but cheaper. Like the "economy" version of a no-mar.
http://www.cyclehill-tirechanger-secure.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1

I'm trying to decide what I want to do, since the Jap dealers won't touch buell rims, and the buell dealer is 90 miles away, it's a 3 day turn around if they pick up and deliver...

[Amber Lamps]

But tt is the part right lon? Only $60?

I think bolting it to the lift will work great. Then I can have it at either ground level or raised up. Of coarse will need to position it so u can use it and still have a bike on the lift. Ya know the one missing a rim or two.

Yep, that's the one. It's the top part only without the bead breaker, stand, etc...

[Amber Lamps]

Anyone used or seen in person the cycle hill changer?
Supposed to be made by no-mar, but cheaper. Like the "economy" version of a no-mar.
http://www.cyclehill-tirechanger-secure.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1

I'm trying to decide what I want to do, since the Jap dealers won't touch buell rims, and the buell dealer is 90 miles away, it's a 3 day turn around if they pick up and deliver...

Pretty cool! Still almost $600 for the whole kit....

[Gas Man]

Yep, that's the one. It's the top part only without the bead breaker, stand, etc...

So you get that and then modify it so it dont scratch.

Pretty cool! Still almost $600 for the whole kit....

Exactly... i'm trying to save money!

[Cutty72]

Yep, that's the one. It's the top part only without the bead breaker, stand, etc...
Pretty cool! Still almost $600 for the whole kit....

Yeah, but better than the $900 + for a nomar. and if you just get the changer it's less.

So, what do you do for breaking the bead then AL? and I'm guessing you just made your own stand then?

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah, but better than the $900 + for a nomar. and if you just get the changer it's less.

So, what do you do for breaking the bead then AL? and I'm guessing you just made your own stand then?

Huh? Oh no, here's the set-up.

Tire Changer $49
Motorcycle kit $59
Balancer $59
Tire Iron $6
Rim Savers $15
Mojo Blocks $30

I got 20% off the HF stuff, so I have maybe $200 total involved on everything. Well worth it and I have zero scratches.

[Gas Man]

So you do need both the top (tire changer) and the bottom (bead breaker).

[Amber Lamps]

So you do need both the top (tire changer) and the bottom (bead breaker).

Yes, the bottom is a tire changer for regular tires and the top is an adapter so you can change mc tires. I'm sure that you could come up with something for the stand and bead breakers are sold separately but for $49, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just buy theirs...:idk:

[Gas Man]

Post a pic of your setup again

[Amber Lamps]

The first pic in post#46 is my exact set up or if you go to the thread, there are pics of my set up and bar mods... yeesh , Chris. ;)

[Gas Man]

i'm going thursday to look at them at HF

[Cutty72]

i'm going thursday to look at them at HF

I'm gonna guess my HF does not stock them... Order will be my only option.

[Gas Man]

I went and looked at it... but I'm seriously debating this towards the negative. $120 basically OTD. At $30 a tire to swap them out at the little shop with no balenceing which isn't an issue cause I use beads ($45 at HD with balence). That is 4 tire changes I need to break even. Not including I need to modify the unit to use it, and store teh 75# beast somewhere.

So 4 tire changes...
18months riding change rear $30
18months riding change front & rear $60
18months riding change rear $30
=$120 & almost 5 yrs to break even.

Could shorten it by charging buds to do it. (I usually only do 1 maybe 2 a year). Plus the "what if" I scratch up a rim or something stupid. IDK...

[Amber Lamps]

Yea maybe not for you then... in 18 months I've done at least two fronts and three to five rears... they want $30 per tire here off the bike so easy math for me. Oh and don't forget to bring the 20% off coupons...

[Gas Man]

I cant' find a 20% off coupon.

Plus the bottom was already 17% ($10) off. down to $50

Yeah I don't change tires often... but hell why are you?

[Rangerscott]

They will usually stack coupons. You can google a 20% coupon. It wont scan but if the person is cool theyll take it.

[Amber Lamps]

I cant' find a 20% off coupon.

Plus the bottom was already 17% ($10) off. down to $50

Yeah I don't change tires often... but hell why are you?

5000 on a rear maybe...:lol:

[goof2]

I cant' find a 20% off coupon.

Plus the bottom was already 17% ($10) off. down to $50

Yeah I don't change tires often... but hell why are you?

Go to a store and look in the back 20 pages or so of Motorcyclist magazine. They were putting one in there for a while. Buying a $5 magazine to save $20+ is a fair trade. You should have also seen if they had any copies of their monthly sale circular in the store when you were there. They have also been putting one on the front page for a while.

[Cutty72]

I cant' find a 20% off coupon.

Plus the bottom was already 17% ($10) off. down to $50

Yeah I don't change tires often... but hell why are you?

5000 on a rear maybe...:lol:

True story.

Got 3k on my corsa III's

I've got almost 4k on my PP's, should get 4500-5k.

Thinking I'm going road 2's next, I can't afford all the tires!

So Gas... in your infinite wrenching wisdom. For a guy changing rubber enough to make purchasing a changer worth while, what the HF rig quality enough or no?

[Gas Man]

Well its hf. Tt shud be nuff said on quality. It will do the trick but its not a "no mar". The metal rim clamps, metal bead brake are all obviously needed mods. But that has been stated already.

My biggest issue. Its rather large and heavy (~75#). and unlike my sportbike friends here. I have 11k on my rear tire now. I fully expect to do another k or 2 on it. Not bald yet, gettin close though.

So do the math for me. I just don't think its worth it. Even if I understand what ur all saying on finding the 20% off coupon. Plus as wifey said, look at a small price to keep up relations and biz with local shop. Going today to check with small local shop tt usually does my mounting. See what prices he has on a new rear with mounting. I will normally even pay slightly more to help the local guy.

I 90% closed on not getting a changer.

[tommymac]

I can see it for chris no tneeding one that is. For me my no mar set up has already paid for itself, figure the track bike get tires swapped after 4 or 5 days now, plus owning 2 streetbikes and having a few friends in similar situations who like getting free tire changes and can watch me swear and throw stuff its all worth it :lol:

[marko138]

Well its hf. Tt shud be nuff said on quality. It will do the trick but its not a "no mar". The metal rim clamps, metal bead brake are all obviously needed mods. But that has been stated already.

My biggest issue. Its rather large and heavy (~75#). and unlike my sportbike friends here. I have 11k on my rear tire now. I fully expect to do another k or 2 on it. Not bald yet, gettin close though.

So do the math for me. I just don't think its worth it. Even if I understand what ur all saying on finding the 20% off coupon. Plus as wifey said, look at a small price to keep up relations and biz with local shop. Going today to check with small local shop tt usually does my mounting. See what prices he has on a new rear with mounting. I will normally even pay slightly more to help the local guy.

I 90% closed on not getting a changer.


I've got a pile of the 20% coupons. I'll mail you one if you want.

[Gas Man]

Don't worry about it Marko... thanks anyway!!

I need a new rear tire. That has been stated and why I was looking into it. But I found a much BETTER alternative. Thank you God for HD.

I did some homework before hand... nearly every site online doesn't carry my replacement size in the HD Dunlop D407 series. I want to stick with OE because there is no benifit to switching. From what I have read the other alternatives offer no added milage or added grip (not that I've ever had a problem, my dunlops do great in rain clear up to 90mph). They are such a slight difference in price it's not worth it.

A small shop near my house can get my HD tire for $210 instead of dealer $241.

However... I checked with the dealer on the HD Wheel & Tire Warrenty program.
3yrs = $400
4yrs= $450
5yrs= $500

Covers all labor (read: wheels on bike), only replace with HD OE tires, no worries about out dated tires, and good at ANY HD dealer (HD program). It covers any nails, blow outs, pot holes, etc. Covers both rims and tires.

You have to have 3/32 of tread for replacement. So I guess I have bad luck with nails every 6,000-8,000 miles... At $300 (wheel off the bike) per rear wheel it won't take long to get my money back. That is for sure.

The only catch, with a used bike. You have to purchase 1 new HD tire (since mine is bald that works for me) to get warrenty.

So...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Lift%20Wrenching/SU1HMDAwOTMuanBn.jpg

The last tire I'll ever buy for my Ultra will be on this Sat.

PS: Took me a whole 20 mins to drop that wheel off the bike.

[Gas Man]

Bam a lam

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Lift%20Wrenching/SU1HMDAwOTUuanBn.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Lift%20Wrenching/SU1HMDAwOTYuanBn.jpg


More info on the protection.

No deductable
No max # of replacements
Reimbursement for and up to

Rental $500
Towing $150
Lodging & Meal $300


Simply awesome.