Welcome to Michigan Driving

[Gas Man]

Ya know... ever since my bud Marko from PA came into town back in Feb. I sometimes think about how his wife commented about our driving in Michigan. Now granted I was driving with them during non rush hour traffic times and not in the crazy busy areas.

On my way to work this morning I was laughing at what was around me in the left lane. I had an easy 4 vechicles behind me in the distance of what SHOULD only be 1. Same really goes for in front of me. We're all rolling at about 80mph right on top of each other.

So I took a pic of my rear view, no law against that, just texting. LOL

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Misc/SU1HMDAwOTkuanBn.jpg

Not the best angle... the cars had moved. But you can see the shadows easily... we are all damn near glued to each others bumps... normal to use... extreme tail gating to most others...

LOL...

I've always said, if you can drive in michigan you can drive anywhere.

[OneSickPsycho]

It's like that here too...

[CrazyKell]

I think it's like that everywhere. Can't stand tailgaters though.

It's illegal to text but you can still use your phone?

Here it's illegal to use handheld devices (no matter what you're doing).

[Particle Man]

Atlanta is worse. Far worse.

Scarily so.

Eff Atlanta traffic.

[tached1000rr]

Atlanta is worse. Far worse.

Scarily so.

Eff Atlanta traffic.

I agree.....

[CrazyKell]

I'm going to Michigan next week!

[Homeslice]

Aren't you in the right lane?

[Riceaholic]

Atlanta is worse. Far worse.

Scarily so.

Eff Atlanta traffic.

I liked it when I lived there. At least people knew HOW to speed and tailgate correctly.

[Gas Man]

It's like that here too...

Really the only drivers I have found that share a michigan mindset towards agresive driving... is New Yorks. Tommy rolls just like I do. Don't take shit, and I'll F'in hit you to prove my point.

I think it's like that everywhere. Can't stand tailgaters though.

It's illegal to text but you can still use your phone?

Here it's illegal to use handheld devices (no matter what you're doing).

It's ok to talk on the phone, and dial, but as of July 1st, illegal to text and drive. It's stupid. Even cops say, it will be hard to prove on the side of the road that the driver was texting and not just dialing.

Atlanta is worse. Far worse.

Scarily so.

Eff Atlanta traffic.

Really? I have been thru atlanta a half a dozen times.. I don't think anywhere south of the mason dixon is bad.

Understand this is 7am light traffic. I don't get back traffic in my area. Now when I lived in the northern suburbs of Detroit (Royal Oak/Troy by I-696). It was freakin insane! Or in Novi area where I-275/I-96/I-696/M5/M14 all come together... we call it the mixing bowl. F that place from about 2pm - 7pm

Aren't you in the right lane?

Mirror!!! Just like no the drivers seat isn't on the passenger side.

I liked it when I lived there. At least people knew HOW to speed and tailgate correctly.

That's the way it is here. Remarkably it works fine. Very few accidents really. But when it gets dense you have to stay on your toes.

[Homeslice]

How about moving over then? redflip

[Gas Man]

How about moving over then? redflip
F that!!

They can't go any faster than I can... hence the same amount of traffic ahead of me. Not pictured of coarse.

That's one thing I dont get when riding with out of towners... If I'm in the left lane and doing 85. I'm passing everybody. Guys from other states move over to the center lane, just to move back to the left to pass the next guy a 1/2-1 mile later, when nobody is behind you trying to pass you. WHY?

F that... when I'm traveling on my bike I rarely come out of the left lane... nobody usually is rollin faster than me so why should I if I know I'll be back there to pass again very soon.

[Homeslice]

From your mirror, it's obvious the right lane is totally clear........So why are you still in the left lane if you're not passing someone?

And how do YOU know nobody wants to go faster than you? Can you read their minds?

[dubbs]

From your mirror, it's obvious the right lane is totally clear........So why are you still in the left lane if you're not passing someone?

And how do YOU know nobody wants to go faster than you? Can you read their minds?

True that, move the fuck over.. Ever heard the saying "DRIVE RIGHT" ?

[JoJoYZF]

F that!!

They can't go any faster than I can... hence the same amount of traffic ahead of me. Not pictured of coarse.

That's one thing I dont get when riding with out of towners... If I'm in the left lane and doing 85. I'm passing everybody. Guys from other states move over to the center lane, just to move back to the left to pass the next guy a 1/2-1 mile later, when nobody is behind you trying to pass you. WHY?

F that... when I'm traveling on my bike I rarely come out of the left lane... nobody usually is rollin faster than me so why should I if I know I'll be back there to pass again very soon.


Ive been driving the same way since I got comfortable behind the wheel, so a few months after I turned 16 lol. I think thats why people look at me like Im a lunatic around here but when I lived in MI for a year I fit right in. I used to do 100 everyday going to work on a stretch of 14 I think it was and would have people right there with me the whole way.
Ive been driving the same way since I got comfortable behind the wheel, so a few months after I turned 16 lol. I think thats why people look at me like Im a lunatic around here but when I lived in MI for a year I fit right in. I used to do 100 everyday going to work on a stretch of 14 I think it was and would have people right there with me the whole way.

From your mirror, it's obvious the right lane is totally clear........So why are you still in the left lane if you're not passing someone?

And how do YOU know nobody wants to go faster than you? Can you read their minds?

He clearly said there were just as many people right in front of him. So if he moves they can do what, move up 6 feet?

[JoJoYZF]

True that, move the fuck over.. Ever heard the saying "DRIVE RIGHT" ?

There were people in front too, he wasnt holding anyone up

[Gas Man]

From your mirror, it's obvious the right lane is totally clear........So why are you still in the left lane if you're not passing someone?

And how do YOU know nobody wants to go faster than you? Can you read their minds?

There is a big truck in the center lane and right lane. You can barely see the tires below my rear view of the center lane truck... there was no where to go... stuck.

Plus I was getting off a left lane exit about a 1/2 mile from when this pic was taken. Otherwise I would have tried to set up a better angle thru the mirror.

True that, move the fuck over.. Ever heard the saying "DRIVE RIGHT" ?

F that. That's what I'm saying... I'll roll faster than any of these fucks. But there's no where to go.

That DRIVE RIGHT shit is the BS I was just talking about.

[dubbs]

F that. That's what I'm saying... I'll roll faster than any of these fucks. But there's no where to go.

That DRIVE RIGHT shit is the BS I was just talking about.

If everyone followed the same rule there wouldn't of been any traffic in front of you. But because everyone thinks they'll go faster than everyone else or they just don't understand the rule of the road, you end up with a stack of cars.. So F that!

[Gas Man]

Ive been driving the same way since I got comfortable behind the wheel, so a few months after I turned 16 lol. I think thats why people look at me like Im a lunatic around here but when I lived in MI for a year I fit right in. I used to do 100 everyday going to work on a stretch of 14 I think it was and would have people right there with me the whole way.

He clearly said there were just as many people right in front of him. So if he moves they can do what, move up 6 feet?

Thank you... finally somebody that understands. I know why. Cause you drove in Michigan for some amount of time.

I didn't make this shit up. I know plenty of people that have moved here from all over... florida, GA, tenn, Cali. It was my buddy from Cali that said... drivers in michigan are F'in crazy.

On 696... left lane. Mofo's are doing 90+. REAL TALK. When I had a 4x4 ranger I would ride on the speed limiter at 94mph... use to piss me off like no other!! Or I'd go to pass some fuck doing 82 in the left... BAM hit taht 94 speed limiter. For those that don't know... I-696 is 40' below ground... it's Michigan's auto bon. Use to regularly do 160mph+++ on the rockets thru there... YES IN TRAFFIC!!! F'in INSANE even for michigan.

There were people in front too, he wasnt holding anyone up

EXACTLY!!!!

[Homeslice]

F that. That's what I'm saying... I'll roll faster than any of these fucks. But there's no where to go.

That DRIVE RIGHT shit is the BS I was just talking about.

OK, so how about when traffic opens up, and there's nobody blocking you AND nobody you need to pass........You'd move over then, right?

[Smittie61984]

I liked it when I lived there. At least people knew HOW to speed and tailgate correctly.

That's until the Florida drivers invade. I left July 5th from Atlanta to Savannah and was surrounded by Florida drivers. If there was a slight hill and turn a mile ahead, then it was time to slow down. I was happy to get past Macon onto I-16 (FL people usually stay I-75) which is the Georgia Autobahn. Set your cruise around 90-100mph and chill.

But in Atlanta, we got mad tailgatin skillz.

The nicest drivers are NC drivers. I've never seen people go so far out of their way to stay out of the faster lane.

[Gas Man]

OK, so how about when traffic opens up, and there's nobody blocking you AND nobody you need to pass........You'd move over then, right?
Yes...

pet peeve

when mofos get on the highway into the right lane and go straight to the left when there is NOBODY in any lane in front of them. That shit is STUPID ANNOYING!

[JoJoYZF]

Thank you... finally somebody that understands. I know why. Cause you drove in Michigan for some amount of time.

I didn't make this shit up. I know plenty of people that have moved here from all over... florida, GA, tenn, Cali. It was my buddy from Cali that said... drivers in michigan are F'in crazy.

On 696... left lane. Mofo's are doing 90+. REAL TALK. When I had a 4x4 ranger I would ride on the speed limiter at 94mph... use to piss me off like no other!! Or I'd go to pass some fuck doing 82 in the left... BAM hit taht 94 speed limiter. For those that don't know... I-696 is 40' below ground... it's Michigan's auto bon. Use to regularly do 160mph+++ on the rockets thru there... YES IN TRAFFIC!!! F'in INSANE even for michigan.



EXACTLY!!!!

Yea it was like an all out race half the time, youll basically get run over if youre ever doing less than 80 on any highway. I loved it most of the time cause thats how Im most comfortable driving.

OK, so how about when traffic opens up, and there's nobody blocking you AND nobody you need to pass........You'd move over then, right?

Why bother at that point? If Im doing 85 in a 65 or something and someone flies up on me, theyre the type of person that will go to the right to pass me before I even bother. Trust me I do it to people all the time.

[Homeslice]

Why bother at that point? If Im doing 85 in a 65 or something and someone flies up on me, theyre the type of person that will go to the right to pass me before I even bother. Trust me I do it to people all the time.
So why not stay right, so that they don't have to do that? It's just common courtesy. Plus it's safer when people pass on the left, not the right.

[Homeslice]

Yes...

pet peeve

when mofos get on the highway into the right lane and go straight to the left when there is NOBODY in any lane in front of them. That shit is STUPID ANNOYING!

I agree.........I can't stand left-lane squatters (hint: JoJoYZF). Quit trying to act like nobody could possibly want to go faster than you.

[snobuny]

I'm going to Michigan next week!

Where are you going and when will you be here? Bringing the bike? Let us know maybe we can hook up!

[Sean]

From your mirror, it's obvious the right lane is totally clear........So why are you still in the left lane if you're not passing someone?

And how do YOU know nobody wants to go faster than you? Can you read their minds?

Seriously, it's one of the most selfish asshole moves a driver can make.

[fasternyou929]

Why bother at that point? If Im doing 85 in a 65 or something and someone flies up on me, theyre the type of person that will go to the right to pass me before I even bother. Trust me I do it to people all the time.

And I bet you completely lose your cool when some dipshit won't get out of YOUR way. Especially when moving to the right would immediately jam you into slower moving traffic. If only I had a dollar for every dipshit with that ignorant mindset on my drive to Florida and back last week...

[LeeNetworX]

Atlanta is worse. Far worse.

Scarily so.

Eff Atlanta traffic.

Then get the fuck out of my way!!!!

[101lifts2]

I kinda agree with GasMan....lived in IL, TN, MI for 7 years and now CA. MI drivers will tend to drive 80-85 in large packs and all lanes seem to do this. BUT...they do not drive as close as they do in CA nor do we in CA slow down for curves. There is this stretch on I-75 around Rochester Road when I was there last week in MI where I will do 90mph and the flow would slow down to 70. They do seem to leave larger gaps between cars vs. CA. I always snuck in between cars because in LA we know how to roll like that. Start turning when the car next to you is half way passed and you'll get in front. I know this pissed a bunch of people off too....sportin with the CA plates.

I also noticed that people don't back down in MI on the freeways as much as they do in CA. CA drivers are alot more laid back (and alot more illegal).

[101lifts2]

Seriously, it's one of the most selfish asshole moves a driver can make.

I don't see any issue driving in the left lane if nobody is behind you...unless it's a "Left Lane only to Pass" state.

[Riceaholic]

Then get the fuck out of my way!!!!

I'm with you dude. I was never happier than the left lane being 90+...

[Gas Man]

101...it's easier to roll tighter when you aren't going over 45mph... :lol:

[racedoll]

I like driving in MI because people actually go. They don't screw around and we get places. Erik has a fit when I drive anywhere because I will go with the flow of traffic even if it means balls out.

Yes...

pet peeve

when mofos get on the highway into the right lane and go straight to the left when there is NOBODY in any lane in front of them. That shit is STUPID ANNOYING!

No kidding. Ohio is terrible for drivers like this. I'll pass on the right all the while blowing my horn at them to GTF over!!

So why not stay right, so that they don't have to do that? It's just common courtesy. Plus it's safer when people pass on the left, not the right.

I think a lot of people think they are the only ones on the road so they can drive where ever they please, having no regard for anyone around them. I HATE passing on the right but do it if I need to.

[CrazyKell]

Where are you going and when will you be here? Bringing the bike? Let us know maybe we can hook up!

Just coming over in the car to hit up Sportbike Trackgear, Target, and Ruby Tuesday. :lmao:

Still trying to work that Grattan weekend so I'll let you know.

[snobuny]

Just coming over in the car to hit up Sportbike Trackgear, Target, and Ruby Tuesday. :lmao:

Still trying to work that Grattan weekend so I'll let you know.

I work 10 minutes from sportbiketrackgear.......Let me know when you will be over and if I am not too busy maybe we can do lunch/dinner. I work tues/thurs and friday this week.

[Homeslice]

101...it's easier to roll tighter when you aren't going over 45mph... :lol:

:bs: That is only rush hour in the city. In the suburbs and desert areas, it's wide open, 5 lanes each direction, average speeds 85 or so.

[njchopper87]

SC driving sucks.. it seems the norm to travel the EXACT limit on highways. I have to pass people when I'm only going 5 over. There are some stubborn people that stay in the left, but most stay right. There are tight groups of people that go 85+, but I see too many cops to risk that.

NJ driving was nice. It was the norm to go 5 over, and most stay right for the daredevils that aren't scared of tickets.

MI driving.. I don't want to drive there if it's normal for people to tailgate like that. I'd just slow down to piss people off till they pass. I don't trust anyone enough to tailgate going 85 mph.. city traffic sure w/e, but highway speeds nuh uh.

[Homeslice]

SC driving sucks.. it seems the norm to travel the EXACT limit on highways.

I experienced the same thing living in NC, whenever I'd go between Greensboro and Charlotte. I don't know whether it's because they're afraid of cops, or they're not car enthusiasts, or because the limited number of lanes in each direction makes them feel nervous. You go down to Atlanta and people drive way faster. Which is either because the highways are wider there, or because most of them are ex-Northerners, lol.

[caveman]

Well, I drove for three years in Germany where the REAL TALK Autobahn is, and let me tell ya, you don't roll in the left lane unless you are passing ONLY. If you were to get and I mean be the one that is rear-ended on the Autobahn in the left lane then it is your fault and you are cited.

My favorite story of my driving the A-bahn over there- I rolling along hitting th limiter on my 96 Dodge Neon at 118 mph and passing some one doing about 80 when I see a vehicle must have been at least 1/4 mile back in my rear view. Looked to the sideview to make sure I could move back out of the left lane and by the time I was checking the rearview again on my lane change the car was now about 100 yards behind me. This all happened in about, 5-15 seconds. Right after I clear the lane a red blur passes me like I was standing still and again I was goin around 118, every now and then the limiter would slow me down.

So after driving there and driving here I do get a little crazed when some tool is just sunday drivin in the left. that is the go fast lane if you aren't screamin, then move the F over.

[dubbs]

Well, I drove for three years in Germany where the REAL TALK Autobahn is, and let me tell ya, you don't roll in the left lane unless you are passing ONLY. If you were to get and I mean be the one that is rear-ended on the Autobahn in the left lane then it is your fault and you are cited.

My favorite story of my driving the A-bahn over there- I rolling along hitting th limiter on my 96 Dodge Neon at 118 mph and passing some one doing about 80 when I see a vehicle must have been at least 1/4 mile back in my rear view. Looked to the sideview to make sure I could move back out of the left lane and by the time I was checking the rearview again on my lane change the car was now about 100 yards behind me. This all happened in about, 5-15 seconds. Right after I clear the lane a red blur passes me like I was standing still and again I was goin around 118, every now and then the limiter would slow me down.

So after driving there and driving here I do get a little crazed when some tool is just sunday drivin in the left. that is the go fast lane if you aren't screamin, then move the F over.

yup i had the same thing happen to me while driving on the actual autobahn.. I think it was a porsche that flew by.. not really sure.. We were doing about 125mph in an OPEL Vectra.. Damn 4 cyls..

[Homeslice]

That is why German cars' suspension systems are wired so tight.......The cars need body control at high speeds. Germans might not be the most expressive or romantic people, but they don't fuck around when they build shit.

Most American and Japanese cars float all over the place, and their steering is too quick and artificial.

[JoJoYZF]

I agree.........I can't stand left-lane squatters (hint: JoJoYZF). Quit trying to act like nobody could possibly want to go faster than you.

If I see people are coming from behind and there is traffic coming up in the right lane where they wont be able to pass but if there isnt then it really makes no difference what lane you pass someone in. And how about instead of worrying about me you worry about yourself? Have I ever caused an accident? No. Do I hold up lines of traffic behind me? No. Until you see me drive, dont worry about me.

And I bet you completely lose your cool when some dipshit won't get out of YOUR way. Especially when moving to the right would immediately jam you into slower moving traffic. If only I had a dollar for every dipshit with that ignorant mindset on my drive to Florida and back last week...

Not unless I have no way to pass them. If theres people doing the exact speed limit in the fast lane and the people in "slower" lanes ie the center, right, etc are passing us then I get irritated. I see no problem to still be in the left lane if Im still passing people in the other lanes. If theres no traffic and Im still doing 80 or more in a 65 for example, theres no reason they cant move over but read above for other example.

Thank you everyone for caring so much about which lane I drive in. I feel touched that youre all so concerned...

[101lifts2]

101...it's easier to roll tighter when you aren't going over 45mph... :lol:


hahaha...yeah traffic...I blame it on the Mexicans. :lol

[101lifts2]

:bs: That is only rush hour in the city. In the suburbs and desert areas, it's wide open, 5 lanes each direction, average speeds 85 or so.

Maybe in SD...the 91 Freeway is blocked from 3pm to 9pm every weekday.

I don't even wanna take about the 5, 105, 605, 405, 110 etc. etc.

[101lifts2]

If I see people are coming from behind and there is traffic coming up in the right lane where they wont be able to pass but if there isnt then it really makes no difference what lane you pass someone in. And how about instead of worrying about me you worry about yourself? Have I ever caused an accident? No. Do I hold up lines of traffic behind me? No. Until you see me drive, dont worry about me.



Not unless I have no way to pass them. If theres people doing the exact speed limit in the fast lane and the people in "slower" lanes ie the center, right, etc are passing us then I get irritated. I see no problem to still be in the left lane if Im still passing people in the other lanes. If theres no traffic and Im still doing 80 or more in a 65 for example, theres no reason they cant move over but read above for other example.

Thank you everyone for caring so much about which lane I drive in. I feel touched that youre all so concerned...


Dude ur being punked in this thread. By Homeslice!!!:lol

[JoJoYZF]

Dude ur being punked in this thread. By Homeslice!!!:lol

Eh it happens. He reads the couple of sentences I posted and suddenly hes an expert on my driving and thinks any of the opinions he have on it are worth anything to me lol.

[Homeslice]

If I see people are coming from behind and there is traffic coming up in the right lane where they wont be able to pass but if there isnt then it really makes no difference what lane you pass someone in. .

Sure it does. What if you tried to pass someone on the right, but then he finally decides to move over at the same time? BOOM. Happens all the time, why? Because people know they should move to the right, and when they finally get around to doing it, they might do it without signaling.

[Homeslice]

I see no problem to still be in the left lane if Im still passing people in the other lanes. .

I agree.........to a point.

If you're already going 85 or something, and there's only one guy behind you, then that's not as bad as doing only 70 and holding up 10 people behind you.

But still, I don't care how packed the right lane is, there is always a hole you could cut into if you wanted, so that you could let someone pass. If he wants to go 120, let him.

[fasternyou929]

Why bother at that point? If Im doing 85 in a 65 or something and someone flies up on me, theyre the type of person that will go to the right to pass me before I even bother. Trust me I do it to people all the time.

I see no problem to still be in the left lane if Im still passing people in the other lanes. If theres no traffic and Im still doing 80 or more in a 65 for example, theres no reason they cant move over but read above for other example.

Thank you everyone for caring so much about which lane I drive in. I feel touched that youre all so concerned...

You're not being consistent in this thread at all. Are you staying in the left lane and making people pass you on the right while you're passing people? Do you speed up and close the gap on them once they're in the right lane trying to get by too? :lol:

I don't care how fast I'm driving, if I'm not passing someone in the next 30 seconds, I'm moving over a lane. It's just basic courtesy, which is obviously lost on many anymore.

[101lifts2]

You're not being consistent in this thread at all. Are you staying in the left lane and making people pass you on the right while you're passing people? Do you speed up and close the gap on them once they're in the right lane trying to get by too? :lol:

I don't care how fast I'm driving, if I'm not passing someone in the next 30 seconds, I'm moving over a lane. It's just basic courtesy, which is obviously lost on many anymore.

Maybe in your little world it is courtesy, but the reality of it is if there is no one in the left lane behind you it doesn't matter. It is like putting your turn signal on at 2am with not a car in sight. I guess if it makes you sleep better at night, then so be it.

I think many states have left only to pass rules so cops and emergency vehicles have an easier time getting by traffic. I cannot think of any other reason for it.

And the reason JoJoYZF doing 85 getting passed in the right lane is simply because he is not checking mirrors often enough. But I'm suspecting the dude is in his 20s....big ego trip at that age. hahaha

[fasternyou929]

Maybe in your little world you're the only one on the road, but very rarely do I check my mirror and see nobody back there. I hate left lane campers so why woud I do it to anybody else? I bet every lane clogger out there thinks they're driving "fast enough". If the road is wide open I see your point, bit then I'm probably not passing anyone either. :lol:

Agree on JoJo's age and ego playing into his poor driving skills. :-)

[Smittie61984]

People, we ride motrocycles. No need to worry about people sitting in the left lane when all we need to do is this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShacMAn_HK8

[Gas Man]

For those that don't know what 696 looks like in Michigan. I refered to how it's below ground level. Here's what I mean... I was there Thursday...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Misc/SU1HMDAxMTQuanBn.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Misc/SU1HMDAxMTMuanBn.jpg

On my way to Troy to pickup some used tires for my lease turn in... then to the hood for mounting...

What up Mound & Nevada which is just north of davidson... yeah it was um....

[Smittie61984]

I thought about this thread today. I was headed down I-16 between Macon and Savannah in Georgia. I was rolling 95-100mph being followed probably no longer than 1.5 car lengths and we rolled like that for about 20-30 miles AND passing cops. Of course below Atlanta I sat in 15 miles of bumper to bumper traffic (on a Sunday afternoon) because some dumbass decided to cause a big fucking wreck and oh yeah had a Michigan tag on what was once a large SUV that is now legally allowed to park in "Compact Car Parking". Fucking amateurs.

But rolling 95-100mph for 20miles and passing GSP doing radar is nothing but win!!!

[z06boy]

http://image.internetautoguide.com/f/auto-news/slower-traffic-keep-right-some-states-finally-cracking-down-on-lane-hoggers/27211050/left-lane-driver.jpg

[Mudpuppy]

i hate mfrs that creep in the left lane.. they put up signs FINALLY in michigan: THE LEFT LANE IS FOR PASSING, STAY RIGHT UNLESS YOU ARE PASSING. I have seen those signs in the South for years.. and people seem to follow it a little better outside of Michigan..