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CrazyKell
07-05-2010, 04:01 PM
Just wondering how many ladies do their own maintenance (anything from basic to more advanced).

I'm writing an article on learning how to do some basic things and am just looking to get some perspective on the issue.

Personally, I'm very mechanically challenged and it's been a real struggle for me to learning anything. It's not that I don't want to, it's that, well, you don't know what you don't know. Slowly I'm learning though.

Any thoughts?

CrazyKell
07-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Just thought about something. This might come off as excluding men.

I don't necessarily mean to exclude men, the article is being written for a female audience though and the editor wants comments from females in it.

I'd be interested to hear men's comments as well. Sorry about that.

derf
07-05-2010, 04:09 PM
buy a clymer or haynes manual and one of the 150 piece tool kits from sears. You can do almost anything you want to a bike with that combination. Some stuff will require specialty tools, but those will come as you need them.

azoomm
07-05-2010, 05:00 PM
buy a clymer or haynes manual and one of the 150 piece tool kits from sears. You can do almost anything you want to a bike with that combination. Some stuff will require specialty tools, but those will come as you need them.

Perhaps. Though the one thing that holds back [most] women is the strength to turn the wrench on many of the bolts, or even an oil filter.

Manual IS a critical item.
Breaker bar
Torque wrench

I'm also a big fan of the right tools for the job. No one should ever feel they need to run out and buy every tool out there from the beginning. Tool collections are best accumulated as needed. And, buy the best tools you can for your budget - Craftsman, SnapOn, similar are my favorites as they will replace tools if/when broken. Therefore, they are the best for the long term.

I started with the above, a simple set of metric sockets, wrenches and screw drivers. From that, I bought tools as the job required. Yes, I believe that anyone can work on their own motor. It does take a bit of common sense, and patience. Learn to not be afraid to ask questions through the process and when to walk away. It can be very humbling when you miss one very simple and sometimes obvious step in any maintenance routine.

I know many women that do their own work - we have started clinics here in Austin at two of the dealerships to get women more involved. I think it never occurred to them as an idea to work on their own. They all got started by seeing others involved.

derf
07-05-2010, 05:39 PM
Perhaps. Though the one thing that holds back [most] women is the strength to turn the wrench on many of the bolts, or even an oil filter.




Anyone can unscrew the tightest oil filter, even if it is locked on there, with the right tool. A good oil filter tool or just stab it with a screw driver will work every time

gavilan
07-05-2010, 06:09 PM
I started out just 'helping' some of my friends and learning. With time I ended up doing a lots of things on my bike. I love wrenching and I love being able to fix issues. It does help to have someone to ask if you get into a tight spot or if you need that extra muscle. lol

I agree with Zoomie: you need the right tools, the manual and patience.

dReWpY
07-05-2010, 06:19 PM
Every mc owner should read zen and the art of motorcycle maintence

Cutty72
07-05-2010, 06:49 PM
The gf does her own, with my supervision and muscle as needed.

It was a lot harder for me to slow down and TEACH than it was for her to learn it!

HokieDNA01
07-05-2010, 10:16 PM
I do my own basics, oil, removing wheels for tire swaps etc. Hoping to learn more and gain more confidence tackling things.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/HokieDNA01/P3290280.jpg

racedoll
07-05-2010, 10:43 PM
The gf does her own, with my supervision and muscle as needed.

Same here - I do the work but Erik supervises and helps with those stubborn bolts. I also have a service manual, from Kawasaki (not an "aftermarket" one).

I had to buy one special tool, a 22mm hex head socket for my front axle. I could only get from Snap On so it was an arm and a leg, but is better than rigging up something like we did the first time I took the front wheel off.

A lot of people (I work with) are surprised that I work on my own bike (car too). I take pride in knowing about the bike or car that I'm operating. I may not know as much as someone else, but I know more than some.

Gas Man
07-06-2010, 12:11 AM
Same goes for Uma as Cutty said...

Here's Uma puttin on her highway bar
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Sportster/Highway%20Bar/Highwaybar008.jpg

Puttin on her windshield and hardware
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Sportster/Mods/Windshield002.jpg

proper work attire for winter time mods
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Sportster/TnT/TT013.jpg

Buttoning up the wiring up for her new tach
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Sportster/TnT/TT016.jpg

Hell she changed the oil in the TBSS the other month because she wanted to.

Gas Man
07-06-2010, 12:12 AM
There is no reason why it can't be done. I generally just explain what to do and why. She goes along and does it.

CrazyKell
07-06-2010, 08:48 AM
Thanks for the insight everyone.

I'm one of those people that has never really worked on my own bike. Of course there are a variety of reasons (no garage and no tools), but I'm slowly rectifying it and doing things little by little. Hell it was a big accomplishment for me to change my coolant out! :lmao:

Not sure which way I'm going to go with this article yet but I appreciate the help!

derf
07-06-2010, 08:52 AM
Got any more pictures of your wife? :)

marko138
07-06-2010, 09:25 AM
Every mc owner should read zen and the art of motorcycle maintence

That books SUCKS.

derf
07-06-2010, 09:30 AM
That books SUCKS.

Yeh, some of us cant read the small print

marko138
07-06-2010, 09:31 AM
Yeh, some of us cant read the small print
It's not even about MC maintenance.

lauralynne
07-06-2010, 10:07 AM
mostly. I CAN do all of it - down to building from frame up - but Louie is there to help with questions (and google is if he's not). I'm fortunate to have the space, time, and tools.

newB45
07-06-2010, 11:10 AM
Every mc owner should read zen and the art of motorcycle maintence

Good book just kinda hard to get through. I own it and it took forever for me to read. But I also have both twist of the wrists and another one that i for some reason I can't remember.

Oh and I can change oil and do a few other simple things. But I think I'm going to find a friend to teach me other stuff once I get my bike.

Dave
07-06-2010, 11:11 AM
Same here - I do the work but Erik supervises and helps with those stubborn bolts. I also have a service manual, from Kawasaki (not an "aftermarket" one).

I had to buy one special tool, a 22mm hex head socket for my front axle. I could only get from Snap On so it was an arm and a leg, but is better than rigging up something like we did the first time I took the front wheel off.

A lot of people (I work with) are surprised that I work on my own bike (car too). I take pride in knowing about the bike or car that I'm operating. I may not know as much as someone else, but I know more than some.

Kawi toolkits come incomplete? The 954's kit is excellent though I've added hemostats and a razor boxcutter to it

Cass
07-06-2010, 01:49 PM
With the time/tools/guidance (either from a book or a human), I don't mind it at all... and kinda enjoy it. Without the time, I just take it to a shop, and realize that I am paying for the time/convenience factor.

Amber Lamps
07-06-2010, 04:05 PM
I do my own basics, oil, removing wheels for tire swaps etc. Hoping to learn more and gain more confidence tackling things.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/HokieDNA01/P3290280.jpg

Hey are you losing weight? I noticed that you looked pretty good in your avy and again here... BTW they sell chain breakers for $12...:lol: I know a lot of people grind them but imho it's easier and safer to use a breaking tool.

Amber Lamps
07-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Kawi toolkits come incomplete? The 954's kit is excellent though I've added hemostats and a razor boxcutter to it

We don't need to know about your roach clip and coke cutter buddy!:lol:

the chi
07-06-2010, 04:21 PM
If I have the spare time, I do my own. I dont mind using the internet, utilizing friends knowledge and getting the wrench time and I really enjoy getting my hands dirty. I've got my own tools, and learned to fabricate at least one (to use on the engine mount bolt).

If I dont have time, I have a Father in Law that can fix anything. And if I have to take it to the shop, I try to do a thorough once over as they always seem to tweak things they shouldnt. Like brakes. And levers. And chains. :lol:

racedoll
07-06-2010, 05:31 PM
Kawi toolkits come incomplete? The 954's kit is excellent though I've added hemostats and a razor boxcutter to it

Apparently so because there was nothing in there that would even come close to working. I've added the necessarily nail file to my kit :lol:

dReWpY
07-06-2010, 05:34 PM
Good book just kinda hard to get through. I own it and it took forever for me to read. But I also have both twist of the wrists and another one that i for some reason I can't remember.

Oh and I can change oil and do a few other simple things. But I think I'm going to find a friend to teach me other stuff once I get my bike.

what part of Tn Region dO you Live in? Like the plateau region?

Dave
07-06-2010, 05:45 PM
We don't need to know about your roach clip and coke cutter buddy!:lol:

What? Never accidentally drop a screw down a velocity stack? Or needed smaller fingers to grip something? Hemostats are a great addition to any toolkit lol

Sixxxxer
07-06-2010, 06:41 PM
Am I the only one who thought about Maintenance not related to Bikes?? ;)

Trip
07-06-2010, 07:39 PM
Am I the only one who thought about Maintenance not related to Bikes?? ;)

Yes, because you are a soulless ginger.

Tsunami
07-06-2010, 08:14 PM
I haven't had to do too much, so I can do very basic maintenance on my own with a manual and some borrowed muscle if needed and lots and lots of time since it takes me a while to figure it out. Mostly just oil changes, clean/lube chain, basic mods likes lights, fenders etc. I'm sure as I have the SV longer, more will need to be done to it, such as suspension etc, but I am sure I can get friends to help. I just have a basic tool/socket set from walmart but will purchase tools as needed.

When I was going to put on my frame sliders, my friend offered to help. So he came over and he realized that I don't have the tools for it. He gave me the tools that he had and I couldn't loosen the bolts :lol:

I haven't needed to bring my bike yet into a shop.

Sixxxxer
07-06-2010, 09:00 PM
Yes, because you are a soulless ginger.


Better than to be a cock raving douchebag i guess

Cruzergirl
07-06-2010, 09:07 PM
Don't do my own motorcycle maintenance. Never have. Don't plan on starting. I have never had an interest in it.

Looks like I'm in the minority here.

Rangerscott
07-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Just thought about something. This might come off as excluding men.

I don't necessarily mean to exclude men, the article is being written for a female audience though and the editor wants comments from females in it.

I'd be interested to hear men's comments as well. Sorry about that.


You meant it you man hater.


I do all my own work unless I absolutely need a special tool.

OTB
07-06-2010, 11:25 PM
Went to do a coaching session with a lady on Sat. She went to start the bike...nothing. Battery dead (8 yrs old.....)

Turned it into a learning session. Handed her the tools and showed her how to remove the battery, went over the charging system components. Sent her off to Battery Warehouse and then let her install it and button the bike back up.

The look on her face when she turned the key and the bike started up was PRICELESS. She actually thanked me for showing and letting her do it on her own...she had a great sense of accomplishment and she said that it made the bike "hers" rather than just a thing and it was much less intimidating than she thought.

The next day we had a one hour ride and she was MUCH more confidant. Knowledge is power.

I'd be interested in seeing your article and providing links to it...many of the folks I run into are completely baffled by anything other than putting gas in the tank.

Gas Man
07-07-2010, 07:27 PM
Got any more pictures of your wife? :)

I may but the better question is... Do you?

derf
07-07-2010, 11:35 PM
I may but the better question is... Do you?

Hold on, let me check

Archren
07-07-2010, 11:52 PM
I do small, routine maintenance. Oil changes, tire changes (provided I have the right tools.. which currently, I do not. :( ), I have swapped out rectifiers, soldered on a new connector (also related to the rectifier), swapped coolant, changed spark plugs... but never done a major overhaul on a bike. I need and want to learn so I can rebuild my Blast... I just hope I can put it back together being that I wasn't the one who took it apart. :panic:

Amber Lamps
07-08-2010, 02:12 AM
I do small, routine maintenance. Oil changes, tire changes (provided I have the right tools.. which currently, I do not. :( ), I have swapped out rectifiers, soldered on a new connector (also related to the rectifier), swapped coolant, changed spark plugs... but never done a major overhaul on a bike. I need and want to learn so I can rebuild my Blast... I just hope I can put it back together being that I wasn't the one who took it apart. :panic:

Are you kidding? Tracey can show you how, the guy built a Ducati from the ground up for you just a couple months ago! I doubt that there's anyone short of Gas Man or Eric more qualified to teach someone how to work on bikes. That's guy's a mechanical genius almost. I'm sure that you'll be fine! besides, even I could put a Blast back together, they are a very simple bike from what I've seen. Actually, that sounds like a perfect bike to learn on imho, I'm sure you and Tracey will have it back together in no time!!!:rockwoot:

Gas Man
07-08-2010, 08:47 AM
Hold on, let me check
So do you? Come on I need a few more...

Dave
07-08-2010, 01:04 PM
Are you kidding? Tracey can show you how, the guy built a Ducati from the ground up for you just a couple months ago! I doubt that there's anyone short of Gas Man or Eric more qualified to teach someone how to work on bikes. That's guy's a mechanical genius almost. I'm sure that you'll be fine! besides, even I could put a Blast back together, they are a very simple bike from what I've seen. Actually, that sounds like a perfect bike to learn on imho, I'm sure you and Tracey will have it back together in no time!!!:rockwoot:

Thing has what? Five moving parts? Oughtta be easy.

I'm dying to jump into my own ground up vtwin build. Just as soon as I've got the cash for a new frame and tank

skiergirl
07-08-2010, 01:24 PM
I can do the basics but frankly I do not enjoy it at all. I'd much prefer to just pay someone else to do it and just have it ready to ride when I want.

Tye can do much more than I can and has taught me a lot, I try to do some and just have him help me but he'd usually rather just do it for me than try to show me how..:) he has about as much patience as I do..

Rangerscott
07-08-2010, 10:21 PM
I can do the basics but frankly I do not enjoy it at all. I'd much prefer to just pay someone else to do it and just have it ready to ride when I want.

Tye can do much more than I can and has taught me a lot, I try to do some and just have him help me but he'd usually rather just do it for me than try to show me how..:) he has about as much patience as I do..

Laziness wins again.

I had to pop the head off my vehicle's engine to replace the gasket. I didn't get done till 4am and it was cold enough to snow. That was finding the parts, pulling everything attached to the head, pulling the head, scraping all the gasket material off, cleaning the radiator out, flushing the engine, replacing the gasket, torquing the head, setting valve clearances, attaching everything back to the head, putting back on the cooling system, filling the coolant system with water so cold it made my Willy an inny, then flushing the coolant system several more times. Running the engine to make sure nothing is leaking. Letting it cool back down, running it again. Flush the coolant system of all garden hose water. Fill back up with 50/50. Running engine again to burp the system. Pick up the winters that feel off from the cold 2 hours ago. Go inside and pass out for 3 hours and then head to work. Done. I'm awesome. Hear me roar. This isn't even the most mechanical thing I've done. I'm so much better than you......cause I'm a man. Don't get mad. It's your nature to not want to do anything for yourself.



Any ways. I find it fun to work on stuff, but it sure can get frustrating to do sometimes. I rebuilt the front end on my 4x4 axle and it is such a time consuming and messy messy job. I'd rather rebuild another engine and not have to right tools than to do it again. My wheels are still on so that's good.


P.S. I'd love to work on your bike for you Skiergirl. :wink:

skiergirl
07-08-2010, 10:46 PM
If I could have my way id be like a professional racer, show up my people would already have my bike serviced, running and ready to go so I could just hop on and ride. When I'm done id ride up hand it to the pit crew and walk away until time to ride again :)

that's my dream for when I'm rich anyway haha. I really don't have the patience or inclination to do anything more than is required to keep it maintained and running so Rangerscott feel fre to come by anytime and work on it for me. I hate doing that shit.

Rangerscott
07-08-2010, 11:03 PM
Brownie points for me. Of course it's more fun when you're doing something to make your bike/vehicle better. Maintenance or fixing can bring the suck.

Gas Man
07-08-2010, 11:53 PM
For me. Here's the thing. Doing maintance is fine. Modding a bike is cool. But having to work on it cause its broke and won't work is m'f'in suck my ballz.

azoomm
07-09-2010, 12:01 AM
For me. Here's the thing. Doing maintance is fine. Modding a bike is cool. But having to work on it cause its broke and won't work is m'f'in suck my ballz.

Quoted for absolute truth.

I don't mind working on motors [car, bike, truck, scooter, lawnmower, blah blah]. I hate HAVING to work on motors :lol: It's the pain-in-the-ass-factor. If the PITAF is too high, I'll just pay someone.

Gas Man
07-09-2010, 12:11 AM
Yep. Tt all also incudes HAVING to work on car/bike to get to work, miss a cool ride, miss the only good day all week, or spend money fixing failures tt u cud hv spent on cooler stuff.

All of which. Why I now own a hd instead of chopper.

marko138
07-09-2010, 07:53 AM
I hate working on anything. Bikes, cars, house. I only do it b/c shop labor is expensive, but I'd much rather pay someone to do it.

Gas Man
07-09-2010, 10:41 AM
So basically you're a cheap ass?

marko138
07-09-2010, 11:01 AM
So basically you're a cheap ass?
No, if I had the money I'd pay.

Gas Man
07-09-2010, 11:05 AM
No, if I had the money I'd pay.
Isn't that how it always is for most of us!!!

z06boy
07-09-2010, 11:38 AM
Just bought 8 NGK CR9EK plugs for the bikes...$47 shipped to the house...guess that's about as good as I was going to find.

Now looking for a decent deal on two air filters.

I do all of the maintenance on the vehicles...3 cars...two bikes and a boat and the wife handles mucho other stuff around the house.

I did show her how to clean and lube the chain on her bike a while back. :lol:

gavilan
07-09-2010, 04:03 PM
I have the carb block of a 93 Nighthawk that I pulled off a couple of months ago because I was going to tear it apart, clean the carbs and rebuild the thing...

Darn block was sitting in my office for a few weeks, traveling in my car everywhere with me for a couple more, went back to the office (we have a lab with a bunch of tools I thought I could use), back to the car and now it's been sitting in my garage at home for... a while.

I SO have to get to it but what originally discouraged me was that I stripped a couple of screws, ran to get a tapping set and got out most of them, but two screws ended up with pieces of taps in them, still pretty much attached to the block -thankyouverymuch. :doh:

I know it's not going to be a big deal once I finally sit down and do it but it's just gotten to the point where I am just *dreading* it. :cry:

This weekend... I am sure... well... we'll see... lol

Of course, after I am done with that, the question will be whether after all this time I actually remember how to put them back and attach everything else, but I guess I'll solve that issue when I get to it :scared:
(I did take some pictures of some things that I took apart and thought 'uh-oh, looks complicated...' :lol: )

Ah... the joy of working on an old(er) bike... :p

racedoll
07-09-2010, 05:10 PM
Just bought 8 NGK CR9EK plugs for the bikes...$47 shipped to the house...guess that's about as good as I was going to find.


I think I have 4 of those brand new in a drawer in the garage that I can't use.

Rangerscott
07-09-2010, 07:27 PM
I think I have 4 of those brand new in a drawer in the garage that I can't use.

Copper or Iridium tip?

racedoll
07-09-2010, 09:20 PM
Copper or Iridium tip?

They are just the standard tip. - http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/motorcycles/step4.asp?id=1690&type=reg

And I'll change my avatar since you seem to be offended. :lol:

Amber Lamps
07-09-2010, 09:21 PM
They are just the standard tip.

And I'll change my avatar since you seem to be offended. :lol:

More like jealous!!!:lol: BA-ZING!!!

Rangerscott
07-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Hey hey. Rules are rules. No Cooter flashing allowed.

So just the tip huh. Sounds like a fun game.